PS3 Hacker Tells Sony to Back Off or Else...

Graf_chokolo, famous for a multitude of decryption payloads on the PS3, has warned Sony to back off. Earlier today, several sites were issued Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) notices, ordering them to stop hosting several famous PS3 dev's projects. Sites such as GitHub complied with the order, and removed projects being worked on by coders Kakarotoks, Graf_Chokolo, and Kmeaw.

In response to these actions, Graf_Chokolo gave Sony an ultimatum earlier today, over on XorLoser's blog. He stated that if Sony was to continue such tactics, that he will publish his IDA database, for the PS3's Hypervisor and Hypervisor processes. What this means, is that reverse engineering the hypervisor would immediately become much easier for other developers using IDA Pro Disassembler. IDA Pro is a popular tool, commonly used in reverse engineering software.

[hunter21]

lol then sony is going to file a blackmail lawsuit. Graf_Chokolo should think again by doing that.

[Wenis]

I'm sure he would then just release the information so its a lose/lose for Sony.

[RememberThe357]

I guess it depends if they can find his identity. If they can find out who he really is and stick it to him, jail time would be almost guaranteed.

[Dac2u]

Assuming he lives in a country that has laws regarding blackmail, yes, he could be in trouble.

[CryofSilence]

If they have a warrant, they can do an IP search and easily find him.

[Biggest]

As if he wasn't shooting himself and the hacker community in the foot on this one. . . The comment section on that website is shooting the feet, hands, and knees. Nothing like disproving your only defense right before you go to trial.

[shoddy]

release a hack that already hack the ps3.

ps3 hack is done. Now it's just who is gonna go to jail.

or get ban, or couldn't play online(eventaully get ban)wait for new firmware hack to play Uncharted 3.

people don't know death until they see thier coffin.

[AndrewRyan]

They can't find these people I hope you guys know. Does anyone know aXXo? Famous uploader of movies. He has yet to be found, and trust me, he owes billions upon billions for the copyright he has infringed.

[teamr]

@morganfell

No, I don't think it'll go that way.

Sony is most likely going to lose this case. They tend to throw as much as they can at the wall to see what sticks. This case will not stick. Geohot will gain lots of notoriety that should = $$$ in the future.

If sony didn't care, why would they be fighting so hard against it? For the last few months they have been patching the ps3 at least once a week, and now they are taking everyone they can to court. They care, alright. They care a whole lot

[MeanOldman]

teamr dudes like you are ones that said the judge woudnt approve the restrain order. now its they wont win the case. so far its people like us 1 an people like you 0. these hackers aint internet ghosts. they cant hide like they did 5 years ago. people said sony was wrong for threatenin hacker it jus makes em mad. well they done pissed sony so lets see who has the bigger stick. issuin a restraint the judge said she saw merit in sonys case already or dint you read that. an geohot cant spent squat when he is guilty. any money he gets cause of his crime will go to sony.

[Biggest]

"They can't find these people I hope you guys know."

No reason to look for George Hotz. He'll gladly show himself.

"Geohot will gain lots of notoriety that should = $$$ in the future."

Funny. I remember him gaining some notoriety after the iPod hack. It still seems as if the only money he gets is from groupies via PayPal. No one is hiring in his field?

[HolyOrangeCows]

That's assuming that he HAS the info, and not just issuing an empty threat.

LOL @ all of these basement dwellers with such confidence in themselves over a big corporation. Reality check, you device hacking dorks; the precedent has been set. Even if you live in a 3rd world country, between SCEA, SCEJ, SCEE, Sony has all of the influence and access to country laws, trade agreements, and more that it needs.

Death to hackers.

Edit: Ahh, I see morganfell's helpful comment has been stripped of a well said, 120 agrees to 13 disagrees and all....and then marked as spam...lol. Gotta love n4g.

[thesummerofgeorge]

Morganfell is Johnnie fucking Cochran. Well said indeed...

[captain-obvious]

i find it ironic that the site is full of PS3jailbreak adds
lol

[beardpapa]

@Biggest

that's the funniest thing I've read today. So true. Definitely so true.

[jadenkorri]

@ teamr

really now, patching the ps3 once a week, since the ps3 has been "hacked" only 1 update has since been released, wow, yeah sony is patching once a week, and how long has the the ps3 been hacked now, well over maybe a 3 weeks, maybe close to a month.

@ Biggest

you make it sound like geohot is gonna get a job due to "hacking". Well guess what, you don't get a job by costing major companies millions of dollars. If you honestly think Apple would hire this guy after they lost millions due to his hack, homebrew is just an excuse, people want to play games for free, not run their own apps. I hope sony mops the floor with geohot and he becomes someones b!tch.

[K3nji]

@Shoddy
"Geohotz is the first to get hang, or rape in jail by 10 black immates."

Am i the only one who doesn't find this offensive? I'm pretty sure you didn't need to label the possible rapists in jails as "Black"...

[Kewl_Kat]

Then he sure is one stupid hacker. He's not even fighting for some worthy cause. So if Sony does win a lawsuit against him, he then releases his hacked files, for what, spite? Wow.

[I_find_it_funny]

When he gets in jail it will be lose/lose for him

[ThanatosDMC]

He'll be hunted down by the law so i hope he does so he can rot in prison.

They found who darkalex is, if you dont remember.

[hakis86]

Did he say this in person, or write it on a blog? o.O
OH WAIT! A blog.

Seriously.. idiot.

At LEAST Geohot is not hiding his identity.

[Soldierone]

Beyond everything else, I still find the "unstoppable" people the most entertaining. It makes me laugh. Pirating movies is just digging a hole, and once you dig deep enough they finally bust you and put you in jail to stop.

He went from that to messing with one of the biggest companies in the world doing one of the most illegal things he could do? You honestly think he could hide? He updated a blog, the government already has his ID and location in hand right now, Sony makes a big enough deal guess who will get it? Guess who is screwed in court when he goes to jail for blackmail, theft, among many other things?

[hay]

I can smell his fear.

[nveenio]

You're right, but the Federal Government has to press those charges... That would involve Sony finding a federal prosecuting attorney that they can coax into moving forward with criminal prosecution of someone who may or may not be who you think he is. Getting a Federal Warrant on something like that would be really, really difficult.

[Anon1974]

I think the article gets it wrong right off the bat. "Hacker tells Sony to back off..."

It's not Sony that's telling them to remove the hack information from their site, it's the courts. He's not making a stand against Sony, he's thumbing a court decision in the face and last time I checked the American courts don't like their rulings being ignored.

These hackers are in trouble. Already the courts have looked at and decided that yes, these sites are doing something wrong and breaking the law. If there was any question we wouldn't be seeing a restraining order in the first place. This just goes to prove what the court's leanings on this case are already. The US has been the main country pushing these types of cases, and passing laws to protect copyrights and IP's in the face of mounting misuse and piracy - largely due to the fact that so many pieces of software and entertainment are made in the US in the first place.

I think the courts are going to make an example of these hackers to serve as a warning to all. I think it's going to be severe, and I for one welcome a ruling that puts those who enable piracy back in their place. The guy who blows open a bank vault can't just sit back afterwards and say "I TOLD them not to steal after I blasted open the doors!"

[MeanOldman]

invenio dude you not thinkin. you think sony is alone in this? sony could have ever manufacturer of hardware an software for games, movies, all kinds of things. anybody that has anything to lose will back up this case to the max dude. it aint just sony. thas what ever one keeps missin.

[Heartnet]

Hmm its unlikely sony will win ^^ however much i want to punch that smug bastard lol :P

he deserves to be punished but the jury and the judge probz cant wait to do this themselves so ;) nah i joke :P

But yeh he seems pretty confident that he is going to win so he must have a reason :P

Atleast Sony are doing something to stop this and it does show that sony care about their consoles more than others

[JD_Shadow]

Umm, you guys don't even read the text to the article that appears ON THE N4G PAGE before spewing your hate? Good lord, READ THE ARTICLE!

"Graf_chokolo, famous for a multitude of decryption payloads on the PS3, has warned Sony to back off. Earlier today, several sites were issued Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) notices, ordering them to stop hosting several famous PS3 dev's projects. Sites such as GitHub complied with the order, and removed projects being worked on by coders Kakarotoks, Graf_Chokolo, and Kmeaw."

WHAT projects are we talking about here? Trying to get cheats to already published games, or actual homebrew games that would prove to some people here that HB games would really exist and were being worked on?

God, some of you have to really stop trying to see the forest from the trees. This is not a black and white issue, and it's becoming clearer that this has something more to do than Sony trying to fight pirates and cheats. I swear, some people have to THINK before they spew that hacker hate.

[ziggurcat]

@ teamr:

considering that the judge in the case granted the TRO and allowed for the case to be held in california, despite his arguments, i'd say that it's looking more like a sony victory in this case. another hint as to the outcome could be when the judge stated this upon granting the TRO:

"Having considered all the papers and arguments, the Court finds that SCEA has shown a likelihood of success on the merits of its claims for violation of the DMCA and CFAA, and that it will suffer irreparable harm unless Defendant Hotz's violations are enjoined," the filing states."

[thereapersson]

I thought hackers were supposed to be smart people? Doesn't he know that blackmail is illegal? What an idiot, although to his credit I suppose he doesn't have anything else to lose.

[EvilC]

No hackers are smart at fucking shit up but cant get a real job.

[madcowz64]

I hope he knows this will blow up in his face, sony is a big ass company and he's some dumb nerd in his mom's basement(cliche I know). I'm sure Sony has ways of stoping him(ways that aren't even heard of) from doing anything, its not like some small pawn can take on an entire company. He will go to jail and end up being some criminals play toy.

[the_best_player]

@EvilC

Hacking is a job.
Here in the UK there's even HACKING courses at the universitys lol.

[Soldierone]

Hacking is not a job. Only way it is a job is if a company hired you to break their thing before its released. Also called a beta team.

Hacking is taught in schools to train you for programming. Its a lot harder to read code, find a problem, and exploit the problem than it is to just write it. This helps you learn the code along with what the code does. Its more complicated, but more interesting and efficient way of learning something.

[Prototype]

@thereapersson

Hackers are book smart, not common sense smart

[princejb134]

these hackers are so annoying
get your life together and stop hacking systems
hard working people made these consoles and software for us to enjoy to play

[Blaine]

lol seriously, there's no fame to be gained by hacking video game consoles!

"I'm the guy who hacked the PS3" isn't a line that'll get you laid! And it won't make you rich either.

No fame, no fortune? These people need to find more productive uses for their time. Or a better hobby.

[Sarcasm]

Actually these "hackers" don't really seek for fame or fortune (with a few dumb exceptions ie: geohot) they do it because they know they can. It's a challenge to them and it's really a hobby. It's like people with high end PC's who will sit for hours and hours or days and days overclocking their computers to the extreme, for what? No reason.

[Blaine]

Yeah, that's why I said: "OR a better hobby."

[Heartnet]

@Sarcasm

It is for fame otherwise they wudnt post it all over the internet

[Ravage27]

hackers really are a lame bunch of idiots, yup i'm SURE Sony would be threatened by this dickless blackmail.

What's stopping this f$#%er from publishing it even if Sony gave in to this childish demands? The hacker community has proven themselves to be a bunch of f@#$tards who cares absolutely nothing about the consequences of their actions (MW2 hack situation) and they expect people to believe them?

LOL.

[AKA]

lol funy to see how here in n4g everybody thinks is a layer
I keep saying sony better respect the hackers and stop attacking , i dont wan my ps3 to break becau of their stupidity

stop wasting time in trying to stop it, an focus on giving us a desent better updated webbrowser

[Ravage27]

'..respect the hackers...'

you are kidding...right??

No one wants more trouble to befall the ps3, but we're looking at a lose-lose situation here. There is absolutely no reason to believe this blackmailer's words.

Hackers are attention whores, and they will do whatever they can to get it. People who think that anything will change just because Sony gives in are incredibly dense and naive.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

@AKA

Before you download the next malware plagued pirated copy of Dragon Ball, don't forget to update your billing info on your PSN account on your hacked PS3 since you want to make it easy on hackers.

[jrbeerman11]

The hackers will do what they are doing no matter what Sony does anyways.

Hackers are gonna hack, that's all there is to it. everything they say and all the excuses or justification in the world don't matter for shit.

if there never was an "otherOS" ps3 would still be hacked. If sony kept "otherOS" in, the ps3 would still be hacked. If Sony was the perfect company and worked for no profit and helped take gaming into a new utopia, people would still bitch at them.

I give Sony props for standing up for their hard work, as well as developers hard work. don't forget developers are the biggest victims, the ones that create these great games we enjoy. if everyone gets for free, then there will be layoffs, less companies, less games.

[badz149]

"stop wasting time in trying to stop it, an focus on giving us a desent better updated webbrowser" - and PS3 is the only console with any browser at all and it does it pretty decently tbh. it's a gaming console 1st, everything else 2nd!

Sony has never stop releasing games after games even after the hacks. is it wrong for them to stop people from stealing from them? the law is there for a reason. break it all you want but get yourself ready for the consequences!

[offwhiteazn]

this guy sounds like a complete asshole

[Dsnyder]

Hacker behind computer:GTFO SONY OR I WILL KILL YOUR FAMILY!
Hacker in real life:Ok here is your luch money,please dont stuff me in a locker....

[INehalemEXI]

lol

[m2345]

i hope these hackers rot in a cell, seriously. they could be using their knowledge for something good but instead they want to stir up trouble.

[xAlmostPro]

what a retard..

he's just gave evidence of not only blackmail but "bad intentions"

hackers are supposed to be really clever yet they lack in common sense lol maybe its the lack of social life

[finbars75]

What is with these retards who are obsessed with hacking.Theres no point to it to me at all.Its called selfish little sh$ts who have no goals in life or ambition to do something positive with there skills.Its to bad these people are more stupid then they are smart.Listen to him back off or else....seriously sounds like 5 year old child telling his mom to give him his gi joe toy back or else im going to pee myself or have a temper tantrum.losers.

[Vherostar]

This guys just writing years onto his prison sentence with stuff like this..

[SeanScythe]

Anyone else picture Sony being the little Chinese naked guy in the hangover and the other guys being the hackers? Then POW Sony bust out the trunk and beats their asses.

[monkpunk1]

it must really piss these hackers off that months and months of work has been wasted by sony getting these notices. And considering these guys are clever they obviously have zero common sense to try and blackmail a company the size of sony.

I think the Sony boffins must be working just as hard at the moment to implement something to block these guys and i certainly hope they succeed and judging by the BlOps situation they are starting to take a hold.

Take note Sony have not released many official statements regarding these issues but i can bet that some serious lawyers have massive amounts of evidence against these idiots.

[MNicholas]

Looks like the arrogance stemming from the god-complex that's part and parcel of the hacking culture has been exposed.

When things don't go their way they throw a tantrum.

Pathetic.

[visualb]

or else what? he will call his mom n tell her Sony is bullying him?

GTFO rot in hell hacker =D

[Christopher]

What a f***king idiot.

[tastelessgamer]

You all know that no one is going to jail. Sony messed up and now they are paying for it.

Let this be a lesson, don't screw your clients!

[blackburn5]

Or else? Who does he think he's fooling. Sony is obviously not playing around. I think someone should really put these people in their place. They think they are invisible and above the law or something.They could sue his @$$ for blackmail. I don't think he will like that at all.

[RememberThe357]

I'm inclined to agree. These guys give hackers a bad name. Most hackers aren't arrogant pirating asshole like these guys. Some how they have managed to gain a god complex. They must not leave very active lives because living a real life has a way of humbling you.

@below: Well those people have actually done something with their lives. These hackers have become arrogant off hacking a game console. Odds are that their lives aren't too impressive. Thinking you powerful because 10 people on the internet worship you is a lot different than thinking your powerful because millions of people worship you.

[AntoineDcoolette]

Rofl, because every single celebrity and famous person in general is humble, right? Yes, ex KGB agent Vladimir Putin is very humble.

[ActionBastard]

He's under the impression Sony is fighting offline consoles. They aren't.

[darkdoom3000]

Agreed, hardware wise, ps3 is hacked to hell. releasing the
hypervisor info does nothing as you can already bypass it.

[Lou-Cipher]

This guy is threatening Sony with maliscious intent. That comment will wind up screwing this guy in the end.

These hackers have been trying to convince the courts that their hacking is only for personal use, and this guy just opened his mouth a proved to every court out there that they intend on hurting Sony with their hacks.

He just made every hackers court case that much weaker by saying that publicly.

Burn theives burn.

[topgeareasy]

Sony will counter with black mail

[00]

Or a Rootkit.

[palaeomerus]

Oh ho! Someone has a memory!

[manitobawpg]

bama will cut his internet he (has the kill switch)

[thereapersson]

Hahaha

[ScentlessApprentice7]

Sony does not negotiate with terrorists...or hackers. IMHO, they both deserve to go to hell on the same boat.

[duplissi]

lol... wow.

[Moentjers]

well... isn't it so that hacking can be considered an act of terrorism if it's against government infrastructure ?

[duplissi]

yeah it is cyber terrorism if done on a government network with mal intent. but the type of hacking we are discussing is of opening up a closed propretary system...

yeah those are of the same caliber...

[gtsentry]

can someone explain to me wat this ida database is?

[Alpha_Gamer]

Lol, threatening Sony? Dumb move.

[SpLinT]

I hope he gets sent to prison

[NicSage]

Wow, you are up the creek now dude.

Thank you. You just made it easier on Sony vs you and any other hackers if people think sony is backing off you are crazy.

[TheObserver]

I think Sony don't care what hacker releases at this stage. Sony just want the lead hackers to pay and suffer it seems. And I perfectly am okay with them killing off the parasites that live off the hard work of others.

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

yeah like game reviewers

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Everything on it's time, gotta check that first item on the list before moving on the second.

[Stationfan]

Corporation have gone soft, whatever happened to the corporations of yesteryear that would have hitmans at there disposal, and give this e-thugs an offer they can't refuse

[Lou-Cipher]

They gave the hitmen stock in their company, now they are all Microsoft/Activision executives now.

[awesomeperson]

Imagine Kotick as a hitman o.O

[gamingisnotacrime]

as if hackers were not trying all this time, losers

[Led-Zeppelin]

1 Hacker VS Billion dollar company. This is going to be interesting.

[CryofSilence]

And I say to the hackers, "enjoy your lawsuit, and your overcompensation for a lap pinkie isn't fooling anyone."

^_^

Honestly, these guys are going to hinder progress in the videogame world, but they're too narcissistic, cheap, and logically-stunted bastards to realize this.

[littlebigmarcpsps3]

and the war shall begin!
man getting myself two ps3
i need my PSN for now i cant hack it

[maverick40]

peasant.

[VenomProject]

I would be too busy sharting myself to "threaten" Sony, or any other multi-billion dollar company for that matter.

When someone like Agent 47 busts down your door in the middle of the night, you'll be regretting those "threats."

[supremacy]

lol interesting, ok then do it and Sony ill simply go the pc route with individual keys on game discs.

Plus they can put you and the rest in jail...sounds kind of like a rico case keep at boys you are after all heroes to some around here.

No seriously, the whole i bought it and i can do whatever i want with it argument just got a lot useless.

[jerethdagryphon]

theres a better solution

game graphics engine ai physics geometry and assets

say run the physics librarys compleyly in memory streamed from sony servers eachtime you play

the disc is incomplete and wont work without a working internet connection to sony servers use a rotating authentication key so each time its differetn

piracy would be reduced as the discs wouldnt work

[supremacy]

hm thats interesting, perhaps is something Sony should look into.

[jeeves86]

The only issue with that being people who don't have constant access to Internet.

If anything, the developers should be backing Sony on this, its their job security on the line too.

[teamr]

Wow. Whole lotta morons replying to this story.

Assuming they could even catch him, or if he's even in a country that would take the charge seriously, what case would sony have? He didn't make any real demand.

But whatever. It's all pointless because he released the info a few hours ago. GG

meanwhile sony continues to fight a losing battle while subjecting legit customers to annoying features like weekly system updates. lol

Why don't they take the microsoft/nintendo approach and just forget about it? Piracy hasnt stopped those companies from kicking sony's ass for the last few years

[thereapersson]

Remember the R4 cart debacle?

[Biggest]

He made a demand. He said stop or I'm going to release all of the information I have. You don't have to ask for $100 billion and a private jet for it to be a demand. You keep cheerleading. When you wake up and the guys that were nice enough to hack everything for you aren't there to hack anymore, how will you keep doing what you do? Will you magically develop a brain and learn to hack things yourself? I doubt it.

[MrBeatdown]

Blackmailing Sony into ceasing legitimate legal action...

Oh yeah, no case there.

[radphil]

"Why don't they take the microsoft/nintendo approach and just forget about it?"

That makes COMPLETE sense. Ignore a blackmail situation, which is over the line of boundaries...

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

"Why don't they take the microsoft/nintendo approach and just forget about it? Piracy hasnt stopped those companies from kicking sony's ass for the last few years"

Looks like some one have been living under a rock for too long.

[Oxymoron028]

He didn't make any real demand?

Try reading the news story then fucktard.

[ComboBreaker]

"Why don't they take the Microsoft approach and just forget about it?"

Microsoft is the type of company that never forgets.
You, however, have forgotten that Microsoft just ban a couple of millions of 360 pirates this Christmas.

TeamR: "Maybe if we hackers play dead, the big Sony monster won't eat us."
TeamR: "Yeah, Sony, we're not a threat. Just forget about us, like Microsoft. It's like we don't even exist."

"Assuming they could even catch him, or if he's even in a country that would take the charge seriously..."

They could. Especially in America, where the NSA moinitor all internet traffic. SCE and SCA will take care of the other continents.

"...what case would sony have?"

The court, which is the law of the land, says otherwise.

"He didn't make any real demand."

I rape your wife in a loving manner. There is physical damage to her vagina at all. So it must be legal.

"t's all pointless because he released the info a few hours ago. GG"

Then he have just guarantee that he will be sharing his ass among bullies in jail.

[DarkBlood]

you sir are the moron pal

[Pedobear Rocks]

I truly don't understand why these people believe it is their right to basically destroy millions upon millions of R&D and investment by tech companies so they can have their small dick thrills.

[teamr]

Because the pressure is on Sony to challenge and overcoming a consumer's right to use the device in whatever way they see fit as long as they are not reselling the modified product for a profit

[SMW]

I dont know why every console box doesnt have a seal that must be broken stating that the console is a closed system and by buying the console and opening the box you agree not to hack or circumvent security measures. That way hackers have no excuse.

[Samk18]

But the problem is that these hackers are bragging about their ability to hack the PS3 and then releasing codes for anyone on the internet. If they did this in the privacy of their own home fine, but letting it be public knowledge its basically asking Sony to do something about it.

[kane_1371]

@SMW
actually ps3's box is supposed to have it.

[palaeomerus]

" I dont know why every console box doesnt have a seal that must be broken stating that the console is a closed system and by buying the console and opening the box you agree not to hack or circumvent security measures. That way hackers have no excuse."

Okay so I open that sealed box and break that seal and THEN I sell it to a guy who wants to hack a PS3 and he DIDN'T break any seal or agree to anything. What now?

Idiot. Corporations can't make their own laws and when they make preposterous implied contracts they usually have no legal or civil force. What is the supposed consideration extended from the manufacturer to the purchasing party for obeying the implied "contract" ? What magically obligates them to be bound buy a contract before they can use what they bought? Why does buying the product not automatically make it property to be used as the purchaser sees fit (including busting it up for parts!) no matter what the manufacturer wants? What does the purchaser obtain from the manufacturer for obedience to such a stupid implied "contract" supposedly consented to by the act of breaking a seal? WHat do they lose for ignoring it? What if the seal was broken prior to sale by natural forces or an accident?

LOL. EULA's are stupid anti-consumer trash and in most places they are very weak if they apply at all because companies cannot write their own "laws" that supercede even LOCAL laws. They are BUNK.

[kane_1371]

@palaeomerus
no, they are not stupid laws, they are contracts.
and by accepting the term, you have signed a contract.
so with signing the contract, you are forced to do as contract says.
now, in case of hackers, i don't believe it is possible for them to escape this.
cuz most of them have used their ps3 for a longer time then the hack.
so, they would most likely update their ps3 at least once, and already there they go under a contract with sony.
and a contract between two parties is enough in any court.
you have signed a contract, and the result is if you do not follow it, you can be taken to court.
and if proven that you have broken the contract, you will be charged.

[Too_many_games]

Someone needs to throw a sticky grenade on him

[leonlion]

I hope this guy goes to jail and gets free sex

[EvilC]

LOL they will hack there asses in there

[awesomeperson]

That made my day :D

+bubbles to you

[telekineticmantis]

What is the point of this.

[Godmars290]

I can see the point in Sony wanting to protect what is basically their revenue source, but hackers seem to be an example of the advantage "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."

They're like the toddler who feels they have the right to poke a fork in a socket and ends up burning down the family house.

[telekineticmantis]

really... don't see the point of that.

[jerethdagryphon]

I can see the point in Sony wanting to protect what is basically their revenue source, but hackers seem to be an example of the advantage "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."

grammar check its adage not advantage but completely correct otherwise :)

[littlebigmarcpsps3]

so PS3 is hacked its a HUGE problem.
well what about xbox 360,Wii,DS,IDevices eh
i dont see people whining about them.
wait because they not made by SONY
really SONY wont win.all SONY bitches here know that
and system updates is overrated now
they need to stop with useless updates and give us features
or i wont ever update my PS3 anymore
yea thats right, i got a PS3,PSP Wii,IPod soon to own the 3DS
i aint no fanboy.

[EvilC]

Then I guess you wont be playing any new games with update on the disk too bad for you

[fight4lov]

give it a week for a new cfw

[Spartacus5405]

@lilbigmarc

nobody gives a f***

ur 1 man against-the-grain protest isn't important

[Godmars290]

So much for hackers doing what they do for the general good.

[BrianC6234]

Sounds like blackmail to me. This moron better watch out. What country does he live in? He could find the police smashing down his door soon.

[HeartDisease]

if you think sony is going to find this guys ip address your a fucking idiot. i swear to god some of you do not even try to think anymore.

**BREAKING NEWS**"genius level hacker caught thru simple ip search"

[MrBeatdown]

If this guy was really a genius, he would have a nice, well-paying job and wouldn't risk screwing up his life by blackmailing a major corporation over a stupid game console.

[ThanatosDMC]

You dont think the law doesnt employ hackers to hunt down other hackers?

[Burning_Finger]

Take Geoprick for example.

They easily found him. nuff said.

[HeartDisease]

found a guy willing to be the public face of the hacking community? that was hard im sure.

[Fel08]

Why is this guy not in jail yet?????

[palaeomerus]

Probably because you have no idea how any of this really works.

[Op24]

So Geo fails and this guy believes he'll win. All sony has to do is take him (when they find him) right to that California court and he'll say goodbye to life and hello to bars

[Kos-Mos]

Or maybe to Japan? Do you really think Sony is american?

[Whitefox789]

Sony has an American and European branch

SCEA: (Sony Computer Entertainment America)
SCEE: (Sony Computer Entertainment Europe)
SCEJ: (Sony Computer Entertainment Japan)

[Kos-Mos]

And?

[OGharryjoysticks]

Lube up Graf_Chokolo before you become Graf_Chafelo

[beavis4play]

nope - his new name will be graf_chokalot

[Blaine]

Sony: "DMCA."
Dumbass_chokolo: "... or else."
Sony: "Wrong answer."

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Samk18]

Forgive me for sounding dumb but i guess i am when it comes to hacking a system. Ok so the ps3 got hack. Of the 47 million PS3 that has be sold so far how many people do you think knows how to use the tools these guys made to hack the PS3. Im guessing a very small amount. I dont think hacking is as easy as reading an instruction manual. What i hate about these hackers is that they make it public knowledge by creating website to give out codes or tools or whatever it is used to hack. Ok Geohot hacked the system but then he release the codes for it and make it available to anyone who wants it. Of course this will harm Sony, they have every right to sue him and anyone else involved. If these hackers would have just kept everything quiet and shared things with each other instead of bragging it to the world this drama with Sony trying to sue them wouldn't be happening right now. What you do in the privacy of your own home is your business but when you put it on the internet and brag about your accomplishment you deserve what you get. I hope they sue the crap out of these guys.

[Octo1]

OMG! Is it really that worth fighting for?I have to sit down with one of these hackers and explain to me why they are pushing back so hard?So much more worth while causes to fight for.

[CyrusNightshade]

I still don't see how anyone can think Sony is the badguy in all of this. Maybe we should just let bank robbers go free and cheer them on, as long as they steal from the big evil corprate banks...

[GoldPS3]

A billionaire company vs a guy that lives in his moms basement

[a_bro]

yuo would think this guy would back off instead, yet he continues to play with fire.

[GSpartan777]

Sigh, this is where these hackers show their true colors, intent and also that they are somewhat full of shit when they say certain things. They basically asked for this. Just as the PS3 was claimed unhackable for 4 years, hackers stated there was nothing Sony could do about it, no matter how hard they fought. Ultimately, this firmware, despite it being cracked allowed Sony to take a bit of control of the situation and now the hackers only respond to this is blackmail? Comon, at least GeoHotz and FailOver were professional about this.

[DanteKnightsTemplar]

Wish there was a lawsuit that enabled these pirate bastards to be sent to hell.

[DFresh]

These hackers aren't going to do shit.

Sony has it nailed now being able to track these hacker's IP Addresses from any computer.

It doesn't matter what these hackers do unless they have some magical way to hide their IP Address their fucked and their plot is foiled.

Piracy should never be allowed.

It's bad enough piracy had to start on PC but I don't want that shit spreading over to console gaming.
(Finally no more cheaters only legit players.)

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

>Magical way to hide IP Address
>LOLOL YOU NEVAR HURD OFF PROXIES?

[Dellis]

PSN accounts will be hacked by Anomymous watch

I can see him entering this war to help GEO/Hackers

they will expose everyone.

[Hudahudahuda]

Excuse me?

[hakesy]

I wish that these damn hackers would find something better to do with their lives instead of ruining gameplay for people like myself who enjoy playing the games for what they were developed for. I just don't understand what the big deal is or the satisfaction in hacking is. I tried playing Modern Warfare 2 the past couple days and got so pissed because every match I would join online would be some hacked/modded/etc...people super jumping and getting to choose their care package, nukes, AC-130. I turned it off and couldn't play. It wasn't even fun to play. People like you hackers are the ones ruining the other gamers out there who want to play the game and enjoy it the way it was designed/developed.

[RyuCloudStrife]

I just wanna see all these hackers punished, and made an example of.

[N4OGs]

he will say goodbye to freedom and hello to buttsex

[Masterchef2007]

Sony doesnt take threats well. What they are doing is illegal and they know it. They dont have any right in hacking the PS3 and opening it up to pirates.

[Neko_Mega]

Well another hacker an another day on the job for Sony. How long before this hacer is on his knees? Taking bets now.

[JonnyBigBoss]

That guy sounds like a little five year old. He should get a job instead of threatening multi-billion dollar corporations.

[rmedtx]

This guys is cyber-terrorist.

[darkdoom3000]

PS3 is already hacked to hell. Sony has nothing to loose.

[KaiokenKid]

I have two ways of thinking about this:

1. This could be empty threats by someone who is scared and this is their last ditch effort.

2. SONY should really be careful and this could be real.

[jerethdagryphon]

heres the thing sony made the software for the hypwervisor and such , its theres to do with as they please they didnt give permission for bbypasses and such to be made from there code

if iwas sony id find a way to prosecute him and if he decided to release his stuff beat him to the punch with a release of there own

blackamil only works if the plackmailed isnt willing to take a hit to pride or finances briefly

i get a photo of a guy having an affair and threaten to tell his wife unlerss he pays, he says no presses charges and tells his wife the blackmailer now has nothing but is still in violation of the law

[THC CELL]

To the guy with who cant find axxo lol you know he is missing in real life right. He not uploaded for a year now I have even seen post on forums we miss u axxo

[falconm80]

What are the chances of his ass getting rapped when he goes to jail?

[mrmikew2018]

Wow, I never knew these hackers were such attention whores.

[Xenomorph]

Fucking retard hackers need to decide if hacking is worth going to jail and getting ass raped for.

[Prcko]

he can't hide,that's for sure!

[THC CELL]

see what happens when you bootleg lol

[tigertron]

I can't believe such childish immature people out there exist. Clever, but fighting a huge company when you know you're in the wrong is just plain retarded. Hope he gets whats coming to him.

[TheTruth89]

ahhahahahaha try harder "Graf *Chocolate*"

[x5exotic]

-Back off or else...
-or else what??
-exactly.

[maverick40]

This stupid hacker just gave sony some much needed ammo. Congrats fool, you just proved how insecure and pathetic hackers are. It really is just a cry out for attention.

[Darkseeker]

Before you people support Sony on those lawsuits, try and think for a second. The likelyhood that Sony actually win is very very low. There is a very big chance that the hackers will win this case and to top it off, jailbreaking the PS3 will likely become legal in the end, like the iPod, iPad and iPhone.

It will undoubtely happen, since jailbreaking a PS3 is not any different then jailbreaking the iphone.

So those lawsuits will likely end up hurting people who don't use the hack itself. If the thing become legal, then there is not gonna be anymore way to stop hackers.

[jerethdagryphon]

uh no i pad= semi opensystem for work and play
iphone= semi open system for communication

ps3= closed system for playing sony games on only

its nothing like a phone its not covered by the dmca exception because its not meant to have other applications on it

i can write an ipad app and ask apple to put it on the store ican write a song and sellit via itunes

i cant without a great deal of money and references make ps3 games

[Mister_G]

Oh well.... Sony know exactly how the hackers got into the PS3, because they had a press conference about it all, so at least we know that the NGP and PS4 will be 100% secure :)

Hackers / Pirates.... enjoy your fun while you can.

[roflcopters]

"so at least we know that the NGP and PS4 will be 100% secure"

lol i bet you said that exact same thing about the ps3 when the ps2 exploits hit the scene. its only a matter of time before security is compromised.

[jsc249jobal]

@Mister_G:

Nothing is 100% secure. The best and most inconvenient DRM for customers is a 100%, always online scheme, but even those can be hacked.

Hackers are not a bunch of lonely people sitting in their mom's basement. Alot of hackers are very smart and accomplished people who throughly enjoy testing, breaking and writing on any machine they can, people who like a real challenge, and most importantly, are usually people who absolutely do not like when someone tells them what they can and cannot do with something they own.

I wish I had the skills to be a hacker, so I could stick it to some of these big, bullying corporations who nickel and dime their own customers.

Anyways, went on a tangent...nothing is 100% secure as long as the company stifles user created content..period.

[BlueEye]

What a child. Threatening to blackmail them and now its known world wide, if this guy does Sony can sue his ass and put him to jail for the rest of his life, along with any other hacker associated with him. These guy need to learn that Sony won't allow hackers and they need to back off.

[jsc249jobal]

@BlueEye

Sony does not have jurisdiction over every country's legal system. Plus, he could easily just prove it to be slander instead of a viable threat stating that he does not have the know-how to threaten the company instead of a menacing blog.

[TerrorCell]

WTF does this all matter you are all waging this verbal war on these hackers. Let them use the hardware that they paid for, for reasons that they want to use it for. Jebus anyone would think that hacking the ps3 is like someone broke into your house killed your mum, stole your car and burnt your house down. Why is everyone so concerned over this. I mean sony lasted 4 years next gen comes soon and it all begins again

[lodossrage]

Why does it matter to us you ask? I have a better question. As a gamer, why DOESN'T it matter to you?

These hackers aren't some "Robin Hoods". These guys aren't doing it for the sake of "getting back features" Sony took off the ps3. This is about them wanting bragging rights and the ability to play free games. In fact, other OS was taken off BECAUSE of these hackers in the first place.

And it matters for ALL gamers, not just the ps3 owners. If people are pirating games that means potential customers NOT buying the hard work and efforts put out by developers. Which translates out into less sales, then more jobs cut, then less games made.

You have to keep in mind that hardware NEEDS software for longevity. Sure many people will buy it for the custom firmware. But how long do you think that would last with less and less game releases coming out due to everyone pirating free games.

Eventually, if you let this kind of action go unpunished, it can easily go deep enough that these same hackers can get your psn or xbox live info right out of your own system. Will you sit here and tell me you'll be cheering and defending them if you one day found $100 of stuff charged to one of your accounts that you didn't even buy?

[TerrorCell]

You are being too dramatic. Piracy is not going to kill the industry it didnt in the last two generations so it won't this generation especially considering how late in the generation the console security has been breached. How come piracy has not killed the 360? You are a load of drama queens

[lodossrage]

Nobody ever said it would "kill" the industry. I DID say it would cause a serious blow. And in truth, it already has. Many smaller developers are now out of jobs because their games don't sell as well as they're projected out to. Part if that is because the games "might" not be that good. However, another part of it IS because the game gets pirated. Some games are simply to big to be phased by such (for the moment) like COD.

But not everyone has a 10 million plus selling franchise that comes out yearly. So yes when their games get pirated, they take a serious hit.

You say people are drama queens, but make no mistake. IF these hackers penetrate deep enough to the point they can get into your psn or live accounts, you'll be the first one crying "why didn't they do something about this".

[jsc249jobal]

@lodossrage

PS1, PS2, Xbox 360, DS, and Wii are all incredibly easily pirated and have been for the majority of their high selling times.

Heck, the PS2 can be pirated so that you can play hundreds of games off of a HDD and it just FINALLY got surpassed by the DS which you can buy a cartridge for less than $50, insert a micro-SD card and have close to 50 DS games pirated. The software on all of these consoles have made many companies millions of dollars.

Stop going all pyscho-whiney babbly because you think you know business and how game companies are maintained and why they close. Small companies are not shutting their doors because everyone pirated their game. Usually small companies go under because of poor budgeting, not enough marketing, poor quality game design, bad market insight to what gamers want and most importantly, these small companies usually do not have the money to fund a project on a high end console, like the ps3 and 360, and pay for extra polish demanded by the communities to paid around $300-600 for said systems Piracy does not equal insta-death for a console, period.

[user1337]

Not the brightest of responses by this guy.

[Bebop]

@Shoddy

"Geohotz is the first to get hang, or rape in jail by 10 black immates."

Are you saying white boys have small weeners ?

[Hozi89]

You guys. Everything man invented can be used either for right or wrong. If companies had total dominance over all consumers then we might as well be slaves.

I'm in neutral favor for both parties.I simply appreciate the fact.

[MeNoRasta]

Its funny how this one person is giving a giant company a good battle lol.

If Sony is having trouble fighting this person they might as well give up making consoles.

[nano88]

shit is crazy right

[nano88]

thats Fuck up nigga said back off or else damn

[divideby0]

I marvel at the intelligence and at the same time the stupidity of these hackers

[GamingNtek]

What a douche.

[bison812]

This is really sad.....my question is why do you want to do this? There is no point of doing this....I picture a grown man acting like a child and trying to grow up. Sad

[Haseo106]

Wow! They are trashes or maybe even SH_T! They are violating the laws and now they want Sony to stay away from them. Get them Sony! Put all those bastards in JAIL!

[PirateThom]

"Back off or else.... we won't be able to fight a legal battle against you."

I'm just glad a company has the balls to go against these people, if they're hacking for the good of the PS3 why is it STILL only emulators to pirate games on older systems, PS3 "back ups" and cheating online so far?

Oh, that's right, homebrew is just something people say to legitimise hacking as if piracy isn't the main goal of it.

[TheShow01]

and then one day .... a hitman shows up .... Graf_chokolo is thinking was hacking really worth it ?

[fourtwenty2009]

You guys are all a bunch of dweebs! LOL

Do it Graf!

[ZILLA]

the guy who started wikileaks treatened the cia and the fbi and now the guy is no where to be found.he got wacked!

[Look_Behind]

LOL Sony isnt the CIA.

[overthatop]

Lol, cant wait for him to get caught and gets 15 years

[SonyPS360]

Large, powerful corperation vs basement dwelling hacker.

Hmmmm..

[XIIIWARRIOR41]

This guy is a fucking loser! I hope SONY finds his ass and jails him for life!!!

[Strikepackage Bravo]

Wow what a bunch of bullies over at Sony. And why are you guys defending the big corporation, if this was any other company, especially say Microsoft, you would be ripping them a new one, calling them evil corporate greedy capitalists!

So why now are we all a bunch of pro corporate lap dogs?

[jerethdagryphon]

nope id defendv microsoft just as much the reason there big is because they dont let there work get trashed

[espiritu604]

Kevin butler : im ganna get you, you little shit. your in for some deep umpa lumpa shit, kid.When I catch you, you will gaze in my cock and feel despair!

[DJ]

To which Sony says "Welcome to Court"

[SSKILLZ]

Lets see if geo hot can jail brake him self out of jail lmao

[TheShow01]

BBBAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

[falconm80]

Thoses hackers really need a call from ownage pranks! better be from Tyron

[outwar6010]

i rely do hate how sony have dealt with all this hacking

[ForROME]

SONY offer the guy a job - he beat your poeple, cant beat em, join em

Let hackers take on hackers

[jrbeerman11]

to all people who are defending the hackers or suggesting that sony just ignore it....... You have no clue how this really affects you.

saying that xbox and wii ignore it and they are doing fine is ignorant. have you not noticed that wii markets to kids and their parents? that the hardcore gamer is the one most likely to download games for free? Have you missed the millions upon millions of articles and comments bashing MS for following Wii's model of targeting the casual gamer and not the hardcore? This is a result of hacking.

how about COD being the best selling game of all time? then the next one is the best and the next one? why? because hackers needed to buy it to play online (not anymore). even if you can play online you dont think people who are downloading and implementing hacks arent afraid of online play anyways?

the hacks will actually lead to more hardware sales since people will now buy a ps3 knowing the games are free. but who really gets hurt are the developers who make games for us. a company that works hard to give us games will and already are frustrated that they are being robbed and there's nothing they can do about it.

so if the developers we love feel like they are being robbed whats the solution? "barbies dream makeover castle the game" that's what. "petz 9 ferrets and crickets" that's what. nothing but a sea of mmo's thats what.

Most people who say hackers dont effect them are either stealing themselves, or really thinks money grows on trees. the imagination that sony has billions and no one will really suffer is really ignorant. there will be a ton of talented people collecting unemployement, not making the next big game that we never knew could exist.

rant over sorry for wall

[Ares84PS3]

It's clear that the justice system is not working. For these lowlife son of a bitches to be allowed to blackmail and ruin a company such as Sony and by doing so ruining real games fun is just extreamly upsetting to me.

These people must be stopped by any means necessary!

[MWH]

keep delaying, the inevitable.

[Trroy]

Pretty sure blackmail boils down to some felony charges.

How can hackers be so smart, yet so stupid?

[Sarobi]

Some hackers aren't looking for anything logical.. like money, they can't be bullied, bought, reasoned, or negotiated with.. some hackers.. just want to watch the internet burn

[Mudkipz]

one by one, destroy console gaming.. ruin peoples times, make it unfair,

[thorstein]

If this homo ruins the system I paid honest money for, then I will sue him.... luzl.

[gamer0123456]

please ps3 hackers stop your hurting sony and making all us ps3 fans cry......please stop I dont want to shed anymore tears..

o brother

[Reigen]

good idea, go threaten a multy milion dolorar company whith a software that youre gona release anyway...
lets see how long you last in courth

[jukins]

wish these hackers could keep stuff to themselves instead of wanting to enlarge their epeen. then we might not be in this tit for tat mess that basically has affected only the legit consumer,

[iNFAMOUZ1]

yall really think he cares?? lmao, fuck the system

[jjank11]

What a bunch of sheeple commenting on this story. I can't believe anyone in their right mind would support a huge corporation that besides providing entertainment for its followers does very little good for humanity.

I support the hackers because they rightfully buy a product and should be able to do whatever the hell they want with it. Sony could just as easily employ these hackers for very high salaries to protect their systems, well, that is if they truly believed in having a secure system. Surely some hackers would not take the bait because they enjoy beating the system or "the man". If hackers or reverse engineers are not directly profiting from the tangible products then I don't see a problem. Many other corporations out there do much worse than these hackers. This is just another attack on personal freedoms. I'm amazed at how brainwashed the sheeple are to large corporations. They don't care about you, they just care about the $ sign and yes, only in their pocket. Not yours.

[AceofStaves]

You do realize that buying something tangible (the console) doesn't give you ownership rights to the software used by it. By your logic, if I purchase a copy of MS Office, I have the right to reverse engineer or otherwise modify the software and distribute it to other people because I bought the disk the software was on.

Legally, I don't have that right. When I bought the disk, I bought a license to use that software under certain specific circumstances and nothing beyond those circumstances.

There's a world of difference here. I can't believe you would support people who are lawbreaking jackasses.

As to the ass-backwards logic of hiring these people, why would a company do that? Why should a company trust them? Just because they might 'promise' to be good boys and girls from now on? Please. Give me a break.

[jjank11]

Your use of a Microsoft product is bad use for analogy sake. Microsoft has been a horrible company. Surely If I buy a copy of MS Office, I can give it to my buddy, if I so choose. As long as I don't charge for it. You can take the argument that it is intellectual property but books are also considered intellectual property and they can be resold without any issues whatsoever. I don't see how MS Office or anything else is really that much different.

You just have bought into all this legal jargon over what information companies can control. Why don't you just let them run your life, you might as well if you are going to let them dictate how you are able to use products you buy with your hard earned money.

Lawbreaking jackasses.....man, people have become hilarious and bought into all the regulation in society.

There is no ass-backward logic to hiring someone like a hacker. It makes sense. Companies are constantaly trying to gain others assets (employees, etc..) to gain an upper hand, etc.. Surely, it doesn't seem like a good idea but you give a person enough money.....and it can work and if they go behind your back, then you have, without a doubt, every reason to sue them. Easily manageable.

In the end, I'm basically saying I would rather side with the small guy, who has done very little, if any, harm to anyone, versus supporting a large corporation which is most likely doesn't have a good standing on human rights, personal freedoms nor environmental practices and at the end of the day only cares about $$$$. I can find my entertainment value elsewhere. I'm not obligated myself to buy certain products like many others posting to this story.

[Moerdigan]

Back off, SONY, or I'll tell my mom!

[Hashashin]

All these hackers are really beginning to grind my gears.

[fourtwenty2009]

I don't think you've heard.

[--------]

The guy who blows open a bank vault can't just sit back afterwards and say "I TOLD them not to steal after I blasted open the doors!"

- Genius.

[gusst]

u guys r tools. these "hackers" are sharing with us the code to do much more with our ps3s. like backup my huge blu-ray and game collection so no more swapping discs. mkv support, ps2 backwards compatibility, homebrew games, ect.

most important thing is a more reliable web browser for watching porn on my 50"!

[Kran]

he would publish his IDA database if Sony doesnt back off?

Like.... Hes going to do that if Sony back off or not.

[thejfs63]

Why would you continue supporting a console that has to be patched everytime you turn it on? I am done with playstation 3.

[Kran]

The 360 has more patches. This is coming fom someone who owns both consoles. The only reason the PS3 has a lot of patches is to stop s**theads like these hackers, but then they get around it, meaning even more patches.

[turgore]

can they ban him off the internet ? I know some people are.

[bunfighterii]

So wait... this guy gets a injunction on him and threatens to break it? Ever heard of contempt? He'll actually go to jail

[fourtwenty2009]

You're mistaking the subject of this story with Geohot. Two different hackers.

Just one of many many people working to better understand the PS3 and allow consumers the power over the hardware they own. You should thank them both.

[iliimaster]

issues a warning? come on its out already how to hack.... what i want to know is and im sure its very possible that games like uncharted 3 and all if they have their own servers on these online games it will be so much easier to detect when someone trys and put a hacked game and take it online.... and then BAN HAMMER time they need to find away to cripple the hacked ps3s so that way it would be useless

[Ryutamashiisan]

it amazing how many pro hackers r on this site

[fourtwenty2009]

CORRECTED: It's amazing how many pro-corporation, anti-consumer, anti-freedom sociopathic fascists there r on this site and how easily they are herded like sheep to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation and demand harm towards a small individual exercising freedom to use his property.

"Mistrust those in whom the urge to punish is strong."
--Friedrich Nietzsche

[jjank11]

Ahhh....a breath of fresh air!!! ZIIING!

[solar]

thats funny. since ive been on this site ive seen ps3 elitests proclaim how unhackable the ps3 is. how they have rubbed it in the face of nintendo/360/PC gamers.

as a ps3 owner i dont give a shit. i dont play online nor do i plan on using any of these hacks. but consumers have the right to use what they bought the way they want to. pirating (which i dont condone at all) or homebrew and using Linux. the consumer bought it.

MS didnt go after 360 mods because they knew they would lose, and so will Sony.

[solar]

sorry ladies, Sony is gonna lose this one. releasing code means nothing in court. it's the users who abuse the code is who Sony is going to have to go after.

[Laeto256]

im sorry but you cannot actually agree with blackmail that's just wrong in so many ways like really is this guy stupid? Sony may be a company but real people work for it and depend on the products to sell for their salaries.

[hiredhelp]

SONY' do what you did with dark alex ask him if they want a job.

[hiredhelp]

2 disagrees .lol you know nothing then. he he

[NeloAnjelo]

Do your worst hackers. Sony's games will still sell, their console will still sell, and they will still be successful... know why?

Because they make great games, have alot of free content, and support developers... you are all scum that are destroying the industry with every console you hack.

Most of you are pirates not "Hackers". You should be ashamed.