Dark Souls developer From Software has insisted its spiritual follow-up to Demon's Souls is "not a sequel", and says it's treating the project like a brand new game.
Good because if demons souls 2 ever released it would be an exclusive experience and better than dark souls and demons souls 1.
Exclusive =/= better We don't know if DS2 would be better than Dark Souls but one would hope the latest is greatest. And Dark Souls looks like a sequel if not a spiritual successor. I just think that they changed the name to avoid issues with going multiplatform. Yes, there are some changes, but it is way too similar sounding to think it was done unintentionally.
This^^^ It's basically Demons souls 2 anyway, and Demons souls 1 being exclusive didn't exactly help it. It was amazing because of it's gameplay, not graphics or technical feats, which is really the only differance between the two consoles(besides number of exclusives)
People keep saying Demons Souls graphics are nothing amazing. Well I don't understand it, I thought the game was gorgeous. Textures looked amazing, lighting was incredible, whats not amazing about the graphics? Anyways, the devs literally just said it is not a sequel, and you are still saying it is. It is a successor obviously, with very similar elements, but a new game nonetheless with a new story, new characters, new bosses etc... A sequel to Demons Souls would follow the same story, and this, as far as we know does not. I don't see what the debate is about.
For example, just cause COD looks like Battlefield, doesn't mean one of them is a sequel, lol I'll be the judge of that when I play it. I'm pretty familiar with Demon's Souls. We'll see how it plays and feels. If they say it's not a true sequel, then it's not a sequel. More than likely a sort of reboot.
the dev speaks the truth tho....Sony owns the DS IP, so i dont see a DS2 on the 360, but Dark Souls, while similar to DS is a different game, but which has a very similar feel and setting to DS
BiggC You're right. DS1 is a great looking game. It is detailed as well with tons of poly gons. Each area feels like a world of its own. Dark Souls has huge shoes to fill. From the trailers I can see that they're close to DS1 graphics but not quite there yet. I don't think they will match DS1, let alone surpass it. But I do believe they can pull off a great multiplatform achievement like we've seen with Fallout 3, Mass Effect 2, and Read Dead. If they can nail the great gameplay, exploration, and challenging difficulty, then it will be a triumph
@BigC Demon's Souls graphics look good and they can certainly be done on a 360. People seem to think that because it's multiplat it's somehow going to suffer terribly.
DS' success is just as much attributed to Japan Studio who co-ordinated with From Software to make DS the game it is today. I believe it was the director of Japan Studio to propose the "online" features and the difficulty which are loved in this generation. From Software basically took their experience and brought it over to this new IP. Let's face it, when has a From Software IP made much as success as it did with Demon's Souls? Ninja Blade on the 360 was treated like trash by it's fanbase. -End of Line
Just like I've been saying, it's more of a spin off than a true sequel. Still though, this will keep me occupied until the Demons Souls 2 is announced!
I hope Demon's Souls 2 is PS3 exclusive then and Dark Souls is multiplatform then.
Sony owns the rights to Demon's Souls.they could pay From Software to make the sequel.
Sony owns the rights to Demon's Souls Well. Thats good then.
In addition to DS being a Sony exclusive, it must be said that SCEJ actually co-developed the game.
Indeed.Dark Souls is called a spiritual successor similar to how Shadow of the Colossus is a spiritual successor to Ico.
For the life of me I can't understand how ppl see SOTC as any sort of spiritual successor to Ico. Other than visual style of the world and a very abstract link in storyline that to this day hasn't been explained, they are nothing alike.
It'll always be Demon's Souls 2 to me. :)
Even if Demon's Souls 2 gets released? :)
Keep dreaming dud.
It's Demon's Souls 2 in everything but name.
Of course it isn't since Sony owns the IP for Demons Souls.
Mkay, if you say so. Either way I'm buying this.
Dark souls will be better than demons souls.. people take your goggles off for once in your lives. Just cause it isn't exclusive anymore, now your are gonna pull the "if it was exclusive" card. Demon souls would easily run on psp/ps2. It wasn't a demanding game.
how do you know it will be better?Who cares about others you sound as bad as they do when you whine like that.
you cant be simple minded enough not to know I'm being optimistic. I simply posted a comment like everyone else .. try not to get emotional
This is the internet and you expect people to understand how you feel and how you mean to communicate it with a sentence like that and one that is followed up with '. people take your goggles off for once in your lives" Emotional? How is what i said emotional i just simply stated how sad it looks to portray yourself like that whilst calling people out about it.
"Dark souls will be better than demons souls.." Speculation. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
wow how'd you figure that out? I hope you didnt exhaust your brain .
The real Gollum is funny. You sir are not!
aww isn't that cute. No sh*t, just like a real beaver is dirty, "you sir are not"
I love demon's souls to death, its in my top 5 games of all time, however I am giving dark souls a big MEH. I want a demon's souls sequel.
You're an idiot then, because this is it. You can deny it if you want, but this is the next game from the developers of DS, and it's pretty much Demon's Souls - The Next Chapter. I think a lot of people live in a city called Denial, which block are you from?
no Nexus (Hub world), no soul or world tendencies, no familiar characters, no continuation of the demon's souls story, Developers said it themselves that dark souls is NOT a sequel to demon's souls. You are the idiot, not me.
It doesn't need to be a sequel, this is an evolution of DS. Check out their games before ds, they have been making games similar for quite a while. There won't be a sequel to Demon's Souls because they are taking each game they make to new heights.
I know man I can't believe they get so petty over a game. They say PS3 fanboy's are no worse than 360 fanboys, but I don't remember any 360 fanboys getting like this when ME2 was announced for PS3. I didn't see one person post, Well Fu%k ME3 if Bioware going to put it out for everyone. I liked ME1 but MEH to ME2 now. Fu*king pathetic. I really wish I could get in their head to know what went so wrong for them to take something like this so personally. This will be a great game just like DS was, if it hurts your little feelings so much then just go jump off a building or something. Edit: Oh, now that I think about it. I did see a lot of PS3 fanboys rubbing the fact ME2 was coming out on the PS3 in the faces of the 360 crowd, but I don't see the 360 crowd doing that now. Just another example of how crazy one side is up to the other. Another funny thing is I will be called a 360 fanboy just for pointing this out, when in fact I hate all fanboys.
Dark Souls is not funded by Sony so ofcourse it's not a sequel to Demons Souls dur?
To dodge IP issues, FromSoftware LEGALLY has to not mention Demon's Souls. I don't care if this is a sequal or not... For gawd's sakes, who gives a sheet? If this game delivers the same experience as Demon's Souls, and maybe takes it further (and it looks like it might according to the developer), then it is a day 1 purchase for me period. To claim you wont play this or are arguing if this is a sequal or whatever...shows fanboyism in the worst way. You are limiting the games you play for no good reason other than irrational thought about a company that doesn't give a sheet about you.
Demon Souls is a very good game quality wise. I think the main reason for that is because of Japan Studios involvement. Lets be honest here. From Software have done mainly average games which have been pretty cheezy. Dynasty warrior like cheezy. With Demon Souls i expected the same however when i saw Japan Studio and SCE in the beginning. I knew it will be at least decent quality. Everything about DS was well done. I liked DS even more than Oblivion. Weather Dark will be the same quality as DS will remain to be seen. It just seems they are moving to a more action orientated RPG that it already is which is what i a a bit worried about.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is what I'm talking about. Nate, Why would it not be as high quality now? The same people are making it. Why would it get worse? Why would they throw away all the praise and recognition the garnered from the first game and make a shitty game? Don't you think they would strive to improve it? Why on earth would you be worried? Because it's on both platforms?
Because SCE and Japan Studio were involved with Demon's Souls and are not involved with Dark Souls. That's what he's saying. He's saying that he has come to expect quality from SCE and Japan Studio, but that Namco Bandai and From Software alone deliver fairly average experiences for him. It's a valid concern.
I knew that's what you were going to say. Do you think they just forgot everything that SCE would have help them with, or showed them? I understand your logic, I just don't agree with it. They developed the game. I'm sure all SCE helped with was the code to get it to use the PS3's hardware properly. I’m pretty sure they didn’t help with the design of the game, or game play. I have no proof of that, but rationally that’s probably what happed I don't think your concerns are worth losing any sleep over. I loved the first game they made, and I am sure I will love this one. I'm even willing to bet they make improvements despite the popular attitude on good OL' N4G.
defensive much? So you missed my comment about previous From software games and you immediately think about being multi?. Like it or not Japan Studio and SCE are not going to be involved. You think that they SCE and Japanstudio were just there to put their names in the credits?. lol! Play the game to the end and see just how big of their involvment was. It will open your eyes.
I guess I did come off a little defencive in my comment. I let myself get a little aggravated by all the fanboy comments having to do with the announcement of this game. I did not count your comment as one of the fanboys comments. I just don't think that this game is going to be worse than the last one, but I will not know until I they it. Sorry if my comment came off too harsh, I guess we will just have to wait to see how it turns out. I still don't think there's anything to worry about though. I also don't see what the point of your comment about playing it to the end was. Like I said I am pretty sure that their involvement was to get it working on the PS3 hardware effectively. I don't think they were involved to much in the game design or game play. I will have to look into it a little deeper to make sure. I am out of bubbles so I will PM you what I find out.
So what !?
oh and by the way, it shouldn't take a genius to know there will never be a demons souls '2', this is obviously the direction the developers want to take the game. We may be getting a more 'soul games' similar but different in there own way.
Oh really. Did you know that From Software WANT to make a Demon's Souls 2, but can't without permission from SCEJ, who have said that right now there are no plans for a Demon's Souls 2? So genius, did you know that? Huh?
Is Dark Souls a sequel to Demon's Souls? Well, the only way it can be is if it continues or adds to the story of the first game. Since the devs have said it doesn't, then it isn't. Simple as that. It is a spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, but calling Dark Souls Demon's Souls 2 is akin to linking Final Fantasy games (with the exception of X-2 and XIII-2) as sequels when they are not. As for userbase, disagree all you like, but PS3 users are used to a game like this and 360 users aren't. It is likely to a high degree that this will be passed on by the 360 userbase in a large but not universal amount. The demographic isn't stellar there. In any event, if the story is as deep as Demon's Souls and the gameplay is brutal and unforgiving, then it will be an excellent game regardless of platform... as long as "restrictions" don't gimp it.
Yea new final fantasys arnt sequals but its a new final fantasy as this might not be a sequal storywise but its a new demons souls. They couldnt make another DS and they saw the potential so they went multi and changed the name. 360 owners will prob like this as much or more because we play lots of rpgs. Far more wrpgs and this is pretty much a wrpg. I have all systems and DS is one of my fav games but im mainly a 360 gamer and DS wasnt terribly hard at all for me. The 360 only owners will be pumped for this, ps3s best exclusive is coming to 360, they will want to check it out. It might not have the name but we know what it is. If sony sees how well this does they will hopefully make another DS but until then, this id DS2.
They keep saying it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/t... SCEJ’s Takeshi Kajii has hinted we’ll be getting a Demon’s Souls sequel “one day”, athough right now, nothing is currently in development. “At the moment, my answer is ‘no sequel!’,” Kaiji told The Guardian in an interview when asked about it. “However, we have been encouraged by all the players, and this title is so well supported, and besides we like this title so much… “Well, this is my own feeling, but I think one day we could bring you another Demon’s Souls…” ---------- Why no one believes them is beyond me.
I think many of us will be playing this game & thinking that this game is soooo like Demons Souls. That's not a bad thing by any means.. But these guys obviously want a wider market appeal & why not. But the developers comment does reek of denial.. But hey bring on Dark Demons Souls LoL ; )
are they using the same engine of demon's souls? cause the engine is owned by sony
They're saying this because it LEGALLY can't be a sequel, what with Sony owning the Demon's Souls IP and all, but sequel or not, it will be a very similar game.
What is everyone going to say when an actual Demon's Souls 2 is officially announced?
It's not a sequel. It's got some very similar gameplay elements but it takes place is a completely different world. Also, they've made it more similar to previous King's Field titles.
YES! This mean Demon's Souls series is still PS3 Exclusive Series!
Never really played Demon Souls, but really looking forward to buy it sometime
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