GB writes: Epic’s Dev boss, Cliff Bleszinski has a unique take on the situation. He states that PC gamers who are unhappy about this as being “grumpy”
Im sorry Cliff, but I have to disagree with you for once. PC Gamers have just as much right as console gamers with demos and such, and deserve a demo just like us. I bet if there were a Portal 2 demo, and the only people who would get it would be PC people, I bet he would be like: CONSOLE PEOPLE DESERVE A DEMO, NOT PC FOLK
comments like this only show how bright he is.
Cliffy D-bag is a numbskull. He's always ready to open his mouth and say something stupid. EPIC games doesn't care much about its own roots, I guess. @Below That's a goofy excuse. Of COURSE we're talking about someone RELATED TO THE GAME INDUSTRY and not some random internet D-bags. "who says things people don't want to hear" Like nonsense, yes.
@HolyOrangeCows To be fair, I think it's only fair to point out that you just described 98% of the internet. The only reason he gets so much hate is because he's a well-known developer who says things people don't want to hear.
Douche Huge is just gonna get his game pirated a bit more because of this decision. A lot of PC gamers who actually spend money on games will pirate them if there's no demo to test it out.
I've never liked Cliffy B. I always thought he was an arrogant douche, and this just reinforces that notion. Well I was kinda looking forward to Bulletstorm until I was reminded of what a [email protected] Cliffy B is.
PC gamers should get the demo too.
He seems to have forgotten the people that supported Epic Games from the beginning. Saying such things might actually push people to pirate it just to try and get one back at him.
I think it's more EA decision then epic.
LOL @ the Cliffy hate... Petition from PC community inbound.. Evil
Ahaha can we please stop calling him Cliffy B. Please? In other news Epic games gave up on their roots when unreal engine 3 and the xbox 360 came out. Pc gamers shouldn't really be surprised but still this is just a really dumb comment. I'd be grumpy if the console version didn't get a demo. He just thinks that he can get away with it because as long as he has the console fans sucking his little d, the game will still be successful and make profit. Most western companies have turned their backs on the pc gamers that supported them on the way up. It's ok tho cause they'll see them all on the way down. Don't think those same companies won't turn their backs on the current fans if kinect and casual gaming gimmicks start selling massively.
what do you want us to call him clifford?
Your the one losing money cliff
This is cheap publicity I think. Or in other words hes a console fanboy.
what he's talking about, I hope he's not grumpy when noone buys the PC version of the game.
No PC demo might not buy, so chew on that Cliffy (muppet!)
Never liked this guy. Most hated: 1. Bobby Kotick 2. Cliffy B.
I don't hate him, i just think some of what he says is complete BS.
yeh and thats exactly why i hate that bobby guy and because over priced stuff
Everyone tags Cliffy B “grumpy” for not getting Bulletstorm PC sales
that would be a sight to behold! lol
seriously needs to let the PR people do the talking coz everything he says ends up in disaster. lol
wow ... WE HAVE A RIGHT FOR A DEMO ... What is it with this entitlement generation we got? Seriously people chill the f* up.
Its simple really. They want sales, we want to try it before we buy it. It would be a good situation for everyone.
A demo is one of those things you expect because it's something that's been standard in the industry for decades now especially on PC.
I'm not going to say we have a right to it, because technically, we don't. But, it seems a shitty deal to have the other two platforms get one and PC gets shafted. I mean, is that really necessary? Is it so cost prohibited to do something that has been standard in the industry for decades? EPIC was involved in the shareware model, in their beginning stage. What happened to that similar spirit? Oh right, they got too big and think that it isn't worth their time. Plus PC is dead, right? Screw that noise.
You don't have a right for sh*t, you want it buy it, you don't then don't. I think what PC gamers will do is just download a cracked version and will have a full game for a demo...lol...stupid comment cliff...don't piss those guys...remember a game called spore...cliffy
So I buy Bulletstorm preowned to make sure arrogants such as Cliff B. don't earn my money. I don't play on PC but a platform is your own choice and this is unfair.
This might make me just rent the damn game because Killzone 3 will be taking up most of my time anyway and this guy is getting on my last nerves. I can use that same $65 that I was going to use on this game and save the money for Socom 4 since I was going to get Socom anyway. That's more money in my pocket and less for that dumb ass.
Why is he so damn cocky, just cool it man your games aren't ground breaking or true master peaces. Look I'm not a pc gamer but he should respect them just like console gamers because we are all consumers of the game industry and without us they are nothing.
Would want to push their limits with the greatest hardware out there, and then show it off. My guess is the PC version is a let down. Typcial no AA and screen tearing. Gears of War pc had these problems. These days it's all about the least common denominator. This gen has been a big hamper on progress.
I don't see anything wrong with what he said. Although, I do think there should be a PC demo.
He proudly announced the upcoming demo, then called PC gamers grumpy for being upset about not getting the demo. How douchebaggy is that?
But they are grumpy, and it's not exactly like he is rubbing it in their faces. Besides, I think it's more 'douchebaggy' to be so overly sensitive about a videogame demo that you would support piracy. What the hell is up with that? People are upset that he used one word to accurately describe the PC gamer's dissatisfaction with the lack of a Bulletstorm demo, so much that it makes it OK to steal the game itself? We don't know why there isn't a demo, or if it is even Cliffy's own choice that there isn't one, so I don't see why he should be the target of everyone's hate. But anyways, if he is in fact being a jerk, what does that make the multitude of gamers who will pirate the game when it releases?
CliffyB is stupid as fuck. He gave a statement about piracy on PC, and said something along the lines of: "Here's the thing about piracy, if someone is tech savvy enough to upgrade their video card, then they're tech savvy enough to know how to use bit torrents to pirate games." So according to CliffyB, people who pirate music, movies, books, tv shows, anime, and etc through bit torrents, are just as tech savvy as someone that can upgrade their video card. =/ But regarding the Demo, yes, PC gamers deserve a demo just as much as console gamers. They have every right to be grumpy. The cost of issuing a demo on PC is far less than it is on Xbox360 & PS3. They have no excuse.
Your so right with that comment that's why I like your shows.
It is funny that I have built my own PC without being a tech savvy. In fact I know nothing about computer and how it works.
I think every one here is proving his point.
Uhh not really i don't really game on pc but i don't agree with this comment because i used to game on pc and a demo on pc is more valuable and more indicative of your experience with your purchase then a demo for the consoles. A pc demo would drive more percentage of sales on pc than a console demo.
I understand what you are saying but what I meant was the way the guys are going on just strengthens his case, sometimes no response is the best response.
Ah a very zen like approach. I agree that sometimes that is the right path to take and honestly a dumb comment like this shouldn't be given the time of day unless it will lead to people can fly and epic releasing a demo for the pc. It's very hard because this is such a petty move for this company. It's just a pc demo and it sucks it won't be out for the pc
Pc gamers don't need a demo, they have other ways to play the game if you know what I mean..
you mean like sleep with him to get a free copy??? ;) /s
Really, although I personally am looking forward to the game, Cliffy's got his audience all wrong on this one. Unless he slaps "From The Makers of Gears of War" in a brazen font-size on the cover of the game, console gamers won't give two shits about this game. Judging by the box-art and general lack of hype surrounding the game, you can expect this game to sell in quite mediocre numbers. On the shelves it'll look like just another generic FPS to those who haven't seen it before. Just look at UT3 and how well that sold on consoles, and that game had an actual pedigree/big name. Now, if he'd gone and developed the game with a little more of a PC focus, imagine how many sales he'd have gotten. Look at BF:BC2 and how many PC gamers bought that game, just because the devs took the time to cater to them just a little. PC gamers are loyal so long as they're given respect. It's obvious as to why he's so evangelical about consoles. Gears and MS have made him a mini-celebrity, and have probably made him more money than all previous Epic games combined. UE3 sales to console developers are in the region of insanity. PC developers are a more competitive bunch who have more options and power at their disposal, the ageing UE3 just isn't as attractive as it once was, especially compared to CryEngine 2/3 and Frostbite. Now who's being a Grumpy Gus, eh?
Well said man. I think the industry is in real danger. I mean they've already begun to disrespect us as consumers as much as they can and milking us like cows because most companies think that gamers are an immature sub-serviant bunch of teens and kids.
And thus is the reason WHY many PC gamers find ALTERNATIVE ways to play before they buy the titles.
they arent grumpy!! bu most of them aret gaming elitist morons
"bu most of them aret gaming elitist morons" Irony...
Hm Cliffy B really does not want PC gamers to buy his products does he.
Well it's simple if the pc market doesn't buy then they have an excuse not to release games for it and save themselves some money. They already think of pc gamers as less important then the rest of the bunch
A smart business person realizes that any additional revenue streams are a good thing and generally worth the effort. Considering they have to develop the damn thing on a PC for a console (specialized computer), it would seem to me that they should be releasing a demo for the PC right alongside the other demos. I'm not sure if Cliffy has the final say in anything with regard to the business side of things. I doubt it highly, in fact. He might have input, but not the final say. Hypothetically, if you sell 4.5 million on one platform, 3.1 million on another and 1.5 million on another, isn't it worth it for that 1.5 million? The truth is, that is revenue coming in and it should be considered. Minimum investment for ROI received. It is a very minimum investment for them to put together a demo.
This is why he's on the list of d-bags developers.
Grumpy...hahahaha never heard that one.
Bulletstorm is gears of war arcade edition!!
I'll show you the grumpy.
Wow...Some of you are so delicate. The guy calls some people "grumpy" and "he's a complete ass". Jesus guys...That's what my grandma calls people when she's really mad. I wish you and your vajinas a speedy recovery.
I personally didn't call him anything. But, I will say this. That was a pretty condescending thing to say...this isn't your grandmother talking, it's a game designer. My grandmother used to say all sorts of things too, but she didn't make games for an audience of millions and decide that it's too much of a bother to make a demo. The guy can say what he wants, but that doesn't mean he's right or that they are making the right decision, for themselves or anyone else.
No need for a demo cause I'm going to screw Epic and play the whole game for free.
If anyone has followed Cliffy B long enough on Twitter or kept up with him over the years.. you would know he has a sarcastic sense of humor. I don't think he meant any disrespect saying PC gamers were "grumpy." It was just his way of trying to be funny, which to him, means being a dick.
I wasn't even aware there was a bullet storm demo...
How much I spent last year on the Steam deals during Thanksgiving and Christmas, I can wait for this game to be a deal on Thanksgiving or Christmas this year.
Clifford is just talking out of his arse again. All the Pc gamers that I know have ZERO interest in Bulletstorm. This same subject was brought up during a Sunday Night Lan and ALL of my friends were like "Why bother with Bulletstorm when Killzone 3 is coming out" WHOA! that sums it up.
I've actually met Cliff in Cary here at a Starbucks. Let's just say he's not a likable person to be around.
good! I dislike PC gamers and they don't deserve a demo! because 70% would pirate the goddamn game! -Ninja Gaiden 3-is sick!:)
Proves that he's a dick who's only in it for the money
this game will be $25 3 months after release on pc, it'll still be $60 on console, never intended on paying more than $25 for it anyway, btw cliffy, everyone who wants a "demo" on pc will have one you [email protected]' slag. for the record I do not pirate games, music, movies... anything. But many will be more apt to after this pud's mouth vomit spews out this rubbish. People who do pirate are as bad a cliffy The game does look fun though, maybe I'll rent it for ps3 and then if it is really good buy it on pc( for $25), I almost never pay full retail for games unless it's something like the witcher 2 or starcraft 2
who is cliffy b? is he not some has-been that made gears of war like 5 years ago on some last gen console and now pushing some game made by some has-beens who made painkiller, a terrible generic last-gen shooter....hmm wonder what they are working on?? i'd venture to guess ----- a terrible generic last-gen shooter
guess ventured,guess confirmed. no official confirmation but is it really needed?
PC gaming alliance eh cliff? oh riiiight