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Launch Day DLC – When its ok and When it isn’t.

Like it or not, Day 1 DLC is in a lot of our favorite games, whether it be the fresh out of the oven Portal 2, or the ever so popular Killzone 3 and Little Big Planet, DLC released on the first day is a reality, but is it ok?

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DeathProof4746d ago

Very cool article man. Valve did it right this time..even with their DLC!

qface644746d ago

ANY day 1 DLC that you have to pay for is terrible Period

blumatt4745d ago

That's exactly what I was gonna say. Any day 1 DLC should be free, no matter what! There should not be any paid-for map packs, etc. within the first month or so. Free DLC is fine with me, but not paid dlc.

HenryFord4745d ago

Why? Why should day1 DLC be free? Where is the logic behind that?
You do not have to buy into this stuff - know what you can do? Just not click the shop-button for instance. Why do you even care?

If the DLC adds nothing to the gameplay experience, no new maps, guns or whatever - then why should you care about? Just leave it if you do not want it.

blumatt4745d ago

Because it's just the principal of the idea of releasing something for a price on the day you bought the game, that could've easily been put ON THE DISC! It's a slap in the face to us gamers. On games like KZ3 or CoD, I don't want to see any map packs within the first whole month. If it's out by then, my thought is that they left it off the disc just to sell it to us later and make more money.

qface644744d ago (Edited 4744d ago )

if they had the time to make and finish the content BEFORE the game is finished why not put it on the game to begin with?

anyone who is ok paying for something that was deliberately held from the game just so they can charge for it is somewhat stupid

DLC was made to extend the vitality and interest in a game no matter how small it is having DLC that you have to pay for on the same day the game is launched is a terrible joke

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saladthieves4745d ago

Totally agree with one of his points. When you purchase some DLC only to find out that it is a mere KB worth of content. It kind of pisses me off as it makes me feel like I just payed twice for the content.

What's worse is that some developers purposely do this just for the sake of money. A good example is Dead Space 2 for the PC. EA had said that none of the DLC was coming out for the PC. An edited game save file (of a few KBs) showed that the DLC that had to be downloaded on the console versions was already on the PC version on the disc, ready to be used but blocked for some reason!

Why would they include it on the disc in the first place, if they weren't going to even sell it as DLC?

Nitrowolf24746d ago

Yeah if it's like costumes or stuff that isn't really needed to add better gameplay, then i guess it's oky.

But if its like new map packs, levels, weapons, ect, then i think it should at least be free if they plan a day one release. I look at Killzone 3 and i feel that the dlc really killed this game off super quickly. Got both DLC free but when i play the latest one its usually 1vs1-2. I rarely got into into matches that were full on junkyard and once in stalh arms. It might be because of the patch issues idk.

anyway yeah i feel that Guerrilla games killed or split up the community far to quickly with there dlc

-Alpha4746d ago (Edited 4746d ago )

What truly screwed it up was that they failed to deal with the issues of map rotation which are still persistent.

The DLC, party limits (you can't join DLC maps if your friends don't have it), and the bugs killed the community. I'm also really mad they removed lobbies/servers.

Day one DLC for maps, weapons and all that BS really does suck, and I agree Killzone suffered from that problem, but they honestly could have made it better if they fixed the damn issue. It's honestly getting worse.

Withheld content
Cosmetic content like skins
Timed DLC/boosters for a day
Exclusive maps
Store-specific DLC
DLC for the campaign

It's ridiculous and getting way out of hand. Bad Company 2, SOCOM, Killzone, Crysis, etc. It's such a hassle for consumers to just sit down and play a properly released game without any strings attached anymore

Ducky4745d ago (Edited 4745d ago )

I kinda like the cosmetic-only DLC like BadCompany2 and KillingFloor (among others)

To me, it's a way of rewarding/supporting devs who's game you enjoy.

Edit: @mandf below
If you buy the KZ3 DLC, does it download something? O.o
2gigs seems like plenty of room for maps.

mandf4745d ago (Edited 4745d ago )

Killzone3 shipped using 43 gigs of data on a 45gig disc. It just didn't fit. Killzone also gave you 2 ways of getting it free pre ordering or ps+. The problem is developers are scared people are going to beat the game then trade it immediately thus losing out on dlc sales. I hate dlc that is on the disc and you got to pay to unlock it. That's the worst.

Horny Melon4745d ago

This is why I don't buy games until all the DLC is on the disc usually GotY editions. If there is no GotY edition I don't buy it.

Pandamobile4746d ago

What DLC? All there is is a bunch of cosmetic items.

jidery4746d ago (Edited 4746d ago )

Looks like someone didn't read the article.

Pandamobile4746d ago (Edited 4746d ago )

Nope. Assumed it was just about Portal 2 like all the other stuff today.

DeathProof4746d ago

Wow, someone on N4G didn't read the article but still made a comment, that almost never happens. Lol. At least he admitted it : )

Kon4745d ago

Launch day or not, DLC sucks.

user8586214745d ago

Lost and damned
Balled of gay tony
Undead Nightmares

... says otherwise

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Yoko Taro Passes Respect; Says Stellar Blade Is "Much Better" Than Nier: Automata

Stellar Blade's creative director, Hyung Tae Kim, has also claimed that the game is deeply inspired by Nier: Automata.

shadowhaxor8h ago

I feel like Yoko is downgrading Automata because he has expressed multiple times he'd like to revisit the universe, but Squenix hasn't been keen about it. We know he loves 2B and would love to take her out for another spin, so maybe this is how he gets the company to think about it.

gold_drake7h ago

u do realise that Square made Nier a franchise after Automata right?

Taro is downplaying it cause hes not a snob like most of the directors that think their games are gods gifts to the human race.

he said the same thing when being interviewed during the development of Automata too, that he couldnt have done it without the devs.

hes just a humble guy rly.

shadowhaxor6h ago

I mean, Neir existed before Automata with both OG Niers and Drakenguard. I don't count NieR Replicant, since it's a remake of the OG games. Sure, we have Reincarnation, which is still stuck on mobile devices (quite a damned shame). I just remember Taro saying he'd love to revisit Automata if Square Enix lets him. I do recall there was supposed to be a sequel to Automata, but it wasn't confirmed and I'd imagine it was just for Reincarnation.

Enjoy Taro, he seems like a cool guy, who loves the ladies and is humble. But damn, don't put down one of your masterpieces.

Cacabunga1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I really liked Automata and cannot wait for Stellar Blade

isarai2h ago

I get he's giving them some credit, but i strongly disagree based on the demo. I honestly don't think any aspect of it feels good, it's not bad, it's just kinda ok but definitely a little jank. Also the souls like formula it is adopting does not help it imo. I was looking forward to this for years, now im just kinda let down honestly 🫤

H91h ago

Man exputer can you stop putting words like that after someone's name, i read Yoko Taro Passes and just went blank

Snookies121h ago

Same... Awful way to word that title's beginning.

Hereandthere1h ago

Thats because Sony had a heavy hand in funding and developing this game.

purple10147m ago

They sent in XDEV one of their traveling support studios to Korea to lend a hand if I’m not mistaken, Sony pulled out the big guns to help this studio

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The full version of "Survival: Fountain of Youth" is coming to PC on May 21st, 2024

"The Paris-based (France) indie games publisher Twin Sails Interactive (the publisher of “Gloomhaven” and “Ember Knights”) and L.A.-based (the US) indie games developer Odinsoft, are today very glad and proud to announce that the full version (v1.0) of their single-player survival game “Survival: Fountain of Youth” (which is set in the 16th-century Caribbean islands), is coming to PC via Steam and EGS on May 21st, 2024." - Jonas Ek, TGG.

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Max Mustard Review - Duuro

Duuro says: "Max Mustard proves that taking classic platformer fundamentals and crafting memorable VR mechanics on top makes for an incredibly fun experience."