GT5 Prologue not true 1080p - upscaled

GT5 Prologue works in 1280x1080 and uses PS3 upscaling trick - by repeating some pixels in anamorphic picture to 1920x1080. So 50% upscale.(It's actually less than GT HD's 1440x1080)

1280x1080 and 2xAA
1280x720 and 4xAA
Confirmed by the same guy from Halo 3 resolution discovery (Quaz51).
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...=43330&page=24

"GT5 prologue demo is 1280x1080p (yamauchi know than in car game the vertical resolution is the most important for the visibility) but with MSAA 2x now ! it's a very good Compromise
they also very improved the display of grills and electric wires and aliasing problems (compare electric wires in GT-HD and in this demo, it's big big gap), the texture filtering is very clean and the HDR ligthing is awesome! All this in 60fps with 16 photorealistics cars, it's impressive the show room and the pit/garage is full 1920x1080 no AA"

[Meus Renaissance]

The demo was also full of jaggies and it just seemed incomplete in some areas. I do expect it to be full 1080p in the retail version with 60fps as the developers constantly made a big deal out of that.

[Evil0Angel]

i downloaded the demo from the japan PSN, and i tell you : the cars look uber ultra relastic.the tracksv need some work .(I HAVE NOT NOTICED ANY JUGGING )

GAMEPLAY: i will pick FORZA 2 any day any time over GT5P

so far i believe GT5 is not reason to buy PS3,however if you already have PS3 it is must buy.

@NASIM: i have PS3/WII/(2*360+HD-DVD) and decent laptop to play RTS.
ignored by 174 nuff said
nasim if you have PS3 what is your PSN ID ???

[sonarus]

explain to me why forza has better gameplay and please dnt say car damage cus am tired of hearing that. Does forza feel more realistic or do the cars turn better blah blah. Also i only noticed jaggies in the shadows which will be fixed before release i doubt the full game will be full native 1080p though it will probably remain the same as it is now. The game looks great better than anything I have ever seen.

lol random disagreers again. What did i say wrong is it not better than anythin i have ever seen tell me sumthin that looks better or did i not notice enough jaggies? tell me where they are so i can notice them.

[jiggyjay]

"so far i believe GT5 is not reason to buy PS3,however if you already have PS3 it is must buy."

Well of course it is! In fact any game is a must buy for the PS3 since it needs games!

[Mu5afir]

I suggest you all pick up a copy of GT and actually play it before commenting. GT is the pioneer of great driving games for consoles. Quit the idiotic bashing, it makes you all look desperate.

[sagapo]

well, i've played both and, GT5 looks truly amazing, better then Forza, no need to bs over that. But i think Forza has the more realistic gameplay, and i'm not talking cardamage!! Im not saying GT playes like a arcade racer, surly not, Forza just got the simulating better nailed.
Lets wait and see what GT5 brings ( and not the demo's, prologues,...)

[Mu5afir]

Did you just say, GT plays like an "arcade" game? Surly you didn't just say that. GT is THE CAR SIMULATOR, there is no if and or buts about it. I am sure you might had some memory relapse or mixed up your thoughts, because I am sure GT is anything but an arcade game.

This is exactly why I am telling people to actually play a GT game before commenting. Comments like "GT is an Arcade" game etc.. makes me wonder if you you all ever even tried the game out.

[The Snake]

"explain to me why forza has better gameplay and please dnt say car damage cus am tired of hearing that."

Just because you're tired of hearing that doesn't somehow make it less relevant. Using that logic, any 360 fanboy could say "What makes the PS3 better and don't say Cell because I'm tired of hearing that" or "What makes PSN better and don't say it's free because I'm tired of hearing that."

[gaffyh]

Could everyone get their heads out of their asses and realise that this is a demo? and only one stage of the GT5 Prologue. Plus who the hell puts up a forum post and calls it news???

[Ignorant Fanboy]

He only has one bubble, so instead of creating a new account like every other fanboy, he edits his posts instead of replies.

He made like 10 bubbles worth of replies on one post, Imagine what this kid would be like if he were given 5 bubbles!

[sagapo]

Where in hell are you getting that i would call GT an arcade racer???
I just said the opposite dumbass. Only Forza got it better.
Now read this and my other comment over and over, very slowly.
You get it now? good!

[Gondee]

im not bashing anything, but since the cars take 6 months to make each, i dought ull see them go back and re model them to make them look better.

why did that guy post a 4 page long comment. No ones gona read it.

God forbid, he only posts it on every thread

[ATLRoAcH]

Its a Demo.

[aliveinboston]

GT5 Prologue demo vs competing software:

vs Forza2, GT5 Prologue demo has
-Twice as many cars
-50% higher resolution
-Far better lighting/shading
-Environments about equal, with more complex distant geometry but less complex foliage
-Far better car geometry
-Interior view (processor intensive)

vs PGR4, GT5 Prologue demo has
-Twice as many cars
-50% higher resolution
-Environments aren't quite as good (ugly as PGR4's foliage is, GT5Pdemo is worse in this regard)
-Far better car geometry
-Double the frame-rate(!)
-Much better lighting/shading
-Superior interior view

Overall, its easily the most technically advanced game/demo available for consoles.

What's funny is MSFanboys accusing sony of "lying" when Microsoft said all XBox360 games would be minimum 720P and 4xAA.

Which of Xbox360's big selling games match Microsoft's hype?

Halo3-Fail
Perfect Dark Zero-Fail
Call of Duty3-Fail
PGR3-Fail
Forza2-Fail
PGR4-Fail
Gears of War-Fail
Bioshock-Fail

In fact, dozens of Xbox360 games even advertise 1080P

How many are actually 1080P native (not upscaled)?

Answer: 2

Let's keep things in perspective before we go out trying to bash software for platforms we do not own.

[nevelo07]

just like almost every xbox360 is really upscaled and not really native hd because of the built in upscaler inside the gpu of the 360, get outta here with this crap.

[cloud360]

Well if GT5 proluge isnt true 1080p

Then the real GT5 will be

[DrPirate]

Why do people keep saying they have jaggies?

I've seriously gone 2 inches away from my screen looking for them, and the only jaggies I've found are on the hood of the cars, and on some of the geometry in the backgrounds...

Mine looks pristine, I really can't complain about the graphics.

On the note of the news: I don't quite understand...It runs in 1080p, but has less anti-aliasing? It also run in 720p with more anti-aliasing? Doesn't it mean it can do both natively? Am I misunderstanding something?

[Snukadaman]

"i've seriously gone 2 inches away from my screen looking for them, and the only jaggies I've found are on the hood of the cars, and on some of the geometry in the backgrounds"

well doesnt that mean theres jaggies then...??

[FirstknighT]

What jaggies are they talking about???? I mean when I seriously stare at the screen, their are jaggies on the hood of the car, the back of the car, the tires, the car door, the mountains, the people watching the races, and the other cars....but other than that....THERE ARE ZERO JAGGIES! :)

[Jandre02]

It is only a demo though. Excuse me, a demo of a demo. But still NOOOOOOOO! Damn you GT5Prologue!

[jack who]

bu bu bu but halo 3 was 620P

/sacuims

[PimpHandHappy]

i dont see it. I played the demo just a hour ago and i think it looks dam good for a demo. Its still what 8 weeks away till the finished game!

cant wait to race online with The Real Driving Simlulator!

[Snukadaman]

like that halo problem couldnt be defended...this cant either...just enjoy your game and stop trying too throw in RROD and this stupid 640p with halo 3 problem kids..because both companys lie....enjoy.

[Mu5afir]

TADA, end of discussion. And this isn't confirmed, I will be doing my own test very soon.

[jack who]

halo 3 was 620p...cuzz of the sexy hd HDR ligthin(which is very sexy on 1080P 47" HD TV)

[aiphanes]

The same can not be said for Xbox 360 games. If the Xbox 360 GPU was so much more powerfull than the RSX GPU...then all the xbox 360 games would be in 1080p native or at least 720p native at 60 fps....

This is not the case...

[Snukadaman]

its suppose too be a taste of whats too come....so are you telling me DP are that lazy too throw some crappy demo out there too immpress people too buy it..? because thats what it sounds like some of the excuses some of you people are saying....this was one of those games that was suppose too sell systems...and consumers are suppose too be happy that they cant get a demo right...indeed. it doesnt bode well for the final product.

you idiot...have you ever went on the halo 3 storys and throw in that 640P problem....yes..because you know why..your some little kid who gives a half a fack about the ps3 dying...why dont you take your own advice if you dont own a xbox then dont go comment on those storys..if not stfuajpyg.

[wil4hire]

@Snukadaman

The demo is a taste of things to come. HD games. Which the 360 lacks. Last time I checked 720p is HD.

Xbots try so hard.

Bungie SAID HALO3 Was going to be HD
Microsoft SAID HALO3 Was going to be HD.

IT WASN'T At ALL. They LIED and shipped it out anyway knowing none of you can afford HD-TV's anyway. Nor would care..

Polyphony D & Sony Said NOTHING about the Prologue DEMO of a DEMO being 1080p @ 60fps. Only DIE HARD GT5 fans can download the demo. it isn't released to the masses outside of JAPAN. A demo of a DEMO has a higher resolution than any AAA-AA game on the 360, thats sad. And it's getting compared to the 360's "BEST" Racing offerings, the fact that there is even a comparison is more of a testament to how amazing GT5 is. Even a demo has people worried & making up stories about "jaggies" and how 720p is a bad thing.

Stick to facts about this topic, or you will just continue to embarrass yourself.

edit: @ scottie2521 -

You are a complete troglodyte. 640 P isn't HD. It is taking a step backwards. You think you just owned someone, You didn't. Bungie blatantly lied to all of the HALO3 owners, said it was HD. Then said "Oh wait, its not. Oh well." I do Agree with your point, if the game looks good it looks good. GT5 Looks good at 720p, and its going to look better on my 1080p Projector.

You have no idea how technology works. Play a ps3 on a analog tv, there you have it.. Great looking games at NTSC. Give up on life now.

[MikeGdaGod]

i think the problem with Halo running at 640p was it is 360's BIG game. the most important game on the system is suppose to showcase what the console can do. Halo showed the 360 can run a game in 640p and make it look decent.

when ANY ps3 game comes out running at 640p, then talk your sh!t

[Snukadaman]

you folks can spin it all you want.....most of you say this is a system seller...dont you think that moreso for a demo it would be the most greatest experience you have ever played....from what everyone has been saying its mostly mediocre at best. no enjoy your game and keep on making excuses like its only a demo...when the full game comes out and it the same then ill just chalk it up as another excuse not too buy a ps3 and move on...ohh by the way...you people saying if i dont own a system why comment on the games...its the internet...welcome too it and peoples critiques morons.

"POLYPHONY NEVER SAID THE DEMO OF GT PROLOGUE WOULD BE 1080p @ 60fps."

as a ps3 owner dont you expect the best out of every game..im sure you hoped it would be 1080P...cmon...dont kid yourself....you expect every game from the ps3 too be better..hell I have since the ps3's launch..but reality is its not, and until you come too grips with the ps3 not showing its full potential, you will always be the blind fanboy you portray yourself as kid...

[wil4hire]

How is "720p"---"Not Getting it Right." Xbots are trying so hard to tarnish every PS3 title its pathetic. POLYPHONY NEVER SAID THE DEMO OF GT PROLOGUE WOULD BE 1080p @ 60fps. The PS3 has the MAJORITY of the 1080p titles running. Thats the "chance for the final product." Polyphony is a very proven Developer.

The game isn't due until some time in 2008. The HD demo is out now, and its insane amazing. Seeing as how the GT5 demo is only released in Japan, its not really something even offered to consumers, nor are most even aware. A small group of people are playing it right now, outside of japan.

[Bolts]

720p= High def
640p= Not high def

Got that? If Halo 3 was 720p upscaled to 1080p then it would've been a brilliant design decision not a limitation.

[eXplotion]

A demo of a demo that has jaggies!!! DOOOOMED!

[Mu5afir]

The PS3 doesn't have a magical chip inside it's system that upscales the resolution. It's either 1080p or it isn't, there is no if and or "buts" about it. More likely then not, this was a bad capture "evident" by the fact that some of the forum posts are contradicting the resolution stats.

Let's just wait and see, before jumping the gun.

[popup]

It seems a discussion to me too. I agree with the game looking clean statements though.

You have to laugh at the zoomed in shots of the pixel structure of someones tv with the game running to try to prove it when capture cards and TV's can interpret the image in different ways. Its a shame none of them speak Japanese as they could ask the man himself because his facts and 'the guys on a forum's' version seem to differ.

[jack who]

oh yea? wat bout those pics your sony farmboyz been postin everywhere with on jaggies wat so ever? where u got those from....or omg they were fakes :O

[BulletToothtony]

because the ps3 doesn't upscale ps3 games to 1080p so i don't know if this is completely truth??

but oh well, all i know is that it looks AMAZING on my 42" plasma.. best graphics i've ever seen.. well gt5, along with KZ2 and MGS4 are really enough proof that i'm gonna be looking at some great games for the next 6 to 10 years..

[remix]

if people really wanna get technical, then the 360 can never run true 1080p games since the dvd9disk isnt HIGH DEF. blu ray is a high def disk on the other hand. how about that one

[jack who]

wtf does disk space have to do with wat resolution you can run a game?

[Evil0Angel]

how??!!!???
oh you do not need BR for 1080p

[Ignorant Fanboy]

Or you are just plain stupid, it doesnt matter what media format the content is on, it just matters what the content is.

I could burn a game trailer in HD onto a CDR, a simple 1990's CDR, stick it in my PC and watch it in HD on my flatscreen.

Did that just blow your mind?

[wil4hire]

Why do the 360 fans think that this is a bad thing? It runs at a higher res than any of the "AAA" "AA" Games on the box. And its just a friggen demo lol.

The demo is beautiful, the cars are breathtaking. The tracks are beautifully rendered.

I heard all this nonsense about sprites used for the crowd? Thats total bs, they are low polygon characters, and there are thousands of them in the stands.. They all have different animations. SOme stand up, others sit down, some just wave their hands, others dont.. I was able to observe that after I misjudged a turn in the GTR :\.

Gran Turismo is amazing, ill take 720p+ On a DEMO at a stable framerate with no "JAGGIES" over SD-NTSC full game any day. This game should never be compared to Forza or PGR. THose developers haven't nearly spent the time making sure each vehicle was perfect. The interiors and shadows are amazing as well. The Shadow Passes could use some work for the interior, which I am sure they are aware of. This game is beautiful.

The point of the game is to simulate real driving on a track. The point isn't to ram into people and show off how bad you can make damage, for that.. there are the rest of the immature titles out there to do so. I'll pop in burnout or dirt if I want to see damage. Which doesn't usually happen because I am mostly pretty good.

This demo is showing how hard they are working to please the fans of the GT franchise. Did you guys notice how much better the AI is? They cut you off, don't allow you to pass etc as you get closer to the leader.

bubbles appreciated.

[jcgamer]

I agree with you...wow, I can't believe it...lol...but seriously...this is one series that has always been and will always be...DROP DEAD GORGEOUS ...and GT5 will be the most beautiful racing game ever created...Polyphony are the best at what they do and are unmatched...so bubbles up...man, am I in a good mood...somebody else, say something good, quick...lol...

[Ri0tSquad]

there are some jaggies tho but i thought the ps3 couldn't upscale or some crap like that? Oh well still looks good.

[Avto]

ehh anyway better than 640p in Halo 3 and gameplay wise GT has always been better than any other racing game, some of you might say Forza 2 this, Forza 2 that, but you know what MS can take and stick Forza up their *** I don't care and so do millions of others even BMW and VW. Gran Turismo forever!!!

[demolitionX]

people are talking BS, as if they work in GT5 development and they know every detail? comeone guys!!!

[synce]

This will definitely decide whether or not the game is good and it deserves my money! I WILL NOT PAY FOR ANY LESS THAN 2,100,000 TRUE PIXELS ON MY HDTV, DAMMIT.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

HALO3 640P G.O.W 640P(NOT EVEN 720P) BIOSHOCK IS NOT 1080P (720P)........................ .SONY NBAO8 1080P MLB07 1080P AND COMING SOON GTA5 AND MANY MORE.VIVA LA SONY 2008 AND B3YOND....PLAYB3YOND AND JUMP OUT OF THE RROD

[CPTN MITCHELL]

HALO3 640P G.O.W 640P(NOT EVEN 720P) BIOSHOCK IS NOT 1080P (720P)........................ .SONY NBAO8 1080P MLB07 1080P AND COMING SOON GTA5 AND MANY MORE.VIVA LA SONY 2008 AND B3YOND....PLAYB3YOND AND JUMP OUT OF THE RROD

[Snukadaman]

jeez dude you make another account so you can post this bull....you really need a new hobby man...i suggest you get laid.

and with the idiot that agreed with you or is that you agreeing with yourself.....man you kids are something else.

[sagapo]

what good will 1080p do when the games itself suck??

[scrillakiller]

um ps3 doesnt upscale ps3 games.its either native rez or not.u peple are sickening.please.

[rbanke]

same responce as i gave to the halo resolution posts. WGAS, the game looks awesome, from a graphic standpoint i dont care if its 18341234x1932413294 or 13x34 resolution, the game looks real, thats what i see.

[FunkYellowMonkey]

Oh boy...

[falconm80]

Whoever says forza is better than GT isn't an adult..

Kids like games where you can paint and mess around with your car, but they are not into racing, they don't buy the game to examin their racing experience ( cuz they have no skills ),, they don't even have a steering wheel to play with,,, they just race with joypads which is noobish....... that's why they will never understand why GT series is a much better game than the painting game they play.

[P4KY B]

I own all the GT games. With the official GT wheel
And i have Forza 2. With the official Forza wheel
I also own a stripped out track prepared Honda Integra Type R DC2. Its not quite road legal. I have no interior except for the top half of my dashboard and door panels. Everything else has gone, from the sunvisors to the roof lining and even carpets. Its basically bare metal on the inside.
Mechanically its pretty extreme too.
0-60 in 5.8
I have to wear ear plugs to drive it.

Having tuned a DC2 to the same degree in forza 2 i can say that they drive the same.
I change the rigidness of the rear strut brace in the game, then did the same to my own car and the results were the same
(The only area where forza is inaccurate is in the sound effects dept.)

Try doing that in GT.
Kids (and adults who drive shopping carts) who can't drive think GT is real.
Adults who know how to drive know that Forza is more accurate.

[demolitionX]

anway, if GT5 is upscaled, KUDOS...as it looks like 1080p native and CGI look. good job guys!!!

[SpenserTracy]

1. If you stand in front of a television, no matter the resolution available today, you will see jaggies. It doesn't matter what console or PC you use, it's still visible. It is less apparent the higher resolution you get and GT5 looks the best ever.

2. I have played Forza2 and the gameplay sucks "AAA". It has the worst graphics i've seen in a racing game and you simply cannot steer the vehicle. Forza2 is nothing compared to this.

3. If you want to compare graphics or gameplay please compare it to a game that stands a chance.

4. I recommend anyone who considers buying a PS3 to play this game to go ahead, you will not be disappointed. These devs knows how to make racing games, Microsoft doesn't.

[DJ]

if they crop the frame vertically, we end up with huge black bars on both sides of the screen (which obviously isn't happening), and if they crop horizontally (which is what's being claimed), then that's a lot of unused pixels.

Some of the members of Beyond3D are actually questioning if the guy's video capture card can handle 1080p properly and is representing it at a lower quality/resolution, or if his screen is 1:1 1080p. We'll see if he's right or not, because the difference between just 720p and 1080p is staggering.

[jackdoe]

Is 1280 x 1080 even widescreen? I would think that upscaling to 1080p from a resolution like that would make it distorted and a no-no.

[hfaze]

Just like cable companies and digital satellite providers get more HD programming in their limited bandwidth. Reduce the resolution to 1280x1080, and it will look good when it is slightly upscaled to 1920x1080, but it does not take as much bandwidth as a native 1920x1080 signal would.

But still, a 1280x1080 signal upscaled to 1920x1080 will definitely look better than a 720p signal upscaled to 1080p... ;-)

[367 To Your Ass]

Gives it 2 distinct advantages over the PS3's RSX. First off 360 has, in essence, 10mb more memory than the PS3. The 10mb of framebuffer that it is hardwired to the GPU gives it ample bandwidth to provide enough power (when used in 2 tiles) to render a 1280x720 32bit (integer or floating) render, with up to 4xMSAA. Secondly, the 360's HANA video scalar takes this render and up/down scales to whatever your particular setup can display.

Sony's PS3 doesn't have this, which would explain why resolutions are very explicit. Now, that won't matter to a person who has a newer generation HDTV, especially Sony's Bravias. But 360's HANA is a hardware scaler. So, a 1280x720 render can be upscaled to that Bravia's 1920x1080 rating, while still retaining its previous sharpness. And the results are breath taking!

Now, in the case of Halo3 it renders at lower than 720p so that it can use much better HDR precision. And to that effect, I don't think I've ever seen better lighting. It's a game that may not have the pixel/vertex trumping prowess of Heavenly Sword, but IMO it's a great game nontheless.

[SpenserTracy]

360 memory is slow compared to the PS3 memory. And that is a fact! Look it up.....

[DJ]

"Halo3 renders at lower than 720p so that it can use much better HDR precision."

"a 1280x720 render can be upscaled to that Bravia's 1920x1080 rating, while still retaining its previous sharpness"

He's also wrong about the Xenos GPU's ED-RAM chip. It was built to handle 480p frames with 4x Anti-Aliasing, or 640p frames with 2x Anti-Aliasing. The Tiling feature that's required for 720p or higher isn't built into the hardware; it has to be done manually through the game code, which is why so many developers had such a tough time with the GPU and bandwidth management.

The ED-RAM has very fast internal bandwidth, but its connection to the GPU is at around 30GB/s, and still needs to copy and paste each tile of the framebuffer back into GDDR3 memory (which eats into the system memory bandwidth). Microsoft should've paid the money for a 32MB ED-RAM chip if they expected the system to run 720p and 1080p resolutions with any form of anti-aliasing; had they done so the 360 GPU would've had a big advantage over the PS3's for z-buffer and anti-aliasing functions.

Developers actually prefer RSX since it's superior for pixel processing (as well as some other neat things) and has resolution functions built in just like normal GPUs. They tell to render at ____ resolution, and it does it. No need to create custom tiling routines in the game code.

Edit*: Thanks, guys. =]

[mighty_douche]

very informative. bubble.

[The Wood]

bubble

[SpenserTracy]

These guys can sample the image in what resolution they want. Its still 1920x1080 in the game. If you upscale a game to 1920x1080 from the resolution they got, it would smear the cars all over the screen. Stupido idioto, listen and learn.

[gunnar2906]

I got 1080p TV set and my ps3 upscaling feature off
It looks the 1080p game - WTF?

[Charlie2688]

Upscaled or not it still looks F-ING AMAZING O.O

[mighty_douche]

go look at some of the bloody screen shots or trailers this game looks gorgeous!

[sonarus]

forza has the simulation driving nailed down better?????? If ur gonna make comments like this explain give examples dnt jst disagree with any1 that dosent agree with ur opinion. There is no debating that GT5 is the best lookin drivin game so far. I have been hearing forza has better gameplay and i intend to play the demo again 2day to see what you mean but it would be nice to make points so its easier 4 me to notice

[Maddens Raiders]

returning from vacation. The game looks and *sounds great and I noticed no jaggies. Plus there's no upgrade to the crowd or the tracks it seems from GT4. I can see the team working though; they are concentrating on the car models, sounds and feel of the game/interface at the moment and I'm confident that the finshed product will crush.

One thing I'm concerned with/noticed is when in the cokkpit mode with a MT, why doesn't the hand come off steering wheel to change gears?

[DJ]

(real driving mimics videogames, heh) but I'm not sure which cars have it besides the Ferraris. Maybe they just didn't get around to doing the gear shift AI/Animation?

[Maddens Raiders]

i'm aware of the tiptronic steering wheel levers at the rear but didn't see any finger moving (not trying to be picky) so I wonder if they're going to work it in or if anyone has noticed. I'm hoping these are just rough edges of the outline and the draft will impress. I've yet to be disappointed w/ the games in this series. Ferrari's have tiptronic steering as well as Porsche (RUF, and some Bimmers and Jaguars do as well. But not all cars like in the demo. I know the Lancer does so maybe they're simulating this behind the wheel steering. Take care...

[rushbd]

He said

"for me GT5 prologue is more clean than all other cars game like PGR3, Forza2, PGR4... (2x PGR4 framerate, 2x PGR4 MSAA, 2x PGR4 nb cars, better filtering, photorealistic lighting...) replay with this others demo for compare
the visual comfort and the visibility is awesome in this GT5 prologue"

"but no jaggie is easy, very very lot of blur and the jaggies disappear... but details too, transform HD game in SD game, it's not good. we want very sharp/detailed image and clean, not just clean
GT5 prologue is very sharp/detailed and relatively clean for this type of game"

It stand it's THE best looking racing game in the world. NOTHING will change that.

[Gondee]

You gota take in to account that those games are trying to accomplish diffrent things, while GT3 is about the crazy realistic car models, Forza is about driving simulation to the bone. PGR4 had very good enviorments, and weather efffets.

Not everyhting can be compared

[ElementX]

Just goes to show that games don't have to be 1080p to look good. Sony fans, take note and quit talking sh!t about the 360 and lack of 1080p games.

[DEADEND]

Why are some people b1tching for the game looks amazing and it's running at 60fps. Can you show me a game besides KILLZONE 2 or CRYSIS that looks as good as GT5 Prologue, hell this isn't eve GT5 so can you imagine what that's going to be like.

[onewinedangel]

far cry 2 (pc) rachet and clank future,little big planet and uncharted(ps3)and they are only second gen i cannot wait for God of War 3 and FFXIII

[zonetrooper5]

Kickin it out!

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A work in progress
You bleed just like you puke while running a mile

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Your market value, your resurrection (your resurrection)
Your shallow concept
Help yourself, I hope you choke and you die
I know you meant it, nice f**king disguise so hollow
Embrace the burn
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Do you feel okay? You look pretty low, very handsome awkward

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Your dream vacation, is my hostage refuge
A work in progress
You bleed just like you puke while running a mile

I beg to differ, make me an offer
Warm summer rain
You bleed just like you puke while running a mile
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! (handsome awkward)

Hey are you okay? You look pretty low, very handsome awkward
Do you feel okay? You look pretty low, very handsome awkward

Hey are you okay? You look pretty low, pretty low! pretty Low! Pretty handsome awkward!
Do you feel okay? You look pretty low, pretty low! pretty Low! Pretty handsome awkward!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Kickin it out!
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Kickin it out!
Yeah! Yeah!
Kickin it out!
Kickin it out!

[green_ghost5]

Jesus christ, that nasim douche bag needs to get laid or something.
oh yeah and the 360 isn't so inferior to your PS3 so why don't you get the f*** over it. Are you going to edit your post again? ahahahahahaha fu*king loser.

[ActionBastard]

Is it because a DEMO looks better than a damn near 3rd gen 360 game? Yeah Forza 2, I'm talking to you.

[jcgamer]

hehe...I've always thought the GT series looked better than Forza, but I just didn't tell anyone...on second thought, I didn't have to...it's OBVIOUS...and heck, while we're at it, the GT HD demo looked better too..."GASP"...No, he DIDN'T...YES, I DID...hehe...I may be a happy and proud 360 owner...but sir, I am not BLIND...and Action Bastard...c'mon, be nice...lighten up...hehe...that's like Angelina Jolie telling Whoopi or Kathy Griffin that she looks better than them...OBVIOUS...there are certain things that are best left unsaid...so true...so true...lol

[367 To Your Ass]

If DJ had read it more thoroughly (no harm done, and not offended ), he would have not had to post his response. I said 2 tiles, right? Yes, the 10mb can only fit 640p2x or 480p4x. That's the given performance WHEN TRYING TO FIT INTO 1 TILE! Memexport function allows for the exporting of data to that other partition of memory, but besides that, tiling IS a technique that 360 devs have access to. Yes, they could've allotted more memory to diminish the neccesity of said work around. But do try to remember this:

Toe to toe, 200bucks less didn't cripple the 360's ability to render great games. And THAT says a lot about how developers have acquired the knowledge neccesary to work with BOTH architectures, even when going from one to the other. Some developers have not, however. And that's why certain games just come out differently.

[DJ]

because otherwise system bandwidth and memory latency take huge hits; GDDR RAM by nature has high latency. We've heard directly from developers that had the ED-RAM capacity been larger, almost every 360 title would have been in HD. As it stands, there's something like 20 titles that we know of (including Halo 3) that are not even close to HD resolution.

360 devs have been trying to figure out ways to bypass ED-RAM since it requires so much manual work and gives little benefits in its current setup (unless the game engine doesn't require much system bandwidth). There's titles that already do it, but the ED-RAM controls anti-aliasing so it's difficult to live without it.

The way Xbox 360 Renders:
-Xenos rasterizes a frame, and renders it in separate tiles.
-Tiles are sent from GDDR3 RAM through Xenos to the ED-RAM connection.
-ED-RAM does its thing, and sends the tiles back through Xenos, which places them back in GDDR3 memory, and pieces them together into one frame.

The way PS3/PC Renders:
-The GPU renders to GDDR3 memory.

[367 To Your Ass]

Alright, if it makes you feel better, I'll go out and buy a PS3. But I won't be smiling:)

(the agree cam from me, btw)

[DJ]

Yeah, this is just tech stuff dude. Has nothing to do with quality of the gameplay on either system since it's really just GPU functions.

[Martini]

I thought that frame starts in memory then goes to GPU where it's rendered and then it goes on screen, GPU does rendering, not memory. You make it sound like memmory does rendering which is not possible ?!

[bootsielon]

640p

[felidae]

i thought there is no interior view in GT5 Prologue demo?!?

[Kyur4ThePain]

People are clutching at a DEMO not being 1080p!!!
Pathetic.
Oh, and South Africa just beat England in the 2nd most boring RWC final.
Go Bokke!!!

[QuackPot]

For Sothern Hemisphere Footy.

But it should have been an All Black vs Springboks Final.

[zonetrooper5]

Sorry for my previous post, I have been listening to that song way to much but its too awesome. =D

[ShiftyLookingCow]

bubbles for screwing up the continuity in this "serious" discussion

"Your market value, your resurrection (your resurrection)
Your shallow concept
Help yourself, I hope you choke and you die
I know you meant it, nice f**king disguise so hollow
Embrace the burn
You bleed just like you puke while running a mile"

sounds like someone dressed as Jesus for Halloween and got smote by God.

[Mu5afir]

People think Forza is a better driving simulator then GT. (/sad day in gaming)

[ReBurn]

Since when does upscaled vs. not upscaled make a difference in how fun the game is? The majority of people playing it aren't going to be able to play at 1080p anyway. I guess if there's nothing else to complain about...

[jackdoe]

Upscaling games to 1080p isn't a problem for me if it is done right and GT5 looks like they're doing it right.

[367 To Your Ass]

read this

http://www.beyond3d.com/con...

They're just trying work in tight spaces. Neither the 360's 512mbGDDR3+10mbED-RAM nor the ps3's 256mbXDRAM+256mbGDDR3 is comparable to a modern PC's setup. So, SDKs are being configured to make good use of the little memory available. What's important to note is that it's a lot like going i instead of p. And through this article, it is proven that a PS3 hardware scaler might indeed be in existence.

[Wii60_FTW]

what happened to "two 1080p displays at 120 frames a second"?? LOL

bottom line: ps3 is overhyped trash.

[sonarus]

when 360 games stop struggling to reach 720p at 30fps with a consistent frame rate let me knw.

[gunnar2906]

When Kutaragi told about 120 framerate possible with PS3 he ment only that HDMI 1.3 specification ALLOWS to have it. Take a look at specs at hdmi.org site - 1.3 version of HDMI is capable to manage up to 120 frames per secon with Full HD resolution supporting 48-bit color scheme, while componet connection is able to support up to 1080i resolution and HDMI 1.2 version can do only 24-bit colored 1080p resolution with only up to 30 frames per second...
That is all... any complains about absence of 120 fps in games are rudiculous .. actually there are 2-3 modern TV-sets of late 2007 that are able to support this frame rate... When they become more popular and widely spread at our homes it IS POSSIBLE to create games with 120 frame rates for PS3 while 360's users are locked with 60 fps / 1080i w/o HDMI and only 30 fps /1080p with HDMI.

[7ero H3LL]

go play bioshock and see if 360 is sh!tin you.

skate sucks on ps3 anyway 30 fps with pathetic dips and frame rate hiccups.

darkness looked better on 360 than ps3

madden 08 for ps3 ...............hahahahahahahah .

and even UT3 on ps3 .....30 fps.

HEAVENLY SWORD .....30 fps and even lower dips.

IF YOUR NOT A FAN OF 30 fps THEN DON'T PLAY THOSE GAMES

[Fighter]

You expect games to be running at 120fps for all first year PS3 titles? You have to be stupid as hell because it takes time to get to the top.

@FabNMun

The 1up show confirms that UT III for the PS3 runs at 60fps and they claim it's smooth game play with no jaggies or screen tear.

To Wii60_FTW and FabNMun: View the attached picture because it's for you.

[Ri0tSquad]

You talk dirt about the PS3 yet when God of war 3 comes out you said you'll buy this "overhyped trash". Look at what this clown said.

"EDIT: WHOOPS. Guess someone forgot I was getting a PS3 when God of War 3 ships. Like I said, hopefully KZ2 has good AI, if at all possible, even on the level of Halo 3's on Legendary (which no game on this planet comes even close to rivaling right now), although I highly doubt KZ2 will. If it's at least good, I'll get it. A good game needs more than motion blur."

"lmao @ any and all sony dogs who honestly believed it wasn't coming. Like I said, considering how sh1tty the BS3 hardware is, I'd even expect the 360 version to hit first. owned."

Your no different then the rest of the kids with 3 or less bubbles who are all full of sh!t. Don't even bother taking his bubbles away just save some your self some time and put this guy on ignore.

[Wii60_FTW]

first of all, M$ sent me a FREE brand-new 360 after my last one broke. I'm not complaining. considering how amazing the 360 games are, who gives a sh1t about a free repair once a year. you'd sony guys would be so lucky.

second, I am getting a PS3 for God of War 3. I f*cking couldn't live without a nextgen God of War. That doesn't change the fact that the PS3 itself is garbage and that Sony are f*cking up every way possible this gen. get it now? I am getting PS3 next year, although I really don't want to. I just want god of war 3.

[Funky Town_TX]

Yes it does.

[Fighter]

at all the jealous Xbots who are bashing the DEMO of GT 5 Prologue. Sony will always give you the old build of a game as a demo because they are still working on the final product.

Ratchet and Clank demo was also from the old build of the the game and Uncharted will be the same. It's funny to see these Xbots comment on a game they don't have on a system that they only dream of having. Dream on, suckers.

[Saint Sony]

Who cares? GT5 is just made for people like Posh Spice. Persons who really think they are important.

[wageslave]

Forza plays better.
PGR4 looks better.

There isnt a driving game on the PS3 that rated -- on metacritic --even remotely close to the great drivers on Xbox 360.

Let me introduce you to a little reality. Here is a list of the top racing games for Xbox 360 and PS3:

(Position in the Console's Library - Title - Release year -- METACRITC SCORE)

PS3:
13 DiRT: Colin McRae Off-Road 2007 82
14 MotorStorm 2007 82
15 Gran Turismo HD Concept 2006 82
34 Sega Rally Revo 2007 78
36 Ridge Racer 2006 78

Xbox 360:
8 Forza Motorsport 2 2007 90
12 Burnout Revenge 2006 89
13 Project Gotham Racing 3 2005 88
20 Project Gothum Racing 4 2007 85
30 DiRT: Colin McRae Off-Road 2007 83
31 Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 83
36 Test Drive Unlimited 2006 82
54 Sega Rally Revo 2007 81
66 Moto GP 06 2006 80
69 FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage 2007 80
100 Need for Speed Carbon 2006 77
111 Stuntman: Ignition 2007 75

So. What is of note here?

A) The mutli-platform titles (Sega Rally, DiRT) have better scores on Xbox 360.
B) The only PS3 exclusive (Motorstorm) scores worse than Every Single Xbox 360 Exclusive.
C) RIDGE! RACER! Remember that?
and
D) If PGR4 *was* released on the PS3 it would not only be the best Racing title, but it would be the SECOND HIGHEST SCORING exclusive in the whole PS3 Library. Only barley exceeded by Resistence 86. Further, PGR4 is just out, there is a chance that score could go up a point or two...

[Lex Luthor]

I've just played the gt5 demo, and i can reassure you that Forza 2 has the better gameplay. Handling, physics you name it. In GT5 you're still able to bounce around like bumper cars. Forza 2 has the pioneering gameplay. Gameplay in Forza 2 is better in every way; handling, physics, AI. Simply superb. GT5 has FAR superior car models though.

PSN: BrixtonSteve

[Enigma_2099]

I'm right aren't I?

Jezus Christ...

[DeZimatoR]

Unlike some other high profile games :)

And still the best looking game on any console till now, IMO. I think it will be beaten by Gt5 (the full game though), AHAH :p

Ah, and Killzone and FFXIII/vs will give GT a run for its money too I think...

[WilliamRLBaker]

its still worse ownage, Because microsoft didn't bank all their games to be capable of 120fps, and 1080p.

they didn't market so hardcore before launch and after that they're console did 1080p...ect and then it came out less then 25 games do it on the system and the ones that do about 30% upscale instead of do native.

[Boink]

as long as it looks and plays good, what difference does what "tricks" they use make?

seriously, some people need to get a life...

[shysun]

So what is it then? Isn't that still HD?

[solidt12]

Anything 720p and up is true HD. Some people posting up here do not understand what HD is and need to read up on it before you post. 1080p is also HD but not required to be true HD. It is just the highest resolution we see on Consumer TV's right now.

[badkolo]

If it looks as realistic as people say and it plays well then whats the problem, great graphics and good gameplay and im fine, as long as its nota boring racer then why not.

But i hope they didnt give all the power to the cars and hdr and make everythinglooks like crap, like fake backrounds and stuff, but i have been waiting for a real nex hen gt game so i hope its as good as some of you say, how do i get a jap account so i can tyr it out, do i need to erase my account or what??

[techie]

On my TV it runs at 720p with 4xAA, HDR, with the best modelled cars around and 16 of them...at 60fps. I MEAN WTF...that's insane in itself. We knew both the demo and prologue wouldn't be true HD (we had a suspicions at least)...whether the full release will be is another question. It's not set in stone.

But it will be in HD at 60fps, we know that much.

[WilliamRLBaker]

lets see sony is the ones that promise 1080p 120fps in all games, they promised 1080p in this particular title.
and you get all that stuff with 2d high res bitmap backgrounds...

[techie]

No willy, Sony didn't promise 1080p 120fps for ALL their games. They said their console could do 1080p and that a lot of their games would support it. 120fps was a kutiragi quote out of context.

Plus, PD have been very open that they are AIMING for 1080p for GT5...no mention of prologue, and no promises that they would make it. There biggest promise was 60fps, with the best visuals in a racing game. And they've kept it.

[badkolo]

thats another thing , like a post above, i dont care what tricks they use to make a game look photrealistic or look amazing, thats not tricks ot me, thats better devving, better devs learn the system and learn new techniques , so those tricks are actually new technioques that make the image appear better, ill take that over a dev that cant make better graphics anyday, as long as the gameplay is good.

[jazzmanb]

final game well look no better than demo..demo is the final game engine..forza is just as good in terms of sim...in fact the first forza was better than any turismo,in terms of realism[read reviews] this should be on par w/ forza 2 for realism...not better...also who keeps saying 2 times the resolution..are you on crack..pgr4 and forza 2 are 720p...turismo demo is 720p as well..get a clue already you freakin fanboys...the ps3 is not as powerful as the 360,despite the hype sony fed you...trust me this is no bs,i know many developers who are working on games for both platforms..i know what system is more powerful,and its not the ps3...though the 360 is only slightly more powerful..you guys well know the truth once assasins creed,unreal and gta come out...until then,i guess you cats well keep dreaming.

[solidt12]

lol. your dreaming if you think Forza looks better. I like how you can customize your cars and stuff but it doesn't even comes close when it comes to graphics.

[kevin1122]

where do people get thinking the 360 is stronger than the ps3. isnt it common knowledge yet that the ps3 is stronger.

[solidt12]

I downlaoded the demo and played it. I also have Forza 2 and I can honestly say this looks better than any other driving Sim that I have ever played. The Full game doesn't come out until next year so even if they don't have it in full 1080p(which doesn't really matter to me) it will be the best driving game ever. The car look very very real and some times you cant tell it from reality.

[Mikey_Gee]

Saying "UPSCALED OR NOT IT STILL LOOKS AWSOME" (and I agree)

BUT .........

Why when XBOX 360 owners say this about their console and games do the PS3 fans rip at them. But now the shoe is on the other foot and Sony fans are saying that now it is OK.

Same goes for Backward Compatibility ... it was rubbed in the face of 360 owners since the console was not 100% BC and it was a big deal since the PS3 had full BC. Now that the PS3 is starting to remove it .... once again ... Sony fans are saying it is OK !!

I hate double standards .... and this site is littered with them !!!

[patriotZero]

dead

[DaEnforcer]

Well at least it's not real 1080p instead of not real 720p haha

[WilliamRLBaker]

its still worse ownage, Because microsoft didn't bank all their games to be capable of 120fps, and 1080p.

they didn't market so hardcore before launch and after that they're console did 1080p...ect and then it came out less then 25 games do it on the system and the ones that do about 30% upscale instead of do native.

[DaEnforcer]

But MS did say all their games will run @ 720p + 4xAA. Now you have it buddy ;)

[WilliamRLBaker]

and sony did say all their games would run at 1080p 120fps.
*FACT Ken said so*

Oh and Microsoft didn't say all games did so, They said it was a standard they set for devs to produce games in 720p with 4xAA.

P.S: its still worse ownage Sony promised 1080p in all games and 120fps, they promised alot of stuff that they've never delivered on. Oh and that game you make light of? it will sell more then GT could ever hope too.

[7ero H3LL]

ps3
http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...

360
http://www.gamersyde.com/po...

[ExLivingGhost]

what part of port from 360 you dont understand?

[Seph]

unbelievable..

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

What goes around comes around and it's been comming around to you guys all year.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

is it ok for a full finished product to run in 640p then upscaled and its not ok for a DEMO of unfinished product not to run at 1080p nativly because its on PS3?

See this is a typical post that really gets on my nerves. Why would you care? As a consumer thats all you are, a consumer!! So long as your choosen product works, is supported which it is, why would any really care how Sony treated their 3rd party devs so long as you get want YOU want,and if you cant get it at the Sony camp go else where.

All this negativity is really really getting old. I mean for gods sake, the xb360 has a 30% failure rate/ which includes noisy drives, units that scratch games, dead drvies etc, theyre still fixing the backlog..... Go ask your parents would they buy a car if they knew it had that chance of a failure rate or a TV or a Kettle, i know i would stand bloody clear of anything that company produced..

Why are ppl SOOOOO down on Sony, when MS has lied and lied about the 360 problem, ( news flash - THEY ALL LIE !!!! ) until eventually when almost every single news site on the web was publishing stories they caved in, and shoved 1 bill at it to fix their problem and then next week everyone is like oh no problem.

Why are ppl so forgiving of MS??? They released a product lied about it reliability. I laugh at your post.. they need to personally apologise to every developer.. why cos you think so?

grow up and come to the real world

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Hypocrite! after that you go on a negative rant against MS (3 paragraphs of negativity)You are the very definition of the word hypocrite and "DROID". Now take your whiny crybaby Droid ass somwhere and sigh a petition or somthing.

[airforcex]

How can anyone be intereted in Forza or GT5? The formula has been done many times. Get your licenses, tweak your car and blah blah blah...What changes? the graphics? It's that all?

[airforcex]

Forza and GT5 have been done many times. Why is anyone interested in this old games with new graphics? These are wastes of money. 0% creativity.

[tk]

So they upscaled a 1280x1080 to 1920x1080. So it is double 720p with 1280 upscaled to 1920. Hell - sounds good to me - actually better than anything else out there at the moment - and be careful about trashing this comment - it might be true.

To the fanboys on both sides - very very very few titles will run in native 1080p. And as good as the devs got things right now - those titles will be in the 3rd / 4th year of the console.

Heck - the XB360 cannot event get to this yet - so soon the PS3 will overtake the graphics race. But that does not make better games. So pipe down. Bioshock and Halo 3 proved that a game in 640p can look great - great enough to be best sellers. So calm down and enjoy the games. There will be good games all around. For me - being the die-hard Sony fan - I am looking forward to MGS4, KZ2, GT5, R&C, Uncharted.

I like my ultra reliable PS3 - even removed the VHS/DVD player to the older TV - and now all DVD / BR titles get played on the PS3 on the video projector when not playing games. The games look great, plays well - and a little upscaling - while still being the best looking title is not going to cause me sleepless nights.

[Pika-pie]

Christ - Who really gives a damn, does the average person even care.

Sony haters will love this.

[aggh im on fire]

What is it with the resolution comments lately. So what if some games are not true 1080p. Can anyone really tell when there playing them. A good game is a good game no matter whether its in 720 or 1080 or even 480 come to think of it. Look at blacksite area 51. This is in a higher resolution to halo3 but does that make it a better game? Having played it i don't think so.
Having played the GT demo i think its looking great, and so it should GT has lead the way in racing game graphics since the 90s. Will it be better than Forza2? Well thats personnal opinion. I love forza's paintshop and physics but i also love the racing in GT. There both great racing games. Graphics are impotant obviously they add greatly to the feel of immersion, but you can have the best graphics in the world it doens't neccesarily make for a good game. Gameplay first, graphics later. So lets stop with all this resolution nonsense and judge games on what matters...whether there enjoyable to play or not.

[beardtm]

LOL @ GT Prologue.

All you Sony fanboys waiting for this legendary 1080p game that runs at 60fps have just been PWNED!

Too bad.

[xg-ei8ht]

Let me set the record straight yet again.

DIRT: Please let me know how this game is called realistic, it is not. You cannot stop of gravel point blank like u do in dirt. Its idiotic.

Carbon: Yeah 360 owners gotta be loving the cartoon graphics, damm Most wanted on pc eats it alive.

ON the subject of Dirt, I find it strange it got lower scores the ps3, considering it has a Firm raterate( the 360 has many slowdowns)(360 has overuse of bloom)The ps3 looks better, runs better, has 7.1 surround sound/ Smell of fanboyism. Yes most 360 reviews do.

Also consider this, The 360 came out alot earlier, so its only normal reviewers would have bought for themselves a 360, Would they really want to knock they're own console.

Its abit like ratface woman at the ms show going on about how they had the best show, yet everyone else knew it was total crap.

ALso nearly everygame mentioned above running better on 360 hardware are quick ports of old games.

Fear for example: can run on a 7800gtx in 1280x720p easily at 60fps. Smells of a rush, And also everyone should know, none of the spu's were used for this game: oops

I'll say one last thing, the 360 does have many decent games, all running at 640p or lower.

But Most ps3 games run alot higher and will only get higher and run faster, once spu's are properly used. Every dev out there knows this.

You should not be knocking a system which is alot faster in every respect, beit processor,shaders.soundsystem, storage.

PS3 XMAS 2007-2008. Play beyond.

[Salvadore]

What comes around goes around..

[teto83]

get over it.

[Zeevious]

What's the point of these kinds of arguments?

To start: 1280x1080 upscaled to 1920x1080 is NOT 50%, that would be a 1920x1620 screen. It's at the most a 25-33% 'sidescale' lol.

Technicaly, it depends on how the 'repeating pixels in anamorphic widescreen' is actually performed.
The pixels could be part of the psycho-visual model used by GT5 assembling the full 1920x1080 frame and not 'sidescaled' at all.

Perceptible upscaling depends on the size of your screen, distance from it and screen settings.

More to the point: If you NEED to capture the screen with a computer and count the pixels...WHO CARES, other than the pixel counter?

To the unaided eye, any 480p DVD can be upscaled 125% to 1080p and people viewing love the enhanced resolution, WITHOUT counting pixels.

I'll let my eyes judge the quality, not a capture-card and PhotoStop.

[gunnar2906]

it is taken from Philips TVset in 1080p mode - no upscaling enabled on PS3 .. no borders on sides of picture (these may occur as a cropping result of placing 1280*1080 picture on a screen with 1920*1080 resolution) or top/bottom clipping (placing 1920*1620 upscaled picture on a 1920*1080 screen)
http://gunnar.comtv.ru/noup...

All written in article above is nothing but BS

[-SIXAXIS-]

It doesn't matter. The cars still look photorealistic and I thought upscaling didn't matter to you XBOX fanboys when it turned out Halo 3 wasn't even 720P. At least GT5P has an HD resolution.