PS3 in Trouble?

The PS3 might be in even more trouble and IGN went to find out why!

[The Real Deal]

Wow. Just what I told eveyone. Initially they wanted to ship 6 million by May. Now it looks like they will be lucky to ship 3 million. WOW. Thats a big blow. The less Ps3's in the stores and the more next gen games exclusive or timed exclusive for the 360 is going to really hurt SONY. All because they wanted to push their formatt onto consumers. WOW...By the time ps3 ships 3 million there will be 13 to 15 million 360's shipped. And Gears of War, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and much much more.

[shoota33]

It is just unbelievable how much of an xbox fanboy you really are.

[shotty]

Gametime, I don't see anything wrong with what he wrote. An Analyst wrote this, it's not like he made the thing up. Think about it, if sony loses atleast $200 per console and mulitply that by 6 million consoles sold be march 2006 then thats a $1.2 billion dollar hole (in 1 quarter)for sony just to make the systems. This does not include assembly, wages to workers, advertising and others cost to get the system to retailers.

I fully see sony scaling back the ps3 productions until they can get the costs down. Don't worry gametime they did the same with the ps2 (though it was a smaller lose per console) and they managed relatively fine during launch.

Samething with Xbox 360, though microsoft wasn't worried about cash, they got screwed with 2 different speeds of memory so they had to sort them out during launch which is why they had relatively few consoles during the launch window but they have recovered nicely and are almost at full production to ready for the holidays.

The ps3 will also surely run into component shortages too just like the xbox 360. It takes 1 part in the thousands to halt production.

[zypher]

i don't think gametime was commenting about the article itself, but rather the real deal's response to it.

[Schmitty07]

Real Deal seems like a PR for Microsoft, always making speeches about 360

[BIadestarX]

Yeah.. sony is dying!.. just kidding..! hehe

[zypher]

this is an unverified report. not saying that its true for false; but until i hear more i'll take it with a grain of salt.

[Thugbot187]

LOL Sony fans really crack me up. If you want fact go look at Sony's stock. The worth of the stock did fall. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to read the loss of percentage.

[ironwolf]

rather than CNBC Financial, your waiting for PS3 Users.com?

[zypher]

no. i'm waiting for a statement from Sony, who would know more than anyone the manufacturing capacity of its product. i'm waiting for an actual release of the PS3, that way i can see unequivocally whether or not its true. i have plenty of PS2 games, and a few 360 games to tide me over while i wait

[andy capps]

No, he's waiting for this.. this is what Sony said just the other day:

"Unfortunately Kaz Hirai's comments in the recent GameSpot interview regarding PlayStation 3 production were misunderstood. We are still on schedule to ship 2 million units for our mid-November 2006 launch and additional 2 million units by the end of the year for a total of 4 million units."

[The Real Deal]

This was insider information...thats why their stocks dropped. Sony will not make any announcements that would hurt their launch. Investors on the other hand always know the bottom line. They have money at stake invested in SONY. You will just see. You will see at launch and beyond how many ps3's get sold. But I told everyone there was no way they would sell 4 million by the end of the year. Now it looks like they will be lucky to sell 1.5 million by the end of the year. Worldwide...It all makes sense now with all the games cancelled or not coming for another year. Devs know something we don't and of course Sony ain't tellin.

[achira]

laaaaaaaame. ms did start 69 day before launch production. sony has far more factories and there are 80 days left, so stop spreading bs, there is enough time.

[Thugbot187]

Ok for one thing you must have missed the article on this site where Sony says they have not even started to manufacture the PS3. Then I guess you missed the article where Sony said they would launch with 6 million PS3, split across USA and Japan mainly. No I just think your failing to read that because they have lost so much money they do not have the funding to keep there self alive while taking the lost for manufacturing the PS3 which overall will cut down on there ability to produce the numbers of PS3’s that they wanted. But I’m guessing you will fail at reading this also.

[kingboy]

this guy dreams and sleeps ps3..he calls out ps3 than any sony or microsoft fanboy..wow!just buy the console in secret,we wouldn`t even know lol!

[DC RID3R]

the WHOLE sony H.Q is in complete dissarray!!!!

LISTEN GUYS!!!!!
when you've got a 3ft midget as your boss, you'll never know whether your coming or going!!!!!

THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

MINI ME!?!?!?!!?

CAN YOU IMAGINE WORKING FOR MINI ME!?!?!?!?

ENOUGH SAID!!!!

shogun

[Bill Gates]

This is great I love reading “The TRUTH” from the REAL DEAL…..he’s the man…He ALWAYS says it like it is…hahahahaha

Give it up man,….everyday you come on this site, and everyday you make yourself look more and more like an AS5. Coming here telling people lies and posting real pictures and claiming that they’re real 360 graphics….hahahhaaha You’re P A T H E T I C ! ! !

No matter how much you like to hate on Sony, you know damn well you’ll be in line on launch day to buy one, and don’t you dare tell me otherwise, YOU LOSER!!…hahahaha

[Islandkiwi]

It's investors. And Sony was asked about it, they refused to comment.

Maybe Sony would be better off postponing until Feb/March. That way they'd have more consoles ready, and more games.

[bohemian 23]

Wow Bill you are a complete moron. Any time anyone brings up something about Microsoft you bash it. I think you have some pent up rage that your crappy PS0 is gonna bomb. Don't be mad at Microsoft for giving you the choice to upgrade to Hd. You may say they ripped people off but I will glady pay less for a console for the features I want. How many people are actually going to go replace there entire DVD collection with Blu Ray. DVD's have only been in the main stream for about 6 years. I highly doubt most people will be fooled by Sony's last ditch effort to dig themselves out of there grave. P.S. Bill your a little a$$hole writing posts from your parents computer in the basement. So of course they will probably be buying your console in witch case your small opinion is pretty much meaningless.

[The Real Deal]

Kryptonite to Super Man. Notice how DJ,Jin,Truth,Gametime, and a few others are suddenly "HUSH". Its so much more peaceful now on the sony side of this news site. The truth can have that affect. Thanks Microsoft for giving us next gen now. And continueing to lead the next gen market in sales, and innovation. Jump In. BTW, Next Gen Madden is Fantastic. Everyone should try it if you haven't already. Saints Row next Week. YES ....

[andy capps]

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[andy capps]

You are pathetic. There's a reason not as many Sony fans post in your ridiculous threads, it's pointless. You, theMART, and other Xbox fanboys will come along and talk about PSZero, you can have next gen now for $200 cheaper, etc.. what's the point, it's like talking to a brick wall. A brick wall that shouts the same thing over and over to you, however.

[The Real Deal]

What if Sony decided to go with the DVD9 instead of blu ray?

What if they decided to go with a 3 Power PC proccessors instead of the unstable,low yielding Cell?

And what if the ps3 costed 300 to 400 dollars?

Would they have launced on time with more ps3's to market than 3 million by May 2007?

Would the die hard sony fans and many others get it at a higher rate?

Would the ps3 exclusive games still be next gen?

Cell and Blu ray are the death of SOny's reign at being number one with consoles. They put too much into being innovative with brand new un tested tech at high costs and low yields. Not smart business sense. Even if they could manufacture 6 million like they wanted. With all that new unproven tech involved...its bound to have malfunctions at an alarming rate once people got them home. Its sad to see a company that once dominated dissipate to the laughing stock of the gaming world. lol...lol...lol

[The Real Deal]

If indeed the ps3 only ships 3 million consoles by May of next year. And the 360 sells 13 million in that same time period. With a 10 million console lead and at least 24 million xbox owners bound to upgrade eventually to the 360. How long will it take Sony to catch up to the lead that MS has built? Keep in mind the manufacturing problems they are obviously having with the many intricate parts involved in making the ps3. The 360 launched in 2005. In 2007 its likely to have a 10 million console lead. 2 years into the life. With 3 years left in its life cycle...how long till sony catches up? By the time the xbox 720 launches? When the price drops to 199? Can anyone else see what I see? I see Sony making some big mistakes this time. Mistakes that will cut severely into Sony's Market share. Is it fanboyism or is it common sense? And only Sony is to blame. I don't have anything against Sony Fans. They are the ones that suffer ultimately in the end. I feel bad for sony fans. Most Sony fans have to wait till late 2007 to enjoy what MS fans have been enjoying for 2 years. Thats not fair and its bad business on Sony's part.

[ACE]

heavily agreed REAL DEAL

[andy capps]

^Of course you agree. You and him are some of the biggest Xbox fans on this site.

The Real Deal- Don't act like you actually care about Sony or their fans, it's obvious that you're an Xbox fan and only listen to analyst speculation, when Sony has come right out and said they're still on target to launch with 2 million units, ship an additional 2 million by end of 2006, etc. You're talking about Sony having problems shipping consoles but they have much more manufacturing capacity than Xbox 360 had for their launch which was plagued by shortages and falling short of their forecasted launch figures.

And to your talk about unproven technologies, did/do you criticize the unified shaders in the Xbox 360 GPU? That was a very unproven technology at the time, some still think that they're not as good as having dedicated shaders. Did you criticize the Xbox Live service when it was launched for being too risky when MS had put so much money into the product? My whole point in all of this is, take off your green tinted Xbox fan glasses and at least wait until you've played some PS3 games before making all of these ridiculous comments. And for the love of God, please stop saying lol... lol...lol....

[AuburnTiger]

"With 3 years left in its life cycle"

That is a very interesting statement to make.

[ApocalypseShadow]

it's obvious where his allegiance lies.if a person claims he had 4 xboxs,6 360s and not once mentioned how many ps2s he has had,then there is bias on his part.most likely coming off of being a pc gamer.which microsoft's systems duplicate.then in the end of his bio has nothing good to say about the ps3."i'll buy it,but if it fails,whatever"is his thinking.but that's his right.i talked to my friend the other day.he started out with pc.then moved to xbox and talked about how good it was.and it was.but he didn't have a ps2.he always talked about halo and morrowind.games that were like halflife and everquest and ashron's call.he spoke daily about it.but i told him to just try devil may cry,gran turismo 3,etc.then the gamer came out and bought all the hot games on ps2 as well as xbox.we both continued finding rare dreamcast games that were still coming out in japan.but now that he has a 360,he's quoting everything bad that he has read about ps3 from sites like this.not once did he mentioned anything positive.all systems have POSITIVE and NEGATIVE about them.it's the games that count.also,a person is measured by the news he puts up.how many positive news articles has he put up besides negative?if they aren't even,then you know.so if your a sony gamer,take what he says as if it was a grain of dust.eventually it will blow away and not be thought about because there's always something new around the corner.if your just a gamer,then you know you'll be playing them all anyway.and what people say about consoles won't mean anything to you.game on.

[The Real Deal]

Yeah consoles have a life cycle of 5 years. Sony is the only company that trys to milk the old gens for every penny they can. I don't knock them for that. But Tech changes rapidly. So in 5 years I want a new console with new specs. I don't want to be playing old tech in the future. But to each his own.

[AuburnTiger]

So when I decide to buy a 360 in 2007 to get Halo 3, I might as well wait 2 more years to buy the 720, right?? Because apparently if I were to buy the 360, 2 years later it will be dead in the water do to lack of support from MS. The only smart thing to do is to buy the system at launch and that was almost a year ago.

[The Real Deal]

True. But I don't make the news up and I blame Sony for their Major Critical Mistakes this next Gen. I could vote the President of the United States in office. But through his years if he continually makes bad choices I have the right to be vocal about it. I loved the original playstation. ITs one of my all time favorites. But I didn't like the ps2 and the ps3 is looking bad thus far. But i won't say it will suck. I will wait, play it, and judge from there. Don't take my concerns with Sony as bashing. I'm just being honest.

[ApocalypseShadow]

what positive news have you posted about ps3?don't just leave it to someone else since you're one of the biggest news finders.try finding those.

[The Real Deal]

I have commented positive on certain news for the ps3. It has been far and few but I have. I haven't posted any positive news but every day I search diligently for some. And when I do find something, its already pending by someone else. Its hard Shadow. There isn't much postitive news out there for the ps3. But as a whole, I disagree with blu ray being pushed in the console and I have my doubts about the Cells capabilities with games. I understand it has amazing floating point tech...but I have read too many articles about how that is only a small part of game code. and then I have read sony say themselves that its optimal for hd streaming which goes with what MS people are saying. The Cell is best suited for hd video streams and not game code. Ps2 was good at floating point as well but it didn't compare to the original xbox. I'm not saying it is going to suck. It will have great games at some point. Developers will learn and take advantage of the ps3. But it cost too much for most gamers, and blu ray isn't necisarry for next gen games. If high tech computers can do cutting edge games with dvd9 drives. Then next gen consoles can too. I hope that clears up my stance in this next gen console war. I could care less who sells more and which has better games. We won't truly know till all the systems are on the market, then we can compare graphics/gameplay/ect.....

[djsimo]

btw ps3 is goin to have a 10 year life cycle this time around and 360 a 6 year life cycle cus it's been out already for 2 years.!!!

[Ken Kutaragi]

Then my POS3 will have to deal with an even greater Microsoft Technology....The Next XBOX... *shivers uncontrollably* Hopefully I am not employed with Sony at that point...

[The Real Deal]

lol

[LAWMAN]

Wow, what it must be like to be a big MS fanwhore. Looking for speculative stories, trying to convince people not to buy a PS3 because I lack the self-esteem. Also, to realize that I could stick to my own good system that I like, but instead I feel threatened by good competition (even though good competition is good for all consumers).

Wow, what it must be like in the paranoid world of fanwhores . . .