40 GB PS3: Will No PS2 Backwards Compatibilty Hinder Sales?

It was officially announced yesterday that a new low priced 40GB PS3 would be hitting overseas next week. A U.S. announcement has not been made at this time.

The only complaint about this new model seems to be the lack of backwards compatibility with the PS2 game library. So lets take a look at whether this would truly hinder many sales.

[SimmoUK]

no of course not, the general consumer wouldn't even care, i can't believe there's a whole article on this crap now how stupid...

[ConsoleKing]

is because if you go to most of the gaming sites they are all saying how it was such a bad idea for Sony to leave out b. c. this article shows why its not that big of a deal. And that it will still sell regardless. If there are articles depicting it as bad like this one

http://www.joystiq.com/2007...

then why can't their be an article showing that it isn't bad and that people will purchase it regardless?

[ConsoleKing]

alot of these comments are portraying this as a negative article but if you read the whole thing its not negative at all. The answer to the question is no it won't hinder sales and it explains why.

[Spike47]

the average consumer does'nt even know what backwards comp. is.

and why would they wanna buy a ps3 and later play ps2 games on it with games like drake's fortune,ut3,assasins creed,or ratchet and clank 5.

this is just a stupid way to bash sony.

it's just so stupid.

[TheExecutive]

Exactly. Now that there are some huge games coming out BC is less important than it was this year.

[VendettaWFT]

Yah I agree all this negative attention getting thrown at the 40 gig is ridiculous. I mean it still offers a ton of options for just $399. The only thing you can't do is play PS2 games? I mean who really cares. Listen most people who bought a PS3 never play the old PS2 games, I mean whats the point, Yah I can see maybe poppin in SotC, GOW1/2, MGS3 but other than a quick nostalgic play through, thats it. If you still play PS2 games all the time then keep the system around and still play them...thats no big deal. It's kinda bullsh!t that Sony said that BC was all might back like a year ago, and now pass it off as something thats not really needed. But in all honesty if they can get a PS3 in homes to play Uncharted, MGS4, UT3, RCToD, Warhawk...then good for them. If your still complaining about it a lot, then buy the 60 or 80 gig...im pretty sure that still has BC

[ironflag555]

damn even with a price drop, ppl still find something to complain about, dont trade your ps2 if its that much of a big deal

[ash_divine]

that's exactly what I was thinking, it just shows what kind of world we live in. sad ain't it?

[mikeaka]

BC is a cool feature to have,especially if you have a big ps2 collection but only a fool would let that stop them from buying a console.sony can always release popular PS2 titles on PSN and lets face it,half of them will get next gen incarnations.

[cmrbe]

I don't think it will hinder sales as people that already have a PS2 might just want a cheap PS3 like me but i already bought mine 9 months ago. Will just wait and see but i am pretty positive that they will fly off the shelves

[sumfood4u]

It sorta henders it but looks like the PS3 is bringing out Big Bang Games to make up for the Lack of BC!

[Snukadaman]

contrary too the sony gestapo that disagree, Sony said themselves...65 titles this holiday...most terrible multiplatform versions....of those 65 at least 30 are good...and now in europe...too have no option of playing ps2 games hurts it alot.

http://news.filefront.com/s...

[harpua]

Aren't people going to buy a PS3 to play PS3 games? If you own PS2 games then your prolly going to already have a console to play them on, and still have that console after the PS3 purchase.

[jack who]

or maybe 360 costin less and have more and better games

[romemac7]

people don't care to much for backwards compatibility, if they did then the 360 would a been dread from the start!!! seeing how you can't play any xbox game on you 360. and if you do want backwards compatibility just buy a 60gb ps3, so stop doing this stupid article on how 40gb ps3 don't have backwards compatibility because there the 60gb one that have it.and do a article on how no 360 never ever gave you the chose to have backwards compatibility

[jack who]

than why was halo 2 still the most played game until gow came out?...

[VendettaWFT]

Because Halo 2 was the only online game MSFT had until GeOW came out.

[The Dude]

Yes.

[Wozzer]

I read an article on N4G the other day that said they may eventually add BC into the 40GB via fimware updates:

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

[WilliamRLBaker]

it was all nasim spin

[deathtok]

It would be smarter for Sony to have backward compatibility. I personally use it a lot but I know the masses probably won't mind. Hopefully they deliver with a firmware update that gives a good rate of compatibility. But I still have my PS2 :)

[funkysolo]

I thought the 80GB was going to have ps2 emulations on it, so why can't the 40GB have the same thing? They need to add it just to STFU these xbots

[picker332]

oh man that suck's!!!
What if some one sell's hes ps2 but not hes game's and then buy this ps3 poor him/her!

[QuackPot]

Ps3 is a next gen console not old.

[PimpHandHappy]

sales will do fine

[QuackPot]

The Ps2 has a huge install base that are waiting for the right price to buy a Ps3

If they want to play ps1 or 2 games then simply use your Ps2. No brainter. I still have my Ps1 & Ps2 so 100% compatibility is no problem.

Ps3 is for the next gen experience not BC.

But likely a future firmware will bring BC anyhows, for those gamers who just can't let go of the past...or are too lazy to plug in the AV and power for your Ps2.

[JosefTor]

I think this article is made valid because a lot of PS3 fans laughed at the 360 when there was limited BC.

[DJ]

but the majority were sort of confused because Microsoft said that most people don't care about BC. The reason I loved my PS2 initially is because it had BC for my PS1 titles, but that was only in the first year. Afterwards, I never really looked back.

Can't really say how important BC is for potential PS3 owners, but at least they have a choice between having it and not having it. Being able to get a PS3 at $399 though, the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite, is pretty amazing though.

[WilliamRLBaker]

more then a few on the net made fun, DJ just wants to downplay the sonyfanboy machine and its abbility to make retarded statements.

LOl what is it nwo 4 sku's on the ps3? and only 3 so far on the xbox.
lol

[Rooftrellen]

William, I have seen a lot of Sony fanboys, even recently, pick on the 360 for not being fully backward compatable.

However, in DJ's defense, he's not one of them that I recall.

No one wants to be held accountable for what they did not say, even if people in the same group did say it, so go track down the Sony fanboys that did talk bad about the 360 for having multiple SKU's and not being backward compatable, not a Sony fan that didn't say anything about it.

[hardcorehippiez]

bt the ps3 has models that are bc. does the 360?

[Meus Renaissance]

The author of this article should question himself which are the customers likely going to buy; a 40GB console, or a better console with two games for £49 more?

The answer makes the new model, and it's BC lackings, irrelevant. The PS3 will sale.

[wil4hire]

All articles are speaking on no more B|C as if sony is stopping it for ALL systems.

Its just doing it for the entry level model, thats it.

[ConsoleKing]

it isn't negative at all it is saying that its not a bad thing that they left out b. c.

[SKUD]

If you wanted a cheaper PS3 then you should know this was coming. Your NOT going to have all the features of a full blown 60GB model. Cuts have to be made and this is one of them.

[TeaDouble_E]

nuff said

[Guitarded]

There may have been 120 million PS2's sold, but since most people had to buy more than one due to disc read errors, there are considerably fewer PS2 "owners" than the number of consoles sold. Everyone I know, including myself, had to buy a second PS2 because Sony has terrible support when it comes to standing behind the products they sell.

[romemac7]

this is just sony entry level model for people that just want a cheaper ps3 that all. so it don't have all the features of a 60gb ps3!!! that why they call it cheaper level people. but you know it still have a 40gb hdd, blu-ray player, wifi, hdmi out,2 usb post, 4801, 480p, 720i, 720p, 1080i,1080p and play all the ps3 game that the 20gb,60gb, and the 80gb one do, the same can't be said for the 360 entry level core 360 which had no hdd, no wifi, no nothing and you can't play the same game as in the 360 hdd one lol.

@guitarded wtf!!! then if there not 120 million ps2 owners out there as you say and people had to buy 2 ps2 at a time because of disc read errors? your saying there 60 million ps2 owner buying 2 ps2 at a time got it up to 120 million ps2 right that your math yea!!!then by that math there not 8 million 360 owner out there, there 4 million but they had to buy 2x the 360 more because of the RROD right!!!! making it 8 million now right!!! that the way you saying it work right!!! STFUP

lmao @guitarded Microsoft's didn't acknowledge the RROD problems until a year later dunba@s because they were going to get suit by million of 360 loving fanboy like you. so before you talk look it up first!!!and the only reason they fix it for free now is to keep from getting a lawsuit dumbA#S

[Guitarded]

Microsoft is fixing mine FOR FREE! Sony wouldn't even acknowledge their problems untill there was a class action lawsuit against them. So why don't you STFUP dumb@ss! Sony: Let's see if we can win the lawsuit and not have to pay for our mistake. Microsoft: Before we get sued, lets use that money to take care of our customers.

[Rooftrellen]

No, but people had to buy another PS2 after their first one messed up. I don't think the PS2 is as bad as the 360 (though I had a Sony fanboy disagree with me on this), but it was worse than pretty much anything any other console besides the 360 has done.

I got a PS2 recently, from a friend who got a PS3, and it was his 3rd one. The first two fell to disc read errors, but just so we're clear, I'll explain the order of events.

1. He buys a PS2.
2. PS2 has disc read error, Sony won't fix it.
3. He buys a second PS2, at a different time, to replace the broken one.
4. Second PS2 has a disc read error, and, again, Sony won't fix it.
5. He buys a third PS2.

Now I provide anecdotal evidence and show what was meant about having to buy two PS2's, not at the same time (I have no idea how you got that), and I'll bet I get more disagrees than agrees, though I didn't so much as put an opinion on here.

[OatLoops]

Is it out of the question to trade in a old PS2 or sell it on Ebay and use that cash towards the purchase of the 60 GB PS3?

[TheMART]

Uhm without B.C. what's there to play on the PS3?

Not being able to play God of War 2...

Imagine. A customer buys the PS3 40 GB because they THINK they can play PS2 games also. They get home, put in a PS2 game... Nothing! They complain, are confused, tell their friends their PS3 doesn't play any PS2 games

Ever heard of the already negative spiral the PS3 has in news which will get more and more negative buzz this way???

Really. Sony fandroids always were crying over MS using more then one unit. Sony has topped MS in that and even has a less clear strategy. The Core/Arcade, Premium and Elite at least all can do the same. The PS3 is really becoming a mess like this.

All because Sony needs to cut costs to get cheaper PS3's on the market. Another sign they started of on a too high pricelevel.

[JIN KAZAMA]

I have a PS2, and so do about 120 million other people. I have PS2 games, and I even bought GOW 2. With that said, since i have had my PS3, I havent even played ANY of my PS2 games. GOW 2 had been sitting in its case ever since i bought it, and reluctantly, i traded it in, because i knew I wouldnt be playing it anytime soon. B.C. is nice, but it wont turn away a consumer looknig to buy a pS3.
1. If a customer NEVER had a PS2, and is buying a PS3, then BC is irrelevant to him, because he never had a PS2 to begin with.
2. If he Does have a PS2, B.C. is still irrelevent to him because he can still buy PS2 games and play them on his PS2.
3. If he REALLY wants play PS2 games on his PS3 then he will go with the 60GB or 80GB SKU.

Its that simple.

PLAY B3YOND and think OUTSIDE the (x)BOX.

[TheMART]

So why did you Sony fanboys all first make such a big problem over the 360 not having all games in B.C.? And now suddenly B.C. isn't a big thing anymore?

Really. Do you know how much people sell their last gen console to fund their new gen alternative? I know many people that sold their old XBOX 1 or PS2 to buy a 360. Those with an XBOX 1 can play the most known games on their 360. Those that sell their PS2's to have some money off the PS3 high price and buy the new 40 GB PS3 will be in for a suprise.

The best game for a PS system at this time, even with the new PS3 games out, is still God of War 2.

Fact is a new customer might not look away over not having B.C. on the new 40 GB PS3, but it will get confusion into the world. What if your friend has a 80 GB PS3 with B.C. He says: take this great game, God of War 2 to your home to play it on your PS3. You put it in... NOTHING

WTF do I own an inferior PS3? What the heck is this! Can I upgrade to play them still like the 360 Core can put a HDD on and have B.C.? No I can't...

All this stuff that has just been done to get the pricecuts going to SURVIVE in the consolemarket will in the end confuse so much and bring so much negative buzz, that the PS3 will end 3rd this gen.

[Primetimebt]

Let me explain this to you. If you want a PS3 that plays your PS2 games spend an extra $100 and buy the 60 or 80gb. If you have a ps2 and want to save $100 than buy a 40 GB. Nobody is buying a Ps3 to spend most of there time playing ps2 games. The 80 gig will also be an option but most people will rather save the $100 and don't care about the bc. Now like you xbots been saying for some time "we have choices" save a $100, spend a $100

[gamehendge]

So using the x-kiddies logic, if you own ps2 titles you don't own a ps2 to play them on?

[ash_divine]

that's exactly what I was thinking, thats what makes this whole argument pointless and stupid.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

YEAH!!!

That would just straight up PISS ME OFF! It doesn't matter so much if your 360 isn't backwards compatible...but the original xbox didn't have any games.

The PS2 has THE BEST library of games ever assembled. You want me to give that all up??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

I know I could keep my PS2, but why do that when I could sell it to Gamestop and buy another PS3 game?

I'm still goin' through GOW2, Fatal Frame III, and a bunch of other titles...

I think it'll be the same as the other SKU's. They didn't have time to make it completely backwards compatible...but it will be over time. I'm sure.

Here:

-Make a 120 Gig and a 250 Gig. Both have the same features and come in Black or White. 250 and 500 Gig HDD should be available as long as a 1TB HDD...

Price them at 350 and 450. They would sell like hotcakes!

I think it would work fine.

[CrazzyMan]

and that is most important thing, but people somehow care more about 40GB version, interesting. :)

well, in my opinion, 40GB was made, just to make sell better 60GB. =)
and ofcourse sell some 40GB. :)

[bootsielon]

If you were true fans you wouldn't support the fact that Backwards compatibility will be MISSING. I personally hate the fact that it won't have it (but I already have my 60 GB PS3, so I have above 90% compatibility... but still, that's a bummer).

One can only hope BC will be improved with an update. Why would it be hard to emulate anyway? After all, PCs have been emulating PS2 and Xbox for some time now.... Sony should try to find a way to emulate the GS on RSX, while Cell could emulate the EE.

[Salvadore]

But the PS2 has great titles I never got the chance to play and I simply cannot afford the more expensive Sku.

[xc7x]

in fact Sony will get more PS2 sales out of this setup along with new PS3 sales,seems like the more sensible way to keep money flowing in from products verse a one product sale i.m.o.

[tomfoolery]

of course it will NOT help sales.
What are you Sony people.................STUPID?
Get a grip.

[mightydog01]

You just troll everywhere If ps2 owners want to play ps2 games on the ps3 get a 60gig ps3 cause thats got a price drop which is a bargin. And for those that are not bothered get a £299 40 gig ps3 still a bargin.
SO STOP TRYING TO SPIN IT we all know You Are 360 lover
IT'S GOOD NEWS FOR PS2 OWNERS THAT WANT TO UPGRADE
THE FUTURE'S BRIGHT FOR PS3.....

[mikeslemonade]

It's the hardcore who only care about the BC anyway. In the future it's going to have PS2 BC later. It already has PS1 BC, so what the hell is the difference. The 80gb has full PS1 BC and 98% PS2 BC. And who the hell doesn't have a PS2 already? I guess this version of the PS3 is going to be timed exclusive in Europe until Christmas because a Sony rep said there would be a price drop before Christmas. Atleast this will help boost sales in Europe because they haven't had a price drop yet.

[Spike47]

like somebody else said.

we live in a sad world.

THemart, you can play warhawk,foklore, and RFOM instead of playing last gen games.
you can also play skate and stranglehold instead f playing last gen games.
face it the majority of people don't care of BC, cause they're buying a next gen system for next gen games remember.
all of you that bash sony for this are either retards, or are just trying to make something up.

themart, those who sell their ps2s to fund for ps3s, probably wanna play next gen games, they're not gonna have a ps3 just sitting their and play their ps2 games on it unless they;re retards.

[Spike47]

is being caused by biased websites who plan to stir this up to make it look like the 40gb deal sucks when it's a great move by sony.

and you know what, they've suceeded, however

will this affect sales, if it does, it won't be that large.

this is why I want the ps3 to beat the 360, not only because it's my preference, but so that a company's system shows that it can rise above all the biased and cheating crap.

[TheMART]

Let's have some fun and think of names for the new PS3 SKU!

I'll kick off with:

PS3 - Retard model

PS-no-BC 3

Who's next

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

shut up mart. Same thing could be said for the Halo xbox and the core model.

[ash_divine]

a retard model has a 33% failure rate.

[Leg-End]

.

[Leg-End]

360 has crap bc

[TheFatOne]

@Guitarded - " No I didn't have to buy a second 360!
Microsoft is fixing mine FOR FREE! Sony wouldn't even acknowledge their problems until there was a class action lawsuit against them. So why don't you STFUP dumb@ss!"

I laughed so hard at that comment. At first i wrote that there was a class action law suit against M$(for RROD), but now that i've thought about it I don't think there was (correct me if I'm wrong), but i think that they were afraid of a law suit so they extended the warranty. I know there was one about scratched disks, but I can't remember RROD. Time for some research. Oh yeah and M$ didn't extend warranties out of the kindness in their hearts. It's business you have to cover your a**. Same with Sony, but IMHO I think the RROD was much worse than the PS2 disk read error, but both were really bad.

[dale1]

keep ps2 problem solved less youre new to gaming just buy the ps3 as its the daddy of consoles sorted

[tomfoolery]

PS...........this version sucks 3 testicles

[CrazzyMan]

Atleast ONE PS3 SKU has FULL B.C.
THAT`S WHY IT`S NOT IMPORTANT ANYMORE.

while NO x360 SKU have FULL B.C.

so if yoy NEED FULL B.C. YOU CAN GET 60GB VERSION.
IT`S A MATTER OF CHOICE, like you xbots like to say. =))

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

The most important thing should be that it's $399. Will it hinder sales? It might a little bit but your buying a PS3 for PS3 games not for PS2 games.

The 80GB isn't compatable with PS2 games either. So once the 60GB is out, no more PS2 games. That's just the way it is.
Again, I personally buy a PS3 for PS3 games. I can't exmplain it anymore.

If what you care about is PS2 games, then just keep playing those games and stick with PS2. That's about all I can tell you. It costs too much to do that, XBOX 360 doesn't play XBOX games either.

[tomfoolery]

360 does play a ton of old XBOX games and the list keeps growing.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

I'm sure the PS3 will be the same way.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

Does the 60GB in Pal regions play PS2 games? A long time ago I remember something about how the PS3 wasn't going to be backwards compatable in PAL and that they were getting screwed. So whatever happend to that?

If that's true, then this shouldn't even matter.

[hardcorehippiez]

and my backwards compatability issue is fine out of my 80 ps2 games about 74 of them worked and looked even better on my ps3. at 1st when i got it at launch yes it was an issue for me because i only haf the money for 3 launch games as well as the system. however now i have been purchasing games regularly it not an issue and have even traded back 30 or so old ps2 titles to get ps3 games. my point is now there is games and it is cheaper to buy it will be less of an issue for people or they can just fork out extra 50 to get that option :)

[TheMART]

And how about cutting that card reader that you Sony fangirls always used to say how 'next gen' the PS3 was? Now it's gone, the PS3 is less next gen in your view, right?? moahahaha

PS3 - Play R3tard3d!

EDIT:

@ Hellbringer

"First think about how many people used the card reader in the first place. not many people did. "

EXACTLY! We all knew that in front, right. Why did Sony put it in then with the other models? We know that if people buy a games console, they're not into the stupid marketingblabla that it's a computer. Cardreaders they use on a PC, not on a console.

That even makes it more stupid, that Sony fangirls back then said that the stupid extra stuff like card readers that aren't used make the PS3 really next gen equiped. What's next, a PS3 SKU were they cut the BetaBluRay player and swap it for a DVD drive because it's not really needed for games and they'll released a descent programmed and good compressed Resistance fitting with ease on a DL-DVD?

Then you all would still say: good move Sony, while some time ago you were shouting otherwise. BS3 fangirls are funny

[khellendros1]

It's still more than the 360. The 360 will never match the PS3 in quality and capacity. The games will come, and by Christmas you won't be able to use the lack of games excuse. I guess this is something new for you guys to rag on because the lack of games excuse won't apply soon. Get a life man or go play games.....unless your 360 is broken.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

First think about how many people used the card reader in the first place. not many people did.

And you pay for what you get, its called marketing genius.

[Leg-End]

you're waitin for: mass effect, nowt, nowt, nowt, nowt
im waitin for: uncharted, haze, mgs4, ff13, gt5, kz2

[dale1]

the fat one microsoft are still getting sued in europe over discs scratching and r.r.o.d hasn,t gone away over here just yet
rumour has it the,ve been messing with the module circuits were it won,t be able to flash up r.r.o.d hence no warranty but that could be all bullsh*t lets wait and see

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

There are alot of AAA titles on the PS2. If you're like me, you would want to play these classics again at some point. I just went and replayed MGS2 and currently started a new file in MGS3 this past week. And I'm sure that there are some people that will want to trade in their PS2 for a PS3 but want to keep some of the better games like GOW and play them again. If they don't want to sell their games, they would have to keep the PS2 and they would lose value on the trade in of the system. Trade value may have been 50 bucks. Thats 50 bucks they didn't need to spend if they traded but now they are forced to keep the system thus spending 50 bucks more than they had too.

[SnakeCL]

At gamestop you get about $20 trade-in for a big PS2 and $30 for a slim. Its not worth it at all. That isn't even enough to buy a game.

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

I still have mine even though I grabbed a PS3. But some people don't want the hassle of having extra consoles lying around the house if they don't need to. But yeah I still play it. The MGS games I'm playing were played on my PS2. My favourite system by far from last gen.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Why the hell would you trade a ps2 in. It obvious most gamers who are going next gen were ps2 owners. But man seriously why trade it in? rather play the $200+ worth of games on it.

btw not directing this at anyone.

[romemac7]

yes it still next gen you retarded its just a entry level model!!! so it don't have card reader or backwards compatibility and has 2 less usb post so what. that why it call a cheaper model di#k!!! but you know what it still have a blu-ray,hdmi out,wifi,480i&p,720i&P ,1080i&p,cell,free on line and play the same ps3 game as all ps3 for 399. now that a hell let more then you get with a 360 cord system themart, let see 360 cord system no wifi,no hdmi,no hdd but if you have a game that need hdd for add on your fu@k,need to pay $50 a year for live,and RROD all this for 279.99 wow!!! so which is the better chose mmmmmm

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

hmm If the consumer is confused(stated in other articles) how would they know if it has backwards compatibility?

[AngryTypingGuy]

Personally, when I get a new console, I don't look back. I guess if there are people who have a huge PS2 library and would like to revisit some of those games every once in awhile it could be a factor, but for the most part I don't see lack of backwards compatibility hindering sales. The only thing that would slow sales is lack of a steady supply of good games coming out. Games should be a top priority for Sony right now. Yes, the Blu Ray is great, but it shouldn't be emphasized over games.

[secur1ty911]

dang I don't want one - not cuz of the price and not cuz it plays HD Bluray Movies but because it won't play my 2001 HotShots PS2 game.

Who ever say's this deserves to not own a NEXT GEN SYSTEM - oh and they're touched in the head too.

[JIN KAZAMA]

worried more about the 40GB PS3 than they are spenindling time playing Halo 3. What happened Xbots, Halo 3 isnt fun anymore??? BoooHoo.....
Lemme guess TomFoolery, you're here because you are waiting for your RROD console to come back from the factory, refurbished right. You are true to your name, you are FOOL.

60GB has B.C. ZOMBIE TURDS. 40GB is for the few that dont care about BC because they dont have the PS2 to begin with..DUUHHH.

TheFart, you have completely alienated yourself amongst the human race. Your stock in the gamming market is at all time low, I would consider you, then Enron of Gamming.

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

[TheMART]

Jinnydude, WTF is 'gamming'

You really fit my subtitle:

PS3 - PLAY R3TARD3D!

[AngryTypingGuy]

More like D3LAY B3YOND.

And yes, Halo 3 is still fun and will be until Halo 4 comes out.

[tomfoolery]

I never had a rrod issue ya dork.
Is that all you have.........rrod?
You and your pimple faced punk PS3 pals need new material...................... ..........................RROD LOLOL!
Don't you have any gangsta rap(crap)2 pack or 50 cent sh1t you could be
listening to right now youngster?
Goddamn Jiz,
you are GAYB3YOND.

[ash_divine]

pimple faced punks... good one dude.
(ends sarcasm)

[JIN KAZAMA]

forgive him, thats the best he can come up with. Oh yea, I'm sure you really havent had RROD...right. Look at your name, TomFOOLery. You fit your name perfectly, you are a complete FOOL.
And NO, the RROD's are not old, because all the 360's are a ticking TIME BOMB. So, STFU, and go play your HALO 3, or you're not playing it because your RROD isnt back from the shop yet.

PLAY B3YOND

[cmrbe]

I am getting really irritated with you X360 fanboys. Juts STFU and go tell MS to fix your fvcking PROD. You guys just pick on the most useless issue to argue. No BC is a non issue. If anyone wants it they could just buy the 60,80 model if not buy the 40. Simple. You guys must be really desperate trolling the PS3 forum. If you guys are really that scared about this new 40gig model then just go and ask MS for another drop. What a bunch of losers.

[Enigma_2099]

As long as PS2s are still on the market for $99, I think I can cut them some slack.

As for the question of BC loss affecting sales of the PS3.... YES!!!!!

They better make good on that busload of games this holiday season...

[segasage]

how many gamers said that they would never buy a Next-Gen console unless it was able to play OLD games?

Fanboys on n4G don't count, they too far stuck up sony's sh#thole..

i bet you if you take a POLL, you'll be surprised at the results..

this site is ridiculous and every gamer will swear they don't need BC. just like they didn't need RUMBLE. It's a good thing 99%+ of real PS2 gamers don't come on here and let Fanboys make decisions for them.

if this was MS downgrading the XBOX to "0" BC, I don't even have the words...

Once parents find out all that money they have spent the last 7 years on PS2 games, not to have the next-gen console be able to play, they are gonna wait for the SKU that can and if the price is still not right, in the case of the 60-80 giger then sh@t is not SELLIN.

i'm sure there will be a xbox 360 arcade glimmering in that parents eye or as an alternative. welcome to your new console kiddo...

[mightydog01]

Your just a fanboy retard if they want to play ps2 games they just get a 60gig which as got a price drop if u dont want bc for the moment get a 40gig at £299 and its still a bargin.....Is that all you retards do troll here its good news for ps2 owners they've got an option like 360 with the add ons still a bargin so go play your halo or are u bored of it already you dummy.....ps3 got some great games coming out and a price that is afordable the future is ps3 and your just scared what going to come like it or not sony here to stay for along time......

[HarryEtTubMan]

oommmggg People are sooo jealous and want to bring down Son ysoo bad!! They will never lose to a console that only sold(maybe-not quite yet) 16 million consoles and already released THE BIGGEST GAMES THEY WILL EVER RELEASE!! Like these alien shooters like Halo even come Close to havin the power to sell 60 million consoles , much less stop Sony from selling at least 90-120 million again. 75 % of people or more on this site will have a PS3 in 6-7 yeas. Probally sooner. Its just the truth. Only the true diehards care for 360 and Playstation has MUCH coming to satisfy the hardcore but also MUCH more appeal to the in between. Everything on the PS3 is superior and some people just don't like that. They don't like getting the best franchises, best hardware, best EVERYTHING(350$ bLURAY PLAYER INCLUDED :) In the end Microsoft is obviously who doesn't satnd a chance. They just don't, and 360 WILL BE DEAD IN A COUPLE YEARS. MAYBE 3. Doubt it. PS3 is a 9-10 year investment and all publishers know it. DUUURR. The price is being negotiated and we are all gonna get the deal of our lives. All I know is I got tricked in the hype...into to buying a 360 over a PS3 because I listened to poeple(that owned a 360 duhh) and got gimped BIG TIME. Could have spent 100 hundered more dollars and got everything I don't even have time to name(lol it's A LOT) and not gotten the Red Rings of Death twice! Long live PS3 and Halo3 was very dissapointing. I'm not just saying it people it really isn't worth buying a 360 AT ALL. PS3 is the one worth your money. PERIOD

[ITR]

I don't know about this.
When I had folks ask about the PS3..mom's and dad's have asked me if it was BC with the old PS2 games.
Like me and friends I have around 30+- PS2 games.
Without BC you've just got the PS3 lib/online games and a movie player.
Without BC...you might as well just get the 60GB or 80GB systems and just be done with it.
I just can't see the value in a 40GB PS3 without BC. Maybe for a movie player..but then I would just buy a BDPS300 for that.

IMO I would just trade my PS2 in on a 60 or 80GB PS3.

[dirtrider]

i dont buy a new console to play old games. this new ps3 would be perfect for me as i dont own any ps2 games anyways. oh and for the record BC is a joke on 360

[Trick Nolte]

about BC. People buy next gen consoles for next gen games. For the guy who deems BC to be a necessity... thats the guy who would just opt to cop the 60gb sku.

Most people who are buying a PS3 already have a PS2, I hope you tards didnt think that people were playing PS2 games on a dvd player.

In reality BC isnt even a big deal. Its just a perk. The Price drop is a BIG DEAL. Sony is Finally geting serious.

[felidae]

no one cares about BC. the people own a ps2 and they keep it.

PS3 FTW

P.S. do you realize that there's less and less news about the 360?

system's goin' down?

[mightydog01]

Dont kid yourself there alot of 360s that will rrod or scratch your games disc or read error in peoples homes waiting to fu%k up. thats why I own a ps3 now not stupid?....... better hardware? So i dont have to worry and can play games all day if i want is a welcome change. I learned my lesson the hard way with the 360 worst system I Ever had.

[Cwalat]

If u have an IQ of -50 then you will think the BC matters in the 40GB version....

if u REALLY want BC then just buy the 60GB version... ( price cut )

If you are new gamer = 40GB version ( cheapest one )
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The sony company just made a huge step by releasing a new 40gb for the new gamers that want an affordable price.. Is That a bad thing ???

And they also cut the price of the 60GB version for those who wanted little bit more...
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I bought my PS3 the first day it came out, because i knew and still know that the PS3 is something that the 360 'll never be... FUTURE PROOF !!!

U really must be dumb to think that the 360 has more to offer than the PS3.... Lack of library ?? dudes Think AGAIN....

360 = 1 year head start....
PS3 = look at the games for this holiday season ( 2008 = MGS4, Final Fantasy, KILLZONE 2(got chills there) )
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IF U HAVE ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, U HAVE TO BE RETARD !
psn: Cwalat

[Guitarded]

why the hell do you want more!