Pirates are Ruining Crysis 2 - EA Has to React

EA and Crytek are losing a lot of money due to the fact that Crysis 2 has been leaked earlier this month, and the only way they could remedy the situation is to give honest consumers the option to buy the game legitimately and not be tempted to pirate it.

[awiseman]

Give honest consumers the option to buy the game? What the hell are they doing now then? Giving it away for free?

[Criminal]

Well, at the moment the only option for consumers to play the game is to pirate it.

[Substance101]

Crysis sold 3.5m copies on PC alone as of may 2010, by now its probably over 4m. Pirates will always pirate it, however i do feel real buyers who havent been given a chance to demo the game will end up torrenting the leak to see what the game is like, in the end they will probably end up buying it.

[hiredhelp]

i totally agree alot of people forget the obvious. PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO PIRATE THIS GAME.will always do it no matter what. it wont effect sales because them sales lost would have been lost before the game was leaked .why cos thoes loss sales were going to be downloaders so eaither way. these company's arnt looseing cos they know there gonna loose few million to piraters. ever game has the same loss but they sell to the people that want to buy orignal games with decent hard money yes.

every dev pleads not to take the easy option and only the ones that stand firm and hate pirating will by there games. but the piraters will always pirate simple. been going for years will still go for years more to come. hell im 33. it was happening when i had c64. dont think doing it on the spectrum TAPE TO TAPE. CARTRIDGE COPY TO CARTRIDGE BLANKS. cd'to cd now today its ISO burning to dvd and cd's

[chainer3000]

The issue is not that it was pirated; it was that it was pirated this long before launch. it's pretty devastating to have your game widespread available to anyone who knows how to run a torrent or has an account with popular host sites to your sales figure, especially with over a month of being leaked BEFORE launch.

[gcolley]

95% of crysis 1 players pirated the game. Crytek's words not mine. this is why Crysis 2 is on consoles, again their words. i am amazed anything gets released solely on PC these days, unless it is subscription based. there is just no money in it no matter what the PC elitists say on this site.

[inveni0]

I don't think that releasing on consoles is a solution to piracy. Sure, it may make more sales, but it also fosters more piracy. Now that the PS3 is open, there's no place safe for a game. To fight piracy, they need to offer something people want. Multi-player alone won't do it.

[PotatoClock]

@gcolley

4 Million copies sold doesn't make companies money anymore?
By your logic, wether its on console or PC, everyone except Acti is screwed then.

Back to topic:
They're reading far too much into how many copies have been downloaded. Its not lost sales, in fact I'd bet the majority are people who want to try before they buy day 1. Thats the job of a demo but obviously big money for an exclusive on one system screwed everyone except Xbox owners out of that.

They should wait for the actual release before calling murder on their sales.
Though naturally they won't and will still count the pirated copies as "lost sales"

[Substance101]

@gcolley

"there is just no money in it no matter what the PC elitists say on this site."

So how do you think Crytek funded crysis 2 if PC has no money?

Its obvious Crysis 1 sold very well which is why they were able to fund and survive for so many years.

How many PS3 or Xbox exclusives do we see selling past the 4m mark? not many its a small handful of games.

[DeadlyFire]

Want players to stop pirating games. Just reinvent the way games are activated.

Every game installs with a CD Key its been the same since 1990 as far as I can remember. Reinvent that. Lock it in.

[JsonHenry]

I could pirate it right now. But I am waiting for the final build at retail.

[Krakn3Dfx]

Why would they release an unfinished game? Think.

[chainer3000]

from what I've seen from the dev build, it's pretty damn close to done. I would be honestly surprised if it was 100% done yet and just have the month of printing copies left.

[Vherostar]

exactly I dont get the point of this article they allow consumers to buy it anyway. They gonna remove the privilege if pirates stop uploading it?

[RatherHavaBigGirl]

the big question is who released it? sounds like an internal problem at ea than about pirates to me

[RedDead]

I don't understand....how are they ruining it exactly? And what is the point of this article?

Edit-- Spoilers actually...

Yeah I get that...just that the title is that Crysis 2 is being ruined

[Criminal]

It's a suggestion for EA to release Crysis 2 early to fight piracy.

[Dante112]

That's an option. :)

[Blad3star]

Yeah but do we want a buggy game because of this.

[despair]

that makes no sense, the pirated version is really buggy and that's January build, believe me, other than curiosity it makes no sense to play the leaked version. It has many graphical and texture problems, crashes a lot, sound problems and other things I forgot.

Releasing early will just hurt Crytek more than help as Crysis 2 will then get bashed and rated down for being buggy and incomplete.

[DragonKnight]

So you've pirated then eh Despair?

[DaTruth]

Also PS3 and 360 owners would get to rub it in PC guys faces that console owners have the definitive version of a multiplat!

[hassi94]

Silly idea, the game will sell fine. I downloaded the leak and it has got me very interested, played about half an hour of a level, then deleted it. I'm waiting on the demo now. If the PC demo comes out and I can run it well, then I'll buy it, if not I'll wait until I get my new graphics card later in the year then get it.

People need to stop making such a big deal out of this, things happen and this game has a large fanbase, I recently decided to delete all my pirated games off of my PC, and only kept the ones where my original copies have been damaged or drm is stopping me from being able to activate them, and am no longer going to pirate games again. Yet I still downloaded this but only for testing purposes, unfortunately for many reasons it wasn't very useful in this aspect; it only ran DX9, you couldn't run very high+ settings and it was very poorly optimised at this stage.

[Vherostar]

Erm if they would release it earlier it would have got pirated earlier. Releasing a game earlier does not stop piracy one bit. Plus game release dates don't get set because of piracy they are there for a reason and its all to do with money.

[wicko]

This article shouldn't exist. The game that was leaked was incomplete and buggy.. they aren't going to lose any money from that.

[NYC_Gamer]

millions of people will still buy the game regardless

[chainer3000]

someone like me would not, though.

[no_more_trolling]

ur just 1 person
who cares

[gcolley]

95% piracy on Crysis 1. so we can expect Crysis 3 to be console only

[Godmars290]

Funny, thought Crytech were ruining the game by overly promoting its engine as the end all be all of multiplatform engines while it clearly isn't. That for all the promised innovation, its just another FPS.

[joydestroy]

well, with all the agrees i feel compelled to ask you, and others, what multiplat game looks better than this?

[limewax]

IF it looks as good as we are being teased, and thats a big IF. then maybe the Frostbite 2.0 engine will have something to say as for best multiplat engine. And to be honest they have a lot more experience with the consoles than crytek had before building the CryEngine 3

[red2tango]

He is saying that Crytek boasted that Crysis 2 will be the best looking PS3 game. It's far from it. It is also sub-HD.

[joydestroy]

@limewax
i was assuming he was referring to games releasing in same time frame as Crysis2 and previous multiplat games. expanding the time frame to all of 2011 multiplats, i think Frostbite 2.0 and id Tech 5 are going to give CryEngine 3 a run for it's money

@red2tango
i didn't read that anywhere at all in his comment, tbh. i see multiplatform engine, not PS3 engine...

[Vherostar]

Bad Company 2 looks better if I am honest.. After playing the demo and comparing the 2. I gotta say DICE got more out of 360 and PS3 than crytek. However on PC that could be differnt. Then again Crysis was a scam sure you needed a top of the range PC but people just assume that the better pc you need the better it looks.. How wrong... DC universe is a lovely example of this.. Needs a decent spec PC and even at max settings on high spec PC it still looks CRAP.

Anyway Pirates cannot play online so how about a massive incentive like block a LOT of online FREE content.

[Hitman0769]

That's crazy hopefully something is done well.

[MGRogue2017]

Crysis 2 *IS* going to be raped by pirates when it releases.. EA can't do anything to stop that. If there is some sort of new anti-piracy.. well that's just a fun little challenge for hackers to bypass lol

game companies can't do ANYTHING to stop piracy of their titles.. unfortunately. That's just how things work.

Overall, Hackers will always win.

[hot111]

Are they?
This looks more like a free marketing for Crysis 2...Crysis 2 everywhere
This buggy leak did much more good than harm,everybody talks about it now

[gcolley]

i don't think the sequel to "but does it run Crysis?" ever needed this sort of publicity in the first place. so will not be good for the game, what magic fantasy kingdom are you from

[PotatoClock]

You should really try getting rid of that virginity someday gcolley.
Its making you act like a retard.

How many times do you have to say the exact same thing in one article? It doesn't exactly make your statements more credible, just your retardation obvious.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I thought it was only a DX9 version or something? If it's the full version I might download this and test it out. i just built a new computer and I need to test it. I still have Crysis 2 pre-ordered on Amazon, I'll buy it either way, I don't steal.

[Thecraft1989]

It is dx9 version with the settings capped workarounds are around but are limed as the version dose not contain the files needed for the highest settings. The game is still mind blowing and made want to buy game I was very unsure with lack PC gameplay vids.

It also has a fully working online mode.

[PS360PCROCKS]

oh ok thought so, nice. I'll just wait til what is it March 1st? for the demo/beta whatever for PC to come out. than i can crank up the graphics all the way

[i_like_ff7]

This isn't even news...

[Criminal]

Who said it's news? It's an opinion piece.

[comp_ali]

Actually Crytek said that pre-orders went up 200% after the leak so it is a double edged weapon.

[macky301]

Pirates are pissed off with the state the leaked beta is in,.. :)
They need to react and improve the fucking game,.. that is what they need to do. :)

[DragonKnight]

Improve the game because pirates are pissed off? Who the hell cares what pirates want or think. They're too impatient to wait for the real full game, and likely too cheap to buy it.

[FantasyStar]

Good, another website that has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Another website for me to blacklist. Is it a slow day for news or somethin?

EDIT: I realized that the writer also condemns piracy because the name geohot came up. No wonder his views on leaks are so narrow. SMH.

Let actual PC hubs handle PC news, k?

EDIT: EDIT: Lol, somebody's mad :)

[LunaticBrandon]

"Let actual PC hubs handle PC news, k?"

Sounds good to me. Like compi_ali mentioned, preoders increased dramatically after the leak.

[JD_Shadow]

Yeah, I agree that this guy has a pretty biased view of the situation and what it COULD cause. He seems to completely (and for all intents and purposes conveniently) forget that PC piracy has been going on now for quite some time now.

Even his Geohot article messes up some of the facts. He says the last PSP game he bought was Chinatown Wars, which came out a while ago. This tells me that he didn't think that there was a PSP game worth buying since, which in turn shows one of the problems with the PSP: while there were some good games for the system, there weren't too many. That and I thought the reason for the developer drought on the PSP was the whole thing with the UMD media that was being used for it. That and the rumors of a new PSP were beginning to get legs. PSP hacking happened WAY early in the PSP's life, and there were still a ton of games coming out for it (plus, the DS gets hacked, too, and you don't see any effect on its life). What I'm saying is that a LOT of factors that had no relation to piracy or hacking whatsoever contributed to the PSP's issues.

But yeah, this guy seems to be using the Crysis 2 thing to push an agenda.

[Scottyabanks]

I would imagine that the console versions are a part of their contingency to ensure revenue.

[Too_many_games]

How about screw PC and focus on PS3 and 360, less chance of hackers :)

[BlackKnight]

Actually at least on PC games have programs like PB or VAC running that stops alot of the hacking big time. Not to mention on PC that if you are in a dedicated server and one of the players is an admin for the server, he can kick and ban the IP of the hacker.

Your comment sucks btw. I could say screw console, less chance of over priced DLC and games.

But that just would be nice or fair.

[Too_many_games]

with all your fancy Graphics cards and and processors, i would think you would not care much about "overpriced" DLC :)

Another PC gamer with the "God complex" how rare!

[BlackKnight]

Wow, I didn't even say I had an expensive PC or that I didn't own a console (I have an xbox and PS3, about 30 console games between the 2, and I also own a PC I built myself).

I believe in paying a fair price. When I buy a video card that is literally 20x more complex than what is in a console, I dont mind paying 300-500 bucks.

But PC games used to (and some still do, thank you Valve and others) have custom maps (and mods) we all could build ourselves and make THOUSANDS of maps per game, and then console comes along (I still love my xbox and ps3, I am just saying its not all roses) and start charging 15 dollars (1/4 the price of a new game) for just 5 maps (and some of those maps being remakes of the last game's maps), I hate paying for something that I don't think is worth the 15 (and I didn't, I bought no map packs for MW2 and didn't buy Blops).

I don't even see how I said anything with a "god complex". Seriously, I just stated fact when you are over there saying devs should just forget PC. I didn't say forget consoles or anything of the sort.

You are the one with a complex.

[gcolley]

Crysis 3 will be console only

[darkziosj]

ip ban lawl? theres tons of way to counter that, pb, vac? never stoped piracy

[Xfanboy]

- http://torrentfreak.com/cry...

If Dice took your advice BF3 would be awful!!

[kanuck2000]

Personally, I think this leak should be treated like it's a demo. It's not as good as the final product and it tweaks your interest so that you will want to buy. And the publicity that it has gotten is priceless.

[FantasyStar]

I played the leaked beta and was disappointed that it was more linear than Crysis 1. No amount of time would've changed that monumental change in level design. However there were really cool moments too that only PCs can do. Had this leak been a 360/PS3 only game, I would've gave up and moved on because I know the final product wouldn't have changed much. Because Crysis 2 is on PC, I know mod tools will be made available and Crytek has done so in the past. Which means I can tweak the experience until I like it: something consoles can never do. Because of that realization: I'm more pumped than ever for Crysis 2 after playing the leaked and look forward to the final product not only because it will be more polished, but because I can deny their reality, and substitute my own. If anything, I'm paying for the ability to play around in the sandbox.

at least, that's my story. I've held onto my Nano edition pre-order since late Septemper last year and don't see it being canceled anytime soon. I hope that backpack can stand up to the winds.

[DragonKnight]

You don't find it at all sad that your excitement isn't for the game, but the fact that you'll be able to make the game the way you want it to sometime down the road? The fact that Crysis 2 isn't the game you want isn't a little disconcerting to you?

"Crysis 2 sucks, that is until I fix it." That's not something I'd be happy about. Any game should be great, and the fact that you can make changes or additions shouldn't be to fix what you don't like but to add to what you do like.

Just my opinion though.

[FantasyStar]

Maybe it's the mentality of a modder/hacker or a PC gamer, but I'm mostly doing it to support devs that are open to mods tools in the community. While I would've liked for Crysis 2 to be to my liking already, I'm definitely not disheartened by what I'm given. For one thing they did bad in, they made up in many other areas that makes me feel there's enough potential to create something great still. For example: whenever you sprint, you use energy no matter what. (wasn't an issue in Crysis 1 as you can just sprint in Armor/Strength Mode), so I'm going to change that so whenever you sprint: you use no energy. You also use 100% of your Energy to push cars and do OHK melee strikes. I think that screws up the idea of you being a super soldier and total bad ass so I'm going to change that so you use less energy jumping, doing air stomps, and even reduce the energy used during Stealth on top of the nano-upgrade. I want to feel like a super-soldier: not a guerrilla. A few quick thoughts after the beta. Many more ideas to come, like tweaking the FP feet so it doesn't feel like there's a stick up my nano-ass.

I see what you mean when it might seem illogical to still be excited for a game other than its core offerings. I don't think Crysis 2 sucks out loud and I'm willing to sit down and see what I can do. I throw my money behind devs that are open to the modding community. With mod tools: you can make the perfect game in your vision and give games the post-support that many other games could've had. We need more devs that can be organic and symbiotic with their community. Something console-ports are definitely lacking.

I suppose modding really factors into my PC purchases. There you have it, that's one of many ways I judge whether a game is worth a purchase. ;) Hope you enjoyed reading it. Made me think a bit.

[kasasensei]

"Pirates are Ruining Crysis 2 - EA Has to React"
Stop whining! It's the same thing for every game, why so many tears for this one?!

[T3MPL3TON]

"Pirates are Ruining Crysis 2"
And not a single furk was given today.

Pirates don't make a game suck, the company making it does.

[Krakn3Dfx]

The douchebags that download this version will be the douchebags that download the final warez version. This isn't affecting legitimate users who would want to buy the game and play it online IMO. Whether that amounts to 50,000 or 5,000,000, those people still intend to buy Crysis 2 and support Crytek/PC gaming.

Those people who would prefer to see PC gaming run into the ground and die, well, they're doing exactly what they should be doing.

[2v1]

some times i just like to steal.

[xtremegamerage]

I've reviewed it, it's a good 8.

Well done crytek, it's better then crysis.

[dirthurts]

How can you lose money on a game that isn't even available for sale yet?
Let's wait and see the numbers before we decide if pirates have ruined the game.
I could have it right now, and I'm waiting for the release. I'm sure other are too.

[NeloAnjelo]

Well actually they are losing money, because the people who pirate most likely won't buy it. Its okay to say you'll wait for it, but many others will do the cheap and easy thing, which in turn means those copies won't be sold.

The game will still make money, but who knows what the real number of pirated copies are, and how many of those could have been real sales...