Lens of Truth - Head2Head: Splinter Cell: Conviction vs. Metal Gear Solid 4 Performance Analysis

Lens of Truth writes "“So, you’re saying I’m the dominant one” This week we’d like to dedicate this Head2Head to our fans who’ve requested this comparison for some time now. We’ve listened to your requests and we delivered. Today, we infiltrate are way through Splinter Cell: Conviction and Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots to see which exclusive is considered the epitome of stealth action. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em, because your in for one wild ride."

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donkeydoo2834d ago ShowReplies(13)
Emmettcelticfan2834d ago

hasn't this one already been done by many other sites, god let it go. we all know mgs is the better game and always will be

ExplosionSauce2834d ago

They're also very different games.
Conviction barely being a stealth game in comparison to previous games.

NeoTribe2834d ago

That metal gear in particular didnt force you to be stealthy either.

ExplosionSauce2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

You had to be a lot more stealthy in MGS4.
In fact, in higher difficulties, you had to be stealthy, because in many situations a straight forward approach would get you killed.

I'm sure you played it, right?

Kevin ButIer2834d ago

OMG... "ps3 is haxed & doomed" combined with MGS4 vs Splinter Cell flamebait articles.

Its 2011 :/

shadow27972834d ago

They discussed environments but didn't even mention character models? Figures they wouldn't mention MGS4's best graphical feature.

Both are great games for different reasons and both look great but if you're going to compare the two, at least be thorough.

ExplosionSauce2834d ago

Definitely. MGS4 had awesome character models.

morganfell2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

MGS4 ranks as the best title I have ever player. Ever. And it doesn't have an equal.

MGS4 was about options. You could go in hard and experience one type of play or you could go in quiet and have a totally different game. Or mix it up for something in between. The choice is up to the player. I am still discovering things in this game and I have the Collector's Guide and even it does not come close to what Kojima poured into this experience.

The animations and character models stand up this day as some of the best around. The texture artists in particular deserve a nod.

Do I have to mention the option to hide bodies...almost anywhere? Kojima didn't rush MGS4 and it shows. In the Post Mortem of Game Developer the Max Beland admits the reason you could not hide bodies in Splinter Cell Conviction was they ran out of time. The game was rushed. Yes it had a long development time but they scrapped the majority of the title and started over only to push it out the door.

I liked the game but Splinter Cell deserved a better treatment than it received and could have been so much more. Hopefully the next iteration they will return to the care with which they used to craft the first three titles in the series.

Meanwhile Kojima Productions is hiring for their next Metal Gear title.

Bigpappy2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

@gamerzBEreal17: are you saying SC is not a good game because it did not sell as well as MG. I though is was concensus that sales =/= quality.

I am a big fan of Sc by the way. Never got into MG because I did not like the control settings in the pervious versions. But I still will not comment negatively on the game.

I agree with 'morganfell' on what he had to say about SC first 3 being the best, and that not being able to move bodies making the game unfinished.

ShinMaster2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

Yes, sales don't equal quality.
And SC:C isn't bad because of low sales.

MGS4 is just slightly on a different level in comparison.

lociefer2833d ago

wtf, splinter cell dosent even hold a candle to mgs4 in terms of graphics,gameplay,story, and animation !

MeanOldman2833d ago

lens of untruth just go away. nobody wants your damn deception dudes.

you guys are a joke. you get busted slantin the damn truth an now this is your next article. hardy effin har har you losers.

pixelsword2833d ago

wasn't this site proven bogus already?

TheLastGuardian2833d ago

MGS4 is way better and Splinter Cell always comes to the Playstation eventually.

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WildArmed2834d ago

Yeah I think it's been done to death.
First of all, one came in '08, and other in '10..

SC is a fastpaced-stealth action TPS,
while MGS was the opposite in the stealth genre.
(unless you played on ez, then you can just run n gun ur way through!)

I really liked both games, but never in my wildest dreams would I compare 'em.
They are both unique experience, both I had a blast with! :)

hakeem09962834d ago

For me SPLINTER CELL will always be better than MGS.
MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darkdoom30002834d ago

and I disagree with your opinion
(though I havent played the new SC yet, MGS series is the pinnicle of gaming. Even trancending it, while SC games are *good*)

Shepherd 2142833d ago

The pinnacle of gaming? Damn, broaden your horizons a bit.

Man In Black2834d ago

Just went back to playing MGS4 after finishing Peace Walker, graphics have aged extremely well, just like MGS2 & 3.

As for Splinter Cell, I loved Chaos Theory (AMAZING stealth elements), but Double Agent was a step back, and Conviction placed too much emphasis on action and pointless gimmicks.

Myst2834d ago

Damn since you brought up Peace Walker it reminded me that I need to go back and finish that game...

Shepherd 2142833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

Splinter Cell Conviction pioneered a new, fast paced stealth genre. It wasnt about pointless gimmicks. You still stuck to the shadows, climbed on ceiling and wall pipes, took human shields, shimmied along ledges, etc. You just do it in a faster, more action oriented manner than the typical slow paced stealth game.

i beat the game twice and if you get good with some of the tools that the game gives you, youre a force to be reckoned with. Not to mention the story was quite solid.

There is nothing wrong with doing something new and Conviction was a nice breath of fresh air.

Man In Black2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

They should've made a new IP considering the huge change in "stealth". Features like "last known position" were just gimmicky (I'm pretty sure it was in the older games, except it wasn't a marketing blurb, enemies just knew where they'd last seen you and the game didn't bring up a silhouette to point it out to you). It felt more like that old Bourne game than a Splinter Cell game. I'm not against change, but not when it completely goes against the design philosophy of the previous games. In Conviction, you pretty much have to take out all enemies in the area, whereas in the previous games, there was the option to never even let them know you're there.

crzyjackbauer2834d ago

as a huge mgs fan
i did not like mgs4, it was boring
i loved mgs3 and im waiting for an HD remake
and splinter cell conviction is a very good game
but its way away from the stealth game it use to be

Pollak2834d ago

I agree. MGS4 was an amazing game for the first two acts but then it went completely overboard with the cutscenes. It felt as though I was doing more watching than playing. After Snake Eater is was a bit of a let down.

crzyjackbauer2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

and it was suppose to be on PS3, but sony was late with the tech and had to start on PS2 check out the limited edition bluray that comes with MGS4
kojima wanted MGS3 on PS3

chidori6662834d ago

Splinter Cell is rip-off MGS4..

in the other hand Metal Gear 4 has been around almost as long as I have been alive. This game is the most inspiring most epic game that I have ever played in this gen.

crzyjackbauer2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

seriously dont talk if you havent played splinter cell conviction, its nothing like MGS4, way too diffrent games
conviction doesent have 2 hour cutscenes between gameplay

conviction takes more from 24 and gears of war than MGS

HolyOrangeCows2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

Another comparison of a 2-year-old PS3 game vs a new Xbox 360 game from LOT.

"the other hand Metal Gear 4 has been around almost as long as I have been alive"
I'm impressed by how well you speak for a 2-year
I'm sure you meant MGS...

WhitePolish2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

Wtf you guys talking about

pain777pas2833d ago

When is this site going to just go away permanently? If they come back under another name so be it. They will get no more hits from me that is for certain. I don't like liars. MGS4 is a 2008 release. The graphics in that game are really from 2006 or something when they were designing the game even earlier. This comparison is pointless. MGS4 is still regardless of the graphics a misunderstood game with a lot of stuff in the game that people may not even realise. Kojima is deep. The MGS series is deep and Kojima takes digs at many things and makes his games relevant like no other games in the world. MGS is known for its pushing the graphical boundaries on any given platform but in honesty he always has a few nuggets for those in the know or into conspiracies etc...

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Shanks2834d ago

Metal Gear Solid 4 - 1024×768 2xAA - 2008 game
Splinter Cell Conviction - 1024X576 2xAA - 2010 game

just sayin.

Thrillhouse2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

SC looks great on PC, though (such as with 8xAA and 16:1 AF, but you can still go higher).

justinb12834d ago

SC on PC still looks worse than MGS4...

Mr Exclusive2834d ago

On my PC Conviction is

60+ FPS
16 AF
Everything else maxed
No installing after each chapter

UbiDRM has being relaxed and doesn't require a always online internet connection anymore.

ps3rider2834d ago

once you finish playing Splinter cell go play warcraft its suitable for you

PirateThom2834d ago

Most of Conviction is played in Black and white, that's instantly a point off.

Eyeco2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

most of the game takes place in small dark areas and is in black and white.

WildArmed2834d ago

I liked how they did that.
When you are hidden/in-the-shadows, it's very clear to you that you are hidden.
Kinda like what they did w/ 'The Saboteur'
Though, I do wish they would give an option to disable it.
The effect is cool, but it'd be nice to have an option to toggle it on and off

Joe Bomb2834d ago

MGS4 may be "technically" better, but there are too many CGI cut-scenes, you barely play the game!

Splinter Cell Conviction was way better gameplay wise. IMO of course. Everyone should play it.

djreplay2834d ago

You can skip them you know.

guigsy2834d ago

Kinda pointless playing MGS4 if you're gunna skip all the cutscenes though. It would be like watching a film that skips every 10 minutes or so.

Finalfantasykid2834d ago

I might agree with you if the story was boring, but with a story so deep as MGS you can't help but enjoy watching them. Of course you might not like the game's story, but that's not really the game's fault.

CobraKai2834d ago

True MGS fans know that cutscenes are part of the experience, not a detriment to the game.

DigitalRaptor2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

I'm sorry but what is this myth that MGS4 is mostly cutscenes?

It's about 50:50

Roughly 9 hours gameplay/ 9 hours cutscenes.

just_the_tip2834d ago

What game are you talking about, MGS4 was all cut scenes. I mean you would literally walk 2 feet then, CUT SCENE.. Hostly MGS4 was the worst in the series bar none. Snake Eater was 100 times better IMO. I'm pretty sure I read an article were someone actually beat the entire game in 3 hrs.

darkdoom30002834d ago

3 hours.... yeah you can do that with any MGS game. It's called a speed run, the requirement of the Big Boss medal is to finish the game in under 5 hours, no kills, no alerts and other strict requirements.

it's in all MGS games. :|

darkdoom30002834d ago

cutscenes are mostly (all except 2 I think) in engine. NOT CGI. as you can interact with the cutscenes.

ps3rider2834d ago

hey idiot, MGS since it has made they didn't change anything about the story line and its a movie more than a game play. but splinter cell is dam has nothing to do with story as each is independent. secondly give some respect to game got award and critical reviews not such a garbage like splinter cell

cody2oo2834d ago

CGI? hope you dont mean like Actual CGI for Pre-rendered stuff.....maybe you mean ingame?

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