“It’s really getting old and tight” in the current space, says Crysis 2 developer
But for the PS3 and Xbox360 ? i dont think so. What i think will happen is that the Nintendo will get a really good head start with their next console. The coming years will become really interesting.
Same here. I dont know. things will definatly change in 2013. But this guy is a smart man. he doesnt talk out of his ass like most developers do
They'll be announced either this year or the next. This guy is spot on, if you look at the games, the consoles age is starting to show, especially if you compare it with a high-end PC and what it can do right now. People act like this gen is going to be forever, but in fact it's almost over. Developers have already received the specifications of the new consoles, and are already working on games for them. They're not far off.
I still doubt PS4 will launch on 2013. But successors for the Wii & xbox will arrive. Those are really "Next GEN" ??????
360 will be 8 years old in 2013. Xbox lasted only 5 years before 360 came along so its surely possible. It all depends on how sales go this year and next, if they slow down, definetly during 2013, if they hold up or increase, well then probz 2014.
Actually Xbox lasted only 4 years.
2012 or 13 but hes right. xbox was only 4 years
I hope Apple beat MS and Sony to the punch and bring out a console that would make Geohotz cry.
oh my fucking god! how many casual games do we need!?
Yeah because we need an apple console that cost's twice as much for the same parts and performance as a Microsoft/Sony equivalent right? wouldn't that be awesome for the industry. This is coming from an Iphone 4 owner, Apple having nothing interesting or insightful to bring to the industry other then over priced hardware. I mean I have to laugh my ass off every time I read the back of my phone. "Designed by Apple California Assembled in China" Stfu Apple your just to stuck up to say Made in China like the rest of the world. But at least more Chinese people will commit suicide if they do start manufacturing consoles right? They already overwork there Chinese workers so much that there's been a string of suicides in the past 2 years.
i dont think there will be another xbox/720 type console with the way things have headed.. lack of hardcore games, interest in the pc gaming market, interest in d/l only, occupied with kinect.. wouldn't be suprised if microsofts next console was "kinect 2" where being pretty small games everything was d/l only, just a small box + the camera.. i think the current consoles will last longer than 2013 anyway
In consoles for just over a year and suddenly they know everything.... What weight does it hold that a game developer is saying this? ummm none. Try asking the first parties, ala, nintendo, microsoft or sony, think they might know a little more.
If you read the article instead of getting defensive like a fangirl; you would have read him state that he DOES NOT THINK a new console will actually come then, but that he hopes for it because current tech is ( to paraphrase in my terms ) 'outdated as fu<k'.
but in console terms it isn't out dated.. in hardcore pc gaming terms they are.. theres a difference, update the consoles to high gaming pc spec standards and the cost goes up, thats not what console gamers want.. i console game because its fairly cheap and fits into my lifestyle more than pc gaming does, if it starts becoming more like a PC in terms of gaming/cost then i might aswell get a better PC..
@xAlmostPro You're dealing in black and whites here. Before 2007 is was primarily a console gamer. When the 360 launched, I was playing doom 3 on a 3 year old second hand $50GPU...and doom 3 looked better than any 360 game at the time on my PC.... This gen was dated at launch whereas previous generations were a big leap forward. IMO this gen is not much improved over last in terms of visuals. The reason I switched to PC ( after owning all 3 consoles last gen, and every nintendo console and handheld prior ) is becuase this generation of consoles offered nothing new. Not one new I.P worthy of note at launch. With console games costing $10-20 more than PC games as well as insane launch prices of consoles, PC is most certainly cheaper.
whitenoise - if games like KZ3, gears3, uncharted 3, ME2, batman:AC, resistance 3 are signs that consoles are outdated - then, i'm happy with outdated. and we still haven't seen games like elderscrolls:skyrim or agent yet.........i think current consoles (except wii) can go on till 2014 with new versions sometime in late 2015. edit below: Ju - well said and bubbles for that.
Yes, agree with redd0r. Console business is all about building on custom SW and tools and the ROI for those engines. Not sure what business model Crytek is goinf after, well they sell middle ware, too. But yet, they didn't make a dime on any console games (nor their engine), yet. Without selling crysis (to consoles) and making a postmortem financial analysis this statement is naive in both technical and financial terms. Sounds like the fangirls would say just because you gotta optimize your input data to an embedded target. Guess what, this is how the whole embedded market works (and not just gaming as such). From someone who leads a company I'd expect a more solid statement not a pure "but I want more ram and faster cpu" statement.
“It’s really getting old and tight” That's what she said. I bet they can't wait to dig in & get their hands dirty, eh?
They don't get tighter as they get older....
Pillville Good one buddy, that made me chuckle quite a bit.
I smell preemptive damage control from Crytek as they can not get the console version up to speed or look as the released trailers.
tell you in about 30 mins
right now and its easily the best looking 360 game ive seen, they have done an amazing job and as for the control issue hilighted bi ign its bollocks its just not cod like enoughfor them i think. the controlls feel nice and weighted
That's really good to hear. I knew ign were wrong. They're mostly incompetent when reporting on games. Can't wait to play this game... Hope they put out a demo for ps3 and pc tho i would like to play before crysis 2 releases
if it looks this good on 360 i cant imagine what it will look like on pc. crytek have done a stunning job with this and its exceeded my ecpectations 10 fold. The only thing I have to decide now is which console to buy it on.
the textures are all over the place and yea i was using 1080p. Gonna try it at 720 to see if its the upscaling. Gears 3 looks better overall to me. Also ign was way off on that lag. its actually to fast I had to put my settings on like 10(default 25) Lighting is also to dark and gamma is to high on default
I like what i'm hearing. And to jetlian the 360 is natively darker on most games cause of a setting for display that is always on at least low unlesd you use component. Unfortunately i can't pick which platform i can play on so i hope they release a ps3 demo before release
I am using hdmi and this is the only game that needed changing. i find it depending on where your at on the map is what makes or breaks the lighting and 1080p is better overall my gamma was off.
Crytek, I know you're pc devs and all but, you do realise this gen is far from over? Unless, you want to give billions to Nintendo,Sony and Microsoft for the economical shitstorms they've gone through. This is why I hate it when devs open their mouth about this sorta stuff. Make great games,thats it. The next gen will come the sec the hardware players in the industry want it to.
Yea, so old and tight. Is that the reason you guys are only about to release your first game on consoles this gen? How long will it take them to when the new gen consoles come out. They'll probably have their next next gen engine up and running by then and won't release a game on it for another 5 years. There is still a bit that can be done on this gen hardware...In my opinion at least. The PC has been next gen for about 4 years now anyway.
A recent play of RDR and Vanquish on 360 has convinced me that we dont need a new gen just yet, they look fantastic with even these games wowing me 5 years on, PC gaming is just a waste of money at the moment, all that hardware and console game are still wining best graphics awards like RDR and GOW3 the developers just have no need for that kind of hardware especially for potentially such little sales so the next gen wont start until the new consoles come out but obivuosly you still get the blind upgraders, throwing money out of the window, I upgrade but only because of my 3D work and even then the last upgrade was 18 months ago I just replayed GOW3 which deservedly so won most of the best graphics awards of 2010, its looked better than anything on my PC and with 4/5 year old hardware? if that doesnt tell you everything nothing will
I can't really rag on upgraders because I used to be one but yea consoles are specifically built to withstand years of graphical upgrades. They are platforms that have the same specs no matter what so a dev can optimize their engine so well given these unchanging specs and produce so really quality jaw dropping graphics. Hell if I had the money to I would get a beast pc to play crysis 2 on but I don't so the consoles out now are fine for the moment. The thing is if the consoles out now could have the specs that pc's do now games on consoles would look like nothing anyone has seen before...I think next gen console will have upgradability via plug in peripherals. Like adding more memory to the gpu or more speed and that will make it last longer, That's what they should have done this generation. Giving the games out now a higher resolution and fps would significantly prolong this gen but I have no idea how hard that would be to implement.
with you till you said RDR and GOW3 get graphic awards. PC are usually not included in console awards. I like gow3 and RDR was ok but they are good at what they tried to do but they weren't all that techincal. Reason people want more tech is so all the cheap games get exposed. Next gen COD better have distruction if its gonna compete.
@gillri If you are content in playing games in a resolution HALF what I was using 8 years ago ( 1600x1200 v 1280x720 ) with a field of view that is not even widescreen ( 55-75 console v 90-100 standard on PC ) at 30 frames average with dips below 20 incl screen tearing, then by all means enjoy it. But PC gaming is not a waste of money. GOW3 does not look better than anything on PC. It doesn't even look better than DMC4 on PC which is even older than GOW3. Go through the PC screenshot thread in the forums and soak it up.
ps4 might be out by 2014 xbox 720 should be out around 2012 nintendo wii there should be an upgrade at least before e3 2011 but dont know because nintendo are doing fine with the wii numbers unless it declines i think 360 has already reaches its peak but the ps3 hasnt yet . but ps3 will be starting i think once this gen is over i really dont think multiplatforms will push the ps3. i think the only one who will push the ps3 to the max its either sony or square enxis with ffvs 13 or agent. peace out?
until there is a really huge ground breaking technology. Something that will make having a ps3 or a ps4 like night and day. Sony wont jump into next gen until there is something like that being created. PS3 games are already hands down better than PC games and im not talking about pixels so u PC egotist need to cut it out.
Then why does almost every multiplat play tremendously better on a PC? O.o The simple fact is that the hardware of the current consoles is out-dated. The devs can continue to dance around the hardware limitations, but there's a limit to that. Crysis with graphical-mods is a clear night and day difference between anything the current consoles offer. Two or three years sounds like a good estimate.
Lol the fact you started off your post using a multiplat as a defense makes your entire post not worth reading.
has proved to me we dont need new consoles yet, it looks stunning even on the 360 so imagine what they will be able to do with crysis 3 with a more optimized engine. I reckon 2013 but if the prophacys true then well all be dead by then anyway lol so this is infact the most powerful consoles are going to get
2013 is a good time, if you want to be stuck with this lame bottlenecked gen then by all means go ahead. I want this gen of consoles to finish, if I could I would destroy Microsoft, Nintendo & Sony's console manufacturing plants just to stop it. This gen's garbage.
I would rather have more quality games made for this generation. The last thing I want is developers trying to learn new hardware when they haven't fully utilized this gen. Another point, at least in the States, is our broadband infraustructure can barely handle this gen.
Here's what the next consoles will have... - downloadable games, no more physical media, cheaper costs for games since no packaging required - An SSD with 6GBPS dl speed or a hologrpahic storage solution - 120hz and 1080P native - An easier architecture to develop for, but with next gen hardware. Idea being dev costs will be reduced allowing better products made, and again, cheaper costs at market - And last but not least, all the major console companies will merge together and create Optimus Prime. Despite all of this being extremely possible, this won't happen till about 2014-2016 (IMO, it depends) due to costs of SSD's, or the fact that holographic storage isn't out yet... Also, 802.11ac and ad should be coming out around 2014-2016 and provide speeds capable of downloading a load of gigabytes in a few minutes, so maybe they are waiting for that?
"downloadable games, no more physical media, cheaper costs for games since no packaging required" People keep saying that and they keep being wrong. Download only systems don't work yet, people don't have faith in it. It will continue to work as it works now on the next consoles the only change will be that you'll have the option to download it if you'd rather, day one.
There not wrong, just guessing too early, right now, netflix is owning the digital media sector, ive heard blockbuster is having trouble keeping up. Lets say you download a game. You play it. And you wanna play another one, no cd exchange, just switch on the fly. Then, oh no, your hard drive crashes, well, redownload the games (hopefully the companies would allow unlimited downloads of a paid 4 product on one console) I think thats worth it, i dont care about used games as long as i can redownload my deleted games IMO my point is, new consoles will be able to play physical media, they just wont sell physical media games for that console... look at the miracle of Steam
And who's going to buy the consoles? we are all broke and in debt!!! :(
2014 is when the new consoles will drop.
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