Capcom's Yoshinori Ono discusses his views on his "rival" series, Mortal Kombat.
hardly a rivalry when most mortal kombat games are shit in fact as a series mortal kombat is probably one of the worst fighters
yeah you right but this mortal kombat is going to be the best one
mortal kombat is for casuals, not pros. its always been like that. and dont you dare call out the casuals, they get emotional when you talk about their skill level
@Sasanova lol @ "pros" thinking that they're the most important people in gaming. I'd much rather enjoy a game than spend hours of my life practicing it till the novelty wears off. Been there, done that, grew out of it. You aren't special for taking a game seriously.
Oh he's special alright, just not in the way he'd like to be.
Whatever, I'm sure he'll try to milk the Street IV further.. Arcade Edition, super ex IV, ulta. Which now includes: Evil Ryu De-furred Blanca non-slutty Chun-Li Catholic Dhalsim Shy Ken Nice Mr. Bison
Ono is my least favorite Street Fighter game designer.
they add one new character per release. whats next? golden street fighter 4 triple platinum rainbow edition.
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The hell they are, there is only a small few that are bad at all, don't know where you got that from. I never did think of Mortal Kombat as a rival to Street Fighter though. I always thought of Tekken to be the rival. I love all three though so it doesn't bother me. I am very hooked on the demo for Mortal Kombat, its really shaping up to be a stellar game.
I'm guessing he hasn't been playing for long. One of the new generation of gamers who haven't experienced the first 3 MK games. edit: I can understand why he'd say it though since a lot of the MK games haven't been good. This one seems to be returning to it's roots and therefore should be great.
I don't know i mean i am a big fan of both, but i tend to lean more to that which offers me more at that given time, and in this case to me its clearly obvious that MK is that product this time around. With capcom trying ever so hard to pull that call of duty monetizing scheme on character skins and new editions. However when it comes to rivalry i suppose this is the only other series to be out there as long as street fighter has. So what if there are a few bad mk games, its not as if street fighter ex and sf the movie were any good either. Besides capcom tend to drag a certain series long enough with the subtitles. every other MK game has been different or direct sequels so fair is fair. Guys logically when i match something like two different products, i try and look at both products and see how similar they are to each other and based on my findings determine whether or not its a rivalry. So example of this would be... MK vs killer instincts Tekken vs Virtua fighter Street fighter vs king of fighter Dead or alive vs soul caliber vs battle arena toshinden Smash bros vs power stone? Guilty gear vs blue blaze Primal rage vs bloody roar Bleach vs naruto ect Besides i am more for the dark theme of MK, i mean i rather hear this http://www.youtube.com/watc... over say...this? http://www.youtube.com/watc... lol too pop for my taste.
@Supremacy Wait what? I see your point but Guilty Gear vs BlazBlue??? You do understand those titles are created by the same company...right? Haven't you noticed the 2 protagonists from BB look like cropped out version of the GG guys i.e SolBadguy?
MK has always been shallow too me. The way the movies are executed makes it very difficult to get any depth in the combo system. It's all about flashy violent moves, which is fine by me. Street Fighter still rules the roost, and games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue is the real competitor to SF, not MK. Personally I always felt MK to be a sh!tty series, except for the 2-3 first games that came out eons ago.
... Mortal Kombat has a combo system?!?!? When did THIS happen?
Oh stop living in denial... compared to a game like Street Fighter, it DOESN'T have a combo system. That's actually the one thing it really needs... not more blood and dismemberment to hide behind. Hell, the only thing that it had that caught MY interest was Liu Kang. And they even screwed THAT up! Then Street Fighter comes along with Fei Long...
Personaly I never liked Street fighter much, I prefer Mortal Kombat even if they made some bad games lately, the new one looks awesome! As for fighting games, well Killer Instinct is still on my top.
..said the fanboy of a rival fighter.
Tekken 6 is better
Mortal Kombat character are more badass. I hate the word "badass" but whatever
they arent lol, tho just like SF most characters r copy paste designs, like 10 scorpions, syraxes and goro types, same with meleena's etc, pretty sad. also stiff and bad gameplay newer one improved alot tho, but nothing compared to other fighting games
I hadn't really thought of that, but Mortal Kombat is much cooler. Just compare the menu screens. MK has Scorpion breaking Sub Zero's neck and SSF4 has Ryu and Ken about to bang each other.
LMAO about the Ken and Ryu part totally forgot about that. Also you forgot about this (although it's not a bad track).
@ the-peoples-champ I have to admit, that's definitely the worst, most annoying song, in a fighting game ever!
Mortal Kombat is awsome, and this new one is going to kick some serious ass.
My only beef with mortal kombat is that without the gore , it would be nothing noteworthy . Granted its a huge boon and integral part of it and atmosphere already , but i usually prefer fighting games to be a bit less shallow on the mechanics and gameplay side . Still the more franchises and flavors , the better . The recent times have been awesome for 2d fighting games , while the 3d ones grew complacent
Yeah noticed it while typing lol
The thing that always kept MK as my favorite fighter, was that the story was actually interesting to me. I love the characters more than any other game. No fighting game has a rivalry like Scorpion and Sub-Zero, or bosses like Goro. And most fighting games, especially Japanese ones, dont take the story portion of the game seriously at all. Watch the endings to Tekken 2. Half of them make no sense. And I beat that game with every character just to see the ending.
Growing up I was always more of a fan of Mortal Kombat than Street Fighter - then the PS2 days came around... Well, at least this MK is going to "rectify" that bittersweet past by rewriting the story from 1, 2 and 3.
I'm sorry, but fatalities > hadokens any day of the week. The decision process to throw a hadoken is about as kiddie pool as their overall direction with focus dash cancel additions. They even simplified the button motions, ie df df P instead of d,df,f p. The real clincher here is the 3ds having completely automated motions and combos off a single "tap" on a screen. Not only are not committed to throwing your moves, you can abuse the game mechanic to combo further into more spamming repetitious combos. This guys is a complete hypocrite in my opinion for those harsh words towards MK.
Now if there's one thing I don't like it, it's people (like yourself) that don't have a clue what they're talking about. Please, simmer down. Seriously, what on earth are you on about. The technical precision in high level SF play is much more in depth to high level MK play. Even in SF4. Any one who knows anything about fighting games knows that. As with Baka, I agree..without its gore MK would be nothing. Samey character designs (don't try and tell me SF is the same because the character encyclopedia's and artbooks argue otherwise) . Not enough depth. It passed its sell by date a while ago. Gore isn't cool anymore. At least not in fighting games. If you're gonna do it, do it like God of War. Passed its expiration date years ago. Only reason this new one is being released is to cash in on the fighting game revival brought about by SF4 and BlazBlue. The MK fanboys need to simmer down, cut down on this sudden hate campaign they got going for SF and other fighting games and just stop acting as if this series is still relevant to the fighting game scene.
Exactly. Can't blame them though if they never tried to learn the game, or even watched a tournament match before.
Any street fighter , even the EX ones , are chess on crack . MK is just ... the crack part :p . More seriously , everyone knows you are reaching and scrapping the barrel , when the most you can do is trash handheld versions .. The handheld version is simplified ? Dear lord the infamy ! Quickly someone bring me back Mortal kombat gameboy with its everlasting depth :s .
Totally with you minus the BlazBlue. BB didn't revive anything. Its all SF4 and MVC3. Having said that MK9 looks like fun.
Nope Blazbue definitively participated in big parts to the revival of fighting games . It even beats sf4 in arcade popularity consistantly . Especially with the horrible online from some title back then , like tekken 5-6 and Kof constrasting with the best online netcode so far .
i agree as well seriously Without Gore , this game is nothing .. whereas almost everyone else manage to be spectacular without it .
@ mc-fine So what exactly did SF4 and MVC3 bring? i guess more casuals. Blazblue is the best 2d style fighting this gen. I guess 3d style gameplay goes to Tekken.
Wait a minute...I remember seeing this argument in Billy Madison...
Western fighting games, shallow as Paris Hilton
To those who complain about SF have you even attempted to learn the game? How about you learn the basics before you start complaining about hadokens (which are primarily used for zoning). There's a reason why MK was never taken seriously in the fighting game community lol. If it wasn't for the gore this series wouldn't have been anything special. I commend NeatherRealm studios for designing this game for tournaments and from the footage/demo the game has improved, but let's not get carried away.
rival are you joking MK is shit.
I can't even compare the two! Both games are great in different ways.
2 totally diff games. Who cares. However, everything between UMK3 and before the new one were indeed trash.
It's amusing that Street Fighter is seen as this paragon of fighting game perfection while Mortal Kombat is viewed as trash. It's easy to have the best fighting series when a large majority of it is simply releasing the same 2 games over and over. You know how many revisions of Street Fighter 2 it took to get the game to the state most of you remember it in? SIX. Go back and play the very original Street Fighter from 1991. You will think to yourself, "Holy fuck. What is this shit?" Six revisions of tweaks, added characters, sprite upgrades, etc to make the game the "perfect" fighter that we all remember. Street Fighter 3? Three revisions. Street Fighter 4? Three for arcades (though, only on it's 2nd for consoles). And those are just the "main" games. Lets not forget the abomination that is the EX series (Yes, even the SF series has some duds in it's closet). Or the fact that NO NEW STREET FIGHTER ENTRIES WERE RELEASED FOR OVER A FUCKING DECADE (Keyword: New. Not SF2/3/Alpha remvisions). Shit, I'm sure Mortal Kombat would still be remembered as this fabled fighting game series too if they stopped making games after Trilogy. Instead, while Street Fighter took the decade off, Mortal Kombat continued to make new games. Some good (Deadly Alliance), some not so good (everything that wasn't Deadly Alliance). But at least the franchise wasn't starved and deserted. Sure it's had a checkered past, and the newest entries aren't as memorable as the older ones, but that's not enough to write off the entire franchise. Mortal Kombat didn't go toe-to-toe with Street Fighter in the 90s because of blood and fatalities. It went toe-to-toe with Street Fighter 2 because Mortal Kombat 2 was one of the finest fighting games of it's time. Also, Ono is the last person I want to hear talk about complicated mind games vs flashy moves when he's trying to justify the 1-button ultras in SSF43D as making the series "more accessible": http://kotaku.com/#!5787542...
Revisionism at its best . Each original version starting sf2 had more than enough than enough gameplay depth . The rest further additions , characters and obvious rebalances . Hell SF3's first version was unbalaned as hell , but at its core still the revolution sf3 was (even if obviously unpopular) . "Instead, while Street Fighter took the decade off, Mortal Kombat continued to make new games. Some good (Deadly Alliance), some not so good (everything that wasn't Deadly Alliance). But at least the franchise wasn't starved and deserted. " Dude there is a reason many consider the upcoming game as kinda mk4 . A decade of crap or subpar isnt any better than starvation . Sure no street fighter for a decade , but was capcom entirely doozing off ? nah they still released other fighting game masterpieces during said "starvation" ... even if not all of them were for SF fans . Everyone remember their Vs series (snk , marvel ..) , or rival schools etc ... pretty much everyone try to forget or already forgot MK vs DC , and everything between UMK3 and Mk 2011 .
There has only been one MK Vs game. There have been eight for Street Fighter/Capcom. Sure MK vs DC wasn't stellar, but every Vs game until MvC2 was pretty forgettable as well (to do the math for you: That's one forgettable entry vs three). Also, we're talking about Street Fighter and MK here. It doesn't matter if Capcom released other fighting games in Street Fighter's absence. That's like saying, "Sure Nintendo hasn't released a new Kid Icarus game in 23 years, but they're still making Mario." What in the holy fuck does Mario have to do with Kid Icarus? MK also hasn't been a "decade of crap". Deadly Alliance was fantastic. Deception and MKDC we're solid (despite MK fans hating MKDC for a lack of violence, the game itself was still solid). MK4 and Armageddon were abysmal. As a whole, the franchise still rank above DoA (which is the absolute worst of the popular 3D fighters and that no one would remember if it wasn't for tits) and about on par with Tekken (Face it, Tekken peaked with 3 and has been downhill since). Not on par with Soul Calibur or Virtua Fighter, sure, but that's hardly a bad standing for it to be in. And with MK2011, the title looks to compete for the title of best fighting game overall.
@Kanji08 Have it your way ..it's your opinion after all but don't try to force feed it to us please. First there is nothing wrong with tekken 5 ( aside his cheap boss ). Second , you're putting DOA ( tits ) below ( pure gore ? ) MK ? again it's your opinion ..but you seems to be grasping at straws here. When you have only one selling point A is no better than B . Third there is a reason why this game goes at EVO this year .. if the previous MK were so solid , then why everyone avoided it ? I think the lack of depth is a pretty obvious reason
Of course it does matter that capcom still pumped other franchise meanwhile . And please lay off the bottle ... all of the VS series are remembered fondly and still massively requested . i think he means that it was hardly the starvation you described , and like he said , even then , better starve and leave the franchise in a good state , and coming back again with quality , than pump out stuff in erratic fashion and of inconsistant quality . Heck , I find DOA shallow , but it is even better overall . For starters for all its flaws , DOA brought some fresh idea to a stagnating 3d fighting genres , since copied and used sometimes better . I couldnt remember either , a part of MK truly relevant and actually copied gameplay wise ... except by the superior Killer instinct games .
Lol they indeed can't get over a frickin DS version ... Keep praying they dont release a 3DS mk anytime soon , otherwise you'll feel silly wasting complaints on a portable game
@Kanji08 Give this man a fucking medal. I don't have any so take some bubbles instead.
I like this MK more than all of the street fighters but most street fighters IMO are better than most MK.
Mortal Kombat destroys Street Fighter
I like Street Fighter, it's a good game. However, I have always preferred MK to SF, because it's lot more flashier and has characters that just seem interesting. But more importantly, I like it for the story. I'm a sucker for sci-fi, fantasy stories, and MK does it best with the whole Outworld thing and alien races etc. SF and MK have had differences in fighting styles for sure, but that's no reason to condemn one as bad.
Street Fighter is glitchy overrated crap that anyone can get into with half ass carbon copy characters Dont tell me that Sf is better because of tournaments and has a deeper figting system because any noob will play SF over mk simply because its easier Most people dont like getting punished for doing dumb crap which mk is all about, try to spam an iceball at me with sub, oh wait you cant MK has always owned Sf, for one reason only, ITS A FIGHTING GAME not footsies and spamming And yes i know how to play Sf, its not hard at all
"footsies and spamming" fuckin lol SF is overrated. I thought MK had little depth at first, until you realize that they don't put in moves for no reason. Every move has a "function" and should not be spammed just because you need damage. Then there's the ridiculous combos coming out of special moves and regular attacks... "but zomg you don't block by walking backwards*!!!" *worst way to block out of any game. you don't like it, you got used to it. theres a difference.
Nope you obviously don't know how to play street fighter at all . And i do realise feeding your trolling is pointless ...
If you get punished by an endless amount of fireball in street fighters then your level is very low . i don't consider myself good nnough for tournament and i know how to get past the fireballs.. you don't know street AT ALL . Street 4 especially you can negate fireballs with carefull focus cancels and severalfighters have absorb energy moves or very quick dashes making teh fireball fests useless . A gen , chun li , bison , rose , abel and the list goes on have easy-to-use moves that works even better with fire ball spamming . your lack of knowledge about this just show how WEAK your knowledge of fighting games in general is as a whole.
have fun facing a ryu spammer then when you goto punish, he cancels into a shoryuken but i dont know fighting games, funny cause KOF is almost the same yet rapes SF kthxbai
Lol you make it sound like you don't understand how everyone play street . Hadouken fireballs are used to control the pace of the fight and aren't meant to be abused . as i said there are plenty of way to get past them . If that method was all it is to street we'll would have seen spammer methods at evo . but it doesn't happen and that is because this method doesn't work unless you 're a noob. Fireball are used to control teh field , at most you'll see two in a row . The cancel method you're refering too doesn't work either , especially in SF4 , because of the focus that give you a clean advantage to place whatever you want after you've absorbed the ball. And your knowledge of fighting games is really poor because spamming doesn't work either in KOF , ( A+B) it's rolling to evade. Again everything is in the timing but everyone who has played the game enough know the timing to execute this move in order to have the advantage. Spamming moves is one of the first things that are checked when a fighting games reaches japanese arcades by the players ..it's vital to the success of a game . The simple fact that this game is still strong just show how ridiculous your argument is. you're probably one of those talking about the game yet unable to clear the challenges of SF4 frustrated by the difficulty . Don't worry , you can do it if you have enough willpower.
UMMM Everyon Check this out, i promise ya will love it, MK vs SF http://www.youtube.com/watc... skip to 3:40 for fight part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watc...
never liked street fighter, and never will. i'm just not into the art style or gameplay. i almost died laughing when he said 'Mortal Kombat is more flashy than Street fighter' though, now that was funny. lol
They both have juggles, moves are slightly easier on MK but the characters are a lot more interesting on MK purely because they have a Western stint to them. Heck Marvel Vs Capcom, the marvel characters are much better in terms of likeability. Reptile is like a character from V, Scorpion is very Western too, sub zero is like iceman and they all have a style like Big Trouble in Little china. So long as Midway don't gouge consumers like Capcom does it will be a winner hands down. Am really turning off Capcom because of the DLC models already on the disc (104kb for an unlock code, sickening!).
Mortal Kombat's always been all about frantically trying to pull off the fatalities, dueling leg sweeps, and dueling uppercuts.
I think im just gonna casual around in MK9, I honestly dont think its that deep of a game.. plus, exclusive characters? smh...
Mortal Kombat lost my interest the moment they announced that they're holding back a bunch of characters to release them as DLC. Fuck that.
A comparison to Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter isn't exactly possible in my opinion. Tekken and Mortal Kombat are more competitors due to Street Fighter not having a juggle system (Unless you count Marvel vs Capcom and those other titles), frankly I can't stand juggling, it just leads to hit after hit after hit, and if your a good player (Or just an asshole who doesn't give people a chance in online play), you just continuously do that till you win. I like the ease and fun of Street Fighter, you just punch kick and shoryuken your opponents, while they still have a chance to attack back if you make a mistake.
street fighters sucks , the gameplay really boring for me , mortal kombat have the same type of gameplay but it's alot better , it's fun to play it , you do more then one move not like street fighters , you just do one move like just a kick and stop punch and stop kick and stop A...A.....A....A...A...A...B.. .B...B..B..B..B..B..B.B..B.B.X . X.X.X...X.X.X..X.X...X..Y...Y. . Y.Y..Y.Y...Y you have to wait alot to hit another time ,in a short way to say it , it's suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks , the gameplay in it really slow and doesn't need skills , mortal kombat would need skills if they just add more moves to the players... the best fighting games are tekken , king of fighters and mortal kombat , king of fighters have the same type of gameplay but at least it's fun....
street fighter and mortal kombat are just two different games to me. I never could compare them. The new one seems like if street fighter and mk had a baby. I really like the direction they went.. alot of throwback but people want a throwback mk. The biggest thing though that seperates mk and street fighter for me is mk pushed big on building a story around the characters to fuel the imagination of a gamers mind.. where street fighter is.. well they all magically show up and beat each other up.... yeah im sure street fighter does have some sort of story for it.. but i think mk really hit home on creating a mk universe.