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IGN: SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs Review

IGN: "Fans have been waiting years for SOCOM 4 and now that it's finally here they expect a lot from the first party shooter. With a complete campaign and the promise of multiplayer poised to appease old and new fans alike, SOCOM 4 sounds sweet. It is a good game, though it just never becomes a great one.

SOCOM has always been one of the more polarizing franchises. Some people just can’t get into it, and that's fine. The multiplayer for SOCOM 4 is solid, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I wish there were more game modes and maps to make my purchase feel worthwhile. The story mode has interesting squad command gameplay, though I found myself enjoying the co-op missions more because I could actually yell at my sniper to kill the dude with a rocket launcher. If the single player were longer, and the story was worth following there'd be a great game here, instead of just the good one that might get ignored."

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callahan094760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

That's all they have to say about it? Took me 45 seconds to read that review!! Sounds like the game is pretty good, though. Fun campaign and fun multiplayer modes = fun game? Hmm... Sometimes I feel like game critics just criticize games because they feel like it and other times just decide to give a game a free pass on all its flaws. You could easily nit-pick just about any game that's come out in the past 5 years and come up with similar reasons to give it a 7 out of 10 if you wanted to. Therefore, the numerical score is worthless to me, I just read the text and decide if their criticisms sound like deal-breakers to me and if the things they liked sound like things I'd like, and in the case of this game, the game sounds pretty darn good to me. I'll pick it up.

-Alpha4760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

Yeah this is real short, it doesn't change the final score/opinion of the reviewer but it reads more like a description than a review which is annoying. Seems rushed, actually, and somewhat unprofessional with the generic "X was awesome" and "I shot this dude with weapon Y" language.

Abash4760d ago

I had a blast in the beta, they themselves said the online is fun. So Im definitely still buying this day one

PlayerX4760d ago

I wish all this sony hate by the media would just stop. They can't stop sony anymore. 9.5 out of 10 for me.

despair4760d ago

Its Jack Devries, just check any of his reviews you will see a pattern, one of the worst reviewers I've seen on any site(I've said it before I believe).

King_many_layers4759d ago

I don't understand why myself and other people keep coming back to see what this site actually writes up anymore.
Seriously ?? A one page review, for something we need informing about, whilst Call of Duty Black ops had a 3 page review despite ourselves already knowing almost exactly what the game would be like.

they've become a complete joke. Their reviews are much less informative and fact orientated than their previews.

I really dislike the way also that something as crucial as a whole other way of controlling the game is talked about in a brief paragraph.
I can understand the complaints they had with the game and I'm way past caring about the scores that this site actually gives out.

I wish this site wasn't so highly reveered because as far as myself and many others are concerned it's become an overly opinionated, over-hyping and a completely unbalanced waste of time.

(I'm not bitter over the score, I really disliked the beta)

Active Reload4759d ago

Wow, I didn't know this game looked that good. I thought it was going to be like the previous game so I never really bothered to pay attention.

Kleptic4759d ago

I only put about 30 minutes in the beta...but it played fine...was kind of fun...and seems to have some legs as far as shooters go (plenty of crap to unlock, etc.)...

but the main thing I noticed is that Socom is simply torn up as a franchise...I didn't get into the original Socom games on the PS2...I came into the beta as more of a first person shooter fan overall...but understand zipper needed to keep the route tactics of the originals to keep fans happy...but at the same time, its obvious they made changes to fill the gap where other modern shooters have gone...

and it just mixed me up...the third person aspect is nearly pointless, but still needed i guess...you can pop in and out of a first person view with most weapons and it takes an extra button press...you also can't switch your should view, making use of cover (when not using the cover option button press) very awkward sometimes...

it played like a bigger and faster version of R6 Vegas imo...that looks immensely better...and if they kept it first person, it probably wouldn't do enough differently than other shooters to really be relavent...oh well, its far from bad, but not exactly something I could really get into in such a crowded genre...

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Blaze9294760d ago

you uncovered IGN's secret behind the site design and bigger font. It's so their lazy asses can get away with shorter BS reviews like this one.

I wish people would stop going there

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MidnytRain4759d ago

Exactly, just what I would've said. In fact, I should consider copying and pasting your comment. :)

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IheartGames4760d ago

sad i love socom..just seems like it copy alil too much from COD us vets well maybe socom 2 hd

-Alpha4760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

The more and more I read about SOCOM II the more I like it. Sounds like it had a lot of great features.

While I liked S4's beta I feel like S2 sounds so much better: 22 maps, lobbies, recoil, the modes sound a lot better too. Hopefully a remake happens, the game sounds very unique.

@below

Yeah, the scores are going to be in the 7s and I think it reflects the attitude of the core community. They are just not happy with what was removed and it's understandable to see why they are pissed. SOCOM II sounds like it was ahead of today's MP games, it's disappointing to see developers try and chase COD all the time.

RememberThe3574760d ago

I agree. PS2 games had had a lot of content though compared to now days. I think thats why people are pissed; they wanted Socom at it's best and Zipper didn't deliver. Its' too bad really. Hopefully it has the charm that MAG had that kept me coming back. MAG isn't a good game at all but it is fun as hell, hopefully Socom 4 is the same.

Rainstorm814760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

SOCOM 2 definately was the high point in the franchise, As far as S4 goes it has its issues but its a solid game, i personally dont think its over an 8.0 although still a fun game, but im not a fan of camping and in S4 theres alot of it.

My thoughts from the beta at least, i cant wait for some sharpshooter co-op and SP

Headquarters114760d ago

Even though I never played the past Socoms, Confrontation plays better than S4 in my opinion.

I don't see myself enjoying this game as much, especially with the slow strafe speeds and stupid cover system in Classic mode.

BattleAxe4760d ago

Man, Socom 2 was one of a kind. The map designs were genius, and I haven't seen many games that have been able to create map designs to that level of genius not only from last generation, but this generation too. Also the player movement was a key part to all the PS2 Socom games. It was free wheeling movement which made for some epic one on one gunfights.

Personally I'm glad that Socom 4 has been getting nailed in most of the reviews that have come out, mainly because they chose to ignore the community that helped make Socom successful, and instead they decided to try to be like every other game out there so that they could lure in the CoD casual gamers.

They could redeem themselves if they would make Socom 2 HD or even HD remasters of all four PS2 Socoms with trophy support on one Blu-Ray disc, and then come out gradually with all the old maps and have them integrated into the PSN. Its such an easy business decision, and I'm certain that it would easily outsell Socom: Confrontation and Socom 4 combined. The old Socoms were just magic, its the only way to describe them.

BlueRevolvuR4760d ago

I agree. I never got to play Socom 2 before, but I know many that did, and praise it so much. Many of those Socom players played Warhawk, which is how I came to meet them. I would love a Socom 2 HD remake. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

RBdrift4760d ago

S4 is ok but its far from a real Socom game. I'm one of those vets thats played Socom since day 1 and Socom 2 has been the best game in the whole series.
If you have a PSN account sign in and vote for a Socom2 HD remake.

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bennyace4760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

I have to agree with the poeple in this tread saying socom 2 was the best. I don't want to get anybody angry or anything but, from what I've seen so far from socom 4, confrontation had a more ''socom feel'' even if it was broken. It didn't feel like a 3rd person CoD or BF wanna be, like socom 4 seems to be.

I haven't played it yet. But from the in game movies with the cover system and regenerating health... It's an elimination game where you're not supposed to get shot. Not a game where you get shot and then hide to regenerate. That's not what socom is about to me... I have to agree also that it's a small game with less than half the maps socom 2 had, with all the room available on blu-ray, 50Go vs 4.7Go.... C'mon really?

Yeah! Bring Socom 2 HD anyday!

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chidori6664760d ago

You guys at Zipper know this isn't a REAL Socom title. But you're too afraid to say it because you know if this game was called anything else but "Socom" it would flop.

Headquarters114760d ago

Never expected this to get good scores. so 7/10 is an awesome score to me.

RonXD4760d ago

Another Average score eh....Well it's an average game. Doesn't feel at all like Socom.

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Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises

Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "Gaming’s past is full of wonderful memories, many of which include some of our favorite moments in all of video games and helped shape our current gaming habits. And, thanks to the awesomeness that is the PlayStation, many of these memories can be found in Sony’s franchises. But what happens when a great franchise or IP just disappears? While sometimes its just forgotten, never to be heard from again that’s not something that we here at Link-Cable can bear the thought of. So for this week’s Top 10 we are taking a look at the Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises and also crossing our fingers that someone with the power to bring these back just happens to stumble across this list."

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PhoenixUp2261d ago

Don’t forget Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, Legend of Dragoon, Freedom Wars, Invisimals, Lemmings, Modnation Racers, Pursuit Force, Resistance, Siren, Soul Sacrifice, Mark of Kri, & Wild Arms

darthv722261d ago

To be fair, many of those are not forgotten. They just ran their course while others were not given the respect they deserved to garner a continuation. Games that are one-offs probably had no intention of making them into series but I do wish they would rethink that. Some deserve to be given a follow-up.

UltraNova2261d ago

Agreed. Maybe Sony can contract Bluepoint to remaster Heavenly Sword, see people's reaction to the game and decide wether to give the go for a sequel.

Also Lair can be remastered es as a PSVR game and take it from there.

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Michiel19892261d ago (Edited 2261d ago )

Legacy of Kain would fit right in there, although sony has no rights to that IP as far as I'm aware.

Ah later instalments were not sony exclusive, so dont mind me sir :p

Xenophon_York2261d ago

Remaking the very first Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen would be amazing.

MWH2261d ago (Edited 2261d ago )

Maybe one day the coin will land on its edge.

Michiel19892261d ago

I'd prefer Soul Reaver but Blood Omen would do just fine as well

Godmars2902261d ago

To be fair, Wild Arms did run its course, was effectively run into the ground, going by example of last entry using characters from all games. Being an STG title on the PSP.

Could always revive the western/steampunk setting.

_-EDMIX-_2260d ago

I know right! I'm still waiting for someone at Sony to make the Getaway 3 lol

I always wondered what the PlayStation 3 version was going to be like.

SuperSonic912260d ago

CTR Remake please. Best kart racer ever made by Naughty Dog

Rangerman12082260d ago

Finally someone mentioned Soul Sacrifice, Siren, Legend of Dragoon, and Freedom Wars. Those games are in desperate of a new installment. Especially with Folkore.

Sitdown2260d ago

Lemmings is a PlayStation franchise? I would say Battle Arena Toshinden.

frostypants2260d ago

Lemmings was a franchise waaaaay before even the PS1 saw the light of day. Nobody's forgotten it.

thisismyaccount2260d ago

and ALUNDRA .. dunno if it´s a Sony IP or not.

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GBG_Jason2261d ago

I'm not sure single games would be considered franchises. If you want to say Heavenly Sword is one, I'd also put Enslaved on the list. Loco Roco is in the same boat as Patapon. But things like Tomba are certainly missed.

GBG_Jason2261d ago

Never mind me, you are absolutely correct.

Kleptic2261d ago

yeah, it was the Ninja Theory (same dev as HS), just not a ps3 exclusive

Michiel19892261d ago

It was a good game though, I wouldnt mind seeing a sequel at some point

Yui_Suzumiya2261d ago

There was going to be a sequel to Enslaved. Unfortunately it never left the drawing board. Hopefully someday it will be realized.

jznrpg2261d ago

Enslaved was super undervalued, loved that game

UltraNova2260d ago

....and in dire need of a Remaster!

FallenAngel19842261d ago

How can you all something a franchise if it only has one installment?

At that point it’s just an IP. You can only call it a franchise when there’s multiple installments.

SamPao2261d ago

you should look up the definition of a franchise.
If there is more than just a game, say merchandise its already a franchise.

_-EDMIX-_2260d ago

I understand what the Fallen is trying to say, simply saying how could you suggest a game with only one installment as a franchise in regards to a series in terms of multiple games.

Even though, yes franchise can be considered what you stated in this context that's not really what's being talked about.

SamPao2260d ago

yet still its what he was talking about. Maybe nexttime you should say "series"...

SurgicalMenace2261d ago

Legend of Dragoon? Sly Cooper?

Araragifeels 2261d ago

Sly Cooper is not forgotten. They even making a TV show, I am hoping they Remake the first 3 games from scratch like Ratchet & Clank did.

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Araragifeels 2261d ago

@DJK1NG_Gaming I didn't mention the movie because probably got cancelled since Ratchet & Clank movie flop and Sony might not take another chance but Sly Cooper is having it own TV series.

FallenAngel19842261d ago

Sly Cooper is getting a television series. Sony hasn’t forgotten about it

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Games to Play if You Miss SOCOM

Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
new SOCOM game.

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LOOK_AT_THIS_I2437d ago

Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.

With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.

ONESHOTV22437d ago

the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC

USMC_POLICE2437d ago

You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour

Majin-vegeta2437d ago

Army training grounds its F2P.

ion6662437d ago

Insurgency Socom mod perfect adaption. Play it

C-H-E-F2437d ago

RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.

Also, in response to @lookatthisi

They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I2436d ago

No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.

FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.

(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)

C-H-E-F2436d ago

Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.

I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.

InTheZoneAC2436d ago

A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.

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Dear Sony – It’s time to revive SOCOM

Sean @ FG: "Dear Sony, We need to talk about SOCOM."

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Neonridr2477d ago

Aim Controller support too, heck just throw in VR while we are at it.

Neonridr2477d ago

to which one? You wouldn't like to be able to use the aim controller for socom? Using a dual shock is more believable?

And why can't VR be an option? I never said to make the game VR exclusive did I?

Silly gameAr2477d ago

No to both. If Socom comes back it needs to come back in all of it's old school glory.

Neonridr2477d ago

@Silly gameAr - so not giving people options is the way to go? I mean if you are so against the aim controller couldn't you just use a dual shock instead? Maybe I am asking too much to have choices to suit different play styles.

Kribwalker2477d ago

I agree liquid. Make it like old school socom. I wanna hide claymores in the grass again 😎

Silly gameAr2477d ago

It's good to have options, but those options just wouldn't suit a game like Socom.

XisThatKid2477d ago

Bring MAG back instead. Zippers last successful game

JackBNimble2477d ago

Not this shit again... you socom fans need to move on

morganfell2477d ago

I want the biggest challenge again - win Enowapi as a SEAL in Breach Mode.

Liqu1d2477d ago

@Neonridr No to both.

Socom 4 allowed you to use the PS Move, it was trash and a waste of development time. They could do a VR firing range or something and I'm sure it would be alright, but if Socom is going to return then they need to stick to basics and provide what fans of the franchise liked. Pointless additions like aim controller and VR support will only bloat development costs and make a revival more risky.

Skull5212477d ago

SOCOM was easily the best franchise on PlayStation, it is sad what has happened to it. I do however have a bad taste in my mouth after SOCOM 4 coming out then PSN immediately hacked and offline for a month... Still to this day I do not trust Sony with my credit card information.

sonarus2477d ago

Big yes to socom will pass on the vr tho

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USMC_POLICE2477d ago

They did that with move on ps3, it was absolutely horrible. Then again all of socom 4 was a train wreck.

Neonridr2477d ago

meh, would never hurt to give options. Move on PS3 was absolutely horrible because the camera sucked real bad. Fairpoint accuracy with the Aim Controller is picked up quite well.

Der_Kommandant2477d ago

No thanks, SOCOM 4 with move was the worst thing ever. The game was bad and that thing made it even worse.

SOCOM Confrontation was decent though.

XisThatKid2477d ago

Wasn't made by zipper it was a glitch mess and people hated on it until people didn't know what they had until it was gone. Then we got SOCOM 4. :(

madforaday2477d ago

Socom Confrontation was GREAT 6 months after the release of the game. Also, once they added the stupid Tilly that was when I quit. I tend to not complain about guns but the Tilly was a sniper rifle/shotgun. That gun was more broken than the IW-80 in Socom 2.

Liqu1d2477d ago

@madforaday That's when I quit as well. Pretty much everyone was using Tilly.

Movefasta19932477d ago

Confrontation was my first socom game and I loved it dearly...I would love a remaster of that if Sony aren't that bothered

madforaday2477d ago

@Liqu1d

Yeah, it was awful I remember in Blizzard you will have people camping with the Tilly and rushing with the TIlly, it was soo annoying.

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madforaday2477d ago

That is THE worst idea for a Socom type game. You can have the option of course, but no one will use it because a controller will take you down so easily.

WeAreLegion2477d ago

No, it won't. Even on Socom 4, the Move guys were owning the controller guys. It's much faster. Why would you think a controller is faster?

madforaday2477d ago

@WeAreLegion

HAHAH I really hope you are kidding I am sure the 20 people who were using it were owning with it lol ;)

madforaday2477d ago

Also, On VR I don't know how many 3rd person view games there are but I think that would be weird in VR having a guy right in front of you. If you make it 1st person you would be at an unfair advantage compared to the people who aren't.

WeAreLegion2477d ago

3rd person works really well in VR. Maybe games have it.

Movefasta19932477d ago

Socom is for the hardcore/competitive gamer,focus on making a great mp game first then add the bullshit for people who want it

LP-Eleven2477d ago

Yeah.....no.

OT: I'd be all for it! SOCOM is still one of those franchises that a "hidden gem" feel to it!

XanderZane2476d ago

Meh..
Dear Sony, it's time to revive Syphon Filter.

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Kribwalker2477d ago

One of my favourite games on the ps2. Socom 1/2 got a lot of playtime by me. This one, madden football and ssx3 were my first foray into online console gaming

81BX2477d ago

No sh!t. I was just looking up socom 4 videos last night lol

hit173882477d ago

Yes, slant six did better than them last time. Socom 4 was horrible. confrontation was the last good socom. Well after patches .

Sunny_D2477d ago

I remember that... the load times were haunting.

SolidDuck2477d ago

Not just normal patches. Like a year and half worth of patches. After that it was pretty good.

XisThatKid2477d ago (Edited 2477d ago )

Lol where you there during beta it was absolutely hilarious. GOD I miss that game.....i miss MAG too

81BX2477d ago

Confrontation had the best sounds in any shooter at the time.

luis_spartano2476d ago

Slant Six was shut down a while ago.

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SquidBuck2476d ago

Let's all write Sony that we want Mag 2! Let's make it happen!!! Come on people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hit173882477d ago

Yes to this. It's time look how well battlegrounds is doing. 3rd person shooters are doing a comeback and it's the only game PS4 is missing to make my dream list complete since monster Hunter already is coming and we have crash and a few other classics coming back.

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