“PlayStation 4″ Plans Suspended?

Big news if this turns out to be accurate. A report has gone up on a Japanese website which seems to state that Sony have shelved their plans for their next generation of home consoles. Following a translation offered on the Beyond3D forums we’re led to believe that the development of a new console will be deferred for a period of time so that Sony can focus on keeping the PlayStation 3 as up to date and relevant as possible.

[karam]

The more it takes time, the better it will be

[rrw]

i do agree with that. we dont need higher graphic for now.

it probably not shelved but simply halted. they are just waiting to see if handheld can replace console

[Istanbull]

Good news, I don't need a PS4 for the next 4 years. NGP, PS3 and PS2 family will keep me happy! :)

Honestly, I think the PS4 will release holiday 2014 imo.

[pangitkqb]

I personally don't want to see a PS4 or Xbox 720 until 2013 at the earliest. I'm thoroughly enjoying this gen and feel that there is bigger and better yet to come on current console hardware, particularly PS3 and PC (as it is always upgradeable).

A few more years this gen would be good for both the industry and consumers. It gives devs more time to perfect and profit from games and continually lowering prices benefit consumers.

[Perjoss]

Would be very unwise for Sony to let Microsoft get that year (or more) head start again. But it looks like that's exactly what they are doing.

[BattleAxe]

If you look at it logically, the PS3 is the most powerful console on the market today, so even if MS brings out the XBOX 720 in the next couple of years, the PS3 should have no problem competing in the graphics department as the 360 really doesn't have any games that come close to surpassing most PS3 exclusives, especially when you look at games like Killzone 3, Uncharted 2 and GoW 3. One thing is for sure, and its that the next XBOX won't have Blu-Ray, which means that it will still be behind technologically in some senses. The Wii 2 might have high def graphics, but for some reason I think that it might only manage to be on the same level of the XBOX 360. I don't have much confidence with Nintendo in this respect.

I think Sony will focus more on the NGP when it comes out, and the big bonus with the PS3 and NGP is that the games can be ported back and forth easily, which is a huge benefit and I think it really helps to extend the life of the PS3. Overall, the PS3 is on a huge up-swing right now with all the exclusive games that are comming out, and with possible collaboration with STEAM and having a shared PSN between PS3 and NGP.

[Kleptic]

^^ I don't know if its as simple as that...

The 360's early release did absolutely nothing to the PS2...the PS2 crushed the 360 for the entirety of 2006...and was the second highest selling console in 2007 iirc (being behind only the Wii)...

it did hurt the PS3, so I see what you are saying...an earlier Xbox could hurt the PS4...but if Sony still has very strong support for the PS3 if and when a new xbox comes out, and by then they will definitely be making profit even on the console itself...business wise, it may be a good thing...

[darthv72]

that MS may in fact stick to their word about not having anything for the next couple of years. Focusing on kinect.

Then again....it could hurt them if they underestimate the competition again. Meaning they obviously didnt think MS or Nintendo would be doing as good this gen as they are.

They should not focus on the brand recognition as much and just deliver something no-one would have foreseen. Keep it very hush hush Sony.

[EasilyTheBest]

@BattleAxe.
"so even if MS brings out the XBOX 720 in the next couple of years, the PS3 should have no problem competing in the graphics department"

If you believe that I feel sorry for you.

[DaTruth]

But I'm getting the feeling that MS and its shareholders don't want to be in this business anymore!

I think both Sony and MS will milk the $hit out of this gen with Sony definitely making another foray into the hardcore gaming market. I think MS is hoping they can be the next-gen Wii and Sony is hoping they can relegate the PS3 into that category whenever the PS4 releases!

Edit: I'm good for now! Maybe I can invest in a better PC now and get my half gen there! Eight years is a long time to stretch a PC that wasn't even good when i bought it!

[R0me]

Maybe this one guy was right about this cloud gaming... Why invest billions in a new console which gets hacked etc.

Maybe in some years you buy a TV with cloud gaming and you can play every game you want, no exclusives, no new hardware etc. you just pay a price and start the game. No Fanboy wars? I cant believe that.

[HolyOrangeCows]

"they are just waiting to see if handheld can replace console"
I REALLY doubt that.

This economy HARDLY demands a new, more expensive console. Any of the big three would be total fools to release a new home console at this time. With handhelds, the risk should be lesser, with prices being smaller (That is....HOPEFULLY the NGP is cheaper or equivalent to the PS3).

[R2D2]

Imagine if you could plug a hand held to your TV and play games next gen games.

[malandra]

PS4 will be released on for the holidays 2016

PS3 is not even half through its cycle, unlike the 360 which is pretty much obsolete compared to the PS3 or a high end gaming PC

[AAACE5]

But it doesn't make sense guys! Didn't we just see an article on here saying they designed the NGP with the Ps4 in mind?

I believe they can get a lot more out of the Ps3, so no rush on the next console. But why make a comment like that if they were planning on delaying it a few more years?

[Kalipekona]

Some of you are so funny. The PS3 and 360 are extremely close in power. Developers, engineers, and simple common sense all tell us that. The games on both consoles, despite the rantings of fanboys, are also very similar.

Crysis 2 on the 360 and Gears of War 3 look as good as anything on the PS3. And multiplatform games like Dead Space 2 look better than most PS3 exclusives except for just a couple.

This mantra that the PS3 is somehow above the 360 is pure nonsense. And the idea that the PS3 could possibly rival the next Xbox is beyond ridiculous, it's laughable. The next Xbox could be just twice as powerful as the 360 and it would still smoke the PS3 in the graphics department, it wouldn't even be close.

[badz149]

"Imagine if you could plug a hand held to your TV and play games next gen games."

I believe Sony will allow the NGP to do just that. the PSP has that feature for god sake and with more power to the NGP, getting PS3 equivalent graphic using the NGP connected to HDTV is totallt possible! at least THAT's what I'm hoping to be there day 1 on NGP! :)

on topic;

if this is true, this will be a 'real' 10 year plan from them without a next gen console unlike PS1 with PS2 and now PS2 with PS3!

[TheLastGuardian]

They said it was going to be a 10 year console. I believe PS4 will release as early as 2015.

[miyamoto]

I think Sony is taking a page out of the PS2 book.
Technically the PS3 & PS2 & PS1 share a fundamental design principle: all rely on the commercial value & longevity of their respective optical disc format: CDROM, DVD & Blu-Ray formats respectively.(sorry PSP UMD)
Its really amazing how these media formats were designed to be supported to last for many years!
If we think that the PSP & NGP can co-existence is remarkable. Wait till you see the PS3 & NGP co-existence! It will be insane! We will see a single game simultaneously released & playing on all Sony gaming devices at the same time!
PS2/PS3/PSP/NGP/Experia Play!
Yeah that is four birds in one stone!

This is the reason why game developers head over heels over the NGP & Xperia Play it opened a flood gate of opportunity for their games to reach an even wider market even if they make just one game.

I have a strong feeling that one or two years from now smaller mobile gaming devices will be leaps & bounds more powerful than any PS4 we could ever hope for.

[f789790]

Agreed even though it seems everyone wants MORE!!!

Sony loses money on new consoles and devs hate learning new consoles. The only motivation for making a new console is to compete with MS. It's a standoff now on who will pull out the next console.

[fr0sty]

PS3 is still selling very well, they have no need to abandon this generation right now. If they announce a new system before 2012 i'll be surprised. This could mean a number of things. them extending the PS3's life cycle (it's far from dead), or they could have found a better hardware route to take, and decided to drop their current approach in favor of something better.

[cliffbo]

well you know my views on this

Paul

[Dante112]

True, it only been like 4-5 years since the Ps3 dropped. More time, the better.

[frostypants]

The PS2 had only been out for a bit over 6 years when the PS3 was released. The PS1 had been out just under 6 years when the PS2 came out.

Based on their typical strategy, that pegs the PS4 release sometime between late 2012-mid 2013. I'd bank on it. And I'd also bank on them having a fallback plan should Microsoft announce an earlier release.

People keep mentioning the "10 year plan" for the PS3, but forget that the PS2 had the same thing. Just because they will keep selling and developing for the PS3 for 10 years does NOT mean they won't release the PS4 sometime within that timeframe.

[lil Titan]

i dont think people are ready to see the lines of virtual and reality to blur, people are already amazed by what we have now. to bring PS4 out now would be overkill.

[arjman]

@Epicor
I'm not a kid, I'm currently at uni, I just love saying frickin' and epic and all the like...

[ApexHell]

100% agree

[MostJadedGamer]

There is nothing at all surprising about this. The PS3 is still $299 it hasn't even hit its prime yet. Sony is not going to release the PS4 until they have recouped most of there investment in the PS3, and that is not going to happen until the PS3 has been at $199 or less for a couple of years,and sold a ton more hardware(Sony will make there money off software). We are a very long way away from the PS4. This should have been obvious to everybody.

[hennessey86]

i dont get it. Why wouldnt you want the ps4. Im seeing both the 360 and ps3 hitting there graphical limits. Granturismo 5 while a stunning game shows of the the technical limitations of the current hardware. Yes we have uncharted 3 coming later in the year bot seriously thats abour as good as its going to get. Im hoping for a e3 2012 announcment for atleast one of the next gen consoles.

[Graey]

@ Hennessey

All consoles are going to push their graphical limits..and then the developers will break them but only by so much. It's a back and forth type of thing.

I wouldn't say people don't want a new console, its just at this time a new console would not be a good idea.

Think on it for a second if you will. If a new PS4 drops:

1. You would loose money dividing the player base, between the PS3,4 and NGP.

2. With the tech being new it would cost more to produce and as such you would pay more to own. Also sony would prob have to support 2 different online models.

3. There is also a Lull between when the console is released and when games are actually coming out on a regular basis. Look to have that happen for at least a year to a year and a half.

4. Complaints of people of the console being to high. Developers taking much time needed to perfect another system as they were just getting the specs and nuances of the PS3 down.

I really think you should reconsider your thoughts on a new console. I for one would have agreed with you if say this was the PS1 or PS2 going into the PS2 or PS3 lifecycle. But the graphics and all the other stuff put into games today. Just imagine what they would look like with that kind of leap again.

I think Sony since it's the only one of the 3 at this juncture that can rightly claim this. Doesn't want to bring something out past the PS3 as it would gimp their brand. Whether the PS3 would suffer or the PS4 would they are just making a profit, makes no sense financially atm to lose profit again.

Your probably looking at a loss equal or exceeding if they bring out the PS4. The PS3 is still in its juvenile life cycle at the moment.

I hope this helps clarify things.

V/R

[hiredhelp]

IM not ready for a ps4 the ps3 is just getting warmed up.

[joydestroy]

i agree, and i'm alright with them pushing the release of it back a bit more. means i'll get more out of my PS3

2013/2014 is perfectly O-KAY

[Graey]

I agree.

Between 2013-2014 should be a mention or a switch of consoles.

PS3 however should focus on keeping people tuned to it despite newness until at the earliest 2015 possibly 2016.

After that I would think people would be asleep on the PS3. What I mean by that, is people tend to lose the hype on things after a certain amount of time. I call this the sleep phase.

An Iphone, Windows 7, NGP they all have a hype and then sleep phase. Of course there are phases in between but were focusing on the part where people don't really think about the console any longer they just play the games. At the moment we are not in that phase as we are still having console wars, fanboyism, etc.

[malandra]

PS4 is at least 5 years away

[Graey]

Def. I don't think we'll see it for so many reasons until at least 2016.

Games however will keep the system alive, and that goes for MS and NIN as well. Their respective consoles will do the dame. MS makes sense going after kinect because if it does not they will have to then focus on a new console. People would expect a leap in graphics, etc.

That is very expensive. So why not try and innovate with what you have instead of just rebuilding and re branding on what does not currently exist.

[frostypants]

There is nothing in Sony's or the industry's history that supports the possibility that the PS4 will be that far off.

ALL indications put it around 2013.

[hiredhelp]

The king did say 10 years on the console. till the next follow up thoe he didnt say till the ps4. but thats gota be what he means.

[slavish3]

like duke nukem ?

[ChrisW]

"They are betting the farm on PSP2 as they expect handhelds to displace consoles."

This sounds like history repeating itself. The same thing was said with Gameboy. However, today we also have smartphones. I think the misunderstanding here is not "handhelds" but smartphones will displace consoles. But this is a no brainer! Because everyone, including great-grandma, will have a smartphone in the next couple years. Nonetheless, a strong console market will be around for generations to come. Even as smartphones become more comparable and prevalent.

Lastly, if this article turns out to be true, which I wholeheartedly doubt, Sony will be in for a rude surprise.

[potenquatro]

Are you people for real??? PS3 and Xbox have been looking outdated for a little over a year, and they both been technically outdated for YEARS now(and yes they're both preatty much the same regardless of wich one gives you a hard-on). You don't want better graffix or don't want to spend the money or think these billionaire development companies can't make games for next gen without jacking up prices? You don't know anything about this then. They're basically saying they're not going to cater to the hardcore anymore. Forget you guys, I've been gaming all my life. Spending a bunch of money on a new almost unsuported system is what all hardcore gamers have done since the beggining. You guys think this is the first time the world has gone through a recession?? IDK about anybody else but, If Sony, MS, Nintendo, hell it could be General Electric. If anybody anounces they're dropping a new console with crazy specs tomorrow, I'm gonna be right there to get it. It's what gamers do. All you pu$$ies saying- "It's cool take all the time you need" -are crazy and don't know the first thing about this business or how to enjoy it.

That's why you get people calling you "stupid fanboys". Never in my life have I ever seen such a shameless corporate co<k sucking bunch like the Sony fans. And I lived through the NES era(the only console to be worth going bananas for, since it litterally SAVED console gaming). You know how you get developers ready for your next gen console? By making it developer friendly, something Sony forgot how to do for 2 gens now. You know how to make a next gen console more affordable? By not adding unneccesary BS that they end up taking away anyway later down the road. You know how to get gamers pockets ready for next gen? By anouncing with enough time and not charging an arm and a leg for online.

This is why the western world is loosing it's prestige and place in the world... Because the wrong people are breeding. This comment section is full of examples. STFU and never complain for next gen coming sooner or aplaud next gen getting here later. Peace to all the REAL gamers out there, we're holding the torch for gaming right now, don't give up. These console owners are the reason PC gaming is making a come back.

The only acceptable reason for this would be... That PS3 is in last place, has been in last place, and have tried everything under the sun and... It's still in last place. But they're in last place because of their own doing. I doubt this is the reason, but if it is, they should say it. It's called being responsable to your stock holders(ENRON and Lehman Bros. anyone?) and fans I guess.

[Bear_Grylls]

I agreed with everything until the last paragraph there man.

I don't know where you get this last place stuff from? It sounds like your listening to the wrong people on that one.

[potenquatro]

Sony is an incredibly huge company that makes the world go'round. I know Sony is making money out of the PS3, and, I doubt the reasons I stated in my last paragraph are accurate(as I my self stated in the very paragraph in question). But Sony, or MS for that matter, not openly saying they're working on next gen is worrying. And me personally would hate to see this with said companies if they don't attend the "hardcore" grievances, wich are, we want a new console sooner then later. That is what happened with me and Nintendo and their Wii.

[frostypants]

First you say Sony fanboys are terrible. THEN you go and spout off a bunch of BS talking points right out of the Microsoft fanboy handbook.

Pot, meet kettle. Holy crap...

[potenquatro]

@ frosty

1- I talk about Sony, because it's a Sony article

2- Perhaps you missed the little jabs at MS in my rant like.... "You know how to get gamers pockets ready for next gen? By anouncing with enough time and not charging an arm and a leg for online." -MS launched 360 right after anouncement, with faulty hardware and it has an ever increasing unjustified online charge. A bad way to start a next-gen. And, MS is even more guilty of not having another console ready since it's about to be 6 years since 360.

It's imposible to comment here without being acused of fanboyism. But I try to explain myself since, I feel, my points are still valid.

Any actual points aside from misjudgement you'd like to talk about? Talk about me or others as much as you want. But talk with some substance, have something to say other then "your this and that".

[dabri5]

Actually, the more time they take, the cheaper it will be. Nintendo does this. They design and develop the system until they feel good about it. Then they shelve all the designs until manufacturing it will be cheap enough. Sounds like Sony is doing the same. Everyone wants to make a profit on the hardware nowadays. Used to be, you sold console at cost and made all your money off software.

[DeadlyFire]

Honestly how big of news is this?

They shelved one project on PowerPC base and PS4 is dead or suspended. Not likely at all. Something better than PowerPC base was found. What? I am not certain, but Sony has something up its sleeves. Its possible Larrabee 2.0 What? Yes its coming. Noone is suspecting it though. Larrabee 2.0 + Intel based CPU + PowerVR 6 GPU? Its all speculation, but this news post to me equates to nothing. Just people jumping at every little word without acting on facts.

I am still expecting PS4 at E3 2012. Any sooner or later will be a shock to my system, but I can handle it.

[joeorc]

I think instead their going to go with Arm on the next playstation Home console design.

the reason being the New Arm designs will take advantage of the Server's gerared to run game centric network's on the Arm platform, an since those will also support the mobile space such as the NGP, many Smartphones, tablet's. better connectivity between the NGP an the PS4 an the Xperia Play through the "playstation suite" would be ideal in gather developer's basic on one big unified game platform with 3RD party developer's being able to gear a software game dynamic that will work on million of devices that are not just tied to only one companies hardware platform. because it will work on many
company's Hardware.

[showtimefolks]

so we won't need another one till atleast 2014

what you think sony will just stop making PS brand when ps3 is also on pace do sell over 100million

3 consoles in a row 100 million plus
psp did over 60million
ngp if priced right will do huge numbers too

people make big issues out of small things. sony should not be in a hurry about ps4 when a lot of people still have not gotten their ps3's yet let nintendo and MS go first learn from their mistakes and make another great console

GAMERS FOR LIFE

[DevastationEve]

...was there ever a console besides PlayStation that could just slap on the next number and get by on that alone?

Anyway, I hope they can do better than PS4.

[Dark_Energy]

Sony know then that the future of gaming will be on portable devices such as the Nintendo DS's and PSP's along with Smartphones and anything else gamings popular on.

But I disagree you can't have masterpieces of games such as Mass Effect, Battlefield etc... on mobile devices.

[PimpHandHappy]

they said 10 year life cycle

soooo

PS4 out in 2016

thats about right

[xTruthx]

Just because they said 10 year life cycle doesn't mean they wont release a new console to the market b4 that. They just mean they will continue to support the console for 10 years, nothing else

[PimpHandHappy]

but let me say

in 3 years we will start seeing and hearing about PS4 and about 2-3 years after we will see it on market

PS4 in 2015 is a slight maybe

[HappyGaming]

No way will I be playing games on a PS3 till 2015...

I am sorry I love my PS3 but I am not going to be playing games on 9 year old hardware.

PS4 by 2013 at the latest or I jump back to PC gaming.

Compare the PS3 to some quality PC exclusives today and you can see that the PCs are on a different gen. By 2013 PCs will be even further ahead at a fraction of the price.

Playing on PS3 in 2015 will be like playing PS2 in 2009 when many games around the level of Crysis were being released there is no comparing generations of consoles.

[DevastationEve]

I agree with gumtrol 100%, but that's the thing about consoles. They have longer lifespans and longer periods between hardware evolutions. But the nice thing is that you're going to get games from all of the best developers, and they all work harder to make newer games look better every year to compete with each other.

[BrianG]

People confuse "life cycle"

10 year life cycle does not mean the product is out for 10 years with no successor for that 10 years. It simply means that product is supported for 10 years.

A good example is the PS2, which is what, in its 11th year? It's life cycle was 10 years at first. It has since moved through the cycle into decline, but is still going.

The PS3's release did not mark the end of the "life cycle" for PS2.

[malandra]

but they never said that PS2 was going to have a 10 year life cycle

the earliest possible for the PS4 will be 2015

2012 NGP is released
2014 PS4 is announced
2015 PS4 is released

[Alpha_Gamer]

They are going to release the PS4 during the PS3`s life cycle. The thing is, PS3 is easily going to last longer than 10 years, so who knows when it will release.

I`m not pining for new consoles at all, especially a new Playstation. I really don`t feel like buying new hardware and waiting even more for the software to pick up pace, sorry, not interested. I know some of you want to count those pixels, but not me, I want a massive library.

[Graey]

Thank you Alpha.

A true gamer speaks. At its current rate we should not see a PS4 until 2015-2016. Are technology is getting to that phase where it's being replaced to rapidly. No need to invest so quickly if your going to just bring out something new in 4 years.

[potenquatro]

@Graey
That is one of the saddest staments I have ever read about gaming. Please go play with dolls or something. Just stay away from video games before they actually start listening to people like you.

[dabri5]

I understand the reasoning behind this but you have to realize that this is how it is with every system. If you buy it close to launch you normally have to wait a few years, closer to mid life to start seeing games really take advantage of what the system does. If you expect to buy a system and right away get games that use 100% of the system, then you are prob used to buying systems a few years into its life cycle. Just because you waited and just bought your system recently doesn't mean its new. Just because a new system comes out, doesn't mean you have to buy it either. It doesn't mean the previous system will stop being supported. New systems have always come out about 6 years after their predecessor. This is the Norm. It's not like other tech that gets a new update once a year. Feel lucky for that. It's time for new systems. If they aren't announced at this years E3, Ill be disappointed. Please note, I said announced, not released this year. Just announced.

[dabri5]

They've been saying 10 year life cycle since the PS2. The PS2 was out for 5-6 years before the PS3 came out. But the PS2 was supported up to and past the 10 year mark. That's what they mean. It doesn't mean that another system wont come out until after 10 years. Why do people keep bringing this up?

[DeadlyFire]

They said the same thing about PS2. It has had 10 years now and its time for it to die! Time for PS3 to take 2nd place to the PS4. Its the way of life. Get used to it.

PS4 will be announced no later than E3 2012. Doesn't matter what is said or not. No later than E3 2012. You will hear certain news on the PS4 by E3 2012. Just wait and you will see.

[Omegabalmung]

We really dont need a new console for atleast 3-4 more years

[dabri5]

No. Just because you waited so long to get your PS3 doesn't make it any less old. How about this. PS4 can come out next year and you can wait again, to buy it close to the end of it's life cycle.

The PS3, like the other consoles out, is old. Its been out for 5+ years now. Every console before it has had a cycle of about 5-6 years before the next iteration was released. It has then been supported past that point, thus the 10 year life cycle.

Games like KZ3 which, if the PS3 still had untapped power, should have improved upon its graphics over the previous game. The only improvements it did make, required GG to lower the resolution of the game. That's not tapping more power from the system. That's prioritizing power that was being used in one area to improve another. They are about as good as it will get. If you are OK with that for the next 3-4 years, then wonderful, but don't speak for everyone else. You are in the minority.

[Omegabalmung]

Actually I had my ps3 since launch.

but I really dont feel like arguing.

[DevastationEve]

Very well said!

I believe that there's always more to do when it comes to making games better, but obviously there's still going to be the same limits as before. A 52 card deck no matter how you shuffle it will still only have 52 cards, and they'll always be the same ones.

[NYC_Gamer]

MS,will be first to release another console.

[Jehovah]

Wrong!. Nintendo will be the first.

[malandra]

wrong!! Sega will be the first

edit: @plb (below)

Twilight Princess was planned for the GC but came out for it around the same time the Wii was released, so they ported it

don't be surprised if it happens again

[plb]

MS just came out with Kinect to extend the life of Xbox not kill it. Nintendo will clearly be the first but with Skyward sword coming this year you definitely won't be seeing a Wii 2 anytime soon is my bet.

[a_bro]

good. let them take their sweet time with it. this gen isnt over yet. they also need to recuperate their loses from PS3. i can wait. '

EDIT: they also need to make sure how they are going to build the thing and make it friendly for devs to use.

[Lazyeye79]

Sony will most likely stick to the Cell architecture (seeing how great it is) and since developers will be use to using it this gen they will have no problem switching over to it when the PS4 comes out.

[DevastationEve]

CellBE was discontinued in 2009, and although they said the architecture would live on `in the future, chances are that they could very well scrap it in favor of something more mainstream.

It was a good idea, but it was also an expensive one.

I think what's going to come around for PS4 (and I think for all next gen consoles) is something along the lines of fusion architecture, which will lead to such an awesome leap in computational power for gaming.

PS3: a CPU strong enough to make up for a weak GPU
360: a unified GPU with a general purpose CPU

Next Gen: a unified fusion APU (CPU/GPU), or some form of GPGPU, along with a high performance multi-core multithreaded CPU

[olLANDSHARKlo]

3...2...1... Here comes the Sony defense force, This is why I own both, I have the best of both worlds. One company folds, like it looks Sony is going to. I have the other, isn't it great not being a fanboy.

[xTruthx]

you forgot to put /s at the end

[BlackTar187]

lol at you

[RememberThe357]

OK Wow these comments are getting worse. You really don't care if Sony folds? Then I doubt you actually play their games. Also this doesn't imply that their going under, only that they would be changing they're timing due to market conditions.

If you take a Japanese forum post as evidence of a multinational business being phased out then you are a moron.

1st. It's a Japanese forum post.

2nd. Even if true how would Sony pushing back a consoles that publishers don't want a sign that they're going under?

You make no sense, and the above normal stupidity in this comment section is starting to hurt my head.

[Wh15ky]

Although I doubt very much that Sony will drop out of the gaming business surely even the most diehard Xbot must realise how catastrophic that would be. Competition is good for us, seriously we are all on the same side.
I'm more than happy to wait for the PS4, the PS3 has plenty of life left in it, it hasn't even dropped below the £200 mark yet, it's still the price the PS2 was when I bought it 10 years ago. I'd say the PS3 can still grow for another 3, 4 or maybe even 5 years before needing replaced.

[Tru_Ray]

I think that it is impossible to predict when they will release their next console at this point. A lot of it depends on how PS Suite, Xperia, and NGP fair.

However, I highly doubt that the portable device will replace the console. At the present, I rarely use my PSP and do not own a smartphone, but I play my PS3 all the time. The man cave is not going to go out of style anytime soon.

[AceofStaves]

Why would you assume Sony is going to fold? Seems more like wishful thinking on your part.

Owning both consoles doesn't prevent you from being a fanboy. The fact that you mention the "Sony defense force" clearly shows your bias.

[olLANDSHARKlo]

I mention the sony defense force because the sony fanboys on here will defend sony regardless of whatever they do. The ps3 has been hacked and so has the online, and sony doesn't seem to care, but the defense force will defend it. I don't want sony to fold but the writing is beginning to show on the wall. I play most of my games on the ps3, but as of late the online is full of cheaters, MW2 has been unplayable for 3 months now and sony is doing nothing about it, and yes sony can do something about it without the game developers, and MW2 isn't the only game full of online hacks, check youtube it's all the games. So me being a multiconsole owner, I believe it is about time to sell the ps3, it has nothing going for it anymore. My opinion, but I'm a gamer not a blind fanboy.

[Petro]

@PHIBALNATION
Holy shit! I have never seen such a "blind fannboy" and hypocrisy in my life. I dont even need to explain, cause only thing truth about your post is that Modern Warfare has hackers and you streched that one too.

[LiquifiedArt]

Glad sony is waiting. I'll wait too.

[LordMarius]

well that sucks, i want to see what GG and Naughty Dog can do with new hardware

[HappyGaming]

Exactly it should be a crime to make those developers wait till 2015-2016.

I think if the PS4 releases in 2012-2013 and the tech demos start roiling out people will be just as exited for PS4 as they were when they first saw the Killzone 2 trailer in 2005.

[tawak]

good, we can still enjoy play ps3 for years to come and developers wont abandon ps3 just yet,means great games

[arjman]

YES!!!! Thank god!!! Now my recently bought PS3 will have some added value!

[gamingisnotacrime]

Developers are starting to maximize profit, online updates to console and games keep them alive, and so far this year is KZ3, MMO DC Universe, Uncharted 3 etc, the PS3 is looking as fresh as it can get. Also the PSP2 is so freaking powerful that it will extend the PS3 life cycle by a PS3-PSP2 relationship. Next 5 years will be sicker than i thought

[a_bro]

im expecting some big OS upgrades on the system as well.

[sjaakiejj]

What does this mean? Simply speaking, games will be limited by current console hardware for another decade or so. Great :/

On the other hand, it does offer some more opportunities for students such as myself, as limited hardware means a bigger need for technological improvements.

[Cajun Chicken]

Really don't need it yet. PS3's only beginning to hit it's stride. With the NGP coming out soon, it would be far too near to the financial situation Sony gambled on releasing the PSP and PS3 so near to each other and never really making direct profit on either.

Plus, I don't really mind, really. But you just know that MS are going to whip out the next Xbox in this absence.

[labaronx]

i mean it says one thing but it can mean something else.....

and when was the ps4 confirmed to be in a planning stage other than on N4G???

[Tru_Ray]

Finally a sensible comment on this forum. You can bet your life that Sony hasn't shelved anything. They may want their competitors to think that they have shelved their plans, but a successor to the PS3 is all but assured at some point in the future.

[ProGrasTiNation]

If you believe this then your a moron

[111222333]

*you're

Pot calling the kettle black.

[ProGrasTiNation]

I take it you believe this then...a well,sheep will be hearded

[HarryPS3]

I do not see Sony releasing a PlayStation 4 before the year 2015.

[plb]

I think 2013 for PS4 announcement. The only company I see coming out with a new console anytime soon is Nintendo but not this year. I think e3 next year it will announced. Nintendo is still making massive profits from Wii so why kill it off. Meanwhile Sony/MS have brought peripherals to extend the life of their consoles. Plus aren't there already games announced for 2012 e.g. Bioshock infinite? Why are so people so eager for a new gen. Developers just got to know the systems and develop engines and so on. Crytek just finished the engine for 360/PS3 What a waste if they only get to implement it for one game. A new gen would mean developers would have to familiarize themselves with new hardware and develop new engines which takes time. Does anyone not remember how little there was to offer when current gen first started. I don't want to go through that again anytime soon.

[a_bro]

Devils Third and Darksiders 2 are projected for 2012 as well as possibly NG3.

[joeorc]

are you just looking for an excuse to pray Sony will not make playstation's anymore?

Have you noticed...what is a playstation?

a playstation is ?

just look at the direction Sony is taking, with the release of the Playstation Suite!

Sony's direction is one of further expansion of the Playstation platform as a whole. they can still make hardware an sell software on their system's. they most likely shelved the IBM ver's of the PS4 because the NGP uses Arm core design, the fact that new Arm core designs are cheaper , lower power requirement, an high performance for low development cost.

scrapping it for a more unified platform for development. the xperia play is Arm cortex. the NGP is ..once again Arm cortex. what do you think the New PS4 or what ever it's going to be called is going to be?

If you noticed..
Microsoft's windows 8 OS will be made for Arm Cortex..that's no WinCE that's the full windows API

Apple: IOS devices..Arm Cortex design

Nintendo once again Arm Cortex design..

95% of all Arm processor's power the Tablet's an Mobile devices.

the next Playstation for the Home console for your living room most likely be a Arm cortex design inline's with what the NGP is designed because the same software can be used from the PS3 to the PS4 due to the same development can be ported quickly to Arm from the PS3 already.

notice the source:

● SCE's next game is unchanged since the process 22/20nm
SCE's plans for PS4 generation machine, the various plans so far surfaced, disappeared. Larrabee and Intel's plan to use, IBM PowerPC-based development centers in Rochester there was a plan to develop a CPU. However, last year (2010) in the middle, the plan was back to the drawing board for all these. Currently, there are even plans to run, so would not be at an advanced stage.

http://pc.watch.impress.co....

Notice there was already developer's will have a hand in creating the next playstation last year!

this was not just for the NGP, maybe the entire playstation platform as a whole!

[one2thr]

I like the way your thinkin.....
So in other words seeing that..... "if" Sony wanted too, they can some how manufacture a cheap 8 - 16 Arm core processor(in theory) unit that uses way less than the recommended power that current day CPUs uses and HAS A VERY HIGH/ GREAT PERFORMANCE LEVEL that in theory will surpass the PS3s CELL performance level by more than three times while USING WAY LESS POWER, but seeing that the NGP will be powered by battery(it has 8 cores 4 GPU 4 CPU) than the performance level of the in theory PS4 as of right now "CAN NOT" be estimated until it's release seeing that it will obviously be a home console and it's power source is an in/out side home power outlet and the only things inside of it that would really need power is the disk drive, hard drive, and GPU and I'm hoping it's an option powered USB ports even when the systems off.....
If this is so, then I can gladly wait for Sony to take there time to creat the PS4, but let this generation be a valuable lesson to those that said "That the PS3 is whack because it has no games" at it's release..... Cause boy!!! The PS4 is gonna tear some major ass next gen...... SONY FTW!!!! (my bad for bad grammar I'm usin an iPod)

[joeorc]

while what you said could very well be in the cards a Arm 8 core CPU an 8 core GPU all on the same die..IE: one very powerful SOC!

do you see why the Cell was used! the Cell processor is a 9 core processor..people that still think it's not a 9 core SOC need's to understand, the fact the Cell processor was a Hybrid CPU/GPU has very much in common with the way Arm processor's are designed..they use SOC cpu/gpu's all on the same die.

just look at the NVIDIA Tegra 2

2 A9's with an 8 core GPU inside the same die.

it's less about the hardware it's more about "playstation" as a platform

the point being that upto recently Memory wall problems was a priority to solve that issue with games an application development, with the GHz cost per watt/clock cycle was hitting a wall , but by putting System's on a chip, thus creating a tiny Grid computing platform by adding more systems to the network, the network centric computing has enabled better result's than what we had from a few year's ago.

already Arm core designs are very high end processing for low power, combined with tool chains an development experiences are going to be fantastic. the fact that Microsoft, this is really supporting another chip aside from x86 design's for a new version of the full Windows API. this fact alone is most likely one of the reason's why Sony went with Arm.

Now playstation games could be made to run on Windows Arm OS 8 as a native application!

Sony now not only developer's who have made games for windows can also make games's for Playstation..Sony makes money, Microsoft makes money..the developer's make Money!

[sjaakiejj]

ARM's nothing new, it was a processor designed here at my University (Manchester). It's perfect for mobile devices, but their instruction sets offer some severe limitations for the high-end computation required by todays PCs and Consoles.

It's more likely to either see an evolvement of the Cell, or a custom-made processor by Intel, which would be roughly equivalent to their Core i7.

[joeorc]

" It's perfect for mobile devices, but their instruction sets offer some severe limitations for the high-end computation required by todays PCs and Consoles. "

I do not agree completely with that the reason being

see that's the problem what would your limitation's in instruction set's be really a problem is since your designing the system to play games an general computing.

that's i Think is the point, it's not about trying to have the computing platform need to do everything just what it need's to be able to do. as for games the quality in resolution and viability to be used a Home game console arena is more than capapble to perform what's needed in my opinion to make compelling games.

The point is already the Arm core design is very capapble to be used in a desktop enviroment when even Microsoft is also deciding to use the Arm core design for it's full windows 8 os with full API support.

[sjaakiejj]

The ARM processor is undeniably capable, just not for a high-performance desktop environment.

It's low power usage is partly due to a more limited set of instructions, which specify the types of operations the processor can naturally perform. It therefore requires a larger amount of software implementation, which is significantly slower.

Yes, multi-core ARM processors have good performance, but at the same time, they simply cannot compete with the high-end processors produced by Intel and AMD, and frankly, they're not trying to.

ARM's designed for mobile devices that need low power usage, and high performance (Relatively). Power consumptions are simply not a problem for consoles and desktops, and therefore there is no point into limiting yourself to ARM's instruction set, as well as the lower number of registers compared to Intel and AMD Processors.

[one2thr]

Ok but what if Sony sticks with the cell idea and just go with a (I'm not sure if it's possible) GPU That's based off ARM core architecture but with a twist..... It's low power but with high levels of performance, and have developers run with the same concept of processing stunning real time visuals and physic with the spu's on the cell but with the 8 core ARM GPU that'll give that extra kick of power that a SPU needs..... For example 1 CELL processor has 9 cores (as Joe mentioned) 1 SPU will use 1 GPU core but if it needs more then it will take another core 1:2 now if the developer wants to go further they can use a second SPU now with that pattern, if the second SPU needs more kick then it'll take one or two arm cores now the ratio is 2:4 now there are 7 idled SPU's and 4 idled ARM cores and as the pattern goes with the need kick it'll be like this...........
1spu: 1 or 2 core's, 2spu's: 3 or 4cores, 3spu's: 5 or 6cores, 4spu's: 7 or 8cores.....
Now theres 4 or 5 unused SPU's and zero ARM's left now if for what ever reason they needed an even bigger or greater kick then they would have those extra in theory powerful spu's at they're (Sony or developers) disposal...... FYI IT'S JUST A THOUGHT I REALLY PULLED THIS ONE OUT OF MY ASS, BUT WATCH AS PEOPLE TEAR ME APART BY POSTING A THEORY.......

[sjaakiejj]

If Sony sticks with the Cell architecture, than it's unlikely that they'll use the 8 SPU variant. Instead, they will likely opt for a higher number of cores (Last I heard, at IBM research they're already up to 16 or even 32). Additionally, a high-performance GPU is guaranteed, as the Ps4 would need to compete with current desktop GPUs, which are incredibly powerful, even if todays games don't show that just yet.

For GPUs they will probably stick with Nvidia, thanks to a long-term partnership. It'll likely have a custom-made knock off from one of Nvidia's current High-Performance GPUs.

Don't expect to see ARM make an appearance in Desktop Computers or Consoles at any point in the future. It's simply not the sort of devices these processors are made for.

[Xfanboy]

cloud..

[HappyGaming]

Technically the PS3 could be used to stream 3D 1080p games like onLive... but we would need futuristic internet speeds like those seen in scifi movies.

Who knows it may be plausible.

[Aarix]

Sure as he'll ain't with avenue.

[kookie]

its too early for ms and sony

[TABSF]

The 8th Gen of consoles should be in 2013.

I would expect a Next Gen Nintendo before that.
It would not be wise for Sony to enter the party last again.

[bligmerk]

Typical Interwebz confusion at work. If you go to the link in the article, it is a forum post at Beyond3D. It links to the japanimpress page and uses the Google *machine* translation to derive this "information". If you read the machine translation, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The Larabee for PS4 was a total fabrication, complete Interwebz nonsense in the first place so that doesn't even make sense when it says it was suspended in mid-2010. And if read between the lines of the article, all it is saying is there is no PS4 anytime soon, which anybody with an ounce of sense has known for quite awhile. Kaz makes a statement that the PS3 is not even to the halfway mark of the 10-year life cycle. If anything, the article implies the PS4 may just be using a 20nm/22nm Cell.

[Jdoki]

The cost of making games, especially AAA, has already got to a tipping point. A new gen of consoles can only increase costs further. I can't ever remember a time when so many devs have gone out of business, and that has to do with tough economic times and spiraling dev costs.

This gen, for me, has seen the most radical shake up of the industry - both hardware and software. I can't ever remember a time when each console had a really unique selling point beyond exclusives, and were targeting such different types of gamer.

So maybe sticking with the PS3 a few years longer than planned is a smart move for the entire industry.

To be honest, the graphics are mind blowing on current consoles, and the Wii has shown you don't need cutting edge tech to sell units. So what's the rush? Let the PC fanboys upgrade hardware every year or two. I'll stick with 360/Wii/PS3 as long as the quality games keep coming. I can wait for a PS4, NeXtBox, Wii HD etc

[Blasphemy]

I don't believe this. They still want that ONE box that controls everything in the living room. PS3 is close but I think a new console would probably be able to do more.

[GavLam88]

I don't believe this either. Of course Sony will have a development team conducting R&D on the successor to the PS3. None of us have any idea how long it will be before the PS4 arrives, but at the moment the PS3 is still going strong with PLENTY of great games still coming out.

For Sony, it makes sense to try and keep the PS3 relevant so it can continue gaining high margins. The time is simply not right yet, but don't think for one second that Sony are not conducting market research and/or R&D projects for the PS4.

[Stealth20k]

and why would I believe this?

[Money-Mike]

This is great news! The PS3 still has tons of life left. The Xbox 360 on the other hand desperately needs something, besides Kinect. My prediction is we'll see a Wii successor in 2012, a new xbox announcement around the same time, and a PS4 in 2014. I'm so glad this generation is lasting longer than 5 years : )

[damnyouretall]

im happy to hear this cause i have alot invested in my ps3, 360 and soon to be ngp. anyways i want the next gen to be really advanced and powerful. so a few more years will allow the technology to fkn rock

[SSKILLZ]

It's gonna be made by Sony's first party debs so they know best ! , take your time sony .

[kulex47]

"They are betting the farm on PSP2 as they expect handhelds to displace consoles." - From Article
BS that's the stupidest thing ever. Obviously Sony doesn't "bet the farm" on any 1 thing and does not think that handhelds like the gameboy/psp are going to replace the console gaming world...this can end now.

[GavLam88]

You summarised it perfectly. If anything, there will be a high level of integration between the PS4 and NGP but there is no way it will completely replace it.

[tudors]

I have a feeling that both Sony and MS will apply some kind of onlive style service, once we have full broadband penetration it makes sense that they would do this because piracy is not sustainable, both PS3 and Xbox-360 are capable of this, times are changing, do I think this article means that Sony is going bust? of course not, I say watch this space because I have a feeling somthing significant to the gaming industry is on it's way, and MS will be watching this closely, things are not what they seem IMO.

[kevnb]

For some reason nobody wants a new console anytime soon. It almost feels like the current consoles came out a few years early.

[RAmar101]

Imo there's several years left for ps3, 360 will likely blow out first and have a successor, wii, well I hold no respect for nintendo anymore unless they go back to the snes/n64/gc ways. Wii has been utter dissapointment for me

[Neko_Mega]

It wouldn't be a shock that Sony is working on it, but that doesn't mean it will come out anytime soon to.

[Mr Tretton]

I feel myself soon to be getting tired of this console gen's graphics. If the gen is gonna be extra long I may find myself investing in a gaming PC.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

I knew this was going to happen, the hand-held market is growing rapidly and to hold off on PS4 production is actually a good move.

If the hand-held market wasn't the way it is today then I would've bashed Sony for making this move, but I can understand why they did it.

Personally I'm bored of this gen and I'm just waiting for the NGP to come out. After this gen it's either PC gaming or hand-held gaming for me.

EDIT: Did any of you read the article? The articles about Sony possibly never releasing a PS4 due to the handheld market, it's not about Sony wanting to spend more time developing it.

[battlecrafts]

Anyway, what can they do more? A PS4 which controls everything in our house!Yeah sure and what else?!together for the laziness...:D

[Masterchef2007]

theres plenty of life left in the PS3 despite what people say

[astrobrights]

I don't see why this is news. Sony has always planned for the PS3 to be a 10-year system. So of course they aren't coming out with a PS4 anytime soon. I'd assume the PS4 will probably come out sometime around 2013 or even 2014.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

The 10 year life cycle has nothing to do with this, the PS2 had a 10 year life cycle as well did you know that? but guess what happened? the PS3 came during the PS2's 6th year.

The articles talking about the possibility of Sony never releasing a PS4 due to the rapidly growing hand-held market.

[buckley]

Take your time, do it right. Cool with me.

[Killzone3___]

talk about it thiss e3 , next year in e3 show a prototype , and release it in the end of 2012 or the start of 2013 , this is perfect :P ...

[turgore]

the later next gen comes the better it will be. If we have Crysis 2 graphics now, imagine whats possible with consoles that are 5 to 10 times stronger (depending on the release date).

[DanSolo]

I doubt that they have suspended anything... they stated from the beginning that they are planning to stick with the PS3 for longer than previous gens.

I would imagine that PS4 development will be continuing at exactly the same rate it was before, and that they will be sticking with the same schedule that they had planned all along.

We will see the PS4 absolutely no earlier than late 2012 and that is unlikely to say the least, but more likely 2014.

But really... who cares, the PS3 has not yet reached its peak and is still evolving towards its best.

[Ethereal]

Good. Focusing on PS3 and NGP is a great move in my opinion. PS3 has lasting power and integration with NGP could be amazing. Would love to see some love to PS3 firmware and features added. I say keep up the good work Sony.

[Nightshadow]

I doubt handhelds will replace consoles -- unless that handheld gets powerful enough to hook up to your home TV and perform as well as next-gen consoles... then maybe.

[Allowen]

Remember when Sony said that this gen would have no longer have 3rd party aaa exclusive games on any console ?

yah, it is way too expensive to pay got an exclusivity for a GTA, Final Fantasy, Activision and EA games for exemple.

Even the big Microsoft all they could do this gen was to "buy"temporary exclusive DLCs and small 3rd party exclusive games.

I bet that Sony is hopping and guessing that to develop games for the next gen consoles will be even more expensive then it is today.
And that is why they are not "scared"by Microsoft since they have near ZERO 1st partyu studios so in the end any major game they might have in a Xbox720 it will later on be ported to the PS4.

We never know what will really happen but I do belive that Microsoft might want to try to make a new "Wii console" based on Kinect and lots of 3rd party exclusives(small games that is that don't cost much).

Like I said, this is what I think will happen and I will only belive that an Xbox720 will be super powerfull as a PS4+ lots and lots of exclusives when I see some news about Microsoft buying 1st party studios...

[LMS]

WOW!!

That sucks so hard for people with console only and no PC.

Seriously, that is rough.

720p and jaggies everywhere for the next 3 years

[Timactionfigures]

PS3 is just getting started. No need for PS4...maybe after the great recession ends...if ever...???

Anyway..."Dark Souls" and "The Last Guardian" will push the PS3 into new territory. That is AFTER "Killzone 3" has it's way.

Do we really need better graphics? Just give me a PS3 that won't YLoD, something RELIABLE...and PS3 and it's functions could continue for years!

I had to rebuy a slim after my phat broke suddenly and unexpectedly. Might buy a NGP when it comes out. But to buy into PS4 after the previous hardware failure...not so much.

[Der_Kommandant]

"They are betting the farm on PSP2 as they expect handhelds to displace consoles"

Unless i get a 60" Handled, thanks but no thanks

[Timactionfigures]

How about magnification lenses...AND 3-D combined!...damnit I'm a genius!

[supremacy]

lol wow i think some people on here need to realize that non of the big 3 wants to put out a new console anytime soon.

Sony was just the first to admit it, if this rumor is to be believe. By that logic than Nintendo went into saving mode with the wii and DS, and MS is still playing around with the 360 which is like 6 years old? i mean wheres the new box?

Okay so... say Sony does release the ps4 next week or something, yeah they will lose millions if not billions. But they will be okay because thats money they will make back in 3 years time.

The weakest link here are the 3rd party publishers like them Capcom, ubisoft, Squarenix. Just put any amount of back to back flops can mean closures and lay offs for these companies and their staff.

Mergers will become more frequent and so forth, psp is considered a failure yet the thing has more units sold then the home consoles currently out.

During the psone and ps2 era, the economy was different and therefore the market was just growing into what it is now.

Now we are seeing and having studios closing down, being bought and so forth.

MS has money for sure, but even they shut down studios, and barely invest in new 1st party software, like both money savers Nintendo and Sony do.

You guys are trolls with no knowledge of how the economy works and how to react to market changes if left in charge of a big company.

Sony's platforms have always been entertainment computers built to offer a variety of experiences to its consumers.

The ps4 will eventually come into the picture, but not anything soon. Micheal patcher doesn't pay the bills of these giants running the show, all he does is talk and make obvious and sometimes silly predictions and guesses.

Ps2 is profitable, psp is profitable and the ps3 is also profitable with the ngp being build with profitable parts common to the average developer.

Sony will take a small hit and price drop the ps3 to 250 by may or June sales will climb and things will continue to roll from there. MS will do the same i am sure, because at the end of the day each of these companies know whats at stake.

The gaming industry believe it or not can actually collapse with a premature next gen entry and millions of gamers will be force to pay the price with their pockets for prettier games. If the games now are 60, i could only imagine what they will cost then.

[Bounkass]

No point making PS4 now... PS3 is doing very very well, so why bother?

[mdkgod43]

i wouldnt mind having a PS4 now im such a big Sony fanboy lol

[DantheMan81]

I love coming on here and watch everyone talk out of their ass on something they know nothing about. Right now, I am happy where the ps3 is, it would be exciting to see what the ps4 has to offer, but I got plenty of games to look forward to on the ps3.

[xabmol]

Cool! PS3's a Beast!

...and will (like I've said before) be in direct competition with the Xbox3. PS just has longer staying power and the Box will just keep pumping out new flammable plastic for gullible consumers and Halo fans. x]

[jjank11]

Sony will release a PS4, I just hope it is around 2015 or so. I think the PS3 still has alot left in its tank. Only a few developers are really maximizing it so far.

I think they should focus on the NGP. I'm finally excited about a handheld and unless you've been asleep for the past 2 years gaming has been heavily adopted by handheld devices, i.e. cellphones.

If Sony could find a way to use the power of connecting 2 PS3s together, that could at least double the capabilities. I would certainly buy another PS3 if they did something like this or if they released some slightly updated PS3. I think it would be a shame to just throw the PS3 technology aside in favor of something else. Many companies have built amazing toolsets for the PS3 and I hate to see it start all over again.

Anyhow, I just think we are at a point graphically where there are other areas where the potential can be maximized (like Netcode for MP games).

[knifefight]

Cool, I can wait.

[8thnightvolley]

personally i think tis a good decision to push it back the current gen is doing great and the cost right now is already sky high making another console gen right now with seriously fragment the market still in transition.

[LMS]

the consoles are maxed!!

You will never see anything better than uncharted 2/god of war 3 on ps3...xbox360...lol....that thing hit it's peak with bioshock in 2007

That's why I want new consoles...

My PC is the only place I see cutting edge graphics in 1080p, I want them on console too!

[Mr Tretton]

uhhh, we are seeing games better than Uncharted 2...it's called Uncharted 3, early code at that.

Nonetheless, yes these consoles are likely to be maxed out soon.

[hoops]

2012-2013 would be a good time to release a new console system

[therapist]

Shoot,

we needed new consoles a year ago, I'm sick of 720p and shitty framerates!

The ps3 is badass, don't get me wrong, but the limit of what it can do has been reached, I see myself playing on pc more and more!

[the new king 74]

Maaaan f*ck psp2!!! I want ps4 ! I have leather theater seats and a few 1080p Tv's to play consoles not handhelds! I understand they're trying to recoup all the money Sony losses on ps3 but come on

[StbI990]

Screw ur screwish desire for the ngp u screw nayer

[divideby0]

wont read the article cause its conjecture and pure BS.
Sony is not stoping any development on the next PS.
sure they are focusing on the PSP2, but they will keep plowing forward with development for the next PS

[Hozi89]

Great!..At the rate PS3 is going, PS4 is def. not needed anytime soon. So many exclusives to behold. I know for sure I'll be busy with PS3 eclusive that comes out this year straight into at least 2013. TES5, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 to name a few.

Wow...3 really must be a lucky number.

[playaplayer]

Can someone please explain to me how the ps3 can compete with the xbox 720 which probably will have state of the art technology. Expample 8 core processor 4gigs of ram and a amd 6990 equivalent graphics card.

[airforcex]

They don't know what they talk about. The 360 GPU is better and it's 2005 technology. Most ps3 and 360 games are sub hd. Any new system would be truly 1080p, not to mention frame rates, particles, etc. They probably think PS1 was better than Dreamcast. I don't know why I even bother. By the way, it's usually ps3 fans doing the worst debating. A 2006 system competing with 2012 or 2013? My mid range 2009 GPU does better than my ps3. I'll say again, minus Uncharted and kz, most games look better on the 2005 system (probably 9 to 1).

[airforcex]

At six years they better do something (perhaps that add-on mentioned a month ago). About the x-box obsolete comments, most games look and perform better on 360 thanks to the better GPU today (not 2 years ago). Five awesome looking PS3 games don't make up for all the other games that look better on 360. I know; I own both systems. Generally speaking, the ps3 is my br player. CPU wise PS3 rocks but it takes forever to program maximizing this. The ps3 has been costly (not necessarily bad) and they need to maximize their investment. But when consumers have to wait, it's never good. Someone else could steal the show again. We'll see what E3 brings.

[Big_Dom]

You got bubbles (whatver that is, but you get em anyway) for talking sense. Very rare to come across that on this site, especially reading comments regarding a Sony console.

[ChronoJoe]

They plan to release after the competition, I've heard this several times, and it comes as no surprise.

[ChronoJoe]

Actually...

If this were the case, they wouldn't be having minor studios handle all the BIG NGP developments. Naughty Dog would be handling Uncharted on NGP, etc. I don't think GG or Insomniac are making there own IPs NGP games either.

They're reserving them for development on a home console. Be that home console the PS3, PS4 or even NGP. I will be playing the system that these fantastic devs will be developing for.

[I_Guts_I]

@ kalipekona

The reason why they are similar is because everything thats multiplatform is made for the 360 then ported to the ps3. Look at Uncharted, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid 4, and God of War 3 and you say nothing on the ps3 looks as good as Gears of War 3? Crysis 2 is goign to be on ps3 also.

i own a gaming pc xbox and ps3, i am not a fanboy. But for you not to see that the PS3 has more power and room to make games is just being oblivious. the xbox had multiple discs for FFXIII i mean com on.

[LoneWanderer09]

The world does not need another Gaming System PS3 is fine now and it will be for 3 or 4 more years

[cheatcode78]

hmm idk i honestly dont think sony needs a new console out yet, i mean im scyed about a new ps4. But the ps3 is just getting started in my opinion.

[danthebios]

Ps4 will be released when all xbots kinnect owners go crazy and go to a mental institute.I guess those crazy guys there are playing kinnect in their mind.hahahahahhaha.peace.

[Gon0S]

We will never see a Playstation 4 for a simple reason :

The number 4, in Japanese, is similar to the word "death".

An example : FujiFilm built the dSLR pro series and skipped the 4 iteration name : S1pro -> S2pro -> S3pro -> S5pro !
The S4pro never surfaced at all, because the fourth one is in fact the S5pro unit !

[danthebios]

eh,so thats why japs always have threesomes and not foursomes,i see,ahahahaha,just joking dude,no harm intended.peace

[zero_cool]

Sony has already hit their stride with PS3 with NGP on it's way so they have no reason rush into next gen anyways.

[Droid Control]

Noooooooo!

Say it isn't so. I love my PS3, but i have no interest in handhelds. I want a PS4 now!

More POWER!!!

[ehandlr]

...Sony never said any of this. A blog theorized that Sony would hold off the PS4. All Sony said was that their current plans are to support the PS3, PSP and NGP....a standard stock corporate response...

[sway__z]

Even if Sony release the PS4 next year (unlikely), I would still hold off 12 - 18 months from retail date. Reason being, I have always been an early adopter and paid the price in more ways than one.

1) Early adoption is costly until the components are reduced in price.

2) Early adoption is like being a tester as the consoles are usually unreliable and in need of refinement.

3) There are no games of particular worth as the transition from one gen to the next is slow since developers are just learning the hardware.

So i'll wait until it gets up to speed before I purchase another console. Yes, my PS3 will be with me for sometime yet. ...and Sony had better make ALL services eg, PS Home available day zero for PS4 as many people have spent a lot of money on such services.

Thats my 2 cents....

[Munky]

Looking back on past console generations, for the most part the first console out of the gate has won the race for that particular generation. If it is in fact true that Sony has decided to hold off on its plans for the PS4 this is nothing but good news for MS, Nintendo or any other company thinking about jumping into the console market (Apple).

[Big_Dom]

BREAKING NEWS;

Sony delays making new console; waits on Nintendo to invent a new game controller and other innovations to replace the Duel Shock. Will claim new tech is from the distant future after the Cell chip invents time travel, achieves world peace, and cures male heriditary baldness. Reprorts state that the console will last 500 years this time instead of just 10. The device will also come with a new port that will apparantly be capable of sucking fanboys off, and making cups of tea.

[InTheZoneAC]

damn your english sucks

[bsm1923]

I'm hoping Microsoft and Sony can get together and use both of their strengths together to make the next gen console. An easy to develop for, jack-of-all-trades, powerhouse of a console. I'm so tired of the "war" and just want to be able to play games, watch blurays, surf the net, stream netflix, watch DVR'd show, have 3D capabilities for my 3D tv when I want to use it, and not worry about which console I own as to whether or not I can do all of these things. ONE CONSOLE! Microsoft and Sony both win if their PlaystationX becomes a common, need-to-own device which it can be. Hell, charge me $600 for it, I bought the PS3 at that price, as long as that is the only console I have to buy! Sorry if I'm saying something that someone has already mentioned, I didn't read all the posts. Viva la PlaystationX!

[Munky]

@bsm1923 (Sorry, I thought I hit "reply")

Wishful thinking my friend, but I have the same one as well. But I think X-Station rolls of the tongue easier.

[Moerdigan]

does anyone else see this as a positive too?

Maybe Sony has is seeing more potentially groundbreaking tech for the next system so they are making sure the next system they will present matters to the consumers and the industry.

they are probably trying to avoid hard beginnings like they had for PS3, at the very least.

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

If MS release their new console it would change their mind quickly.
Sony canning the PS4 probably happened because they couldn't get enough intrest (outside investors) to continue research and developement.

[zero_cool]

I doubt it because sony's not just pulling profits from the gaming industry but in all aspects of the electronics market with strong support from multiple partners both internally & externally.

[zero_cool]

The art of business is a lot like playing in a chess tournament first you carefully observe your competitors strategies & moves & then you carefully plan your own strategies & moves to counter your competitors strategies & moves in order to dominate your competitors.

[joeorc]

for a very good reason!

ARM Plans to Challenge Intel’s Server Chip Dominance in 2014
December 13, 2010, 6:20 AM EST

http://www.businessweek.com...

the New NGP is Arm based
the 3DS is Arm Based
Windows OS 8 will also be Arm Based

I doubt Microsoft is in a hurry also!

Arm is challenging Intel. An Server's are a big thing for gaming network's!

[zero_cool]

Sony knows the art of business all too well in the entire consumer electronics market & you would be a fool to underestimate their experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Horny Melon]

just abandoned the hardcore for the casual they have just fucked themselves. The whole reason videogames tanked in the 80s after just five years of being on the market is that the general public lost interest and moved on to something else.

The casual gamer can play breakout, pong, etc forever. They don't need to buy pong 2, breakout 2, etc. Once breakout becomes boring they will quit playing. This is why the videogame industry catered to the people that would keep coming back for more, the hardcore. They should have already learned this lesson with the Wii. It proved the casual gamer only buys 1 game for every 16 the hardcore gamer buys.

It is funny as hell to watch billion dollar companies parrot each other in a quest for perceived gains. Like the Move and Kinect....they came out, people bought them and now they sit there collecting dust and forgotten like most peoples wii.

[InTheZoneAC]

I don't want PS4 any time soon. I think the PS3 could last longer than their 10 year plan. I bought my ps3 launch day and it still feels like a fresh new console. Keep PS3 around for as long as possible.

[Enigma_2099]

If true, then I applaud this decision. Let's max out the PS3 first

[RumbleFish]

To be honest, not having a PS3 today is like living without a cellphone in the 90ies. Some people just insist in being "clever" and to pass on a really good multimedia device with bluray, media player capabilities and some of the best exclusive games of the decade.
I admit I don't own a 360. But it's not because I hate it, I just have not enough time to play on two consoles.
It would be a great loss for the gaming community if SONY was forced to give up console manufacturing.
I can not understand why fanboys would want SONY so hard to fail.
The PS3 is a superb machine and for me it is what SONY wanted to give me: It's the center of my living room.

I love SONY but I don't hate their competitors.

[mjsmufc99]

i think this is a good thing because the ps3 is still the leading console for everything than the 360 the best thing for the ps3 to do now is to get these lazy ass developers who find the ps3 too hard to develop on get developing and you can see a vast improvement on gameplay and graphics imagine multi plat games like Assassins and COD with graphics which could rival Killzone and Uncharted/God of War there wouldnt be a need for a 360