Kaz Hirai Confirms PSN numbers are larger due to multiple accounts

Gamers Outlook "In Sony's recent press conference on the PSN from Sony's executive deputy president, offered the company's first public apology for the PSN however he also stated the PSN Larger than due to multiple accounts "Duality"."

[Warprincess116]

They didn't mention this when they were bragging about those numbers at E3

[BrianG]

Haha, why would you?

But this is obvious, well, one would think it is. Multiple accounts are common. I know people with multiple PSN's, Live accounts, Twitter's, FB's, etc... They all say their respective numbers but don't divulge some might be multiples.

Also consider households. The ratio is definitely not 1 PS3 to account. I have 5 accounts on mine, my 2 multiples and 2 for family.

[TOO PAWNED]

Well said War. But can't blame them.

[EYEamNUMBER1]

i thought i had 6 accounts on my ps3 turns out i actually have 9 for japan and europe store as well

[MaxXAttaxX]

And the numbers were substantially closer, almost as many as the actual number of units sold.

So in a way, PSN account numbers are a slightly different subject.

[gamingdroid]

"Actually they did mention "active" systems before."

What constitutes active? Communicated with Sony in the last 4-years from the same PS3? Logged in the last 30-days? Signed up?

Active is a very subjective word. We all know it is substantially less than that.

[shoddy]

when I try to sign in, it get suspended.

thus Company can tell wich account is active or not.

maybe if you haven't sign into psn for months/years, psn won't count your account as active.

anyone know if inactive cost Sony money?

[ShinMaster]

IP address? MAC address?

[BloodyNapkin]

And in other news MS reports that 360 numbers are larger due to multiple consoles.

[Will-UK]

Its all part of PR you cant expect them to show nothing but their best numbers how can they work out who has these dual accounts and subtract them from people who dont.

[lil Titan]

doesn't matter they're still numbers and my little nephew will NOT be playing on my account

[dantesparda]

Yeah, because on the 360 you cant make multiple accounts. People shut it with your bullshit! Facebooks claims around 500 million accounts, how many of those are multiple? And i have 13 accounts on my 360 so just shut it, ok!

Its funny to me how this debacle is somehow even worst than the RROD debacle of the 360 (btw im on my 5th 360). 2+ weeks of a free service down and fanboys of both sides start losing their minds, a red ring debacle that went on for years and had me lose about 5 months of my 360 time. And just cuz its not as bad anymore, after more than 5 yrs and fanboys have already forgotten

[gamingdroid]

I personally created multiple accounts on Xbox Live myself. I think the most important number is paying members of Xbox Live Gold and in my Xbox career I only had one.

Ironically, I have ever only had one PSN account. Go figure!

[Valk]

wait. people are talking about something recent and you want them to shut up but you're still crying over soemthing from 4 years ago? Seems like it is time to take your own advice dude.

[dantesparda]

@ Valk
From 4 years ago?! really?! keep believing that bullshit! And my point is how hypocritical 360 fanboys are acting, but im cant see that. Peace kid!

[ipe]

and this guy went through 15 360s
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

no wonder there are only cc 15 million gold live users(aka online)

[testerg35]

LOL

[Stryfeno2]

You would be a fool not to think that...Everyone I know have more then 1 account.

[testerg35]

Tell that to all the peeps bragging on previous articles.

[Nitrowolf2]

what when they said that back at E3? I don't think anyone was bragging about it, in fact many of us were pointing out that we have multiple accounts.

It's been said that PSN account can be made on PC, PSP, PS3, and even Televisions.

[Valk]

LOL sure dude... Nobody was bragging...I am sure you just completely missed over all the people boasting how it was so close to xbox live numbers..

[kneon]

Close to XBox live numbers? PSN numbers aren't close, they blow live out of the water. Now if you subtract all those multiple accounts it gets closer. But still they said there are 37+million PS3s registered on PSN so there are probably at least that many unique accounts.

We have 3 PS3s, 4 users and 5 accounts for an average of 1.67 accounts per PS3. That's likely not typical though.

[Focker420]

I have 4, US, UK, Japan, and Hong Kong. Each one gets different stuff in the store.

@testerg35

Ummm bragging about what?? Out of every single article the past 2 weeks I haven't seen a single person brag about the 70+ million accounts.

[PirosThe4th]

I got like 7 accounts :P...

Most people I know got more than one.

It's obvious.

Considering is free and the marketplaces are different you can say the same about xbox live silver accounts. I don't know how they managed their numbers though.

[starcb26]

I made a lot of fake accounts so I could heart my levels in LPB and get tha platinum.

[Will-UK]

I agree alot of people have multiple accounts whether for online games or for content from foreign PSN Stores

[CynicalVision]

Well that makes sense, I seriously doubt anyone expected those accounts to all independent users. I have 2 myself, mainly because each region offers something different.

[rajman]

Its pretty obvious, who really believes theres 77 milion ps3 owners?

[BrianG]

Well small correction, PSN goes for the PSP as well. So 50 million PS3's plus 60+ million PSP's.

[Focker420]

It also extends to Bravia tv's and accounts created on PCs. You don't need a PSP or PS3 in order to have access to the PSN.

[DaTruth]

My PS3 and PSP account are the same! One of the few with just one account!

[MysticStrummer]

The same people who have been appearing in the comment section of every PSN article and saying 77 million people got their identities stolen believe it.

[Silly gameAr]

Thought everyone knew this? 77 million accounts and only 50 million PS3 worldwide? Common sense.

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

This news is one year old.

[Ninver]

No sh#t. I live in Aus and created multiple accounts for other regions in order to gt free demos and such. The online install base is around the initial sales i would presume.

edit:

Are people so retarded nowadays they can't even do simple math? Take 77 million and subtract it down to the initial sales install base. The left over is multiple accounts. sheesh!.

[Loner]

Hmm Yeah this was pretty obvious

[beeeffess]

MEANWHILE THE GRASS IS GREEN AND THE SKY IS BLUE

Really now, how is this news?

[Metfanant]

why is this news?

[GoldPS3]

No need to confirm something that most people already Sony lol.

[wenaldy]

Well, duh.... I have three account on myself (mainly Asia with Europe and NA account)

[LunaticBrandon]

When it was for bragging this wasn't mentioned but when its to make the hack seem less significant it is.

[baldulf]

We already know.

I have seven, as far as I remember.

[Shmotz]

Is this really a surprise to anybody? I had a Resistance: Fall Of Man buddy who claimed to have somewhere around 20 accounts. On top of the kids who play FPS' and make multiple accounts for high K/D's

[Dark_king]

Not that they couldn't have that many but 15 is the limit on 1 PS3.

[Shmotz]

Is it? I really don't know since my PS3 only had an account for others I live with.

[solidjun5]

Uh okay...I think we all knew that.

[zeal0us]

multiple accounts on psn make sense, seeing as you got free online gaming and etc

I believe each xbox come with 3 new accounts for gold for 1month, making more in hopes you will another month of is kinda pointless see as it won't work, plus xbl-silver don't have much to offer beside chatting and texting friends wow.

regardless out of 70million do really you think that there is going to be not 1 multiple account/multiple accounts made by one user?

[jack who]

Warprincess116
They didn't mention this when they were bragging about those numbers at E3

you won the internet

[kneon]

oops, responded in the wrong spot.

[F4sterTh4nFTL]

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[Xof]

Duh.

I have to have an NA, EU and JPN account because Sony's regional updates are so awful.

[Cosmit]

It was pretty obvious....right people?

[Raven_Nomad]

Duh, I mean seriously who thought they had that many unique users? I have 10 PSN's. 1 Jap, 1 EU, 1 Can and 7 American.

I don't know a single person with less then 5. It's always easier to start a new account if you struggle with one of the others.

[Zancruz]

Nice to meet Raven, Now you know one person that has just one account...

[Raven_Nomad]

I don't want to Call you a liar....but....I cant think of anything else to say.

[Zancruz]

Sorry friend, Lying is bad karma. So I don't lie unless I really need too. Lying to you about having one account is pointless, I gain nothing from it.

[Mikeyy]

Wow, guess im the only person that gets by with only one account..

[ElementX]

I have one account. Why would I want trophies and stuff spread out? I don't really care to download items from other territories.

[Mikeyy]

Same feelings here.

[Zancruz]

I never seen the point in one person having multiple accounts... Ive been using the same name where ever I go, No numbers or extra letters because of unoriginality. No dumbass names like (RapesYouOffInTheWoods) Something most people can't even live up too.... They're the funniest of all.

[hazelamy]

the point is getting content from other regions that isn't available in your home region.

[Zancruz]

Oh please, I highly doubt that even 10% percent of the psn users even knows that, Let a long have multiple accounts for that very reason.... I could be wrong, But I doubt that too.

[Will-UK]

I know some people who have multiple accounts simply for COD :S

[Zancruz]

Samehere, I have friends that have multiple accounts for their K/D rank and etc... But I still think that's dumb, I feel that my score and stats good or bad is my battle scars and it pushes me to be a all around better player, not a worst player by camping in corners worring about a Kill/Death ratio or leaving games earlier because the other team is playing better. I play to have fun, Make myself a valuable teammate and to call out bitch ass players.... Lol

[Will-UK]

@Zancruz I agree its just silly to keep making new accounts over K/D just play and enjoy the game

[earbus]

I only ever made one psn account why do people have so many to bolster online numbers ?

[kingPoS]

I have 2 ps3 so both accounts are on each ps3. But I can see why others would have a bunch on theirs. After all the only thing that'll stop you, would be region lock dlc.(usually overcome by having the right psn card)

[Masterchef2007]

This is pretty obvious i dont understand why he would even mention that. Maybe it does it to say that not as many different people have been affected by the hack because of multiple accounts.

Again dont take away my bubbles for stating this.

[Killzone3___]

i have 6 brothers , now count how accounts do we have :P , hehehehe .. i'll help you , it's more then 10 , lol.. i use different stores that's why i have alots of accounts ... if they had one store no one will creat alots of accounts.. but companies are greedy ..

[Jamaicangmr]

IF the playstation 3 has an install base of 50+ Million and the PSN has 77 million did we really need Mr. Hirai to state the obvious?

This didnt really deserve and article just a bullet point.