Battlefield 3 to utilise new Frostbite 2.0 engine

BF3 will use a brand new engine, Frostbite 2.0. This will have full support for directx11 and 64-bit processors.

Some more features of Frostbite 2.0 include:
“Tile-based deferred shading acceleration” via DirectCompute. This is being ported to the PlayStation 3′s SPUs.

Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA), again implemented with DirectCompute, for bandwidth conservation. MLAA is currently available only to a few PlayStation 3 games such as God of War III and LittleBigPlanet 2. DICE intends to bring this feature to DirectX 11 GPUs.

Quasi-realtime radiosity.

Improved environment destruction.

[DoomeDx]

Gotta be a mistake

Bad company 2 already used Frostbite 2.0

[DERKADER]

BFBC2 uses Destruction 2.0 and the original frostbite engine. Also according to the BF Blog 64 player is only on PC. Finally a real BF sequel.

[plb]

Guess I'll be getting this on PC then.

[DoomeDx]

Destruction 2.0 is how they called their new destruction. Engine was still frostbite 2.0. So no, your wrong

[smashman98]

no battlefield uses frost bite 1.5 so you're wrong

[Xfanboy]

yeah dx11 will finally be used to it's fullest i hope!!

http://bf3blog.com/2010/12/...

[I_find_it_funny]

i don't care how many players, what engine, and what not
i'll be playing this on PS3

[theonlylolking]

that is stupid. The PS3 could do 64 players. Dumb dice and trying to make the PS3 even with the xbox

[bumnut]

Maybe the ps3/xbox couldn't do 64 with the destruction.

I know mag was 256 but the graphics were pretty poor and it ran at about 25 fps on the 256 player battles, with no destruction.

And i base this on absolutely no evidence whatsoever :)

[Pandamobile]

Bad Company 2 used Frostbite 1.5

[DoomeDx]

I heard otherwise. But if you say so

[Ryudo]

Yeah but PC gamers know all so don't worry bout it.

[VenomProject]

@Ryudo

Pompous prick alert! Danger, Will Robinson, danger!

[ATiElite]

Bad Company 2 Used Frostbite 1.5
BC2 was a console game ported to PC so DICE could get Frostbite 2.0 ready for Battlefield 3.

Frostbite 2.0 is DX11 from the ground up with ZERO DX9 support (YEEEEH! Death to Dx9)

[joydestroy]

pandamobile is right. Frostbite 1.5 for BFBC2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Active Reload]

Is it a rebuilt engine or the same one with added capabilites?

[Pandamobile]

It's basically pretty much a whole new engine.

Frostbite 1 was Bad Company, Frostbite 1.5 was used for 1943 and BC2 (BC2 had additional destruction capabilities), and Frostbite 2 has been in development for a number of years now, specifically targeted at DX11 and 64 bit PCs, but is also backwards compatible with current gen consoles. It uses a whole new renderer among lots of other things.

[Active Reload]

I don't think they rebuilt the whole engine from scratch, so I'm going to disagree with you.

[Klepto]

No bad company 2 used the Frostbite 1.5 engine get your facts straight.

[hassi94]

You're wrong, Frostbite 1.5 was used for BF:BC2.

[Pandamobile]

"Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA), again implemented with DirectCompute, for bandwidth conservation.[4] MLAA is currently available only to a few PlayStation 3 games such as God of War III and LittleBigPlanet 2. DICE intends to bring this feature to DirectX 11 GPUs."

Ewww. I hope there's more anti-aliasing options than just MLAA... I know Frostbite 2 is a deferred renderer, but DICE should be able to come up with a better solution than that. Crytek did.

[Klepto]

Don't worry we wont have to be stuck with fake AA :)

[theonlylolking]

That "fake" AA is really good.

[peowpeow]

It is, but only when implemented into the game rather than forced. Still, having normal AA options available is a must..especially when there's barbwire on-screen ;D

[LightofDarkness]

Well, there's SRAA, Nvidia's new approach, which is a post-processing effect like MLAA, but has better respect for geometric boundaries and should produce sharper images at even less of a performance cost. Apparently it is comparable to 4x-16x MSAA in quality.

I think MLAA is quite good, it's the only option I have to clean up the edges in Dead Space and it really does a good job, there's not really any noticeable blurring in-game.

[Pandamobile]

But still, all these post processing aliasing filters are never as good as a real MSAA or CSAA.

Crytek's solution involved temporal anti-aliasing which still seems like a better solution than MLAA.

[hoops]

New AMD GPU's have this feature in hardware also. However as you said, these post production filtering methods are ok, but the Real AA is far better solution.

[SuperM]

No they are not a far better solution because if they were we would only be using those. They do get a better result but at a far greater cost, so unless you have the hardware to use alot of MSAA then MLAA is a better solution. If you do have the hardware for it (can run 8xMSAA or more with atleast 60fps) then it is a better solution.

[hoops]

Any GPU costing $130+ will run most games this generation at 8xMSAA above 30FPS. Something these consoles cannot do.
Moreover EVERY new AMD GPU offers MLAA on top of the hardwars current Anti-Aliasing technique.
Actually all AMD new GPU's use Enhanced Quality Anti-Aliasing (EQAA) which is similar to Nvidia's CSAA. EQAA and CSAA is superior to MSAA. Then when you factor in AMD GPU's can use MLAA+EQAA its not a contest.
Regardless. Modern GPU's from Nvidia and AMD offer superior forms of Anti-Aliasing than what MLAA has to offer.
Now for consoles? MLAA in some or many or all situations might be the better solution because these consoles can barely perform outdated AA sampled 2x let alone 4x.
So you are correct in that area. For consoles particularly the PS3, MLAA is the better choice for AA as AA on consoles in plain words: suck.
MLAA is the better solustion for CONSOLES. Not for the PC when a mid range to budget GPU can use 4x-8x CSAA or EQAA.

[user858621]

64 players with frostbite 2.0! :O! *mouth drools*

[_Q_]

Oh man. This game is gonna kick so much ass. I still play BFBC2 quite a bit. I wonder when i sequel to that will be out.

[ugabugaz]

I can only imagine the amount of heat my laptop will generate during one match. Probably enough to heat the entire world for several days.

[Kon]

That's why the PC is here

[ugabugaz]

A laptop is a PC, I don't understand your comment.

[Klepto]

Seriously, you know what he meant. As in a desktop PC.

[ugabugaz]

Umm no. Desktop based PC's generate just as much heat, if not more. It's just in a larger space so a person's body parts don't become delicious rare steak.

[kaveti6616]

Desktops have enough space so you can install cooling solutions like heatsinks, fans, and liquid systems.

That's what he meant. That's how you should have interpreted it. Don't be dense.

[zeph94]

...It better have big maps and planes. Also there's just something about how the guns are in BC2 that I don't like. I hope this game is more like BF2 then BC2.

[ATiElite]

Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 2 are two different approaches on the FPS.

BC2 is a console shooter with emphases on skill and team work centered around hot spots on an medium map

BF2 is a PC shooter that's all about strategy, teamwork, artillery management, movement tactics that take place across a giant map.

If you ever played Battlefield 2 PC then you understand the differences.

[zeph94]

Well I did play it and I DO know the differences thank you, I just didn't state them. I liked both games but I liked BF2 much more because when everything got going it just felt much more intense then Bad company 2. I'm not sure if I should take this as attack or what so....I've just been having a bad day so excuse me.

[TheColbertinator]

64 players...wow DICE is not holding back for console gamers now.FPS of the year most likely

[NiKK_419]

24 for consoles, sorry. that may change though, but i read 24 somewhere else(don't know if this article says anything about it, as i didn't read it, because i already know all about it)

[hassi94]

He knows that, he's saying that Dice isn't letting consoles hold PC back.

[hoops]

Finally (hopefully) a multi-platform game for the PC that will use DX11 and 64BIT CPU's.

[artdafoo]

So it appears that other than PC the PS3 is the way to go as far as consoles ? Ahwwww too bad Xbots. Well at least you still got first dibs on dlc for the turd that COD has become.

[hassi94]

And what information did you use to make that assumption then? Oh yeah, nothing. Stop being a twat, you know the PC version is going to be miles better and the Xbox and PS3 version will be about the same.

[deadoralive1337]

After I get this game, I don't think I'll need a FPS treat for the rest of the year. !@#$ COD. It can go to hell.