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Playstation 4 Is Ready And Waiting: Playstation 3 Has To Run Its Course

Sony remained firm on their position: the PS3 is here for the long haul – 10 years. Again, gamers might not be receiving any new PlayStation hardware for the living room, but we know Sony is already hard at work evaluating and making prototypes for the PS4.

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Mohdunknown4758d ago

the ps3 has not run its course imo. The system's best games are on the horizon.

Wanna bet? Give the ps3 a price drop and see how many people will flock to buy it at.

xc7x4758d ago

i agree,system still has a lot of life in it,lot of game franchise can be dropped onto it.

evrfighter4758d ago (Edited 4758d ago )

why would you want the ps3 for a few more years?

are you a masochist?

help me understand. What do you lose by having a new console that could easily be doing 1080p high fps with AA, besides your entire ps3 downloadable library? jk jk

what do you gain by holding on to an ancient piece of tech?

why aren't you fools demanding it? Is this fanboyism in its true form?

tdrules4758d ago

"What do you lose by having a new console that could easily be doing 1080p high fps with AA, besides your entire ps3 downloadable library?"

FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE DORRARS

(providing the PS4 won't be even more than that at launch)

jessupj4758d ago

Of course we wouldn't say no to better graphics and physics in our games, but to be honest I'm very content with the games coming out now. I have a large backlog and there's still so many awesome games coming out this year.

However, I could very much understand if a lot of 360 fans would want a new console.

malamdra4758d ago

this year there's 20+ PS3 exclusives coming out plus some great multiplats

after this year there's going to be one more round for the big studios this generation, most likely in 2013

and after that comes the new generation: 2014

DeadlyFire4758d ago

Lots of life yes. Past 10 years maybe even. PS4 will be out well before 2014.

With new NES generation coming out. Its undoubtedly put the time clock on the table. You will see new console from both Microsoft and Sony within 2 years. E3 2012 is last day to show what you got or leave the table.

specialguest4758d ago

What?!? Haven't you heard? 720p is the "sweet spot". Why would anyone want to leave the sweet spot?

Lawliet4758d ago (Edited 4758d ago )

I'll bet a MILLION! The PS4 will not even need to make its appearance next generation. And even if it does it would most likely be about 2years late to the market, thus creating its own time stamp of its generation different from the rest.

Unless both Microsoft and Nintendo aim for equality to the PS3's power & quality. Just think about this, if somehow Microsoft and Nintendo is to release a new console to the market, whether are they aiming quantity for their new console? They will have to start off from ground building new game libraries. They can however make that console backwards compatible and still maintain with their old libraries, but what would be the point of it? The specific titles exclusives or not would still count as that FEW ones. The ratio would be [PS3]1000000:1[next-gen console].

And if they are to aim for something that surpass the PS3 by miles, the thing consumer hate most would be the cost. No way in hell will any of this next-gen cost as much as or lesser than the PS3 or just slightly different in price. No matter how they want to cut the price, PS3 will roll like pizza.

This can change only if the PS3 sold maybe 25million unit and Sony decided to stop support for PS3 and do the chicken run. But now the momentum ain't stopping down!

MysticStrummer4758d ago

@evrfighter - I'm still happy with the games I'm getting on my system. If you aren't happy with yours perhaps you bought the wrong one. If you're a PC gamer, that won't make sense to you of course, but I used to be a PC gamer and will never go back.

R8344758d ago

@evrfighter
Because nobody wants to pay £500 for a brand new console when the PS3 hasn't, as the article says, run its course.

ProjectVulcan4758d ago

PS3 is by no means finished, not now, not this year, not even in 12 months from now. It'll still be around in two years producing quality titles for those who own the machine.

However.

If Microsoft launch the end of next year, and Nintendo launch mid 2012 too, then you will all almost certainly be asking for the next playstation. This is how it always works. Once the competition have shown their hand then it is only natural for the questions to be raised about a new playstation.

When you see what the next generation could do, your eyes will be opened, and you will be demanding to see PS4. Microsoft must not be allowed such a lead again and so much negative press to build for a new playstation, i am sure sony know this. They will not hang about, next time round.

pixelsword4758d ago (Edited 4758d ago )

@ evrfighter:

"help me understand. What do you lose by having a new console that could easily be doing 1080p high fps with AA, besides your entire ps3 downloadable library?"

That's the whole point: The PS3 can already--and easily-- be doing 1080p high fps with AA. Wight Lair, Factor 5 already proved that it was possible in 2007; and in four years no other company, not Konami, not Santa Monica, not insomniac, Not Rockstar, not SuckerPunch, Crytek, Evolution, Valve, Epic, Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games, Capcom, Zipper, nor Ninja Theory have reached such stats within their games four years later.

If people dig into the PS3, there's probably a whole library's worthy of new code to be invented.

gamingdroid4758d ago

A new console released now at $400 will smoke any other console out there today in performance.

Since PS3 was released, computing power should have increased at least tenfold (a whole magnitude)! Since the Xbox 360 release it should have been around 15 times.

Imagine what you could do with that? You could actually now have FULL 720p (not the half assed resolution devs often make games that are supposed to be 720p) standard on every game easily!

This will make a huge jump in graphics....

TheLastGuardian4758d ago

Sony said 10 years. I believe the PS3 will still be sold until 2016. The PS3 will have great games coming out for it until around 2014 when the PS4 arrives.

You know Ninty and M$'s next consoles will cost more than the PS3 in 2012-2016 and I believe the PS3 will always have a better line-up of games. Move adds so much value and potential to the console.

Sony could come into next gen 2-3 years after the big N and M$ and the PS4 would blow those old consoles away and not have any competitors in the PS4's own generation 8.5 but until then the PS3 will be way more affordable than Wii 2 or Xbox 720.

RememberThe3574757d ago

I totally agree with you, mostly. But Sony doesn't just want a console that will be great now. They want a console that will be great for years. The PS3 has been great for year because it was so powerful when it came out. I think waiting a little longer for both Sony and MS is best cuz when their system finally drop they will be that much more powerful.

N4g_null4757d ago

Wow ev. I'm with you. I think these guys did not like the sticker shock. Then they all believe some magic code will unlock the power of the ps3.

Yet for some reason ms and nintendo could never make a more powerful system even though we have tech that is 20x better out on pcs.

The biggest problem is better game are being made now and they don't work too well on the ps3, ps4 or not Sony does not want to get out shined by new tech. It was fine when they had third parties eating out of their hands but having 3 hd ports is going to help sells a lot.

Third parties so far are Ms ace in the hole lots of gamers are not excited about ps3 exclusives just look at the sales after the release and peoples remarks.

This is not the time for Sony to circle it's wagons. They need 3rd parties and they know it. 4.1 is the future baby!

gamingdroid4757d ago

"But Sony doesn't just want a console that will be great now. They want a console that will be great for years."

That's the thing, technology isn't an investment. It's a commodity that get's used, quickly gets obsolete and frequently replaced. I don't to pay early adopters fee, but rather just frequently upgrade at a lower cost. On average, I will get better technology for less cost.

Reality is that Nintendo's business model is probably the best for both businesses and consumers.

MaxXAttaxX4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

From PS1 to PS2 and from PS2 to PS3, we have seen huge leaps.
The gap is not large enough yet. I don't wanna settle with current PC tech. I'd like to wait a couple of years and see some new advances.

Maybe in a couple of years at least. But NOT "right now". It'd feel too rushed.
Besides, think of the pricing.

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ct034758d ago

People also buy PS2 consoles still. Doesn't mean *I* would want one at this point in time.

RioKing4758d ago

Yeah, people in Honduras and Libya.

MysticStrummer4758d ago

@Rio - PS2 still nearly outsells the 360 in Japan.

YourCall4758d ago

Let's say hypothetically that PS3 runs another 4 years, would that not make the PS4 (ready and waiting) a bit obselete when it released 4 years later.

At the rate that technology moves with new things surfacing everyday, how can you make something today an shelve for 4 years and expect it to be state of the art when released.

Just curious how one could consider doing this.

If they continued to modify it each years, this it wouldn't be "ready and waiting".

RememberThe3574757d ago

I think your reading it wrong. Sony is still working on the PS4 it will keep improving as the tech improves. They're not making a system then shelving it then releasing it because as you say it would already be obsolete. When they said "shelved" a while back they most likely meant the plans for a more recent launch were shelved as they had probably gotten word of Nintendos new console and wanted to see how that went first.

But I don't think its right to think that Sony has/will made a new console shelve(d) it and then release it when it's old tech.

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milohighclub4758d ago

Lol people ain't even reading the title right, it say it has to run its course not that it has already run its course. Anyway I reckon this e3. If not def by the next.

Morbius4204757d ago

Why would Microsoft need to use Blu-Ray? They could put games on HD DVD and not pay Sony a cent. As for movies you can buy a Blu-Ray player for a little over $200. You'd be crazy to play movies off a console's drive anyway.

smackasauraus4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

There are $80 and $90 Bluray players now. In a couple of years they should be decent $30 and $40 blu-ray players.

demonddel4758d ago

you right i can sure use a blu ray player with my new tv

GarandShooter4758d ago

Yeah, I think the next XBox will use Bluray too.

RankFTW4758d ago

MS have to use Blu-Ray in the neXtBox or it will fail.

killershadow1174758d ago

The PS3 and the Xbox still have a long way to go, but to have a console ready right now? That just seems like it will be a little bit behind the other consoles if it is already built with parts from now. That's just my opinion though.

MysticStrummer4758d ago

It's not ready right now. Just the standard N4G misleading title. It says they're evaluating prototypes. That's a long way from a final product.

killershadow1174758d ago

I see, thanks for clearing that up. Usually I read the article but the title here seemed pretty self explanatory.

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saladthieves4757d ago

The title is a bit misleading (and this is going to receive so many hits) because it sounds as if Sony has already finished developing the PS4, and all they're doing is waiting for the PS3 to run its course.

BeckyLikesChocolate4757d ago

@Mohdunknown

agreed. no need to move this fast. these people are crazy. here's a solution for them: buy a pc. it's always next-gen

Shackdaddy8364757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

I'm ready for next gen and I really don't care who disagrees. Can't wait for photoreal graphics and games such as KZ4, Uncharted 4, Crysis 3, and such. CANT WAIT!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Ravage274757d ago

the PS3 still have not reached the $200 price point yet, this gen is far from over

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xc7x4758d ago

what kind of article was that lol. anyways Sony will announce a PS4 [or whatever they call it = NGC haha] before PS3 finishes it's 10 year cycle like they did last gen,because Sony keeps supporting / selling their products more than other game system manufactures do usually. there's no way they'll wait until 2014 / 2015 to announce their next one to arrive the following year or two. not going to happen.

CaptainPunch4758d ago

"Playstation 3 Has To Run Its Course" Yeah my ass lol

mushroomwig4758d ago

Run it's course already? Higly doubtful, if the PS2 can still sell after 10 years then there's no reason the PS3 can't.

Run it's course? Far from it guys.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 4h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken14h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing23h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola20h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66923h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle22h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 16h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 15h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 11h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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