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Bizarre Timing - Is PGR4 Doomed to Fail?

What now for PGR4? Gameplayer examines the fallout from the Activision announcement regarding the purchase of developer Bizarre Creations, just prior to the on-sale of their highly anticipated racer. They suggest that Microsoft may now face an uphill battle marketing the game.

"Either way, the timing of this announcement couldn't be worse for PGR4. The game is getting respectable review scores and it certainly has a solid fan base, but we've suddenly found ourselves wondering some key questions. Who will manage community and server support into the future? Will the game receive quality downloadable content through its lifetime? Can we expect bugs and glitches to be ironed out with patches?"

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sensationalized title.
ktchong6050d ago WhoDisagree(0)Agree(0)
PimpHandHappy6050d ago

but this game will be fine. Im sure MS will make sure it has all the online surport it will need atleast this time around.

all you 360ppl will be very happy to buy this game and race online.

My buddy is a huge fan and i plan on spending some time over there when he gets this game!

Maddens Raiders6050d ago

Not if it doesn't go Head to Head with the Racing King. It'll be just fine. :P

MK_Red6050d ago

The year, the battle of best racing will be between PGR4, Forza 2. Sad that Burnout Paradise missed it. It won the best racing of E3 award and could have done the same as for the racing of the year.

With Burnout gone, I believe PGR4 is the true winner because frankly, I think it's the best non-Burnout racing available.

mighty_douche6050d ago

im sure theres a decent fan base that will stay loyal to it. personally tho i believe if your really looking for a racing game, its gotta be gran turismo, as long as PGR comes out way before that it'll do fine.

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Let's Remember Some Xbox 360 Games

Luke Plunkett of Kotaku writes, "I think we all took the Xbox 360 for granted. Other all-time greats like the SNES and PS2 seem to be remembered more fondly than Microsoft’s console, which tends to be recalled as more of a thing that happened than a platform to be treasured."

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JEECE2134d ago

A Kotaku writer pining for Xbox's golden years. I'm guessing there will be some good comments here.

Uglyday2134d ago

“WE”didn’t take it for granted, M$ did.

What happened prior to launch of the One up through current day with their marketing and focus away from games and consumers. The failure of the One has nothing to do with the 360 being great. In fact backward compatibility and the 360 is about all the One had/has going for it. Now M$ is dumping money into fornite articles to try and be seen as more than they are, a company that doesn’t give a damn about its fan boys or products.

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Xbox’s Phil Spencer Talks Rise of the Tomb Raider, Possibility of Sunset Overdrive Sequel and More

Microsoft’s Xbox Division head honcho Phil Spencer is always quite open to conversations with the fans on social media, and today he went on one of his usual Twitter sprees, talking about quite a few interesting topics.

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raggy-rocket3112d ago (Edited 3112d ago )

Sunset Overdrive was so fun, unlike any game I've seen in a while. Felt kinda fresh to see something unique. Hope it sold well, it deserved to, would love to have a sequel, maybe multi-platform this time so our PS brethren could share the love too.

LifeInNZ3112d ago

They should make it one of their games for gold this xmas, I'm sure it would be extremely popular and drive a thirst for a sequel.

Mr Pumblechook3112d ago

Sunset Overdrive received a positive critical reception but sales wise it underperformed. The reality is that businesses have to make a profit, if there is a sequel then Insomniac will follow the Titanfall example and make it multi-format so it is available to as many gamers as possible.

Kribwalker3112d ago

@pumblecock

I'd like to see your insider information as to how well sunset overdrive did and how it underperformed, because I remember that they sold out of sunset overdrive limited edition bundles as well ,the October 2014 npd had it at the 9th best selling game that month if you sorted by skus it stated and released on October 28

http://www.shacknews.com/ar...

And it debut in 2nd next to Fifa in the uk

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

RiseofScorpio3112d ago (Edited 3112d ago )

If its multiplatform Microsoft won't be funding it consider that.

@Pumblechook. Microsoft funded and marketed SSOD even if it sold 1 copy insomniac didn't lose anything also they would have to go elsewhere for funding if they went multipkat which I doubt since they have a solid partner in MS.

You don't know the sales aims for SSOD therefore you can't say it underperformed.

Mr Pumblechook3112d ago (Edited 3112d ago )

@Waluigi. Before Microsoft would fund a Sunset Overdrive 2, they would have to consider the benefit to their platform for example would it drive new console sales? If they think it was a big draw then they would pay for it, if they don't think it would they wouldn't! Microsoft paid BIG for Titanfall but it didn't move Xbox One units the way a Gears of War game can so they won't be going exclusive with the sequel.

Insomniac are a mid sized but established studio. If they don't have the resources to fund SO2 they could certainly do so from investment partners.

I do get you point about not knowing what the SO sales aims were. But they were hoping for very good things. It was a well funded game with significant advertising budget ( I heard Ted Price talk about it in person at a UK event). Less then 890,000 games sales (including bundles and discounted copies) was absolutely a disappointment. It doesn't mean the game was a technical failure, it just felt to resonate with the wider public.

ScorpiusX3112d ago

No on the whole brethren BS ,their platform share's no game so no game should be shared with them . Am all for an Exclusive Sequel to SSoD .

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LexHazard793112d ago

I would like it to stay exclusive. PS4 has plenty of exclusives already.

jb2273111d ago

I never understand that philosophy...wouldn't that amount solely to wanting bragging rights? I honestly think gamers should want for exclusive first party studios, not exclusive titles from 3rd party developers. If MS would've spent all of the funds from this gen alone that were funneled towards 3rd party exclusives & timed exclusives they could've most likely started a pretty phenomenal first party studio that could be cranking out the greatest game in Xbox history. Instead these 3rd party deals typically turn out half steps & games that are known commodities, they'll be good fun but they won't be mindblowing because they still aren't fully catering to the system's strengths.

StormLegend3112d ago

Why the downvotes?

He said "Multi-platform" and even if he didn't

he still shouldn't get downvoted.

Professor_K3111d ago

Agreed with everything you said

The game needs its own franchise

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DarkZane3112d ago

Insomniac didn't release it on PS4 because Sony wanted to own the IP, so they went to Microsoft instead. However, now that the first game is released, Sony can't own the IP anymore, so if they want, they're free to release the sequel on PS4 or even port the first one too.

RiseofScorpio3112d ago

So can Capcom release SFV on Xbox One because the own the IP? No. Because there's clauses in the contract just like with SSOD, they cant release SSOD because MS funded it.

_-EDMIX-_3112d ago

Yes, they very much can and likely will after their timed deal with Sony.

Sony doesn't own the SF IP.

I'm sorry but the contract won't some how override the whole IP LMFAO! It just makes zero sense. That is like saying I can pay to exclusively use your car for life, but not actually spend the money that equals your car...it makes no sense.

Sony can't pay Capcom a lessor amount then the IP, to withhold the IP from a system.

I mean...the deal is literally stupid and laughable. That is very, very unlikely that the deal states that.

its likely for a year for Street Fighter V vanilla ie before Super, before Ultra, before Alpha, before Hyper etc lol

MS also funded Ninja Gaiden II and Tomb Raider...

soooooo not sure what you mean bud, that really doesn't mean much. 100% sure Insomniac owns that IP, not MS.

RiseofScorpio3112d ago

Microsoft didn't fund Tomb Raider, they're marketing and publishing only. -ESSAYMIX-

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audiocafe3112d ago

I love the interactivity Phil has with consumers.

DJustinUNCHAIND3112d ago

5 people don't love the interactions between Spencer and the consumers.

OpieWinston3112d ago

You got disagrees for that? Who doesn't want more heads to be down to the ground with the fans of their products? Especially in gaming.

It's good he says what's not in development so the fanbase can then get some buzz going to hopefully push higher ups to decide to greenlight it. Nothings guaranteed but it can spark some light.

from the beach3112d ago

That's not as decisive on a Sunset Overdrive sequel as I'd like ... sign it up, Phil!

DigitalRaptor3111d ago

That's true, but who thinks that likely at all?

Phil recently made a statement that his focus is on first-party now and when quizzed about properties belonging to others he has also said he'd rather focus on things they own. Insomniac at the time, went with Microsoft as publisher for a reason - being so that they could take their game where they liked. Like Titanfall 2, I'd expect a sequel to be published on multiple platforms.

Microsoft gave Sunset a chance, so they deserve a sequel to be only on Xbox, but based on MS track record early this gen that's looking highly unlikely.

from the beach3110d ago

Fair point, I'll take a sequel whether it's exclusive or not!

DivineAssault 3112d ago

Microtransactions in Tomb Raider really turned me off.. I dont understand why devs shove that BS into everything these days.. First it was DLC here and there and now DLC, season passes, and micro transactions for every damn thing.. Im not getting XB1 this season i guess.. Halo has that BS too so your looking at close to $100+ for a single game with all its content.. Screw that

frankdrebin723112d ago

Yet some people are happy to pay the full retail price for remaster games and to stream old games they already own and pay again for them. No one is forcing you to do micro transactions but still it's your choice. I take it you will shun every game that does micro transactions and season passes?

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DivineAssault 3111d ago

No but its a common practice now since some people have no issues buying into that stuff.. Games used to be about having fun and had content that was unlockable without paying.. Now devs are trying to nickel and dime people for stuff that should already be in there

LonDonE3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

@emz99
Logged in specifically to agree to u buddy, i am happy more felow gamers see how bad this hobby of ours and our wallets are being raped.

Sadly its wasted on a hack of a site like N4g , these kids dont know how bad it has gotten.
You are so on the money but allot of todays gamers fail to see the bigger picture. :(
Its truely a tragedy, back in the day we used to unlock stuff from games by doing cheat codes or playing allot, but now we have to pay for every little thing! People bang on about how expensive games are to make thus justifying the devs/publishers knickel and diming us but the facts are that games developers are paid ridiculous money per hour/per year! They spend crazy amounts on marketing thier buggy broken games instead of making a solid game which sells itself.
Compare your average game developers wage to say a fireman who saves lives everyday, its laughable.
Gaming is bigger then its ever been, the customers/Cash is there we just want good working games which have value.

There are too many sheep especially on N4g!!
Dont waste your breath buddy. Sorry for typos typed on ps4

donthate3112d ago

Halo 5 has free DLC, including 18 maps for free post release. You can unlock everything in the game without microtransactions.

Contentwise it also includes massive mulitplayer content and a huge quality campaign.

Halo 5 is almost unrival in value and content of the AAA games released until now. The only thing beating this is Halo:MCC and Gears:UE in value, and that is maybe.

I don't see what the complaint is about the micro-transaction, but hey go play CoD or something else instead!

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Kribwalker3111d ago

Emz

Micro transactions traded for free dlc is ok with me. Especially since I can never pay another cent and get what is typically charged as a $40-50 season pass worth of content and the game will not split up its user base (which was always my problem buying dlc on call of duty as the new maps would empty with every release) then I'm all for it

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A Blast to the Past: Project Gotham Racing 3

“PGR3 is a unique, next generation-racing experience where you can design your own tracks, drive any car any time, star on Gotham TV and much more“. Whilst the back of the box might make it sound like a Batman-inspired racing game, Project Gotham Racing 3 is in fact an arcade racer which was part of the Xbox 360 launch lineup back in 2005.

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colt-of-tipton3765d ago

Loved Gotham 3 and 4 they showed more innovation than most racers do today , great looking ,great soundtrack and i was gutted when bizzare creations went under.

mattritchiegspresso3765d ago

PGR4 was my first Xbox 360 game! Yeah it's a shame that Bizarre had to close, but some of the folk went to work at Playground Games who made the brilliant Forza Horizon.