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HawkEye: Why NFS: Shift 2 could be the best racing game ever

ConnectedConsoles: "If you haven’t seen the latest trailer for the clumsily-titled Need For Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed, I won’t blame you. The trailer, which ‘did a ninja’ and sprung the first ever gameplay on viewers, as well as a pleasing release date, had surprisingly little fanfare surrounding it. And I honestly, for the life of me, can’t figure out why."

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MariaHelFutura5276d ago

I`m sorry, but the cars in NFS:S felt like Hovercraft and felt nothing like the cars they were trying to replicate. It`s makes me wonder what people think makes a great racing game.

jib5276d ago

i'd have to disagree. physics weren't the best sure but the game is FUN. i love the exaggerated sounds, sense of speed, & the graphics is IMO, pretty good as well

still do prefer GT/Forza to it but i'm getting shift 2 regardless

DelbertGrady5276d ago

The sense of speed was better than in most other racing games. Dirt 2 has great sense of speed as well.

kharma455276d ago

Yeah DiRT 2 was fantastic. I got it in the Steam sale back at Halloween, it's a godly racer.

ComboBreaker5276d ago

Like your typical every other arcade racing game out there.

Downtown boogey5276d ago

One game (GT5) is enough for my sim fix... And MotorStorm provides the fun and intense racing that I devour even more.

Dee_915276d ago (Edited 5276d ago )

i liked grid way better than shift
I love dirt 2 thats the only game i got plat trophies on

ShinMaster5275d ago (Edited 5275d ago )

They're different types of racing games.

Shift physics have nothing on GT5.
Shift doesn't focus on realism like GT5.

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Perjoss5276d ago

MariaHelFutura,

the cars they were trying to replicate were race cars, are you a race driver?

MariaHelFutura5276d ago

No, But I`ve driven cars that you would find in racing games. Aston Martin, Ferrari etc.

LiL T5276d ago

@Perjoss,
I cant speak for MariaHelFutura but I can say that I have personally built and driven race cars and nothing in NFS handles like a real car. Theres only one game on consoles that even comes close (very very close) and thats GT. If you want realistic on PC try R factor (havent tried iRacing) which use MoTec data acquisition for some cars.
So Perjoss, Have you ever driven a race car?

Dee_915276d ago

im gonna try out r factor

LiL T5276d ago

@Dmarc
Its a great game, just wish I had a better pc. I got the game with the G27 but had played it couple years back on a friends pc that he built just for that game. Hope you got a wheel because K/M or controller just wont cut it in that game.

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saladthieves5276d ago

One reason: CRITERION GAMES, the dudes responsible for the awesome Burnout series.

Quagmire5275d ago

Criterion isnt making this game. However, Shift 2 is still gonna be a must buy.

Rageanitus5276d ago

nfs shift is pretty good game... but I do agree that each car from one another did not FEEL alot different. It was hard to feel the diffrence between rear wheel drive and front wheel drive.

It is an arcade racer IMO but tried to add some simulation elements ( ease of skidding out if you dont brake)... But I give it that it had much more of a sense of speed vs GT5

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GodofSackboy5276d ago

Dunno why Shift 1 got so much hate, it was my favourite racing game ever until GT5, thought it was brilliant. Shift 2 would be better with more grippy handling though.

jib5276d ago

hate the super-oversteering in 1. i don't know if it was a design choice but i hope they fix/change it for 2

Dee_915276d ago

grid was my fav racer
i like dirt 2 more than grid but it was only rally so

mjolliffe5276d ago

I seriously think it will be. I mean, Gran Turismo 5 was pretty darn good - despite it not being my cup of tea - but it didn't sell as much as I thought it would have.

This, I think, is the real deal - and it's only been in development for two years?

mrv3215276d ago

Didn't sell aswell as it could have? 5.5 million+...

mjolliffe5276d ago

Did I say "could" have? No. I said "as much as I thought it would have."

There was an absolute huge amount of hype surrounding the game, so I thought it would have had a few more million sales thrown onto that.

I can't deny that it's sold very well, but personally I was expecting a little more. You can't have a go at me for that.

jammydude5276d ago

@mjolliffe

firstly, do you know nick jolliffe?

secondly, it sold 5.5 million in one month. It's now been 2 and a half, it's undoubtedly nearer to 7 million now. In case you didn't know that's a massive amount of sales. Halo reach didn't sell 5.5million in that short a period of time

Information Minister5276d ago

I'm not sure I get your point. Are you trying to say that because GT5 didn't sell as much as you thought it would have, that means it's not as good as it could have been? Or are you saying that the quality of a game is measured by the number of copies sold, and that's what determines the best racing game? Because I seriously doubt Shift 2 will be able to push the same numbers as GT5.

Also, besides Call of Duty, how many games sold 5 million in one month this gen? You make it sound like it happens all the time, when in fact it's a very rare occurrence.

Ve3tro5276d ago

I never got the chance to pickup the original Shift but I may get this one.

Quagmire5275d ago

The original shift was great, however I got bored of it. Myabe im not into sims, which is why I dont care for GT5. However, this looks to be a GREAT mix of sim and arcade, exxagerating the intensity of racing.

I guess you could say that Shift 2 is the Bastard child of Gran Turismo and Burnout.

The_KELRaTH5276d ago (Edited 5276d ago )

(PS3 version) I enjoyed the singleplayer and the car sound effects are the best of any racing game but the private online side was a disaster as players would be guaranteed to be disconnected at some point during the evenings race session and then be unable to just re-enter the lobby afterwards (without an invite from host which is kinda tough when racing).
Finally when the host gets disconnected it's game over rather than passing to someone else.

The best lobby format I've used for racing is in GT5 where friends and friends of friends can join directly - and now even follow friends into a public host games too.

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow1068d ago (Edited 1068d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel19891068d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow1067d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel19891067d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled1067d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher1068d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim1067d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow1067d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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Looking Back to 2011 and the Forza Baiting Need for Speed Shift 2: Unleashed

Paul writes: "So, all in all, Shift 2: Unleashed from way back in 2011 on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC was a good game, but not quite as good as the marketing hype may have had you believe. Autolog and racing with friends was fun, the upgrading of the cars and the gradual unlocking of the new series made for an addictive play, and the game looked the part as well. But it failed to reach the heights many predicted."

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv722134d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro2134d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig2134d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright2134d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19922134d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright2134d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk2134d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright2134d ago (Edited 2134d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare22134d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san2133d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19822135d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech2135d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss2134d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX2134d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright2134d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali2134d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm2134d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde2134d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare22134d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright2134d ago (Edited 2134d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk2134d ago (Edited 2134d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX2134d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk2134d ago (Edited 2134d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright2134d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x2134d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke2134d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech2134d ago (Edited 2134d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig2134d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca2134d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis2134d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz2134d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19812134d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z2135d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig2134d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z2134d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King2134d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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