A comparative look at how the PSP2 and PlayStation Phone will wind up competing with each other, on top of the Nintendo 3DS, iPhone and Android.
Announcing the PSP2 before the PS Phone is crazy considering that it is far more powerful
"Sony Competing With Itself" When don't they...
ya....this article is fail.....
@Darkfocus Not necessarily.... the iPhone and iPod touch can run the same basic apps... While as the PSP2 is going to be an entire generation ahead of the PSP Phone. The PSP2 will offer PSP 2 games, while the PSP Phone offers a phone and PSP 1 games. People will have to decide between the two to buy, and that'll divide the market between both platforms. Sony should be pushing the PSP2 in my eyes to better there stance on the handheld market against Nintendo.
Exactly what NoobSession said. PSP2 is completely different from PSP phone. It's like PS2 games vs PS3 games.
Fail indeed, because I want the PSP2 and the PS Phone.
That's exactly what I was about to comment. Apple's iPhone/iTouch combination is a great idea. It allows people to use the same apps and have the same functionality with the only difference being that one has cell phone functionality. I hope Sony goes the same route and puts the same hardware in the PS Phone and the PSP2 so that people can play the same games and use the same apps.
so Sony have no choice but to compete with itself.
I think the Sony Ericsson PlayStation Phone is going to bomb. While the PSP2 is going to be 'the bomb'.
keep in mind that both could be aiming for different demographics. people who have a psp and want the next gen version will likely get the psp2. People who have a phone and want to play games like the psp did could go for the psp phone. I dont think the same people will be buying both. It is also pretty obvious that each will support remote play. When you look at remote play settings it says psp, phone and pc. Safe to say those would be the ericsson and vaio branded units. As compared to other phone/gaming portables...it certainly beats the talking taco.
I just want to slap the person in the face who thought this was a good idea. The sony guy, not the author.
Nice read! As much as this may be an issue for Sony down the line, I gotta admit...I'll probably end up buying both of those damn things hahaha...Ugh my wallet!!!
if the psp2 has some phone functions i'll just get that, if not i'll get both
Ah, hadn't thought of that...If that were the case then yea I'd stick with the PSP2.
Both look great, but I can't imagine owning both...
Seriously you are dumb to think that. They are two seperate platforms goin affter differnet markets, you can't see that you are seriously dumb.
What two separate markets? How many non-gamers will buy a PS Phone over an iPhone? Very few.
Me and many others that don't like iOS and want something else maybe android and if it's powerful and it has the bonus of being the PS phone, why not?
Yea and considering there are so much to choose from in the smartphone space, I can't see psp phone doing well
Just like iPods and iPhones....
I can picture quite a few actually, the Xperia Play has got something the Iphone doesn't. Proper controls.
non gamer? dude im a gamer an im buying the Ps Phone to replace my iphone. I dont want a psp 2. some of us are not interested in a dedicated handheld gaming unit. I want my device to be a phone an a gaming unit. The PSP 2 an 3DS are not capable of that so i dont want em.
Smartphones have been eating into the handheld market for some time, they are both bought and used by very similar demographics, and have increasingly similar features. Many are even predicting that this generation will be the last for dedicated gaming handhelds, as consumers are demanding all-in-one devices.
unless nintendo make a DS phone the handheld will never die as just a handheld as how many millions would keep buying it for games like mario etc because they are fans and whether or not a phone can play good games they will still want to play the ones they love over generic iphone games
yea i wouldn't say these are two separate markets... I think the line between the two markets has become blurred..especially with the PS Phone having a D Pad and PS buttons.
tbh this article is correct
the smart phone market and the dedicated gaming handheld markets are completely seperate. The dedicated gaming market is for real gaming and the smartphone market is really a jack of all trades, master of none deal. the psp2 is competing with the 3ds nothing else. And has no phone features or really anything to do with any phone. The newest rumors for the psp2 suggest a physical medium which makes it very much a dedicated handheld Dedicated handhelds have never sold this much hardware or software in any gen. Thats were the real battleline is drawn the psphone might fail because the smartphone market has too many players right now. Hell even the windows phone struggled to 1 million in 2 months...... nintendo is estimating 4 million 3ds sales in 1 month for the record
I agree with you mostly. I believe that they are two different markets. I dont know if the phone is going to fail though. It has some really good specs, if the leaks are to be believed. Android has passed iOS, so having a phone with actual controls and Android 2.3 makes it a pretty sweet gadget. Oh, and the windows phone failed cause its OS was sh!t.
Honestly who will buy a PS Phone? On the other hand everyone will buy a PSP2.
you brought some strong opinions and claims to the table i see .......
Im buying the PS Phone and not the PSP 2. See how you failed there? Why the hell wud i wanna carry a handheld gaming console aswell as a phone? my pockets will be too full. I'd rather one that can have both. Hence the Ps Phone will be my next phone.
I don't really see it as a problem. A serious gamer will want a PSP2. But they are still going to have a phone, and if they like games, why not get a PS phone? I really don't think it is a clear cut case of people wanting one or the other when there are some dramatic differences. I don't think someone will go for a non-PS phone just because they have a PSP2, or choose not to get a PSP2 because they have a PS phone.
Its not going against each other.Its just sony expanding its product and going to make more money from 2 products.
yeah if the psp phone is succesful then they are in the handheld gaming market, the phone market, and the iphone market (cant think of the name of this market) and also could enter the tablet market. in 2000 microsoft entered a crowded gaming console market so why shouldn't sony go for these markets?
Sony already said the PSP phone is for casual gamers and the PSP2 is more for the hardcore. Either way Sony's gonna make a ton of money.
when did they say this? sony wont even admit that either device exists yet, nevermind who they are aimed at
from Bert an Kaz..they did not go into every length about what each will do but you could guess by their response to the questions from the Media an interview's by tech related Review sites you get a pretty good IDEA once again a guess where they are headed. for instance both devices could connect to PSN but one is an android device the other uses the XMB as the main OS. but say the PSP2 allowed you 2 boot into android..while the Phone already allows Android, but boot's into playstation pocket!software it's made to download games made for both the PSP2 an the PSP phone..a 1+ Ghz base processor to develop your game for would work for both systems as a platform for Sony 1st party developer's if the both use the same "ARM CORE CPU's" it would make it very easy to offer one game that works on both platforms. Sony's just covering both markets an expanding the PSP to more of a portable platform more than anything like what you have with smartphones in general their a platform instead of only tailor made for one device.
i was just taking issues with gilga comment about the phone being casual, like i said, sony didnt say this themselves and just by using logic and what they are doing right now, sony are staying true to the core gamer im sure there will be casual games but not just casuals afterall, you dont need right and left triggers as well as dual analogs for casual games, in fact, with the most popular ones i have seen, all u need is one finger, angry birds, paper toss etc
I don't see how it's going against each other. Does the ipod and iphone go against each other?
the worst part is the iphone and ipod touch are practically the same device minus phone fuctions, however the PSPhone and PSP2 will be fairly different, dirrent OS, different games (probably), different design, etc
Don't quite agree with this article in some places. I see it as offering more a diverse range of products. You could either go opt for the powerful (if rumours are correct) handheld console for those amongst us who want a more intense gaming experience or you could opt for the phone who want a different kind of functionality but still want to retain some of the gaming aspects of PlayStation. Just to put this out there, maybe Sony don't want to put all their eggs in one basket? They have two potentially good selling hardware devices here and in my eyes that is much better than just having one. Even if gamers opt for one or the other, Sony still benefits at the end of the day. Although, it does raise some good points like marketing towards the same audience. That could be potentially confusing, but if the price points are significantly different, it might include more people into their target audience. For instance, those who would want a gaming handheld, but just don't have the money. Anyway, we'll see. Details are all hazy at the moment for both devices.
Just like the iPhone and the iPod are competing with one another, or the iPad and iMacs, etc.
I think it is great there are 2 options. There are many that want a dedicated hand held gaming device and keep the phone to the more simplistic stuff.. Kudos Sony!!
I just like gadget. I pod touch 4g and an android phone. Even though the pep a was dissapointment I will get the psp2 also
PSP2 on the other hand....................... UNCHARTED SPINOFF WITH EDDY RAAAAAJJJJAA! -End of Line
I think the two can co-exist, to a point. Either way I'll probably end up with one of each.
The PSP2 will make the "PSP phone' look like an iphone gaming, which is the direct competition
Depending on their prices might end up getting both I mean I have 2 ps3s a 600 dollar unit in the 60gb I bought at launch, and the new slim model i got recently for my downstairs room. I mean look I obviously preffer the psp2 I am always in favor of the more powerful device, however there is one thing to the psphone and thats the fact its a phone first and a psp second so its of reasonable size and style. The difference? I tend to carry my phone everywhere with me, not so much my psp. Regardless of how cool the psp2 might end up being I,just dont see myself carrying it everywhere like I would my phone. Because its something I see as a pleasure that should only be had in certain moments and times. Like a long bus or train ride or out somewhere different with a friend. The phone however is different in the sense its a phone naturally and can be use in case of an emergency or simply for other apps provided by android like a gps? Or translator, or barcode scanner ect many things one can do with such device. Where as the psp2 is I am sure primarly a gaming device intended for entertainment and amusement, I am not the type to be carrying my psp or ds around everywhere. But on another note what would have been a more logical approach would have been to just do what apples does and make essantially the same product, only one is a phone like the iphone and the other a stand alone product like the itouch. Than people could decide for themselves without having to compromise much.
PSP2 android powered device well beat any other handheld device easily.
Uh... kinda like the DSi XL, DSi, and 3DS will "compete"? Like the iPhone, and iTouch, and iPad compete? Can you really call it competition if the same company makes it?
The PSPgo should of been the PSPhone . Its too late to release a PSPhone with PSP1 capabilities when the PSP2( and 3DS) are releasing this year.. I've been in the PSP game since 2006 so why would I want a PSPhone with PSP1 capabilities when I currently have a PSP1. So basically a PSPhone to me would be just a smartphone cause I never had one. but that kinda defeats the purpose of PSP + phone combo in a way. I think the risky move to do is have 2 models of the PSP2 which ione is also happens to be a smartphone with android and 3G/4G while the other model will be just a psp2. my only beef with that idea is how can PSP2 owners upgrade to PSP2 Phone?
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