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Iwata: Game Development Is Drowning

The advent of Apple's App Store for the iPhone and iPad has created an entirely new segment in the handheld market for games and other applications. While this segment has increased dramatically over the past few years, some, namely Nintendo's Satoru Iwata, don't think this is the best thing for gaming.

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Sanrin5232d ago

Interesting to consider, but I would like to disagree. Perhaps he's just upset that there's a bit more competition within the industry?

ShawnCollier5232d ago

The DS/Wii have their own batches of shovelware, but I have noticed a bit more on the iOS platform.

I think it'll build itself up as the platform matures, though. Think back to the Atari days, a lot of that stuff was crappy back then.

Neckbear5232d ago

"Think back to the Atari days, a lot of that stuff was crappy back then."

And we all know how that ended, don't we?

AAACE55232d ago (Edited 5232d ago )

Sanrin... Nintendo get's more attention than Sony, MS, Apple, etc. combined! So why would he get upset about that?

The problem is, Nintendo and Sony respect gaming! MS is starting to respect gaming. These others don't respect gaming and aren't really doing much to expand the gaming industry.

Our type of gaming is built on money! With people spending less on gaming, our type of gaming is kinda in a strange place right now. You can't really see it unless you have been following the industry for several years.

I hope things work themselves out in the end. Just keep in mind that there is a bigger picture that most don't pay attention to.

Most gamers are so into the fanboy stuff and hating on something, they probably don't know that gaming itself almost died altogether during the early 80's. Miyamoto came along and gave it new life! So I don't care how you feel about Nintendo, you should at least respect them because they are truely the ones who care about gaming!

Theyellowflash305232d ago

If you listen to the keynote he isn't upset that there is competition.

DenyTheFacts5232d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA MORE COMPETITION WITHIN THE INDUSTRY LOLLLL BEST COMMENT OF THE YEAR.
What competition? Between Super Mario and The Legend of Zelda to those half assed game that are released every day to the iOS and cost .99$? You can't be serious...

mephman5232d ago

I am inclined to agree with his comments about Apps, you really do have to look around for a quality product as there's so much crap. But it's not like the Wii is a haven for top quality games.

Stealth20k5232d ago

Hes talking about gaming in general.

Its funny that bullshit article writing like this exists.

not once did he mention handhelds

Giant_Chibi5232d ago

I don't understand your argument. I took a look at the article myself and yes Iwata is talking about gaming in general, but he is clearly referencing Apple's app success as a negative turning point for video game development. "With such competition even being noticed is extremely difficult...Game development is drowning."

Does your concern lie with the author's use of Iwata's quote? Even though Iwata does not specifically say "handhelds," his comment is still relevant to the topic at hand. Either way, it's brutally obvious that he's referring to Apple and their apps' over-saturating the gaming market with shovelware.

Seferoth755232d ago

You must not have actually watched his address. He didnt say anything about Apple at all dude.
There are roughly 4 thousand retail games for PS3,360,Wii,DS. digital games range in the tens of thousands. Out of digital download apps 92% are free apps and the rest are sold very cheap. When you have so many games out it becomes harder to get your game noticed these days. Now Apple isnt the only company to offer apps.

Giant_Chibi5232d ago

@Seferoth75
okay perhaps you're misunderstanding my comment. What i'm trying to say is that, although he is not directly referring to apple, he is implying it. Of course, during these conferences they don't normally refer to their competitors by name when talking statistics.

I'm also inferring that they are indirectly speaking of apple because:

1. Apple was the first to popularize apps for the mainstream market on a handheld.

2. In response to an interviewer who asked Nintendo about their concerns against competing against the psp, Nintendo replied that they were more concerned about Apple becoming a potential threat.

Just knowing this alone, I blindly assumed that's who Iwata was subtly referring to.

And no, i did not watch the conference. So, if i'm wrong, i'm wrong. My apologies.

2v15232d ago

i dont care if the industry crash again, im still playing counterstrike every day , along whit GT5 ,matured gamers know wher to look for good games.

KwietStorm_BLM5232d ago

Yea really haha irony isn't even the word..

kesvalk5232d ago

and this is why you only have 3 bubbles chap...

2v15232d ago

and why is that chap

Blasphemy5232d ago

"He further goes on to state that these developers don't care as much about maintaining a high value of standards, instead focusing on "quantity" to gain profit."

hahaha has he looked at the titles released on the Wii lately?

limewax5232d ago

Bad timing, they recently have been putting out some more titles taking higher reviews. Wii has had more interesting exclusives than 360 since december and thats saying something

Seferoth755232d ago

He is one of those morons that actually thinks Nintendo made Petz and Cooking Mama.

He doesnt understand that up until Sony entered the market Nintendo kept a tight grasp on the types of games companies released. Then Sony came along with a put out whatever you want attitude and he bought it up, now that Nintendo has seen this and copies their attitude it is suddenly completely wrong.

He considers Rugrats,BluesClues,Redneck Rampage, Barbie adventures to be quality AAA must own hardcore titles.

Giant_Chibi5232d ago

it's not as nearly as bad as the appstore. I tried sorting through the games section of the appstore to find a good quality title to purchase. I was looking for something fast-paced and a bit mature so, to narrow down my search I selected the action genre. And do you know what I came across? Angry Birds. A decent game, but not what I had in mind for an action game.

They also had doodle jump, bikini girl rescue, balloon popper, kick the can 2... the list goes on. I also came across Angry Bombs, a clone of Angry Birds. And this happens a lot. Some prick takes the original idea and barely changes the name and art to sell it off as new. There's too many clones to count. There's also a Metal Gear soundboard. That's right, a soundboard in the action genre of the gaming section. A soundboard is not a game nor is it action oriented, but it doesn't matter to Apple because hey, it's related to metal gear, which is a game that is very action oriented. Right, let's just throw it in there with all the other "action games."

Not only does apple allow too many crappy games on their app store, but they also lack the decency to place these games in their proper categories. None of the games referenced above deserve to be a part of the action genre.

TL;DR
Finding a good game from Apple's appstore sucks harder than finding a good game on the Wii

B1663r5232d ago (Edited 5232d ago )

I had an iPhone, After wrestling with ATT for two years where they kept raising my bill every other month from the minimal $90 to $150 for a phone bill... With crap telephone service btw... Well unless I used the dainty iPhone grab... I ditched the iPhone, and picked up a Boost mobile with a keyboard phone, and I don't miss App store apps (or games) one bit at all.

And I spend less that $30 a month on my phone typically.

True Story

KwietStorm_BLM5232d ago (Edited 5232d ago )

I completely understand your point, but with all due respect, anyone who is actually looking for a "console quality" game on their smartphone is already lost. I own an Android phone, not a iPhone, but it's the same thing. Also to be fair, "real" gaming has only very recently picked up on the smartphone platforms, so yea the crapps are always going to be there just because it's big business right now. The only games I play on my phone are little mini games for traveling or commuting. I don't have a Wii because it's of no interest to me.

Blasphemy5231d ago

@Seferoth75 and everyone else who doesn't understand what I meant. I am not talking about Nintendo itself. If your going to talk about developers not releasing quality products then why let all this shovelware be released on your system? Wii has more trash games then any other gaming console released in history. Even Sony wasn't this bad with PS2 junkware.

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai20d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX20d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK20d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog20d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor19d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje20d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra20d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje20d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac20d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex20d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje20d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter18d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake20d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos20d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8620d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos20d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8620d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr19d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8619d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2320d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos20d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker20d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg20d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake20d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr19d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B20d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

Company skipped last year's event.

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Obscure_Observer40d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj38d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.

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Nintendo Predicts to Sell 15 Million Switch 2 by March 2026; Switch Has Sold 152.12 Million Units

Nintendo has announced its financial results for the full fiscal year, alongside an update to Nintendo Switch shipments and more data, including a prediction for Switch 2 hardware and software.

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gold_drake51d ago

well, the switch 2 has two holidays in the us, thanksgiving and Christmas.

so id say its fairly possible. the rest of the world will also grab them

Abriael51d ago

Yeah doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility as long as they have enough supply.

Si-Fly51d ago

Do people buy each other games consoles for Thanksgiving? I’m in Europe and always assumed it was just Christmas where gifts were exchanged.

Skate-AK51d ago

I don't think it's so much Thanksgiving, but that Black Friday is the day after.

darthv7251d ago (Edited 51d ago )

That time is often referred to as the start of the Xmas shopping season. For the last few years, retailers would do 'black Friday' deals at various times throughout the year. While many still prefer to start their shopping in the mid to late November, others will just buy when they feel the time (and prices) are right for them.

gold_drake50d ago

i guess its more black friday, should have been more clear ha

GotGame81850d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Thanksgiving kicks off the Christmas Holiday.

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Agent7551d ago

Switch and Switch are a different kettle of fish. A sell out at launch by the diehards, strong sales, then the non diehards will be put off by the £75 ($99) games, including the stupid download cards which are topping £65 ($85). Not rocket science to work out how the Switch 2 is going to pan out. The PS5 has sold well, but games at £70, sales have been low. As game sales drop, prices will rise. Sony could knock out all their games for £40 and still make a killing selling more games. There's no denying that a gaming crash is looming.

Rancegamerx51d ago

I agree, I don't see the Switch 2 selling anywhere near the numbers that these predictions suggest or what the general buzz is implying. While the initial sales will likely be strong, driven by diehard fans, I anticipate a gradual decline. It may not drop off immediately, but over time, sales will inevitably taper.

PRIMORDUS51d ago

Not paying for something that's not worth more than the price it was advertised, which is $449 - $499.

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