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Hackers Leave Companies with One Choice: Online Gaming Subscriptions

To some, Geohot is a hero but to those with foresight, people like him are the biggest reason why games will literally be taken out of our possession. Sony’s attempts at legal restitution failed simply because the console physically belonged to Geohot once he bought it. But rest assured, Sony pursued legal actions to send a message to all gamers…”you have pushed us too far.”

Miiikeyyy4858d ago

Hackers ruining gaming even more...

Dante1124858d ago (Edited 4858d ago )

"Should Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo care about “net neutrality” especially when growing numbers of gamers currently hack their consoles and pirate their games?Absolutely not. These companies are here to make money and unfortunately, the current model has proved troubling. Hackers may be the victors now but their arrogance will cost all of us a heavy price. Soon we will have no legal recourse, no ownership, and no control over how much we can play."

Boo! The "bad" hackers messed it up for everyone.

Miiikeyyy4858d ago

hope Sony ban everyone who's hacking, they deserve it

DA_SHREDDER4858d ago

If you have 3-G, then you wouldn't have to worry about never having the internet unless the satellite blows up, then you would not have internet anyways. It really isn't that big of a deal if the ps4 is a handheld. I've been saying it for years that was what the model was gonna be. All I got were disagree's. Oh well. I rather have it this way and prices be cheaper for everything, in the long run, it was for the best.

evrfighter4857d ago (Edited 4857d ago )

hackers ruining online gaming?

sorry but hackers have been around since the dawn of online gaming. They are a group you will have to live with. PC gaming evolved into dedicated servers which then evolved to fully controlled and moderated servers.

It's always been up to us to keep online gaming fun. If online console gaming is changing for the worse, it's because corporate says so. Now be a good little sheep and buy into it some more so that they can justify charging you to play online.

Cenobia4857d ago (Edited 4857d ago )

@DA_SHREDDER

"If you have 3-G, then you wouldn't have to worry about never having the internet"

I do not think this is an option. Have you ever tried buying a mobile internet card from any company? They all have like a 60MB cap (or something ridiculously small I don't remember the number). They are also slow as sh!t. I have never seen a mobile device that is capable of any kind of graphics intensive mobile multiplayer gaming.

You are talking about global wi-fi which I don't think we'll see before I finally get a fudgin hard line run up to my house. 3G and 4G are marketing bullsh!t. I don't think there is a single company that provides a "4G" service that didn't just decide on their own (read: make up) what 4G is supposed to mean.

I have satellite internet and the latency is way too huge for any real multiplayer experience. We'll see On-Live take off before everyone turns to global WiFi.

The size of the device you are proposing also limits the technology. Sure we could have a mobile device that matches the PS3 now, but we could also have a device the size of a PS3 that absolutely destroys both devices.

badz1494857d ago

I'll curse all the douchebags for the rest of my life!

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LunaticBrandon4858d ago

Yeah but the way companies handle it is no better. Hackers are still enjoying their games while consumers are the people getting fucked.

MintBerryCrunch4857d ago

you just described the movie industry...you have to deal with 10 minutes worth of FBI warnings and previews with a legit copy, yet a ripped movie has great quality and the one thing you are looking for: The Movie

WhiteNoise4857d ago

@MYK1992

Actually the only reason I bought the following games.

Bioshock, Bioshock 2, Mirrors Edge, Dead Space, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Farcry 2, Red Alert 3 etc etc

was because there was cracks available. I don't go online to register games I paid for. You don't call up for an activate code for your car when you want to drive it, having to register online or bow to insane illegal EULA's is B.S.

Hackers are keeping gaming going. Pirates are also probably the only reason why games are not even more expensive. With a free alternative available they need to make games appear to have more value ( they are not doing a very good job...but still... )

Pirates or hackers or not, they are still going to make you have to register for PSN ( for which you have to agree to TOS ) so you can patch games THAT YOU PAYED FULL RRP FOR; that do not work on day 1.

There is only one way around that kind of monopolisation, open the platform up and work around their restrictions.

DongHungLong4857d ago

"You don't call up for an activate code for your car when you want to drive it"

That line is so old and is a stupid comparison. Vehicles are physical objects. Video games are not physical objects. And no just because you bought it on a disk doesn't make the game itself physical.

It doesn't matter what you say, its doing nothing but hurt legit gamers.

And if you weren't such a block-head you would realize that your need to crack games to avoid registration spawned from the need to keep pirates from... OMG ARE YOU READY??? stealing games...

palaeomerus4857d ago (Edited 4857d ago )

" Vehicles are physical objects. Video games are not physical objects."

A lame excuse to "sell" us non-property as though it were property but then treat it as non-property after the sale. Software is supposedly "magic beans" that don't work like other forms of property which is why it needs it's own silly set of new property laws that just happen to screw the consumer.

" It doesn't matter what you say, its doing nothing but hurt legit gamers. "

No, PUBLISHERS are hurting legit gamers and using pirates as their lame excuse to do it. Sadly they are not hurting the pirates. The pirates still pirate.

" And if you weren't such a block-head you would realize that your need to crack games to avoid registration spawned from the need to keep pirates from... OMG ARE YOU READY??? stealing games..."

And if YOU weren't such a blockhead you'd realize that the presence of those cracks indicates that REGISTRATION DOES NOT STOP PIRATES FROM STEALING ANYTHING AT ALL. It just inconveniences the legitimate customer so much that he sometimes looks for a pirate's crack to play a legitimately bought game without experiencing the "needed" inconvenience or JUST DOESN"T BUY THE DAMNED GAME AT ALL.

It's not a solution for ANYTHING. It's just a bad and stupid reaction from publishers that harms their customers without harming pirates it's supposedly targeting.

Kran4858d ago

NOW LOOK AT WHAT GEOHOT HAS DONE.

Boo Geohot >:(

Bloodraid4857d ago

Please learn what you're talking about before doing so.

Kran4857d ago

Frankly I know what Im talking about.

Miiikeyyy4857d ago

He knows what hes talking about, Geohot is pretty much to blame for most of the ps3 hacking

Bloodraid4857d ago

Uhh; no. Fail0verflow did a majority of the hacking, not Geo. And don't blame them for this kind of shit; blame the people who are actually using this to gain an unfair advantage. Bloody idiots.

Octo14858d ago

Hope it does not come to this but when push comes to shove.

TANUKI4857d ago

Is this similar to the online pass thing (ala Dead Space 2)?

WhiteNoise4857d ago

What a load of crap.

They have online gaming subscriptions and DLC so they can rip people off even more.

Let's do the 'value for money' maths.

Last gen a $60 game would have got you 20hrs of SP gaming as well as offline/co-op MP with bots as well as potentially online.

Now games are 6-8hrs with online only MP with map packs to ensure you have to buy them to stay active with the MP...

Hackers are always the scapegoat, but not the reason.

WITH online DRM piracy is at all all time high, it does not stop piracy.

I could go right now and grab any MMO I want from a torrent site and play on a private or pirate server ( or ever offline with a server emulator or over LAN ). The fickle masses will keep handing their money over no matter what and they will continue to blame the few people who AREN'T STUPID ENOUGH TO PAY FOR CRAP.

For the 'reason' why the many have to suffer.

If gaming goes online only then I will pirate all my games.

There is no 'chicken or the egg' argument, DRM discourages purchases.

wollie4857d ago

i was coming in here to say the same thing. Hackers will ALWAYS find a way. The only way to beat hackers to to start pricing games reasonably like what they are doing on steam with their really awesome sales.

charging more (via online subs) will only increase piracy. Lower prices not higher will end piracy.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno10d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers19d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g19d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing19d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H919d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola19d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66919d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle19d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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