Gamersmint: According to a post at NeoGaf, hackers have developed a homebrew app for the console known as “Trophy unlocker” which allows you to get 100% completion in any game, i.e platinum it and sync the date to Sony’s servers
exactly!!, there's nothing more awesome than the feeling you get when you unlock your final trophy for a game and get the platinum by your own merits, getting all the trophies with a f*ing hack it's just plain stupid.
i knew this was going to happen. Now my level 12 is basically useless.Can't believe this. Sony can't protect themselves from hackers to save their lives. what a let down
This is the most pointless of the most pointless, wha.....it proves nothing to nobody by doing this. Note to hackers: get out of your mums basement and enjoy life a little. GEEZ.
Sony have done pretty well considering PS3 has been on market for roughly......5 years? and it's taken all these hackers all this time to crack. That's pretty good, if you ask me.
ONTOPIC: This is pretty sad, though sony will be able to view the dates you got all your trophies and just go on banning sprees, surely. As much as I'd love to jailbreak my ps3, just for the stupid little emulators and stuff - I wont, mostly for the fear of being banned.
All I see is stuff for losers and pirates. Where's the homebrew to enable support for SRT subtitles? Where's my MKV? Where's the homebrew apps that actually benefit normal gamers?
i enjoy trophies but if i come across someone with 100% on everything , then i just check the dates to see if he is legit or not ..this should be easy to check for anyone with a brain ...
Besides there are similar tools for the 360 and teh achievement system is still used ..
Good, get rid of the damn things. Trophy and Achievement obsession mean more to kids than actually keeping and playing games these days. This obsession kills the longevity of so many online titles. Kids blast through games racing to get their trophies, turn around and run to gamestop ripping themselves off to trade it in and buy the next title. No one cares about a silly number next to your name, well maybe other obsessed.
Are achivements worthless? You have been able to do this on the 360 for years. Remember the 100000 point dude who had his gamertag marked as cheating? No why would microsoft do that if this wasnt possible?
And really, these unlocks are hat you make of them, say i play a game really much and get a plat, hen that plat will mean something to me. If i just hack it it becomes useless. The only generally useful thing about this is that you can see which games your online friends have.
Whats the big deal if it won't affect YOUR trophies? Let people do what they wanna with THEIR trophies, it does not affect you! It's not like trophies matter or are redeemable for anything other than bragging rights, right?
Sony should just add a bonus trophy and call it 'Thinking outside the box.' or something...
Only way to obtain it is to hack. Would sure making tracking these monkeys easier.
Although I don't know who'd want to use this. Trophies are put there to add longevity to a game... unlocking them all is like pissing in your own soup.
The thing i love about all these hacks that people are developing is that they leave great big bread crumb trails to the hackers. Perma-bans all round for trophy cheats.
Soo who said again that homebrew is a good thing ? All I read so far is that they made applications to run pirated games, that it will lead to über hacks (which will ruin online gaming for everyone) and now this.
Wake me up when useful and original apps appear that aren't related to piracy/cheating.
I am not sure what idiot will do it because like you said it is going to be quite obvious someone has used this hack and so will be banned unless they spend countless hours unlocking a trophy lets say after every 15 minutes to avoid suspicion but then they have no life
No it doesn't, I earn trophies as an acheivment of what I have done - the only people this will ruin things for are people who don't actually want to earn the trophies, they just wants the stats.
This is a prime example of cheating the system is cheating yourself. I have put hundreds of hours into gaining (relatively poor in comparison to others) trophies, and I worked hard for what I have achieved. Anyone who is sad enough to use a cheat to 100% loads of games to try and make it to the top of leader boards really has no life. No life at all!
disturbing is that, there are actually people like that in the internet, who'll do that and be happy about it. I just hope Sony can detect it and ban their asses. Than we can have the last laugh about it
Personally i do not care about trophies but it would be really lame if this "Trophy Unlocker" gets available. Let us hope Sony knows a way to deal with this possible upcoming situation.
Amen, before trophies/achievements replaying the game itself was all you needed. Now its almost mandatory to have some type of "score" that says "you replayed the game, thanks" followed by a number or a symbol.
If a game is good a trophy/achievement isn't needed to "prove" someone replayed the game.
All I've seen trophies/achievements do lately is make bad games playable for bragging rights. Some titles actually use the system effectively, others...
Actually, one thing I like about trophies or achievements is that they can add an extra dimension to games, even the good ones. I may find a weapon that I get used to and spam its use through an entire game. But when I see trophies for use of other weapons, I'm motivated to try something new and experience the game from another perspective.
Don't trophies have a date when unlocked info when you view them. So I think, unless the hackers are willing to change the date for every game they hack, they would be easy to find out.
If rumours are true that Sony will be able to detect hackers if they use PSN, much like Microsoft with Xbox Live, if they aren't able to go online how are they going to be able to sync them to actual Sony servers?
Whilst it probably is true in the end that hacking trophies is possible, it already seems flawed.
They would have to go online but the scan of your system wouldn't necessarily detect the hack. The way they will be banned is by simple logic. Demons souls played for less than 200 hours yet it's platinumed? Yeh that's a hacker.
They could even link trophies to in game stats, an example is getting level hearts in LBP. If you don't have any levels or the Sony servers show you not having the required level hearts then of course it's a sure sign you never earned the trophy. Catching one hacker like that would lead to catching maybe 50 more like him.
I remember playing through Alundra with a walkthrough and getting to a certain part of the story only to read that if I'd been using the walkthrough then the game had a way of realising this and depriving you of the best sword. Was it determined by how quickly i navigated certain maps or by how many attempts I made to solver certain puzzles?
Any hack will leave a fingerprint of the person who created it, some games will be impossible to safely hack (LBP) I'm certain of it.
In any case, what's to stop Sony adding massive security scans to all trophy syncs?
If I were Sony I'd create hacks and release them into the community so that potential hackers could be easily identified and banned.
If I were a hacker I'd create hacks that stole account information, who's gonna ring the police in that scenario?
Seriously i don't think all this business is as cut and dry as people are making out. People running hacks are leaving themselves open to a system bricking or legal action which wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
Imagine a kid building a sand castle and you pour a bucket of water on it when its almost done An old lady feeding birds and you throw stones at them to drive them off Someone cleans the floor and you drop an icecream to intentionally make a mess.
Guess what? None of them are illegal. You wont get jailed for it. But everyone would be glad to see you get a thrashing for being a p***k.
Same with these obnoxious, self-righteous hackers. Thanks to them, we will have piracy (affecting the profits of game companies and increasing prices for us), hacked online games and cheating, things like trophies being messed, possible security threats, etc. These idiots are spoiling the fun for the rest of us who just want to play games. I don’t care whether it illegal or not, what their motives were, I just want these jerks to get punished for what they did.
Yep the only good thing are the Japanese game subtitles. Why doesnt namco just subtitle the game like sega did for Yakuza 3, and release the game over psn that way the costs arent high and the fans are happy.
"There is a achievement unlocker and its not the death of achievements."
Really? If people can cheat their sorry asses to achieve something, the achievement itself becomes meaningless. Unless Sony can counter this, there's no point haveing achievements at all since it would be a huge disservice to anyone who actually toils there way to unlock the trophies only find some sorry loser at the top the leaderboards, who's hacked his way to the top.
I mean why would you want to hack something so pointless?
Thats the discussion about achievements. They're soooooo fun, but then why would you want to hack to achieve them all? Thats just no fun and makes you look idiotic. I mean, they're pointless, so why can't you just wait for the achievement to pop up itself?
While trophies are currently a small bonus this could halt Sony's plans to make trophies rewarding (there was something a while back where they said they'll give you "worthwhile" rewards for unlocking trophies).
I can see the benefits of general piracy and homebrew but a trophy unlocker application brings no benefits other than the smug feeling of artificially plat'ing a game with difficult trophy.
When you play games without connecting to PSN, your trophies get cached locally and synced to PSN the next time you connect. The time/date they were achieved is also transmitted to PSN, so your credit will match the time of the actual achievement. The article indicated that the trophies would get "random" timestamps, so a bunch of trophies getting synced at once using the hack will not be too much different than the current sync behavior.
HOWEVER, if the hack truly randomizes the timestamps and completes all of them for each game, Sony could deduce the use of the hack by knowing a bit about the individual games. Going from zero to platinum in one day is one way that applies to just about any game (though the smart hacker would keep his machine offline for a week before attempting that). Gaining the "Kill 1000..." trophy before the "Kill 100..." or "Complete level 1" trophies are also possible suspects.
This is no different than people who boost in FPS games, they sit in a room together and stab and shot each other in the face, so they can get higher stats/achievements etc. There will be people who use this, but at least they wont be ruining an actual game with their idiocracy.
this sucks
Defeats the entire purpose of trophies. Lets hope its not true.
This is a prime example of cheating the system is cheating yourself. I have put hundreds of hours into gaining (relatively poor in comparison to others) trophies, and I worked hard for what I have achieved. Anyone who is sad enough to use a cheat to 100% loads of games to try and make it to the top of leader boards really has no life. No life at all!
This is terrible but I'd like to use it for Socom lol jk.
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this is pathetic. I hope Sony can ban their asses.