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Geohot asks for donations, sets up a new blog!

PSX-Scene: geohot has finally decided, after discussing the matter with his lawyers, to open a donation link to support his growing Legal fees in the fight against Sony. He has also setup a new blog with updates on the case.

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Godmars2905228d ago (Edited 5228d ago )

I wonder if Sony offered this guy some kind of settlement would he be smart enough to take it.

Not that I see Sony doing anything of the sort, but then obviously this guy isn't going to back down. Was stupid for taking this as far as he has, especially considering that he'll still be in court when the PS5 is announced. If he's lucky that is.

@jeeves86
Pretty sure that because it is Sony suing him, that if he came to them saying he'd cooperate they'd drop the suit. Of course he's not going to do that.

jeeves865228d ago

That would only work if 'he' were suing them.

mrv3215227d ago

The problem I see with this is that hacking in on itself ISN'T illegal, however if you get PAID for it I think it's far easier to prosecute. Esoecially if you can this to piracy. And as such I am donating $1 with the message; 'This is to Geohot, the hacker, without his hacking I wouldn't have been able to give him money. He saved me so much by allowing piracy'

Again, I don't pirate.

captain-obvious5227d ago (Edited 5227d ago )

this guys reputation is already bad when it comes to talking about legal stuff

the creator of Iphone jail Break
which lets ppl download anything for free from the app store

Sony's lawyers could use this fact to make him look worse than he already is

rroded5227d ago

meh who cares...
bigger fish ta fry peeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

VenomProject5227d ago

@rroded

I stopped watching after I heard the term "members of the 9/11 truth movement."

zag5227d ago

Only proves he is after money for hacking the PS3.

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FailOverHero5228d ago

I'm not suprised you didn't try reading the article/post as a whole, it is pretty long and I'm sure by the time he started dissing SONY you were too annoyed to continue. However had you continued you'd have read this:
What if SCEA tries to settle? Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted.

Godmars2905228d ago

Didn't read for the plain simple fact I'm tired of the story and would like it to go away. This idiot is in the process of ruining his life over some stupid consumer device that's going to be made redundant in a few years and it would be nice if someone on the Sony side pointed such out to him with the option of making all this crap go away if he in turn showed some sign of common sense.

Nevermind all this got sarted in the first place because he was trying to exploit otherOS.

FailOverHero5228d ago

I find it silly to say you didn't read the whole thing because you are tired of the whole story and want it to go away. Yet here you are not only commenting but asking hypothetical questions that have already been answered in the post and creating more debate on the story you want to go away.
If you really wanted it to go away you wouldn't contribute to it by asking questions about it.

jeeves865228d ago

By the time Sony would settle, he'd be in no position to negotiate any terms. Sony will purposely drag out the case until he has nothing left.

Honestly, the only negotiation I think they'll work with is "you stop now, sign your name to the line that states you will never do this again for any system that Sony creates, and we won't pound your ass into the ground financially."

insomnium25228d ago (Edited 5228d ago )

@fail

Why won't you just roll over and die already. Waste of breath.

P_Bomb5227d ago (Edited 5227d ago )

GeoHot's not one to talk about anyone apologising for good PR. He and the others hacks should apologise to everyone that just wants to play games. Why publically disperse the codes in the 1st place? I didn't need them.

F*&$ Other OS and anyone still bringing it up in 2011. You don't need or use OS to play games. It's the hackers that wasted MY time with these latest firmware patches that would never have been necessary had they kept it for themselves in the first place. Don't waste MY time then beg like a dog for MY money.

NeutralGamer5227d ago

If just Geohot had behaved more like a hacker/cracker and sticked to the usual anonymous appereance on forums and IRC... Then Sony would not know who he was and sue him so fast?

Its his own fault that each time he hacks a device he has to act like a superstar and appear on TV shows (remember when he was in TV, because he jailbroke the iPhone?)

joeorc5227d ago (Edited 5227d ago )

what you an other's are failing to take into account...an George just proved with this post is:

the consumer does not get to decide what goes open source an what does not. the people who created it does! no consumer has that right to tell any company what software to go open source!, that's what this real issue is about.

these game consoles are embedded system's they are made a certain way. you can buy the hardware but the software on the system does not belong to you. at all! you are granted a licence, not ownership. forcing a company to make their system open source is just asking for trouble!

if you want an open source system , there are plenty of companies that offer such a system already it's called a PC hardware, it's already made to allow the consumer to put what ever Software OS you want.

Game consoles are embedded system's.
they are not PC's. What Sony offered was the ability to allow the "Other OS" to be installed through the XMB in the phat. before the PS3 slim went to market Sony removed the ability of Install Other OS. george cannot tell a company to put it back because it did not ship with it at point of sale. if he wanted to keep it he could on any PRE playstation 3 slim. but that's not what george want's he want's it put into the PS3 slim also.

thus it's not his choice..it's Sony's !

forceing the consumer's will on a company is just as bad when you claim that a company is stepping on you right's. you cannot have it both way's.

zag5227d ago

I don't think he'll get much money anyway.

He'd be failing on 2 points that the judge wants him to comply with.

The getting money and the hosting of the files off the net.

He's screwed just on those points now.

His lawyer has failed him by not telling him the truth and that is he's going to be screwed.

Sony can just say well it was removed because Geohot had said he was using it to hack the PS3.

He posted this up all over the place is also on 50,000 news sites hosted as well.

It's no good saying I only did it to get Linux back on the system when it was already there in the first place working.

This a DMCA court case he has to now prove he didn't hack the PS3 and the dickhead just can't stop telling everyone he hacked the system.

He's guilty of what Sonys says right now that is how this law works, people don't understand because your guilty first not innocent.

beardpapa5227d ago

I just wanted to say that it was the hacking that led to Sony removing OtherOS. Geohot's proposal and wanting of having it back is just bull. I bet if Sony did bring it back, the hackers won't even bother to touch it anymore considering they've already jailbroken the PS3 using Geohot's method.

Enigma_20995227d ago

@FailOverHero

Why sure... just as soon as the idiot puts a stop to all the pirating that's taking place because of his "noble crusade" to bring back Other OS support... Oh, and he has to make sure it never becomes an issue again! Not to mention replacing all the money that they lost due to the pirates in the first place because of this. If he can pull that off, why I bet Sony would pay his air fare to Sony HQ and shake his hand in public on the front lawn...

What, that too much to ask for? So's an apology. Screw him, his supporters, his noble crusade, AND his article!!!

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tatotiburon5227d ago (Edited 5227d ago )

Go geohot i will kdonate, anyone that piss off ps3fanboys so gkod deserve.my money

BrokenGamez5227d ago

thats a pretty fanboyish statement in its self lol

gamingdroid5227d ago

All I have to say is:

"Sony doesn't care if what you did was legal, if they don't like it, they sue. Sony tried to sue a guy for getting his AIBO to do non Sony approved tricks, making it apparent that they don't really care about piracy, they care about control. In (Sony vs Bleem), Bleem was the winner on all counts, but the high cost of a legal defense shut them down."

"Who are they[Sony] to authorize what I do with my taxed and paid for property?
fail0verflow's goal was even nobler than mine. They wanted to give you back a feature Sony illegally stole, Linux on your PS3. It's shameful on Sony's part that they are being sued at all. If you have a problem with pirates, sue them, don't sue people who point out your shortcomings."

I'M DONATING!!! This has far more reaching implications than a simply console war that nobody really cares about anyhow.

jf3sh135227d ago

@ gaming droid,
The hardware is your property not the software, you do not have the the right to run any software you want on the ps3 the user agreement states it clearly if you read it, it even states that sony has the right to add or remove software at any time with or without your permission, they don't even have to notify you first, all of the things that people want to do illegally on there ps3, they can do legally on there pc (except piracy) you can run any os you want but on the ps3 when you click "I agree" on the user agreement you are entering a legal contract, you would do well to read it next time

hiredhelp5227d ago

tatotiburon
Go geohot i will kdonate, anyone that piss off ps3fanboys so gkod deserve.my money

well just incase your a 360 fanboy. for most of us that are upset about this it doesnt mean we ps3 fanboys.

and if you wanted to act like a child. then take a note.
IF this was ok and we rolled over like microsoft

microsoft would be in real sh*t as the hardware sales would rocket on the ps3.

gamingdroid5227d ago

You would do well to know that whatever you sign or agree to, doesn't take away your rights.

I don't care what Sony puts on their agreement, if I'm unhappy with what they do, I have a right to voice my opinion. There is boat load of crap in that agreement and I bet you most of it isn't legal even!

I haven't modified my console, and lack of OtherOS or even Custom Firmware doesn't affect me, but I don't like how Sony is trampling all over me so I will stand up for my rights.

But hey, if you are ok with Sony removing features after the fact and take away more of your rights, then all means don't say anything and enjoy your games!!!

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ATiElite5227d ago

I'm gonna make this as easy as I can so everyone understands.

He's Screwed!! Sony is gonna make an example out of this guy and I'm sure Steve Jobs over at Apple has even volunteered some of their Lawyers to help Sony.

Giant International Corporation vs. Loud Mouth Arrogant Geek = Maximum Carnage!! Sony is gonna unleash the fury of kratos on this Ass Clown. I under estimated what Geo Hot did but he really opened up the PS3 and now PS3 games are free, just like 360, Wii, and PC.

I'm gonna donate NEGATIVE ZERO to his legal fees. oh and heres a big middle finger to you to Geo Not!!

nickjkl5227d ago

uh doubt it by the time the ps5 comes out sony would drop the case the guy has already accumulated like 10k court room fees after what 3 months do you think he can keep this up for 10 to 20 years

its obvious sony knows the guy cant pay them for how ever much if they were to win and they know he cant pay for his court fees now

they are just trying to ruin his life put him in a grave he cant get out of

which is the only way to punish some one like this

RufustheKing5227d ago

I hope that this kid is living on the streets by june. Nothing like a kid playing in a mans world and not knowing to quit while your ahead.

Geoshot my boy, Karma is a Bitch and so are you.

MUNKYPOO5227d ago

I would rather donate money to Sony to see this guy lose or be buried in debt. People like this ruin gaming for everyone. We would still have stuff like Other OS and probably more features on PSN but sony has to use their resources to combat against this stuff.

morkendo235227d ago

a donation?? is he FKing kidding after all this mess and he want innocent gamers to help with his problem??? lmfao

facelike5227d ago

Sorry dude, I agree with you. Hit the wrong button

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola3d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola2d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin1d 15h ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola1d 14h ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop1d 14h ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel11d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola1d 1h ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel15h ago(Edited 4h ago)

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris3d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK2d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds1d 15h ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar2d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy2d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel11d 12h ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola3d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer2d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused1d 21h ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher2d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer2d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion2d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola2d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje2d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola2d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused1d 21h ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno2d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool2d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It will come out in another 1000-2000 days or so. I’d rather they remake Morrowind. After they added quest arrows, sprint button, making stats lesser and the big nerfs to spells Elder Scrolls has been too simplified. They could change that with ES6 but I don’t have much faith in modern Bethesda. I would love to be wrong

clevernickname1d 23h ago

Wait until he hears about Star Citizen...

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