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Anonymous responds to PSN-users

PSX-Sense writes: "Anonymous just released a video which is meant for the PSN-users. Many people say it is Anonymous who is responsible for the downtime, but Anonymous denies. They say in a video that it is an internal problem in the servers of Sony. "

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Joni-Ice5173d ago

Who cares Anonymous, go away!

Winter47th5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

N4G's turning into an IRC chat with all this so called news-spams.

I_find_it_funny5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Sony > Anon

end of story

hay5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

For an anonymous group they sure care about their web image.
One could easily read quite a lot about people who make those videos from the way they (re)act.

limewax5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

The pathetic thing is their statement was basically this.

Its not us, PS. Sony hates you and is trying to end the world, join us

This is clearly the effort of kids, anybody with a brain would realise a legitimate explanation does not follow with a but

Aggesan5173d ago

I'm getting so bored of anonymous. Can't people just stop writing articles about them? Nobody cares about them anymore anyway.

FACTUAL evidence5173d ago

Wow....anonymous get dumber and dumber every fucking day....they said that other members of anonymous acted out but anops didn't. So doesn't that defeat the whole, "we are one, we are legion, we are anonymous" slogan?.....Yeah..nice try idiots, anonymous is anonymous, it's too late. You rejects are finally realizing that NO ONE likes you for your blind actions.

You try to make it seem as if you're the heroes but don't realize your the antagonist. You guys are outcast to the gaming community, you'll never fit in no matter how hard you try. It's to late, bring psn back up and hide in your caves in shame. You guys are officially the outcast of the gaming/tech industry.

HappyGaming5173d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Its now Anon vs FBI...

lol Anonymous are such losers taking big risks for no reason...

Lets see them send threat videos to the FBI looool

DragonKnight5173d ago

I am officially begging mods and admins of this site to PLEASE block any Anonymous "news" from appearing on this site. Enough is enough. It's like every 5 minutes there's a new post about these failures at life. I'd say no one cares, but the comments prove otherwise. Please, let's just end this. It is an offense to our minds and our senses.

PRHB HYBRiiD5173d ago

lol they sound like robots o.o

darthawesome905173d ago

If anonymous wants people to like them find out where the trillions of the Bush/Obama stimulus bill went. Until then I really don't want to hear of the hacker group anonymous

OMGitzThatGuy5173d ago

@Gumtrol

Lol, You fail son that video was from January '09 and that was bout Mastercard lol

Dee_915173d ago

i dont understand why people treat this like a psa from someone major
anon r nobodies

just random people on the internet thats scared to show their pimply ( not sure if real word ) faces

this shit shouldnt reach 10 degrees

thats how i feel anyway ..

another case of the internet making a nobody a somebody

LostDjinn5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

To all of the above:

You realise that this is nothing more than an attempt by Anon to stop the backlash don't you?

They claim that every time they get crapped on by people on the net it actually helps their cause. You're hurting yourselves by hurting us is the message they're trying to convey here.

It's laughable. This is nothing more than a poor attempt at tryin' to silence the masses.

Edit: I think many of you are right in that the only way for the hate to dissipate is for Anon to STFU. Just thought I'd add that. ;)

Morbius4205173d ago

yeah $ony hates you that's why they let you play online for free...sheesh

Vherostar5172d ago

The main point is though they are split up so far across the world and dont even know who there own members are . They wouldn't know if they did this they are THAT un-organised.

SonyWarrior5172d ago

anonymous has no leaders there for there are no official messages... just because one member makes a video doesnt mean the rest will follow

BloodyNapkin5172d ago

For the people complaining they are tired of it, here is some simple logic.

Stop posting comments to the articles and do not click them to read them. You are complaining about the same thing you are doing.

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The Matrix5173d ago

Lol at 1:09 in the video. "We do not forgive, we do not forgive." Sounded so funny it was hard to take seriously.

HK65173d ago

Actually he said "We do not forgive; we do not forget."

The Matrix5172d ago

Sorry like I'm not human.

KingDustero5173d ago

I'm blaming Anonymous on this. Even if they didn't do it directly they for sure influenced someone too.

I don't really care since they've lost to Sony just like Geohot.

wiggles5173d ago

I am also blaming them for making my ears bleed with that horrible music, they thought would be a good idea to add in

JD_Shadow5173d ago

Because Sony would ALWAYS be transparent when it was their fault, right?

Jesus, I've owned and loved the PS3 and have been a Sony supporter for a LONG time, but I'm not THIS gullible!

If hackers are to blame, then we should blame them. At the same time, perhaps blame should rest on Sony for trying to tout their service and system as something it wasn't and then try to sweep shit under the rug and bitch all over when someone finds out about it...all while never doing anything ABOUT it besides screwing EVERYONE over!

Then again, with how many gullible people we have on THIS site, I'm not surprised the scapegoating is allowed to continue.

RememberThe3575173d ago

We're supposed to believe That out of the blue Sonys servers all died at once? Are you kidding me? It's sounds like you really are that gullible you just believe a bunch of lame ass hackers.

How is admitting that the PSN got broken into "sweeping shit under the rug"? That admits a flaw in the system; a flaw they're trying to correct. They hacked, shut down the network so they can find the issue and keep our personal information private, admit that they were hacked which makes them look back, and somehow their trying to screw us? Do you lack any logical reasoning?

I'm getting so tired of your made up bias bullshit. You come on N4G lie about shit and when people called you out or people don't believe you some how the members of THIS site are gullible. Your lying and you know it, there is no other way you could be full of so much false and twisted information.

darksied5173d ago

Agreed. I blame them and their circular, twisted logic as well.

I think it's funny, though, what he said about anonymous getting "stronger" the more people blame them for this (i.e. more people will change their views on anonymous). My thinking is more along these lines: gamers are hating them more and more and this is their damage control. If they are actually getting more support and sympathy, then they wouldn't post this video.

darksied5173d ago

@darkpower

Are you for real? Wow, no, I think you ARE that gullible.

I've said this a few times already, but here it is again ... how is Sony in ANY way responsible for this? Unless EVERYONE is lying and Sony disconnected their service to piss everyone off for the holiday weekend (completely unlikely), then we're going to assume hackers did something. How is that Sony's fault? If no one did anything to them, PSN would be up right now and people would be playing games. Who's fault is it?

"Tout their service and system as something it wasn't..." - What does that even mean? Everyone knows what the service, PSN and PSN+, is. Sweep under the rug? They were hacked, how is that in any way trying to hide what happened? If they were, then they wouldn't have said anything. Screwing everyone over? No, you said screwing EVERYONE over! What are you even talking about? Screwing everyone over would be if Sony said one day: eh, we're done, PSN is going down for good tomorrow. That would be screwing people over. What's happening now is not their fault.

Is it the computer generated voice? The crappy music? The weird backgrounds? What is it? Something in those videos obviously brainwashed you into thinking Sony is responsible for SOMEONE ELSE hacking their servers.

Soldierone5173d ago

Its their fault for this image anyways. If they didnt start the "Attacks" and cause such a big fuss to begin with they would never be connected with this. They have no one to blame but themselves even if it wasn't them.

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CryofSilence5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Haha. This is just sad, and their arrogant obliviousness is most unbecoming. There is zero chance I'll side with terrorists. Rational, mentally-developed people will think the same.

P.S. Anonymous is at fault for this, whether directly or indirectly.

squidyj5172d ago

I hear anonymous is also responsible for global warming aaand.... rape. Yes, all rape, for forever. Indirectly responsible is what I mean to say and you can't prove me wrong.

Either have the guts to say you think anonymous did it directly or shut the fuck up admitting you don't know what's going on. Saying they're indirectly responsible when you don't have a good goddamn clue what the fuck is going on just makes you look like a petulant child. You don't know if anonymous did anything you just want them to suffer because you hate them and you are incapable of controlling yourself.

CryofSilence5172d ago

@squidyj

o.O Quite an inflammatory response. You mad?

Unfortunately, you misunderstand. When I said indirectly, I was implying that Sony had to take down the PSN to implement new security measures due to the previous attack. It's now been confirmed, of course, that it was due to an external source. I believe I did say it was them in my post script, ne? So I do indeed have "the guts" to say it.

You criticize me of being childish and uncontrollable, but perhaps you should look at the maturity of your response and how overtly it attempts to attack me (like water off a duck's back, if we go by cliche statements). And the lack of proper grammar mechanics, limited vocabulary, and unfounded, sensational (and quite humorous) claims fitting of a drama queen don't really help you out much either. I wonder who really needs to control himself.

chriski3335173d ago

anonymous go play in traffic

Andronix5173d ago

They comment on all the people who criticise them on blogs and websites and say “We do not forgive, we do not forget." Which to me souNds like they hate free speech that is critical of them. There give a number of mixed messages. Before they said 'expect us'. Now they say "you should have expected us." which sounds like an admission of guilt. Yet they try to say they know the cause of the outage is actually Sony's incompetency. They know?

Before I thought maybe Sony had taken the GeoHotz thing too far. Now i have great sympathy for the company that is Sony. They are a business that provide a free online gaming service to the world, and some people want to spoil this.

They are not the friends of gamers.

evilmonkey5015173d ago

Sony already said the downtime is the result of a network attack. If it wasn't you annon, who the f@#k was it? Every other article either claims you DID do it or you didn't do it. Sony didn't attack their own network.I blame you annon and if I'm ever given the opportunity, I will return the favor. Congratulations on making at least 30 million enemies. Assholes. Your not even worth the toilet paper I wipe my hole with.
Your message is NOT heard.

squidyj5172d ago

The monkeys are so cute when they star flinging their feces.

lil Titan5173d ago

your stupid and i hate you.

DeadlyFire5173d ago

Die Anonymous. We don't give a fuck. We want our PSN.

We know its more likely that an attack was carried out against Sony than their servers just to all stop all of a sudden. How dumb do you think we are?

WharenPeace5173d ago

Given how Anonymous operates and the fact that their actions are generally "for the lulz", reasoning with them or ranting at them would only be a waste of time. The only recourse is to flag their videos on youtube as inappropriate i.e. promotes terrorism. The more gamers target their videos, the more our point goes through that "No! You are not doing it in our name".

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Kran5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Anonymous didn't do it.

It wasn't Sony's fault either.

It's those average hackers who wanted revenge. And they got it. Woohoo. ( /s ) What you gonna do next?

I got an idea to those hackers:

Get a life?

LOGICWINS5173d ago

I like how an N4G member whose commented 1,811 times and has two bubbles is telling others to get a life.

Kran5173d ago

Says the person whos commented 478 times in 2 months. My comments have been for nearly a year, so yeah. Look who's talking too.

MintBerryCrunch5173d ago

not only that, but a hackers forte/ or job is to hack...so basically it is his life

remember the days when people said gamers needed to get lives because all they did was play games

lol double standards on this site

LOGICWINS5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

True..but I use logic, by Charlie Sheen standards, I'm a winner.

..and the fact that you have two bubbles tells me that your contributions to the conversations on this site are of low quality.

"remember the days when people said gamers needed to get lives because all they did was play games

lol double standards on this site"

Another man of logic, bubbles.

Shang-Long5173d ago

478 in 2 months.. dang i only have 6 somthing in 3 years. im lagging lol

omi25p5173d ago

@logicwins, I like how your offtopic so i can bubble you down.

one topic, i dont think anon has hack psn because they are so arrogant if it was them who brought it down they would be singing it from the roof tops

nanometric5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Well, apparently, I have the most life then all of you ^_^

solidjun55172d ago

use logic?
when Aqua Man drowns and Human Torch starts swimming.
Please you're a known troll. And using your so-called logic, on your previous account, you commented like 4000 times and yet only had 2 bubbles. Yea...get a life.

LOGICWINS5172d ago (Edited 5172d ago )

“@Deadrecknoning666/LOGICWINS (same person)...I didn't know you were so emotionally invested in this.”

"...yeeeaa. I'M the one whose being childish lol”

"Yea, you always are deadreckoning666."

“Deadreckoning666 is back with a new account it seems. Logic (you lack this) wins sounds very much like him.

looked at his comment history: Yea. that's him.”

“ it's dead. Whatever he says won't suprise you after a month.

Sir, the person with no life is YOU. Even if I did know who this deadreckoning666 guy was...why are you so invested in letting people know that a member might possibly have another account?

Btw, stop PM'img me with ur angry rants. I though it was funny at first, now its just sad. I mean, commenting on a day old article? Do everyone a favor and get off my nuts dude.

solidjun55172d ago (Edited 5172d ago )

Please stop lying. You're the one who PM me. So just stop it. When did I ever initiate the PM. Show me. Matter of fact, show me with your new account LOGICWINS. Go ahead you liar. Show the world the angry rants to LOGICWINS. Go ahead...i'm waiting.

I however, can show the initiation of your PM under your old account. At least I can prove that. Change your name to LIARWINS. suits you well. I respond to crap from a well hypocritical troll when i see it. By the way, You have no nuts.

Even if you did know who he was? Really? Are you that much a loser to say that? Really dead? Not only you're liar, but you're delusional as well.

solidjun55172d ago

Yea I thought so. You can't. Liar

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phantomexe5173d ago

I haven't posted about this the hole time it's been down but it sounds to me like it's someone in anonymous acting alone. So really kran weather you say it's anonymous or not it's sounds like someone who is apart of it acting alone.

WharenPeace5173d ago

Let's consider Anon's theory for a second, i.e. that Sony took PSN down themselves as some sort of "retaliation" against Anonymous (regardless that gamers already hate Anon's guts):

Given that this is Easter weekend, one of the few long weekends this year, not to mention that a healthy number of games launched prior to it (portal 2, Socom 4, Mortal kombat etc.)it would be highly unlikely that Sony would attempt to damage its own reputation by "faking a hacker attack". In fact, it's implausible and downright an insult to our intelligence to insinuate this, but that is Anonymous for you. A group that has proven time after time that they are nothing but a bunch of politically irrelevant, immature and autocratic terrorists.

The only plausible explanation given Anon's grandstanding and their failed protest last week, is that they are ultimately behind PSN being down this weekend (and therefore I sincerely hope that law enforcement deals a heavy blow to these online criminals).

wiggles5173d ago

I agree with you saying that Anon is ultimately behind this.

Don't forget that Anon said that they can't control all of their members of the group. So even though they can deny that they did any of this, we still have to remember they said that the organization is a little choppy and sometimes people just act out on their own.

gamingdroid5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

I love how people would rather blame it on somebody.

You might ask yourself, is it possible that:

a) Sony just experienced a surge of users, and their servers couldn't keep up? They are still investigating to find out what is going on.

b) Some third party (other than Anonymous) is hacking PSN for their own profit? I mean, PSN do store your credit card information.

c) That Sony is in charge of securing their own servers from hackers and malicious users.

d) Even if individual members of Anonymous went out and did something of their own volition, doesn't make it Anonymous. That's like saying company xyz screwed people over, so it's employees must part of it.

Because you are an anonymous member (I'm not), doesn't mean you are a hacker or vice versa. Because you are a hacker, doesn't mean you do illegal activities or is malicious!

As a gamer, you are already subjected to stereotyping and people make swift (often without research) judgement about you. Don't do this to others, which makes you a bigger moron since you should have known better already being subjected to it!!!

Apocwhen5173d ago

N4G won't take kindly to your logic ;)

hay5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Well, first one is nonsense. Every self respected company that offers online services has someone reasonable and/or experienced(e.g. someone who at least once in their infrastructure career experienced solid service hickup and learned from past mistakes) who based on usage log can estimate that when major games with solid online are released, increase network usage.
I don't need to explain further that they just need to be prepared for that? I mean, Sony's infrastructure was "hit by a tsunami" in Japan and there was no downtime as I recall. Anon hit it with all they had and it was down like 30 minutes at time.

And didn't Sony said it was hacking attack?

gamingdroid5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

You mean how MS whom has decades of experiencing managing servers with their search engine, hotmail platform and even their own website hosting gazillion updates/applications had Xbox Live overloaded about 3 years ago?

I see it even less likely that Sony has that same competence in that area, because they are a hardware company.

Hiring top people doesn't mean you will get results. Grooming a team and creating a positive culture does!

If Xbox Live can go down, I see no reason why PSN can't!

hay5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

@gamingdroid: Forgot about Win95, ME, XP(early phases), Vista and RRoD? They did have some experience in those areas too. Did make OS' longer than providing online services and you can see how often they succeed.

gamingdroid5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

I'm not sure I follow you or what you are trying to say or hint at.

During it's respective times, all the OS releases was excellente except for Windows ME and Windows Vista.

In both cases, it was because people expected something else:

a) Windows ME was just 98, 2nd edition reworked. People had moved on to Windows 2000, which was far more stable and superior. In retrospect, ME was a pointless release.

b) Windows Vista was to resource hungry and people don't get the idea of intelligent maximizing resources instead of minimize. Case in point, Windows 7 was released with essentially the same core with minimal tweaks to wide acclaim. However, 7 years of computer speed moving forward (read 32x as fast assuming Moore's law hold) during Windows XP existence caused Windows Vista to feel like a slow slug.

However, their web design software MS Frontpage was atrocious and feel bad for those who used it.

No company is immune. Sony made PS1, yet they majorly screwed up on PS2 with the optical drive resulting in class action lawsuit by settling whereby they screwed over the customer with no extra warranty or refunds for past repair costs. You got a measly $30 max if you had the receipt.

Do you see any MP3 significance market in MP3 players by Sony? They were essentially the inventor of portable music with walkman.

Even the almighty Apple has screwed up multiple times.

Companies screws up isn't new....

ClimateKaren5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

"I love it how people would rather blame it on somebody"

Umm... Aren't every one of your propositions blaming somebody?

a) blames Sony for being incompetent.
b) blames some mysterious person who is causing trouuble, but who isn't "Anonymous"
c) citing Sony's potential incompetence again
d) blames members of "Anonymous", but says that you shouldn't blame the whole group.

You're accusing other people of placing blame on Anonymous, but you're just placing it on everyone but them. The difference is, there are plenty of reasons that support Anonymous or some of its members of being the cause of this situation, as opposed to your reasons which are pulled out of thin air with nothing to support them, purely for the sake of argument.

The bottom line is even if it is some rogue members of Anonymous, the responsibility lands on them as an organization for corralling this group and working them into a froth. See, the analogy you used in d) doesn't properly apply to this situation, because unlike individuals in a corporation who screw some people over, the corporation doesn't publicly advocate screwing people and then reprimand employees when a few members of their organization ACTUALLY go through with it. That's what Anonymous is doing. While they're claiming not to be directly responsible, they're still slinging shit, toting the party line, and making threats to cheesy music. They haven't stopped actively encouraging the cyber-terrorist behavior at all. Even if the main decision-makers at Anonymous didn't directly arrange for this attack, they certainly are responsible for it. And the way it sounds, they seem perfectly happy to be.

gamingdroid5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

I'm not blaming anyone! That is figment of your imagination.

I'm simply telling people that there are multiple explanations and not point the fingers until one really knows what happened. Never once did I say, this is what happened.

But ultimately regardless of what happened, Sony is responsible for their network!

So I suggest you re-read my message with an open and objective mind. If you came to the same conclusion, take a break and repeat the process.

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SilverSlug5173d ago

Not only that, how the hell does Anon know they took the servers down themselves?

ClimateKaren5173d ago

Because they are propaganda pushers themselves. Ironic, considering how they're championing this fight against the evil corporation and their subtle manipulative attacks on human consciousness, yet every one of their videos seems to play like an cheesy rendition of big brother controlling the masses. The only thing that reeks worse than the bullshit they spew is the hypocrisy that it's all soaked in.

squidyj5172d ago

Internet Hate Machine
Hackers on Steroids

The only thing I'll say is that here and elsewhere it doesn't exactly seem to be Sony's reputation that is being damaged. In fact they seem to be benefitting quite healthily from the events in terms of public opinion, all in spite of the downtime.

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Metfanant5173d ago

wishing the would shut up now...

Anonymous #notwinning

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor38d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7238d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7238d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7237d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr38d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation38d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde38d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50138d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer36d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6938d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave38d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit38d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno38d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit38d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay38d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv7238d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos38d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania38d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox38d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj38d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted38d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit38d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow138d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania38d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox38d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning7738d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts38d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango38d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning7738d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts38d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit37d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning7738d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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PS5 shipments top 77.8 million

PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.

italiangamer39d ago

Perfectly in line to reach 100 million by March 2026.

Profchaos38d ago

Theys have to clear 22.2 million to do this.
When you average out the current number over 5 years it's unlikely.

If the console was going down in price it would be possible but they have not been able to reduce the cost in fact it's gone up so this is working against them.

gta Vi has also been pushed out of the financial year and there's likely millions of GTA v players still on ps5 that have not made the jump those players would for GTA vi

The overall poor market conditions and uncertainty doesn't fill me with confidence trade war, weak yen and the ongoing cost of living crisis. We're not talking core gamers picking up a new system were talking gamers who wait for the back 9 to enter a new generation.

I think 2027 they will but 100 not this year.

italiangamer38d ago

They will reach 100 million during 2026.

S2Killinit38d ago

It might actually get a boost considering that even the PS5 PRO is currently cheaper than the series x. This will of course be over soon as Im expecting a price hike for the PRO.

Travesty38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I know Sony said they are considering raising prices.. Well as of yesterday China and the US lifted their tariffs standoff. At least for 90 days until they can agree on a trade deal that would benefit both parties. So with manufacturing in China and shipping them to the US I’m hoping it will not affect the prices.

Although I kind of doubt Sony will top 100 million since GTA 6 will be releasing next year by March. Could be wrong and I’ll be glad to be.

Xbox shooting itself in the foot or more like nailing their own coffin with rising prices. Hopefully Sony will stay put.. Ghost of Yotei is releasing for $70 still so that’s a god sign hopefully.

senorfartcushion38d ago

Is this a good thing for someone with no shares in Sony stock?

italiangamer38d ago

More PS5 on the market = higher chance of getting even more games.
It's not rocket science.

gold_drake38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

very nice.
in almost 5 years too.
some big hitters are yet to come

badz14938d ago (Edited 38d ago )

come on...don't say that! that slogan "Greatness Awaits" is haunting me everytime someone says this and yeah...1st party output has not been a highlight this gen which is a huge bummer! personally, I would rate their 1st party output this gen 4/10!

gold_drake38d ago

to be honest, when i typed it out, it did sound like a slogan for that ha