Earlier today we learned that PS4 has been put on hold, so Sony can focus on the PS3 and NGP. While focusing on the PS3 a little longer makes sense as we've yet to see the full power of the PS3. This is an opinion piece that nullifies the rumor.
Oh what :(.
What do you mean?
I think hes like, "Oh, what?" as in he is sad that he has to wait longer for a PS4
Why talk about the PS4 when you won't play on it in the next 4 5 years.
you have to take it for what it is. It's on a japanese forum, and handhelds own the japanese market.
take it easy sony dont rush it
Isn't this a good sign? I mean, we've barely tapped the potential of PS3, just look at what Uncharted 3 achieves alongside games like Killzone 3. I want me some more Quantic Dreams games! Some more Hideo Kojima exclusives and some godamn Starhawk and more Santa Monica titles. WHO in their right mind wants this gen to end so quickly???? I say wait with PS4 til 2013... or even 2014. :D More PS3 exclusives, YEAH! Just imagine what the next Santa Monica title will look like. *faints by imaginational orgasm*
I think the idea that Sony is pushing back the PS4 because of the NGP is baseless. Sony has never had an issue with having multiple console offerings at any given time. Right now we've still got Sony selling and promoting the PS3, PS2 and PSP, just as they have been for years. It doesn't even make sense that just because Sony's developing a new handheld they're pushing back development of a new home console. They aren't even targeted at the same market. It's like saying Sony is stopping development of a new home theater receiver because they're planning on selling a new laptop. Having a multi console offering aimed at different markets has been nothing but good for Sony.
Actually I'm pleased if they did put it on hold because that means we as gamers save money on buying a new console and buying new games to get "HD remakes"
PS4 = 2013, very likely.
I love my PS3. I do. GOW3 is one of my favorite games this gen. But to say that the PS3 is still largely untapped, power wise, is foolish. Even KZ3 had to dumb down the resolution in order to "improve" upon the visuals that were seen in KZ2. If the PS3 had more power to tap, you would see improved visuals without the compromise of other aspects. PS3 games will continue to look better, but you will see devs start to do the same thing that people criticized them for doing on the 360 to get extra visuals out of it. What has been shown that is coming out that looks better than what has already been released? What looks better than KZ2? That's why I believe the console doesn't have much power left to be tapped. That's why I want the PS4 to be announced. Unlike the people who just bought their console recently and are scared they will have to save up more money for another cause they waited so long, I bought mine when MGS4 came out. I had my run with it. It's been good. Same with all my other old consoles. I'll get a PS4. Ill continue buying the good PS3 games after its out. Same thing that I did when the PS3 came out and the PS2. Blows my mind that people are saying they don't want the PS4 to be announced yet.
Instabull if the PS4 doesn't come out until 2015-2016 like you said than Sony are retarded. I doubt they would do that. At the moment the PS3 is doing great but by 2013 would be the year that the PS3 will be so outdated compared to PC that gaming on a PS3 will be like gaming on a PS2. Edit: Most of you people are seeing half the picture just before the PS3 was released wasn't Sony releasing games for PS2 all the time? Sony will continue releasing games for PS3 after the PS4 is out game releases mean nothing and say nothing about how far away the PS4 is. PS1 1996 PS2 2000 PS3 2006 PS4 2012-13 at the latest mark your calenders.
Hopefully this means we get a lot of cool stuff on the PS3 soon, like worthy updates not just security stuff. Although I am thankful to hear MW2 is getting fixed. Gives me hope.
i guess the way this is going ps3 might just be the last sony home console... owch.! i hope not thou... cant leave MS and NINTENDO to run that market... no competition at all not good for development.
I agree, leaving MS and Nintendo is not a good thing for the industry. We need more competition and more options. Sega please join the fray! With that said, PS4 is not on hold because of NGP. It is on hold because of PS3. Until PS3 reaches a price tag below $200, there is no PS4 in sight!
In response to your opinion piece, the reason they think handhelds will displace consoles is because in Japan, they already have. America is not their main focus at times, and I think when they say 'displace' they don't mean 'replace' but rather a chunk will be bitten out.
But, as I wrote in the article, Sony is an international company, and it should look at the bigger picture not just one country.
I trust Sony knows what they are doing. Beside the PS3 is heating up. They are releasing games left and right. I wouldnt want a PS4 right now. There is more work to do with PS3.
@Joni-Ice I agree with you, the PS3 has still a lot to give, but eventually (2-3 years down the road) PS4 will be released, and the NGP won't replace home consoles.
SONY is testing a new strategy, and that is Developer friendly and third party hardware design.. with NGP success ,Im sure they will make PS4 the same..using a dev friendly hardware just like NGP without spending billions of dollars just to design a new one.. and focusing more on the services around the hardware.. the money is in service not hardware .. so the core competency must a service like XBOXLIVE or EXCLUSIVES .. even with shit hardware MS can survive because of that..
"Beside the PS3 is heating up. They are releasing games left and right." Never thought of it that way! If PS4 did release, I wouldn't buy games for it because there is already too many games for the PS3 I want! Bad enough that NGP is going to put more pressure on too!
The truth is that handhelds are selling more everywhere, not just Japan. For example DS has sold a lot more than any home console in USA (yes, even Wii). Handhelds may not replace home consoles but handhelds are already a bigger gaming market.
Fahed, These kind of articles come up all the time when dealing with a Japanese language. I lived in Japan. And let me tell you, that the language doesn't always translate well because American's (and to a less extent the British language) dialect comes with it its own preconceived notions. Try not to figure out what they said (word) but what they mean. Hitman0769 touched on the subject. But let me explain what I think Hiroshige Goto means. When Apple computer made Macs as their mainstay throughout their history, if Steve Jobs made the statement in 1999 that the iPod and iPhone would "displace" the Mac. He would be correct. Because in the big picture, the company sees the spread of the mobile device as the majority of the their market; the number of iPhone/iPod consumers it extends to exceeds the number of Mac consumers and eventually outsold them. Hiroshige saying "displaced" does not mean replace but rather a shift in company market share within their OWN portfolio (Sony INC). This is a good thing since the PS3 and PS4 will benefit from this extra revenue and market-share just as the Mac benefits from a healthy Apple iPhone/iPod sales.
They are taking the right approach now all they have to do is have DS3 support and move and such via bluetooth and make it a portable PS3. HDMI out is fine. WII did well without HD graphics. The system can technically output a higher resolution than 480p so it is technically a Hidef handheld. NGP should serve a lot of purposes if it has the capability which it does to serve as a hybrid home/portable console. Some may bee looking for that.
I can't believe they were working on PS4 already. PS3 still has so much to offer and on top of that theres the NGP.
I don't know that they ever specifically work on building a new console until a few years before release. That said, I also believe that Sony is constantly doing research into technology that potentially could be packed into a new console. Staying on the cutting edge takes a lot of work and money.
I read an article back when the PS3 was released that they were already brainstorming about the PS4. So, I guess it's more than just a couple years.
I happen to agree with your statement. The Playstation 3 still hasn't reached its full potential as a platform. Hopefully PS4 is still off in the future.
When you are a big business you always have a 10 to 15 future year plan. Of course companies like Nintendo, MS and Sony are already thinking of the next big thing even when their current console hasn't even hit yet.
I doubt MS thinks ahead more than a year. Their business choices support that claim.
its actually a smart idea. the ps3 will be around for at least 3 years by itself, and supported at least 5. And the ngp will be around for 7+ theres really no need to rush a ps4 when nintendo and microsoft arent rushing
the consoles start seeing its age... , NGP has nothing with the ps4 release, I expect to see ps4 in 2013
How so? Are you comparing graphics of a $300 console to a couple thousand dollar gaming rig? Obviously PC will win but who wants to pay that much for a console? PC will ALWAYS be ahead in the graphics department but games are more than graphics and just take a look at the Wii as a prime example or even Kinect which sold 8+ million since launch. That said, current gen consoles while obviously not as good as current PCs are definitely not terrible and it certainly doesn't take away from the gameplay
We dont really need a ps4, PS3 still has power to give and more games ahead so i applaud sony for taking their time
Exactly, this year still has craploads of games to be played on ps3
What ignorant people gave you three disagrees? To the folks who disagreed, wake up and look at the PS3's release schedule this year, or get refunds on your educations.
I think they should do another slimmer PS3 instead. I'm sure they can make the PS3 slimmer.
oh yes sir i dig that. Kojima will show us
In Kojima we trust.
It's way too early even be thinking about the PS4 as a consumer. The PS3 still got a lot give. An announcement in 2012-2013 and release late 2013- early 2014 sounds plausible too me.
Announcement maybe as early as E3 2011. No later than E3 2012 will it be announced. That I am 110% certain of.
Good choice Sony, some people are just finally buying PS3s. Keep them going as long as possible
What's funny is that Sony never said anything official about this and everyone is going crazy.
Yeah, but the article was pretty thorough. I'd take this with a grain of salt as well as assume that something has gotten lost in translation. But I'm confident that there is a basis of truth, at least from what I read of the translation.
ps2 was about 6 and a half when ps3 released...if they stick with that same time frame we'd be looking at early-mid 2012...I'd expect 2013 though.
If any of you keep up with what's happing in the hand-held market you'd know that it's rapidly growing and that this is would only be a common sense move by Sony. All the latest phones and even the 3DS have can do graphics better than the Wii, and next year every Tablet, Smartphone & Super-Smartphone will be doing up to if not better than 360 graphics. Not to mention that a lot of these devices will come with a video-out function which means your smartphone or tablet will become your console/multimedia device. The NGP will probably be the only hand-held above everyone else in terms of graphics and most likely games as well. The markets changing rapidly.
You are seriously delusional if you think that the next year smartphones can reach 360/PS3 level of visuals, LOL :D
There's a reason why I said 360 not PS3, learn to read. Keep up to date this isn't 2006.
First of all, the 360 and PS3 are pretty much on the same level. Second of all, the next generation of smartphones still won't be nearly as powerful as the 360 or PS3. NGP is not as powerful as the 360 or PS3, but it is still going to be ahead of the next generation of smartphones.
The Xbox 360 and PS3 put out 720p resolution. SONY's NGP has just over half that resolution, so NO, it doesn't and never will have current console res or graphics, it is physically impossible. Please do your research first, if any smartphone or handheld had a res of 720p, then that would be a waste, as the Human eye cannot actually resolve that resolution on a screen less than 15 inches in size. And NO handheld or smartphone will ever have a 15 inch screen, can you imagine that?, ha ha.
The funniest part of this whole next-gen talk, not necessarily this specific article, is that there are always always always people coming out the shadows with talk about how X console won't be out for 3-4 years, Y console will be announced at E32012 blah blah. Nobody has even the slightest insight on what is going on with these company road maps. I think we all would do ourselves a favor by just letting things run the course, rather than setting ourselves up for disappointment, whether it be rumors or just spouting out random xx year release schedules based on absolutely nothing.
CPU is not issue. PowerPC / Cell is good to go for PS4. The GPU space is very active at this point in time. Hold out a bit longer and go for the latest tech for PS4. Maybe the PS4 will do holographic projection.
The Cell is junk in comparison to the i7. Just because we're not seeing big increases in pure clock-speed, doesn't mean the processors aren't improving as fast, if not faster than GPUs. Current number of cores are 8 in the high-end CPUs of intel, that's twice as many threads as the Cell Processor can have at the same time. Additionally, their architecture is more efficient than the Cell's already older architecture, with faster access to memory, and 3 Levels of Cache. Ps4 will probably have a radically different architecture from the Ps3.
@beavisnbighead I have to agree with your theory that it will be announced next year, I don't think they will wait out too long to announce the PS4 because we all know they next XBOX is not to far away right now. As far as the article goes I think Sony is not focusing on the next console in Japan but only it's next handheld in that country because handhelds rule Japan. My gut tells me they will release the PSP2(NGP) first in Japan at the end off the year for the holiday season. As far as the PS4 goes they will release it in Europe first followed by NA and last Japan. They PSP2(NGP) will launch at $250, yes I said $250 for the wifi only and $350 for wifi/3G. They will take a lost so they can compete with the 3DS and out preform them with games, I'm not saying they will out sell them all I'm saying is that they will be more appealing to the hardcore gamers and core game media. As far as the PS4 is concern it will come out at the same price as the next XBOX with minimal lost will making a profit on the PS3. You all my disagree with my comment but with time you will see with your own eyes come E3 this year as far as the PSP2(NGP) pricing and game list.
Although they don't need a PS4 in the immediate future, I can't say that I wouldn't be open to the idea of buying one if it came out next year.
Are you people sure that is what they said? I think the last thing Sony said was that they won't be doing a PS4 anytime soon and will be concentrating on the PS3 and NGP. I don't think they ment that they are putting it on hold or anything
When they do Release PS4 it wont be a super leap in tech like PS2 to PS3 or Xbox to Xbox 360 so no rush, Xbox 360 & PS3 will last for minimum 3 years while Wii is already outdated tech even back in 2006
I dont want PS4 this soon! in 2013-14 would be cool.
This could be a good move and a bad move for Sony. I don't think they can be as late into next Gen as this one becauseof what has happened this time round Nintendo Wii took off alot better than MS and Sony thought but the Xbox has now Eaton into Sonya market and Xbox is a known brand now so this could hurt them if they release a console a year or so behind MS. But it could also work well for them because if they say no new console until such a date then users will know how long the ps3 has left and will go out and get one rather than wait for the ps4. On the flip side I can't wait to get my hands on the ngp it looks amazing.
It would be nice to see them do some minor updates like wireless N to a new ps3 slim.
"They are betting the farm on PSP2 as they expect handhelds to displace consoles." LOL! Keep dreaming, Sony.
I wouldn't want a ps4, at least any time in the next 2 years. It's hard to believe the ps3 is nearly 5 years old already, but this generation is so different compared to past ones. This is the first time I don't feel like moving on just yet. It could be because this gen, the graphics are just mindblowing and there's the mainstream online factor. If a ps4 comes out in 3 years, that wouldn't be too farfetched, since new consoles generally come out 5 years or so after the previous console. 2013 wouldn't be bad at all for a ps4 release.
"This is an opinion piece that nullifies the rumor." This made me laugh so hard when I read this.
PS3 it enough to 2014 at max Sony must be crazy to give us a console like ps3 I was happy when PS3 release because i was sure that no console will defeat it this GEN whatever happen And the main point make me sure of that it blu-ray drive high tech = high price = best of for years
"as we've yet to see the full power of the PS3." And of course we will never officially see it either since it isn't something that's measurable in any objective way. Sony did a great marketing job by imprinting the idea of the opposite into peoples minds. The combination of creating an illusion that the PS3 is not a console but some kind of alien super computer, combined with having all of their devs saying something to the press about maxing out, or not maxing out, the PS3 hardware on a monthly basis. Gotta hand that to them.
You sound like someone with no games to play :)
You're not handing anything to anyone, you're still making bitter reprisals to aggrevate the single console owner on the other side of the fence...sorry to say it but thats all you ever do.
The problem that all hardware manufacturers are encountering is why? and how? They can go to next gen but how do they make it desirable,and not just to the hardcore? Each new round of consoles need to be a lot more powerful than the last and as the PS3 showed,super high pricing is not viable. This is not really possible due to component cost and a recession. The other major issue is game development cost. We are probably already approaching the limit of dev cost vs profit. The next gen is not really economically viable but I'm happy.The next gen handhelds look interesting and the graphics produced by PS3/360 are plenty good enough.
Screen size would not be an issue if you can connect your NGP to a TV to display the game at 1080P
They will probably continue research of it. They arnt planning on releasing it anytime soon thats for sure. And i am happy because the PS3 has a lot of life left in it. What i am guessing is when Sony starts to outsell Microsoft, Microsoft will probably release a new console. A Wii 2 will come out when the Wii stops to sell well (and its still selling) This reminds me of Netscape vs Internet Explorer all over again