The PlayStation Show takes a deeper look at the sales numbers of GT5 and finds some shocking data. Read more to see what they found.
Interesting that GT5 was outsold by Forza 3 in North America. I would have thought GT5 would have blown Forza out of the water.
Actually those numbers show GT5 just outselling Forza in the US. But either way, install base and advertising would have surely favoured Forza in the US.
This is nothing new though. The same thing happened with GT4. GT4 sold relatively low in America compared to Europe. What does it matter? GT4 went on to sell over 10 million units. GT5 will do the same Btw, to all those people who claimed GT5 wouldn't sell as well as it's predecessors for whatever reasons..... ......you were wrong. Again.
I love how people think North america is only the u.s. Canada loves the GT series, after all its been at every car show I have ever been to for the last 15 years. I have never ever seen fortza at a car show unless it was in a custom install that was losing to one of my installs. edit. OH YEAH, don't forget to go to the Toronto autoshow this week to post a fast lap time at the GT5 booth to have a chance at the grand prize.
And what's the point of this article? All it shows is Europeans like GT more than North America. This isn't news. European sales of GT4 creamed NA sales of the product. I've got to say, something this illustrate is just how out to lunch VGChartz figures are again. Not only are their hardware figures completely screwy, but this puts their GT5 numbers off by almost a million. It always happens that way. Whenever official numbers come out from anywhere, all it does is shine a big ole spotlight on just how far off VGChartz always is. What's funny is they're planning on trying to launch a "pro" service. Maybe work at getting your facts straight before you start asking people to shell out extra for the privilege of having more in-depth access to ioi's bogus numbers.
It should also reflect Japan as well because sales wise....they must not love it also.
Fishy Fingers: "Only 24% (1.5 million units) of all copies of GT5 were sold to the North American gaming market." "Forza 3 sales, where in contrast to GT5, the North American market makes up 57% of its sales or 2.7 million units." Forza 3 sold 2.7 million while GT5 sold only 1.5 million in NA. Can you not read? Can all the people who agreed with you not read? Did you guys even read the article? Oh, fanboys.
you should take it with a massive grain of salt. I don't really know the numbers of NA sales for both games but I do know that one released over a year ago and the other about 2months ago. Regardless, if Forza3 does out sell GT5 in NA for lifetime sales (which has never happened in the past) then gosh, that shows you the power of advertising and funds dedicated to gamingsites for favorable reviews in NA. But again, VGC# should always be taken with a massive grain of salt always. Heck they have KZ1 #s as something like 1mill when it was revealed by GG on their website when KZ2 was coming out that it sold over 2mill. I find the people who rely on VGC #s do so for the purpose of trying to manipulate reality but I'm sure if many PS gamers now play that same ol' game they'll be accused of being hypocrites. Hey, just tell us what the name of the game is. Weather it's sales or quality or quantity or VGC #s or whatever and PS3 gamers will play the game YOU play and at the end.. :)
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i love to visit america but i will never live there
if i recall, gt isnt that big in USA
It's big in my sector. I drive muscle car though in reality :D
but gt5 outsold forza franchise in 6 weeks
NA does not hate GT, it always ends up at a healthy 3 million sold and GT5 in six weeks is already half way there compared to GT4 which has had over 5 years to sell on the market. GT3 only did so well in NA compared to the others because it was heavily bundled... That's right, PS2s were bundled with GT3 a lot back when PS2 was new.
GT5 wasn't finished! Its evident by the insane amount of updates its received since launch. I guess North America doesn't pay $60 for an unfinished product.
Tell that to black ops.
so lets get this straight Americans dont like paying $60 on an unfinished product but they didnt mind laying $400 on a 360 which was by far a more unfinished product???
@ MRMagoo123 $400 product that had a 3 year warranty on it. What is your warranty on GT5 being unfinished?
It was always more popular in Europe along with various other countries.
GT5 sold 1.5m in the US in 6 weeks, forza3 did 2.7m since its launch over a year ago....id hardly say they 'hate gt5'.
not only that, forza 3 is most bundled game this gen, not by retailers but by MS, directly from production - forza standalone bundle - forza 3 + odst+360 - forza 3 + wake+360 - forza 3 + kinect+360 - forza 3 + lego+pure - forza 3 + eflc - forza 3 + bayonetta/crackdown - bundled with wheels lmao heck maybe i missed some, all these bundles u can find via google
GT5 is in its infancy and my guess, this time next year the sales will be double this.
well forza isn't core its an arcade game posing as a core sim with damage stickers. now my fellow ps3 fanboys might disagree with me but i think time was a factor in the relative low sale in NA. I think it will take some time for NA to wise up and so GT6 needs to be out in 2 or 3 years. also sony needs to put GT, KZ UC ads everywhere since they are sony's genre leader but with KZ3 coming out and preorders not even 200,000 i can't say i am confident it will change soon anyone notice sony is slowly becoming more aggressive. calm before the storm, i bet i am right. E3 is going to be great
Congratulations on achieving a 1st class degree in Fanboyism... I agree that with the steering assist that using a controller has in Forza it's slightly arcadey but try plugging in a Fanatec 911 Turbo/GT2 and telling me it's any less sim like than GT5. I got up to level 31 in GT, totally bored of the grind and pathetic online system. Say what you want about Forza but the community is what has pulled me back to that game, sadly Polyphony learnt nothing from the tuning and storefront features Turn 10 implemented, 5 years in development and I'm left feeling short changed.
wat Turn 10s tuning is half assed BS. Changing an exhaust should create a different sound and mechanical changes are far more noticeable and varied than in Forza. Storefront. Why does GT5 need it.
you do realize that i am a proud PS/ sony fanboy so your first line is not offensive. don't confuse fanboys and trolls like most people (media) do. second if you like forza more good for you thats cool, i don't care and again PS/sony is where i spend my time. are you one of those "own both consoles" people AKA fanboys ashamed to be fanboys. its ok to be a fanboy you will not be banned from PSN or live, your friends don't care
Why do people, like Si-Fly, call other people fanboys to start their comment, and the proceed to make fanboyish comments themselves? I get it. You don't like Sony, PD, or GT5. You should get that other people don't like Forza. He's a fanboy. You're a fanboy. I'm a fanboy. It's obvious. You don't get cool points for saying "OMG HE'S A FANBOY!!" as if you aren't. And for the record, you felt short changed because someone told you that you should feel short changed. Usually when you get more for your money you feel like you made out like a bandit. The buzz words from the negative media convinced you to ignore common sense and reality.
@psychomantis - obviously you haven't played Forza if you think tuning has less impact on your cars than GT5, visit the Tuning Marketplace on the Forza forums to see what you're missing. @biggest - read my posts, I love Sony and tbh spend more time on my PS3 than Xbox. And I've been playing GT since the first one so I think I'm entitled to have an opinion on the lack of innovation in Polyphonys series. What I can't stand is the way owners of GT defend the game when in many areas, car handling excluded, it is falling behind other racing franchises. Are you going to be happy with the grind, online mess, and stale frontend on GT6 7 and 8?! The biggest disappointment is atm they haven't been matched by other developers when it comes to car physics on consoles, it's just a shame the rest of the game hasn't progressed over the last 13 years...
GT5 sold 6.37 million in 6 weeks. You can throw as many smoke screens as you want but facts are facts. Its a huge seller. No ads nothing required. Americans dont like racing as much as shooting. thats it period. Nothing anyone can do about it. I am happy for GT5's no. Its a great game.
kind of the same way forza 3 is heavily bundled. the 6 week comparison between the two shows which one performed better. i think if MS didnt bundle the game so much it wouldnt have the numbers it does now.
Do those sales number have anything to do with the fact that Forza 3 was bundled with 360 units? Of course a game is going to sell more when it comes packaged with a console.
i didn't think track racing was generally popular in north america? drag racing and nascar maybe but not much else forgive me if i'm wrong.
they do love the bang bang boom boom things.. ohh and easy buying guns:)
I just couldn't get into GT5, I haven't played another racer for more than a few hours since Road Rash on the PS1. I gave GT5 a good five hours of play time to see if it could catch my interest, but it didn't. I will say it's a great sim, just wasn't my type of game though. Also, the jazz was a huge turnoff for me. I spent the better part of an hour transferring my MP3's over so I could play without listening to their music. I don't know why, I listen to classical all the time, but jazz just gets on my nerves.
Did you play it with a racing wheel?
That's something I would have loved to have tried, but I only rented the game and wasn't willing to spend money on a wheel. I could see myself having a lot more fun with a wheel.
This game is too realistic to be played without one. Since its release I have put in more hours with it than oblivion and fallout 3 combined. Yet I am only 78% done. If I did not have the wheel. I probably would have given up once I got to the nascar.
You should so rent a wheel. It's the right move. Do you hate fun?
you can disable the jazz and listen to other genres ...
I'd say it's to hard for them.They like easy games just arcadish driving, bots that let u win...
they hate competition?
Who are "they?"
aaanndddd there it is the first article trying to be clever and spin-off the whole thing as if gt5 is losing to forza.who gives a rat's ass if it ain sellin well in NA.if they don buy it,its their lose.go on wikipedia an check hw many copies halo:reach sold in japan during its first week.nw does tht make it any less of a good game than it already is.oh and the whole is it shipped or sold lol plz gt5 OWNS all haters. and i do realise tht this is a "playstation" website and iv noticed tht this particular one has the tendency of stealth-trolling on ps3 software.
But Japan does hate Halo.
japan hates bad games
the stupidity of the articel is unbelievable. GT5 sold 1.5 million in USA in 6 weeks. Forza sold 2.79 million in 2 years. How can you compare that. Not to mention that Forza has been heavily bundled with even a bundle right know along with alan wake.
I think Americans just got tired of all the delays and runaround. It's hard to live up to hyped up games like that, personally I cancelled my pre order after the last delay and still haven't played the game. I don find it funny that We almost got 4 Forza games before GT5. Forza has turned into my favorite racing sim. Sony should still be happy with their numbers though, shouldn't come as a surprise when a Japanese company that seems to cater to the Japanese people doesn't sell games well to American people. Same with the Xbox 360 and their games towards Japanese people.
GT5 only got delayed once WW and twice in Japan. Where does the "tired of all the delays" fit in? @Raven_Nomad That isn't called a delay. It is a long-development cycle. Seriously, People love using the term "delay" these days. I agree about some people losing interest in GT5 being developed for half a decade.
How about 5 + years in development hell? The game was well known about for 5 years and all we ever heard was "It's done when it's done". Naturally that is going to put some people off on the game.
So, Raven, you prefer a company to just rush out games like Activision? There's a reason why you had 2 Forza games before GT5, both of them combined are half the game of GT5.
Of course it was well known about, it was the sequel to the biggest Sony franchise. Gran Turismo 5 wasn't officially shown until E3 2009 and their original GT5, Vision Gran Turismo, was scrapped entirely.
wat are you smoking? there was only one real delay for NA.. the other "Delays" were journalists giving out predictions.
people are seriously comparing gt 5 sales to forza 3 when gt 5 has only been out 6 weeks and its outpacing forza 3 sales in every single region?>
GT5 can not catch Forza lifetime sales in six weeks. Stop the press - the sky is falling - everyone hates GT5 - it only sold over 6 million in six weeks - GT5 is doomed.... What a stupid article.
I just found out why you only have one bubble.
The US are minnows when it comes to motorsport.Europe and the ROTW are car racing mad while the states has Nascar,....i mean cmon.
they are making A LEFT TURN!!
@Solidworm, Its true. I really wish they would televise more ALMS, SCCA and FiA races. America has really good tracks like VIR, Infenion, MIR and lots more but unfortunately people would rather watch cars go left over there. My favorite part of the Nascar season is the two road course races they have.
I think America just hates fun, that's why they like Forza more.
lets see.... GT5 1.5m in 2 1/2 months Forza3 2.7m in 16 months I would have to say that GT5 is on pace to outsell Forza3 in the same time period on the market.
It's over half of their sells in a fraction of the time.
Doesn't matter. A sale is a sale in any part of the world. However, there are these points to consider: 1)Higher Install Base of 360 in the US 2)More Marketing for Forza by MS than Sony for GT 3)More 360 bundles with Forza 4)Give GT5 another 6 months 5)It has already outsold Forza This is despite lower reviews and criticisms. GT destroys other racing franchises. It may be a slow burner, but man it keeps burning for a long time. More so with all the features and updates for GT5.
when it's already sold over 6 million copies worldwide anyway. Those are some seriously impressive numbers.