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How Historically Accurate Was Red Dead Redemption?

1up puts a Western historian in front of the game to get his reactions.

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TheTruth895177d ago

who cares!

The game is a 10/10.

Rainstorm815177d ago

I second that...Its a game not a history lesson.

Here ill settle this John Marston doesn't/didn't exist so i guess history wins?

BLACKBOIJONES5177d ago

I dont care how accurate it is but it was not 10/10...I would give it a solid 9/10.

DeadIIIRed5177d ago

Agreed, unless there were motorcycles in the game, it came close enough

Ghoul5177d ago

aehhhh

how the hell can you make such a article when the devs clearly aimed (and said) that the game is a combination of all great western movies.

realism or historical correct presentation was never the target of RDR

FragGen5177d ago (Edited 5177d ago )

I'm fairly sure there was an undead/zombie outbreak in the New Mexico territory in the mid 1800s, I always assumed the expansion pack was based on that.

LOLWAT.

I think their next article should be on whether or not Sonic the Hedgehog is a reasonable depiction of real hedgehogs.

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kneon5177d ago

Another inevitable inaccuracy was the incredibly high murder rate. The "wild west" wasn't so wild at all, it had a much lower murder rate than today, but then that would have been boring.

hikayu5177d ago

you know , i always doubt these pseudo-statistic that always lead to consumption of how terrible today's world is . "Afghanistan's capitol have lower death rate for children than New York" , " was on yahoo news the other day . in my Statistic class , we dissect that hell out of that article came to the conclusion that the stat was not fully nor fairly conducted . in this case , i doubt anyone would keep a close count of the western front to make any statistic count at all . many of the frontiers didn't give a crap about sensus or anything thereof , survival is just part of their life .

kneon5177d ago

I agree that you need to be skeptical about statistics, especially when presented by the popular media. But the history of the US west has been well studied and there are many historical accounts from the time period that refute the common view of the wild west portrayed in modern books and movies.

Most people died of disease and injury, murder was rare. The murder rate was likely in the range of 1-2/100000, about the same as Canada today. The US is currently at 2-3 times that rate.

cowkimon5177d ago

"...Red Dead Redemption shares more in common with the western genre of films and old serial stories than it does with actual western history."

Though I do not agree with what you have to say, good sir, I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

There's a broader theme in RDR than just that of the dying American gunslinger - the death of the American frontier. NPCs talk about it. Marston discusses it at length. There are telephone poles running through the once relatively unblemished fields and valleys of New Austin, showing its affects at large. It's a huge transitional stage in the life of America that affected how people thought, interacted, and generally conceived their position in the world. Here's an old dead white guy discussing it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

"There's a town out there, and then the federal government comes in. I think that narrative is a little too neatly sequential. When Phoenix was created in the 1870s, it settled really largely to grow grain to sell to a federal army camp down the road. So state action in the west happened hand-in-hand, rather than the big evil American government coming to impose its vision on the towns."

Again, I disagree. This line of thought is too vague.

The 'forces of government and industry' arrived slower in certain areas than they did in others. Sure, train stations and army depots made great locations for towns like Phoenix or Denver because they provided a market for various ranchers and farmers to sell their goods. That doesn't mean that there weren't - and still aren't - thousands of ranches and farms deliberately located off the beaten path. Ever been to Eastern Montana? Take away the town Walmarts and satellite TVs and you've got yourself an 1890s time machine..

So John Marston killed enough people to make Al Capone look like he ran a day care center. That doesn't mean RDR is a historically inaccurate game. The Frontier Thesis, though it wears the mask of the traditional Hollywood gunman, is the historical heart of RDR. All the showiness that comes with it is - historically inaccurate and Hollywood inspired - is simply a fun and exciting way to bring that central theme alive to gamers. Plus, the rugged American hero, the great explorer and individualist, is equally as important in that it has been found in popular American media since the days of James Fenmore Cooper, and therefore resonates with America's identity.

The point - don't get too caught up in the little things regarding history in media. Red Dead Redemption is a great example of history being done right in a game, and should be emulated in the future.

DanSolo5177d ago

...It was like a window into the past....

But on a serious note... Playing the game did make me wish that they had made the final series of Deadwood... that show was fucking amazing and it was a shame they didn't complete it!

SeraphimBlade5177d ago

I always like it when I can learn something from games. Good to know this wasn't complete BS.

Red Dead: It's Edutainment! even when you tie hookers to railroad tracks.

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darthv7262d ago

Personally, I'd rank Pacific Rift in my top 10. It's the best of the series.

badz14961d ago

We desperately need Motorstorm back. Evolution is no more though and this makes me sad

Cacabunga61d ago

Sly Thieves in Time
Stay the Party
Portal 2
Dj Hero
Demon’s Souls
God of war Ascension

rudero61d ago

2 of those games got railed through the “gaming media” during release.
Sly and god of war.
Both of which were fantastic games.

Cacabunga60d ago

Ascension is VERY underrated. Remake please!

Venoxn4g61d ago

Decent list.. I would put the Castle Crashers as well..

1Victor61d ago

Yes it’s a decent list of popular games with a heavy hand on FPS and no Warhawk or Starhawk 2 of the best games (not sale wise) on ps3.
I would buy a Starhawk again even if it didn’t have a graphics upgrade hell I would even take a new one with micro transactions 😱🤯

Profchaos61d ago

I've noticed a recent nostalgia for the PS3 and I don't get it for me it's been my least favourite generation to date and I've been gaming since the NES I just feel like the ambition of the developers outweighed the capabilities of the consoles so I remember lots of games running in the lower end of 20fps range and I remember for the first time ever actually disliking the duelshock 3 and it's curved triggers

Sure there were some standouts and great games but that's the only gen I switched entirely to PC gaming

darthv7261d ago

Maybe the recent nostalgia is because pretty much all of its games are trapped on that console. People want to play them on more modern hardware. hell... if XB can do it then so can Sony. there are competent emulators out there that can run on PS4/5 hardware but Sony just wont let them become official... why is that?

If we are talking least favorite generations (personally) then this one is certainly mine. i had more fun playing 8th, 7th and 6th gen stuff than 9th. And it isnt like i dont have access to do so... the heavy hitters just havent shown up anywhere close to those previous gens. The few here and there just doesnt cut it compared to the likes of constant good games that showed up in 6th, 7th and 8th gen. hell.... I'll even throw in 5th gen has been better than this one.

Profchaos61d ago

I tend to agree there's lots of amazing games locked to the PS3 like GTA IV or mgs 4 but then again my issue was never with the content the PS3 had but rather it's performance many other people have said the PS3 felt like it couldn't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time using PSN and downloading a game could take a few minutes to just start a download.

I typically don't worry all that much about performance I've never had a problem with games that run at 30 but games like crysis 2, Skyrim are good examples where the performance was so unstable you would never even touch the top of the frame cap and the hitching was worse than say Goldeneye on the n64

I think emulation is more than possible on the ps5 though it's just that Sony has no incentive to rush it's development it will likely be a ps6 feature if it ever happens at all.

But yeah the 9th gen has been so bad from a content perspective thats a given I see constant articles where people are frequently expressing their disappointment around the industry as a whole right now to much live service competition that sinks longstanding studios and consumes Devs time less ambition and games cost so much to make they have to play it safe.

The 5th gen was easily better than the 9th we had some all time greats crash, Spyro, Tony hawk, mgs, Mario,64, Goldeneye, Mario kart 64 the list goes on. The 5th gave us a new dimension and I remember being blown away by how much more open gaming had become the 4th gen with the mega drive and SNES was great and very easy to still revisit some of the greatest games of all time came out like earthbound, secret of mana, sonic , Mario world etc but saving our games was still not a standard function or a given so gaming was still evolving but it was very impressive to see some of the tricks Devs used like dithering to give us new experiences those earlier gens limitations bred innovation.

Michiel198961d ago

if XB can do it so can sony? I didn't know xbox had a cell processor in their older consoles, that's the reason why ps3 was so cool, but also the reason why games are hostage there and no, xbox did nothing similar even though their backward compatbility is good, they always had a similar architecture to their consoles.

darthv7260d ago

Sorry Michael... I guess you missed the obvious part where i said there are already emulators out that do this. and that is what XB is doing... emulators for OG and 360 games. Its why the full slate is not BC on XBO/Series.

coolbeans61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

The list is missing Folklore.

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