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PS3 hacker reveals Sony’s three step “epic save” fix

Gamer.Blorge writes, "A notorious PS3 hacker has commented on Sony’s latest firmware update to fix the piracy issue on the console. Apparently the company has a broad overarching strategy that may be an “epic save.”"

Gamer.Blorge writes, "KaKaRoToKS recently tweeted that he believes Sony is implementing a fool-proof three step solution which should completely fix the exploit discovered by the hackers."

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Nitrowolf25185d ago (Edited 5185d ago )

and they said it could never be fixed
unhackable? nothing is, but i bet it will be some time now before they can actually hack the FW again. They still haven't done it with 3.56 and that's been out for some time now.

so where are all those people who said Sony can't patch this up because it would render all past games useless?

I agree with KaKaRoToKS statement, people (Hackers) should be fine with what they have. No reason for them to be online ruining the community.

MintBerryCrunch5185d ago

the problem is that the patches that they have implemented so far since 3.55 should have been done when the console launched....to have such a huge security flaw only took away from making ACTUAL firmware updates that bring new features to the console, instead of security patch after security patch

insomnium25184d ago

Well we did get cloud savings just now didn't we?

ksense5184d ago

god I still remember those days when so many people were laughing at Sony and kept taunting that they can't do anything about it and that it cannot be fixed via software update and needs a hardware revision and they should start looking to bring the next console lol. This should be a slap in their faces lol

FailOverFail5184d ago

Well you need to remember the only way they broke the PS3 is because they stole a key to "open up the system". So Sony couldn't have anticipated this that far back. They have a track record of what, 4-5 years of the PS3 being completely secure? Then suddenly someone is reported to have stolen a certain "key to the PS3" of sorts and the PS3 is hacked.

And I'm not going to lie, after playing some PS3 games online, I'd much rather get this problem out of the way first before they add any new features. But look, Sony went above and beyond and gave us Cloud Saving when they could have just pumped out a security FW update instead.

Btw, if you had a brain you would know to blame the hackers for Sony having to push these updates. If they avoided hacking the PS3, we wouldn't need them.

sikbeta5184d ago

@Mint

The important thing is that Sony could fix this, also there goes the hackers with their arrogant attitude like that failoverflow group talking about fail and flaws and how Sony would never be able to fix this and stuff, but they couldn't go far into hacking by their own "merits", if the root-key or whatever wasn't stolen in first place, they sure would be trying with no success :P

MaxXAttaxX5184d ago

These people need to get a life.

Istanbull5184d ago

GLORY TO SONY, GLORY TO HELGHAST, DEATH TO THE ISA!

rbrtchng5184d ago

Yeah MintBerryCrunch! Every single piece of technology should be released absolutely hack-proof. Sony's stupid for creating the ONLY piece of tech that was hack-able.

/sarcasm

KillerBBs5184d ago

Hey! I didn't give you permission to use my kids photo.

DAS6925184d ago

Let's not forget... it took hackers all the way until 3.55 to get it right, and the system is well above maturing now... so it's not like it's something they knew about the whole time... thus the term "patch".

Amplitude5184d ago

*reads MintBerryCrunch's comment"
*Sigh*

*reads KillerBBs comment*
lol. damn that was unfunny xD
*Closes browser*

Lawliet5184d ago

Believe it or not failoverflow or geohot probably ain't the first to discover the exploit. I certainly believe that there are other groups already successfully cracked the PS3 way before them, but just like every professional hackers they just want to sharpen up their skills not start up a damage control or a fame whore. IF you truly call yourself a black hat you should have know the first oath! Never reveals urself in public!

failoverflow and geohot might have an extend of technically knowledge, but they lack common sense.. Revealing themselves through youtube, posting their conference and lame raps saying WE HACK THIS NOW WHAT YOU GONNA DO?! Think about it in first place they hacked it simply for a lame excuse cause they want their OtherOS back, like wut?! They are just bunch of childish brats.. These people won't go far..

JackBNimble5184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

Let's just hope that what KaKaRotoks says has some merit....I've had enough of these so called hackers and all the BullShit they've caused.

what's the point anyway in hacking/cracking the ps3 when you can do so much more on a pc?

OneSneakyMofo5183d ago

Just like the 360 was so secure at the beginning of their console launch... oh wait.

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Tony-Red-Grave5184d ago

what i love is how when sony gave them the option of either updating their ps3s or staying a FW back without the ability to access psn they strted trying to hack it but now they have that same option and their scared. all this could've been avoided in fact they contridict the reason to have even hacked the ps3 at all.

think about it they wantd OS they could've kept and ran homebrew there and have been in the same situation as now only less suing because with this sony has f'd them up.

rbrtchng5184d ago

I agree. If hackers really weren't trying to pirate and just wanted to homebrew and people actually only wanted that, then they would've have tried to exploit the OtherOS for piracy, and the OtherOS would be an awesome feature with tons of homebrew features, and these hackers would still be able to play on the PSN.

Tony-Red-Grave5184d ago

in case no oine understood what i ment il clear it up abit :)

if we look back at when sony removed OS they had given users two options: keep OS but lose the ability to go play on psn or update and lose OS but in return you can game online. well if hackers hadn't tried to hack the ps3 the users who bought a jailbreak wouldn't need one instead they'd be running their games off OS like originally intended.

now if we look back a few articles they said, failoverflow as well, they didn't care about online gaming they only wanted homebrew and OS when they could've just not updated and kept both without having any problems what so ever with sony. no instead they hacked the ps3 released the jailbreaks got sued for it got fined, im prety sure they didnt release OS, got noobs on psn ruining everyones online experince and pirated games.

oh aside from that they tried to hack themselves back onto psn and would've used a brand new ps3s console ID to do it. as youu guys see they onlyu did what they did for the same reason geohot did, mind you he took most of the credit in the end, their all attentiom whores.

SoapShoes5184d ago

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable. ;)

miyamoto5184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

so you mean any hack can be hacked also?

Hackers vs. Hackers

wow this world is going to be pretty set for Hacked Life!

tacosRcool5184d ago

hacking on a console ruins the experience for all, including those who have nothing to do with it

Electroshocked5183d ago

LG and now this, looks like Sony is having a great year so far.

SephireX5183d ago

@FailOverFlow
Take off your fanboy goggles and think. Sony made it possible for the root key to be extracted by the softweare they included in the PS3 at launch. That being the OtherOs feature. The key was not stolen. It was found. Hackers are going to hack and take advantage of loop holes. Thus, it is Sony's fault that the PS3 was hacked. They shouldn't have included the OtherOs feature in the first place but they did and have paid the price. A lot of people will stay offline and pirate costing devs money. That wouldn't be the case if Sony didn't include OtherOS. Its as simple as that.

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OGharryjoysticks5184d ago

So if it's fixed what does this mean for Geohot since his hack is no longer aplicable?

theonlylolking5184d ago

It has already happened so it still counts.

RedDevils5184d ago

so if he won, or if he free to go, the hacker scene will be back to square one lol

TABSF5184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

Very good for Sony.

One thing is for sure though, no software ever written is 100% secure.

And why are the mentioning piracy, these people cracked PS3 for running Apps and experimentation (Jailbreak) not gaming.

These guys probably have kickass PCs, why would they want or need to play PS3 games.

@ kesense

Well there is over 20 Million PS3s that are on version 3.55 or earlier.
Also Sony has implemented a hardware measure for extra protection, why wouldn't they.

Mmmkay5184d ago

20 million ? who's ass did you pull that out from?

TABSF5184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

Fail0verflow's ass :)

Don't go there its gets really messy... :/

dead_eye5183d ago

The article mentions piracy. It says the first CF ever released was to copy games.
"KakARoToKS is a notorious PS3 hacker known for releasing the first custom firmware after the console was hacked. The custom firmware allowed others to pirate games on the console, which has become an uphill cat and mouse chase between Sony and the hackers."

No OtherOS just piacy.

Istanbull5183d ago

how the f*ck do u know there are 20 million PS3s on 3.55 or earlier?

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable.

littlebigmarcpsps35184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

LOL
yet after 2 weeks
people will crack it
its not 100% secure this is just for 3 or 4 weeks
PS3 fanboys here can kiss SONY ass all they want

jut4205184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

Right because the main hacker on the scene just said Sony secured it and he is not going to try to hack this

Mmmkay5184d ago

why is 3.56 still not hacked ? it's been more than 2 weeks... ? effing troll!

RedDevils5184d ago (Edited 5184d ago )

@Mmmkay because the 3.56 is the same shit as the 3.55, it's basically useless, unless they can't find a way to hack the 3.60 they will probably hack the 3.56 in about a month from now

annus5184d ago

@Mmmkay

Why would they hack it? What new feature did it add? Oh that's right, nothing.

There were ways to bypass shit and connect to PSN with 3.55, so it was pointless updating to the newer firmware that did nothing.

awesomeperson5184d ago

Can I ask...

Why do you WANT the PS3 to be hacked? Do you pirate or simply a fanboy?

Its better for all of us if these hackers GTFO even if they claim its for homebrew of course people will use it to hack, cheat and make other people miserable (MW2) and of course pirate games.

Not to mention Sony has to pour money into fixing hacks which could be used for other things.

buckley5184d ago

3.56 has already existed for more than 2 weeks, my friend, and is not hacked.

The PS3 existed for 4-5 completely hack-less until the "key" was stolen.

No "key," no hack. Apparently they've managed to build a pretty darn secure console.

Orionsangel5184d ago

Yeah well you can kiss hacker ass all you want. This isn't about kissing the ass of any particular company. It's about being able to play games on a secure service without having these asshole hackers fucking around with it. Such as cheating in COD and getting free trophies and banning who ever they want. Mess with the console all you want, but lay off the service!

SSKILLZ5184d ago

Wow wow wow ! Who let you out of the cage.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor6d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv726d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv726d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv725d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr6d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation6d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde5d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z5015d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer3d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing696d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave6d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit6d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno6d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit6d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay6d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv726d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos6d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania6d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox6d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj6d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted6d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit6d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow16d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania6d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox6d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning776d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango6d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning776d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit5d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning776d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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PS5 shipments top 77.8 million

PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.

italiangamer6d ago

Perfectly in line to reach 100 million by March 2026.

Profchaos6d ago

Theys have to clear 22.2 million to do this.
When you average out the current number over 5 years it's unlikely.

If the console was going down in price it would be possible but they have not been able to reduce the cost in fact it's gone up so this is working against them.

gta Vi has also been pushed out of the financial year and there's likely millions of GTA v players still on ps5 that have not made the jump those players would for GTA vi

The overall poor market conditions and uncertainty doesn't fill me with confidence trade war, weak yen and the ongoing cost of living crisis. We're not talking core gamers picking up a new system were talking gamers who wait for the back 9 to enter a new generation.

I think 2027 they will but 100 not this year.

italiangamer6d ago

They will reach 100 million during 2026.

S2Killinit6d ago

It might actually get a boost considering that even the PS5 PRO is currently cheaper than the series x. This will of course be over soon as Im expecting a price hike for the PRO.

Travesty6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I know Sony said they are considering raising prices.. Well as of yesterday China and the US lifted their tariffs standoff. At least for 90 days until they can agree on a trade deal that would benefit both parties. So with manufacturing in China and shipping them to the US I’m hoping it will not affect the prices.

Although I kind of doubt Sony will top 100 million since GTA 6 will be releasing next year by March. Could be wrong and I’ll be glad to be.

Xbox shooting itself in the foot or more like nailing their own coffin with rising prices. Hopefully Sony will stay put.. Ghost of Yotei is releasing for $70 still so that’s a god sign hopefully.

senorfartcushion6d ago

Is this a good thing for someone with no shares in Sony stock?

italiangamer6d ago

More PS5 on the market = higher chance of getting even more games.
It's not rocket science.

gold_drake6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

very nice.
in almost 5 years too.
some big hitters are yet to come

badz1496d ago (Edited 6d ago )

come on...don't say that! that slogan "Greatness Awaits" is haunting me everytime someone says this and yeah...1st party output has not been a highlight this gen which is a huge bummer! personally, I would rate their 1st party output this gen 4/10!

gold_drake6d ago

to be honest, when i typed it out, it did sound like a slogan for that ha