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Why Microsoft Kinect Needs Peter Molyneux

GameRant's Steve Pendlebury writes, "10 years ago, Peter Molyneux created a game played exclusively by hand-gestures. Now this history in gaming’s niche ‘god game’ genre may be a great opportunity to realize Kinect’s potential."

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Incipio5262d ago

Why Kinect DOESN'T need Molyneux:

He is the most notorious over-promiser and under-achiever in the game developer world. That is NOT what you need spearheading a new product like Kinect.

doa7665262d ago

no oen needs that idiot, he's a hack, the purest definition of mediocrity I can think of

Ryudo5262d ago

I actually sort of like him lol, I can look at him listen to him talk look at his dodgy eyes know hes lying out his ass hole and still be interested in what he has to say.

Because I honestly believe he doesn't know what planet hes on, and it the best thing about people like that is regardless of how stupid they act there always if nothing else entertaining.

EVILDEAD3605262d ago (Edited 5262d ago )

Peter is a human 'quote fest'

Who cares about the fan kid haters..I love the way he promotes games games..Micrsoft was wise to promote him to the new gig..

I also love how he's not scared to criticize his own games..but IMO he OVER criticizes his games..Fable series is a blast

Rumor is there is a Fable Kinect game in the making..thatr would be a cool announcement @ E3

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Biggest5262d ago

He criticizes his games AFTER they've been released and no where near as awesome as he promised they would be.

Before release: This game might just make you pancakes after giving you the best sex you've ever had.

After release: I took a dump on a disk. Sorry, guys. I don't like it either.

EVILDEAD3605262d ago

'He criticizes his games AFTER they've been release'

LOL..so NOW people are pretending that Developers should criticize their games BEFORE they are released..makes complete sense..

Peter simply keeps it real..when he looks back on an aspect of a game he doesn't like he'll say he may have been too ambitious and it didn't work like he had wished..he's not the first developer or the last to want to look back on a game and try to improve it for the next iteration.

Again the best part of Peter is he's not afraid to do it..even at big conferences..

The best part is his games are a blast and the stuff he's hard on doesn't even take away from the overall experience.

IMO..Fable 2 was one the funnest RPGs this gen..played it 3 times in a row for all of the endings

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Godmars2905262d ago

He criticizes his games after they're released, *AFTER* talking about how immersive if not innovative they'll be *BEFORE* they're released. Talks about immersion and innovative he'd like to or plans to include anyway. The man's earned the rep for doing just that for a reason.

Inside_out5262d ago (Edited 5262d ago )

...Peter is a true gamer in many ways. The haters here don't even own 360's or play his games...doesn't matter, his better days are ahead not behind.

His Milo work with Kinect will be a big part of his next game. As a matter of fact he recently, at M$ and Epics request demoed the Milo tech demo for the boys at Epic...wonder what that will lead to.

Milo was real as was the tech involved. It's up to the developers to use the technology. Here's a live demo...notice the player is sitting...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Doesn't matter what people think of the man...his games will speak for him. The genre that Fable is a part of is changing drastically...at least on consoles. Hope to see him at E3 with something new.

DigitalRaptor5261d ago

@ Evil

I respect the man. He has some great concepts, but he also annoys me too. He thinks his games are gonna be the most amazing games ever and promotes them heavily, but then they turn out to be less than everyone expected.

Fair enough he has the balls to critisize his own games, but surely AFTER critisizing one game, the next game should build on those flaws and he shouldn't really have to critisize his next one much.

The biggest problem with his games are, that the concepts he comes up with are amazing - he is a real visionary - but the delivery of these concepts is where it fails. I'm sure a lot of Peter's workforce don't know what the hell he's talking about much of the time.

@ Cez

You don't need a 360 to play all his games buddy.

People don't just dislike Peter because he's affiliated with M$ you know. He brings on those feelings through his actions and what he says. He's just like an excited child who has found his playground. He needs to control himself and his ideas.

If he can translate those ideas effectively to a game involving the use of Kinect, then that's good. But I can see history repeating itself with the man: Overhyping the Kinect functionality and calling it a game changer, but then again it might not even be a change that gamers like, let alone something they were expecting.

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Megaton5262d ago

They don't need to call in the experts. They've already got over-hyping and under-delivering covered.

Obama5262d ago

they certainly need him for the hype

Godmars2905262d ago

Thought it had Molyneux. Given that Milo is either canceled, still under development or a tech demo.

hamburger1235262d ago

As if Kinect need more hype.

that thing sells as a muffucka.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain17d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198117d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK16d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts16d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK16d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT19d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits19d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel119d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic19d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN18d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel118d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica19d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14918d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga18d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania19d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts19d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7719d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7719d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts19d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7718d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb18d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow19d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor19d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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Peter Molyneux recalls how Project Milo, the Kinect game with revolutionary promise, died a death

Vapourware can end up being the stuff of legend, like Rockstar's Agent, Star Wars 1313, or StarCraft: Ghost. Without ever seeing the light of day, these games never risked the possibility of being played and forgotten, and instead live on forever as the subjects of lengthy YouTube essays.

Still, Molyneux's most notable lost game (or tech demo, depending on who you asked at the time) was arguably Project Milo.

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darthv7226d ago

I can see the potential of the kinect hardware... its rather impressive tech, but it was just not meant to be for gaming. If anything, MS had a huge missed opportunity to have used it for the AR/VR projects.

S2Killinit25d ago

Missed opportunity? They lied. It was the biggest lie in gaming history.

merlox25d ago

You can use the Kinect as an SLS camera for paranormal investigations. So it wasn’t a complete failure.

Cacabunga25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Remember Star Wars Kinect announcement? Biggest laughable acting seen

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rlow125d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Do you mean about project Milo?

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-Foxtrot26d ago

It was built on lies Peter...you know this.

isarai26d ago

Bro that thing NEVER existed, what we got was a concept video

Knushwood Butt26d ago

"Unfortunately, as we were developing Milo, so the Kinect device was being developed. And they realised that the device that Alex Kipman first showed off would cost $5,000 for consumers to buy.

"So they cost-reduced that device down to such a point, where the field-of-view...I think it was a minuscule field-of-view. In other words, it could only just see what's straight in front of you."

Hmm, exactly what tech was in it, that was cut, affected the development? It was only ever interpreting visual and audio inputs right? The xbox was processing those inputs.

Nor do I see how the field of view thing is relevant to the discussion.

isarai25d ago

Exactly! Tf kinda BS statement was that? i don't really see how fov is relevant at all, since when do you move all around a room while talking/interacting to someone?

Amplitude25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

This is entirely untrue. There was never a 5000 dollar Kinect prototype that could somehow use a wider field of view to scan and import generated in-game items and advance AI by over a decade. Anybody that fell for this was a stupid moron child, myself included. Anybody that falls for this lie now is a stupid moron child who doesn't realize that these people *only* know how to lie.

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