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Employees and analysts express concerns about its development structure and quality control
yeh i mean, we know its not because ff16. cause sony paid for the exclusivity.
its because of everything else
their nft bs
first soldier bombing
chocobo racing hombing
crystal cronicles not doing as well as they hoped
forespoken sorta bombing
kingdom hearts 4 is still in development and the mobile game too
its all of their side hustles just not doing well, outside of ff7 remake ha.
The actual title would suggest otherwise and they even said themselves that FF16 didn't perform as well as they hoped.
So their deals with Sony isn't paying off in the long run which is probably why recently both Phil on Square were on stage together
They is factually not what they said, that is what the media circus said.
They were on stage to announce FFXIV coming to xbox which was something they had been working on for years.
And it's funny how all the blame is placed on Sony when most of there recent releases have been on Switch which also had exclusive games that no one seems to talk about.
you dont lose 2Billion market value because of one game, that sold 3.5 mil. even more than that now.
its a whole barrage of things. as this article also says.
*its a whole barrage of things. as this article also says.*
With FF16 being a part of it as the article also makes mention. So excusing FF16 because of Sony paying for exclusivity would be wrong.
@einhander
I think they did say it and the media just reported on it.
https://www.eurogamer.net/f...
I guess we can also start blaming the Switch, anything and everything else I suppose.
FFXVI is already net profit. Please inform yourself before you discuss it, and don't take misleading titles as fact.
***With FF16 being a part of it as the article also makes mention. So excusing FF16 because of Sony paying for exclusivity would be wrong. ***
You're essentially trying to say it's FFXVI fault for not earning more money to cover for the huge losses elsewhere. What a ridiculous claim.
You have reading issues, that's fine, but what is said is that FFXVI couldn't cover the loss of the other games.
FFXVI itself has covered for it's costs and more
@Chris
This happens when you try to pigeonhole a narrative into a general statement. Logic tells us that FF16 probably already paid for itself. But he is trying to push this narrative so hard but it is logically inconsistent.
Yeah, I'm sure the whopping sales potential of an xbox version, which JRPGs typically perform poorly on, and with gamepass cannibilisation really would have made up for the company as a whole dropping 2 billion. It should get a decent bump from the PC version though at least.
Also FF16 was not the driving factor behind this and you know it.
maniacmayhem
No, that's wrong.
What he was talking about is projections.
So Square presumably said we expect this game to sell between 1m and 5m and they sold 3m.
What he said was "we didn't meet the high end projection" but they factually said multiple times that they game met sales expectations and was profitable.
The game sold 3m in it's first week, what other game has ever sold 3m in one week and come under this level of criticism... it's just a media smear campaign.
It'll sell on pc sure but it ain't selling much on xbox that's been proven in the past numerous times. It's even worse now, hell ms don't even release real sales numbers anymore , there's a reason why
No bro. I said a while back that they weren't pleased with the sales. I was told there was no proof.
@Gold drake
You can't act like FF not selling how they hoped didn't contribute though.
Literally not what they said, infact they said the exact opposite. They said ff16 had sold well and met expectations given the install base of ps5. It had a higher attach rate than ff7 remake part 1.
@gold_drake it sold 3.5 million on a console the supposedly sold over 40 million ? And that’s worldwide that’s literally only 7.5% of the ppl who own PS5 bought FF16 .. Ppl just hate to admit that Sony deal isn’t paying off as much ..
You guys are desperate trying your best to paint a different picture despite many articles here and what I left actually say.
FF 16 did not meet sales expectations, and couldn't offset their losses, facts, this along with Square's many other failed games has not only caused them to sell their western devs but now rethink their platform releases.
But yeah FF 16 being on one platform didn't add to Square's already financial problem, everyone here knows more than the actual muliple stories being reported about Square and Square saying it themselves.
Can we not pretend that Square-Enix has made multiple bad decisions over the years with just as many flops as they've had wins alongside their ridiculous sales expectations? Porting everything to everything will not help them out of this mess they created for themselves (Phil can't do squat for them), they just need more games to succeed and have less flops.
@Einhander
Might even have more switch exclusives than ps exclusives at this point. They also have Octopath Traveller which is on xbox and not ps, which people also seem to forget.
I'd imagine MS would have bought them by now if they weren't stuck in the Activision deal. Especially now that the price is dropping and now that they have all these sony deals. Same idea as with Bethesda.
Ff16 was not going to do billions in sales and will not do billions once on other platforms.
They should have asked more money from Sony.
Hope they learned their lesson... NEXT TIME ASK FOR WAY MORE MONEY.
I'd be curious to what Sony spent but it was probably a kings ransom. Pc will help ff16 but ff16 isn't the issue.
Personally I'm blaming the switch exclusives, no physical for releases etc
Can you conceptualize the difference between 2 Billion dollars and the budget of a video game?
Hint: Sony games generally cost around 200m.
FF16's budget was insanely high... 711 million. That's over 10 million copies, assuming every penny goes back to Square (it doesn't, they get like 70% of that), just to break even. Sony probably funded half of that, so in reality Square probably isn't far from break even, but that is still an astronomically high development cost that is far too difficult to recoup at $70/copy. At this point, even if they do break even, they're relying on bargain bin sales to keep any actual profit flowing in.
I think they went way over-budget and need to re-evaluate their development practices in order to keep budgets under tighter control.
That's kinda crazy cause square has said ff16 is already profitable. I'm not sure who to believe frosty or square(the horses mouth)
That's not what they spent developing FFXIV, that was their total game spending budget for the latest fiscal year including ALL games and their respective marketing.
All this needs is a trophy patch when the NGP comes out.
make it like final fantasy vii: crisis core
and it's good to go
i hope
2 UMDs lol.. SE has been on fire on the handhelds this generation. Nevermind FF13, but check out the handhelds SE games.