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GT5 : Saves during endurance races coming soon

Kazunori Yamauchi, head of Polyphony Digital, has claimed he is currently working on implementing saves during Gran Turismo 5's endurance races.

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BlmThug4956d ago (Edited 4956d ago )

Doesnt That Take Away The Point Of A Endurance Race ?

PirateThom4956d ago

Not everyone has time for a full endurance race, yet they may want to complete the game. You don't have to use it, but it's really for those of us who can't dedicate that much time.

Shadow Flare4956d ago

@blmthug

All I'll say in response to your question is:

Have you done the 24hr endurance race yet?

Like piratethom said, realistically, it's ridiculous to make people race continuously for 9hrs straight or (lol) 24hrs straight. People have lives. Also, there's a little thing I like to do called sleeping. A 24 hour non-stop race sort of stops me doing that. There's endurance racing and then there's being a nutcase. Like I said below, not even real race drivers race continuously for 24 hours.

I think though the save function should only be included in really long races. A one hour endurance shouldn't have it in my opinion cos there should be some element of endurance to it

hiredhelp4955d ago

This is a good thing. lemans is great. but doing it for real.

man i have a child. he certanly wont let me play games when hes awake. i dont have freinds who have ps3's even if they did they may not have or like GT5. so this was most defo needed.

Crazyglues4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

Yes Please do this, I don't have the time to sit there playing a race that was 20 laps and then going to another 5 in the championship mode that are 20 laps each too, I mean Come on'

it's the only thing that made me stop playing and kept me from getting that X1..

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TBM4955d ago

i've done 3 of the first 4 enduro races myself with the 4hr one being the toughest out of the 3. had to pause once every hr to get through that one lol.

with b spec mode it was a breeze since my friend let me borrow his red bull car i've done 3 of the first on that too. the indy 500 only took 2hrs and 15mins in that car.

the save is most welcomed in my book lol.

kneon4955d ago

I've managed to finish the 4hr Nurburgring with no breaks, other than waiting during a pitstop. It was awesome, and exhausting.

I'm looking forward to the saves, they can just make it such that when you pit, one option is to save. That will make it easier to transition back into the race.

sikbeta4955d ago

Pretty much what PirateThom said, this is good for me and the bunch in the gtp forums asking for it :P

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Nitrowolf24956d ago (Edited 4956d ago )

No one (unless your truly dedicated to it) is gonna want to sit there for 24Hours waiting for a race to complete. Even if it's meant to be real, this type of stuff just isn't workable for most gamers considering most have school, work, ect.

There just isn't enough time for most people, and worst of all leaving your console on paused during the race until you come back from where ever.

Plus they should have had it so your B-Spec character can take over for you during these period your gone.

Shadow Flare4956d ago

Also no real life race driver races for 24 hours straight.

Because it's ridiculous. So yeah, this updates welcome

Kon4956d ago

I remember myself playing during 10nonstop hours just to win the F1 in GT4. Good times, good times indeed.

ugabugaz4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

If I had the time to do it, I would. I love GT5 but yeah, not happening. It's shit having to leave my PS3 on overnight.

iamgoatman4955d ago

@Kon

Remember doing that one myself just for the F1 car, took me like 12 hours or so. Wish I had as much free time these days.

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sinncross4956d ago

The best solution is a secondary copy-protected soft save.

Endurance races are exactly that, about endurance: but not everyone has the time. If saving is allowed during pitstops and is copy-protected, that stops the endurance being abused.

I also say soft-save because the save file should be deleted upon loading up the endurance race.

I only say this because of what endurance races represent But, if the save is permanent and can be copied then so be it.

On a side note, I hope this comes to championship events as well saving between races). Something like the Formula GT event is quite hectic and over 2 hours long. I would have liked a break between the event, but then I might have not got gold giving myself a resting period :)

Downtown boogey4956d ago

I thought I'd NEVER do any of endurances in GT5 since they take hours!! Now, however I might actually play the game more.

theonlylolking4955d ago

Yup, that is what I liked about endurance races in GT sit that I cannot leave the race I must test my endurance and skills. I could pause but I could not exit unless I wanted to do it over again. With this save thing it will take away some of that endurance.

Now for you people that might say"you dont have to save". I dont but knowing it is there is tempting just like in Forza 3 rewind. You try not to but you know it is there and just have to do it.

Shadow Flare4955d ago

What's the difference between pausing the race and saving the race? One of them is less likely to set your house on fire for starters. A few months ago I was looking at this very topic on the gtforum and one guy didn't want saves but said he left his ps3 on pause overnight during a race. Ummmmm....I think saving is the same thing. And it's a bit cheaper on the electric bill too

Calabolg4955d ago

@Shadow Flare
Actually, if you look in GTP forum, there's a thread of people saying how long they left their PS3 on (mostly for B-specs) electric bill cost. It'd surprise you. But I get your point and I'm welcome this feature.

joydestroy4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

no, i don't think it takes away the point of an endurance race. who the fu*k has time to race an actual 24hrs!? you end up leaving your system on to do it. i have an old 60gb model and i don't wanna see it die because i left it on all day to play a GT5 endurance race. what sense would that make???
"oh yeah man, my PS3 died today because i was trying to be hardcore and beat an endurance race on GT5 and had to leave my console on while i was at work all day. now i can't play anything." ???

i've beaten the first endurance race but that's it.
as soon as this update happens, i'll finish that game.

Ducky4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

Hmm.
1. Include endurance races
2. Add feature that eliminates the point of endurance race.

O.o?
Hmm, oh well... perhaps the B-spec driver will take the wheel for you.

Shadow Flare4955d ago

So you'll be racing for 24hrs continuously then?

ugabugaz4955d ago

Many people simply don't have enough time to dedicate to say a 9 or 24 hour race. The solution is to leave your PS3 on overnight and that's just bad.

I've only gotten up to level 33, so I've only done up to the Nurburgring 4H and that was pretty fun. I did it in one sitting although I felt kinda wonky after it.

Ducky4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

^ I understand that, but the purpose of endurance races, to me, has always been about endurance. How long can you handle the stress of handling curves at blistering speeds before a mental breakdown.

Though that is irrelevant since I shouldn't force my tastes on to other people. If some casual players want to make things simpler for themselves, then they should be free to do so.
I actually wouldn't even mind if it GT5 had a rewind feature (such as Dirt) whereas I recall ShadowFlare up there being against that idea because it makes the game easier by ruining the challenge... =x

My actual point was that when an endurance race is broken down into chunks, then the endurance part gets lost. You might as well be playing an event with 10 races on the same track.
Kinda makes you wonder why they threw in a 24hour race to begin with.

bluwulf4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

Fat,

Its an option.

If you feel the need to race for 24 hours, which no one does irl..

you can still do it.

The people that buy GT5, and actually play it... Have requested it. Its one of the most requested features.

Shadow Flare4955d ago

"I actually wouldn't even mind if it GT5 had a rewind feature (such as Dirt) whereas I recall ShadowFlare up there being against that idea because it makes the game easier by ruining the challenge... =x"

Yeah, I do think it takes away from the challenge if you can rewind. Regarding saving in endurance races, I said above that it should be limited to very long races. They shouldn't let you save midway through a 1 hour race for instance because you still want the element of endurance to exist. However it also needs to be practical and you need to be able to save during a 24hr race in order to realistically be able to finish it

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ChristianGamer4955d ago

Of course not' when people say gt5 needs this the fanboys will attack you and say that isn't realism...but when pd announce it you get excuses...see 1.1

hazbaz4955d ago

STFU and GTFO! Geez...

PS3 Supremacy4955d ago

Or you know...you could just pause the game and walk away. What difference would that be from saving? So are you going to suggest that the pause function be removed as well for it to be considered realistic? There's a fine line between realism and practicality.

sikbeta4955d ago

dude, go to the gtplanet forums or heck, in whatever article in the site read everyone asking for saves in endurances races...

PS3 Supremacy4955d ago

In real life, racers are put into teams and they take turns. I believe its 8hrs per driver, not entirely sure. So it's not the same guy driving for 24 hours.

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TABSF4955d ago

I did an endurance, it was insane

Did 6 hours, then paused and slept, then did 12hours.
Parked it for the rest of the time, my lead has good enough.

antboltonboy4955d ago (Edited 4955d ago )

thank god cant go through another 4 hours of constant racing

dorron4955d ago

Great addition! Long time awaited!!!

never_waste_a_bullet4955d ago

thank god, I'm definitely waiting for this to come out before I do the 6 hour and le mans

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow791d ago (Edited 791d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989791d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow791d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989791d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled791d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher791d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim791d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow791d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721858d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1858d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1858d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1858d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921858d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1858d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1857d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1857d ago (Edited 1857d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21858d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1857d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821858d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1858d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1858d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1858d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1858d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1858d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1858d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1858d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21858d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1858d ago (Edited 1858d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1857d ago (Edited 1857d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1857d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1857d ago (Edited 1857d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1857d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1858d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1858d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1858d ago (Edited 1858d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1858d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1858d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1858d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1858d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811858d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1858d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1858d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1858d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1858d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1895d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1895d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1895d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1895d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1895d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1895d ago (Edited 1895d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1895d ago (Edited 1895d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1895d ago (Edited 1895d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1895d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1895d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121895d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1895d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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