why would they be worried. Now every console has been hacked badly and the PC market is full of mods and hacking. If they were worried they would have been worried a long time ago. But the PS3 hack changes nothing
Cheers, my nic-name is Chewah as I have an excess bit of skin on one of my ears (a bit like Spock) and it stuck, but I am also a Star wars Fan(Geek, ha!). When I was 7 my Irish mother and aunt fancied Spock and used to have my hair cut the same way with the pointy locks, I hated it but they would say isn't he gorgeous, ha ha! Childhood torments eh!?!
You should have been around here a couple of years ago. Gabe was a fat, lazy bastard who knew nothing about coding games or running a business. All he did was sit around all day and eat hamburgers.
SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Don't tell anyone it changes nothing as they will have to find something else to moan and cry and write PS3 is doomed articles about.
I still don't get what the big deal is about this. it's not like it's the only console thats hacked.
Compared to the 360 it's silly easy. On the 360 you have to do some hardware manipulation - according to what we've heard about the ps3 hack it's just a software thing.
360: - hardware change = deterrent. publishers like. - specific models [ subsets of subsets..]. publishers like. - active banwaves: the hack you had a year ago is probably dead now. publishers like. ps3: - Software patch = tempting. publishers not like. - all models ever made, ever will be made. publishers not like. - PSN isn't as actively moderated as Live. Publishers not like.
Whilst it'll not suffer the same fate as the psp consider that it could. A platform is nothing without developer & publisher support and if the publishers find that after having to spin out so much cash to develop for the ps3 their investment is bunk because half the ps3 populace start pirating everything then they'll just drop support.
The best you'll get is shoddy ports. You'll still get exclusives but then the devs will consider why they're exclusive on a platform that's not fulfulling their sales potential [even more so than before].
It's absolutely rotten news for the *business* of ps3, not for the gamers themselves [yet].
On topic: of course valve's not bothered about it, they live off an open platform without DRM i'm sure they can survive.
The only flaw to your evident fact is that it relies on sony not to adapt to the circumstances (Which is a piss poor assumption).
When microsoft had the 360 hacked, they came out with a revised model. Much like Sony would.
When Microsoft realized that ANY 360 could be hacked, they resorted to banwaves. Much Like Sony would.
You assume that Sony is incapable of adapting to the circumstances when they have plenty of expendable resources to keep the system protected. They are fully capable of banwaves and model revisions. They are a hardware company with media to protect.
"So what can Sony do? It can easily move on to new keys that do indeed use the random number element correctly, and these keys cannot be easily reversed. However, it cannot revoke the keys already used without invalidating every game and every piece of DLC released to date – and while those compromised keys remain valid, so does everything else signed by the hackers. Just about the only option available is to create a mammoth "white list" of executable code encompassing every single game and DLC patch released in the last four years and then blacklist anything else using the current keys.
However, the scale of this task is monumental – and ultimately pointless – as the Fail0verflow team have already demonstrated that revocation lists in the PS3 can be patched and that there is complete access to the system throughout its now-broken "chain of trust". New loaders using the new keys can simply be patched to accept the revoked older keys too. Making matters worse for Sony is the fact that the "master keys" for the PS3's initial bootloader – which can never be revoked and only changed with revised hardware – were uploaded onto the internet last night by iPhone hacker George Hotz (aka Geohot), using an exploit unknown even to the Fail0verflow team. This is system access at the very root of the system, a "master key" to the whole architecture."
You cannot change this without altering the very kernel of the system. It's beyond Sony to do much about this, they simply aren't capable. Even if Sony update the hardware, update the kernel and all that stuff then all anyone needs to do is load up a hack that's signed under a code that has to work and use that to break open the system again.
They'll be planning the ps4 with this in mind. good luck with back compat in the ps4 btw.
So all I've really read in all your bullshit is that Sony are gonna have to keep on changing things so that the hackers have to keep on trying to crack stuff. Just like Microsoft already do. You say the only thing Sony can do a mammoth White list but that's to much effort. Well I'm betting Sony don't think that lol. All your comments come across as if Sony don't give a shit and ain't gonna do anything lol
That is again very idiotic. Your perspective on this is very narrow-minded. Everything is disbursed via PSN including game patches (Which goes through sony QA before being a live download). If the game is patched to have a different key that would be read by the firmware which has the corresponding key.
Which effectively solves the problem of a mammoth white list entirely by not creating one. Every game would receive a 2 MB patch when a game starts on a PS3 connected to PSN. If you opt out of the game update, you opt out of PSN. Problem solved.
You think that sony won't spend the time and money to code a masterkey and have the content providers not patch their games to protect themselves? That itself is a joke.
In regards to older games, servers are pulled all the time to make room for newer games, only games that are effectively online would receive this patch (because I am sure nobody would care if NBA 2K6 or Haze is not patched). Making this is a non-issue as well.
Well all I can say is, I just went out and bought a 2 TB external HDD that will help me finally get some use out of my PS3. :) With the Jailbreak, PS3 can only do everything!
How is that supposed to help? The Ps3 only recognizes fat32 file systems for their external usb hdd, which means any games over 4GB you can't save on the external drive.
@Raven_Nomad your a idiot, your stealing from the company that invests their own money into making the game so you steal the game you steal the money they use for making more games. eventually they wont have a profit and you will see more companies disband. R.I.P. Timesplitters 4 :[
Valve is right. He's not like Activision who is blaming the MW2 & Black Ops hacks are because of the PS3 Hacks. Sooner or later, Sony will shut all the hackers up by releasing a new Software Update!
But Software Upgrades can BAN accounts of Gamers who use Hacked Software from 1-2 months. That can scare them, so they won't dare to used HACKED SOFTWARE anymore.
What a great idea! I will go an get a 2TB for my PS3 as well, don't be mad because some of us well hack OUR PS3s! I well also keep 2 of them Unhacked but I am going to see if I can run Windows, OsX and Linux side by side, and let's see what else my newly hacked PS3 can do, Pirated games I've never been into I understand what happens if developers don't get their money, We ALL suffer! But honestly I am very excided at the fact the I will be able to do EVERYTHING I want with my PS3!
Valve is wrong! They said "At All" that is already incorrect! Pirates will take their game and play it for free, Candy coat it all you want, but the fact is that just like the Xbox, EVERY single game from now on will lose partial money to Pirates. And almost every game now in days will see hackers online, maybe not as many but they wil be there.
Now you all can start hitting the disagree button because I said the truth. But truth hurts.
Valve, shrugging it off like a boss.
why would they be worried. Now every console has been hacked badly and the PC market is full of mods and hacking. If they were worried they would have been worried a long time ago. But the PS3 hack changes nothing
I think Valve know a thing or two about piracy - it's why they created Steam to begin with.
For sure, Steam might end up being the saving grace for Sony this year too. Lets hope Portal 2 proves a great testing ground for anti-piracy.
Valve > Activision and Treyarch