PSP2 as powerful as PS3, set for Q4 launch

MCVUK: HD device on shelves by Xmas; Media storage solution keeps retail in the mix; Third parties to help drive launch buzz.

[SnakeMustDie]

It also overheats faster than the PSP. If this is true, i cannot imagine how hot the PSP2 will be when running a game. Not to mention the battery life.

[Ryudo]

Run Infinity blade on your Iphone 4 if you have one, the game has better graphics then any Wii game and I can run the game for 6 hours on 1 charge.

[Tachyon_Nova]

BS you can. With screen brightness at a reasonable level, good luck getting more than 3 hours.

[Ryudo]

Actually I can maybe your battery is just destroyed or you had alot running in the background, but getting under 6 hours battery out of my phone is extremely hard off a fully charge.

Am guessing when you play you leave stuff like 3g enabled and possibly other apps running. You also have to remember the Iphone 4 is less then 1 centimeter thick.

And tiny compared to a PSP Go even so there would be alot more room for a bigger battery in the PSP2.

[jerethdagryphon]

newer screen and bascklight tech will improve that charge time led over phospherecent bulbs

[killcycle]

But remember how small the screen is. try playing it on a tv like you do the wii and see how greatly the graphics get reduced.

Just saying, try it out.

[Rush]

@killcycle

Actually the Iphone 4 has a much bigger resolution then the Wii, thus it would look better on a bigger screen then the Wii.

[beardpapa]

Infinity Blade and Rage HD says hello. Not to mention the upcoming Deadspace game. They all say hello to Wii.

[RSPproductionz]

did anyone else look at the pic and think there was something on your screen beside the second P in PSP?

[nycredude]

If there launch lineup has anything Uncharted in it then I will have no choice but to buy this.

[UnwanteDreamz]

@NY

Man why did you say that? I wasn't even interested in PSP2 until you said that. (just the thought peaks my interest)

[ProjectVulcan]

More nonsense headlines. Battery and power consumption limitations dictate this is not really possible with present technology. All this talk of the 3DS managing little more than 3 hours 3D game time and decent screen brightness levels mean that even if PSP2 is manufactured on the 28nm process it wouldnt be enough to allow it to be as fast as PS3.

I predict that PSP2 will be somewhere between Wii and 360, but closer to wii. The amount of energy that PSP2 could possibly consume dictates only this as PS3 AND 360s chipset's are still 50 watt+ devices instead of the milliwatt scale PSP2 will have to be to have reasonable thermals and battery longevity.

PSP2 would be able to get reasonably close to PS3 quality visuals with just that performance though, simply because of the reduced resolution and the advantage of greater memory for developers. Developers prize memory, it makes their jobs a fair bit easier.

Cell based processors are highly unlikely, i doubt immensely it would be based around that technology regardless of Sony's hardware history. I would imagine realistically it uses custom ARM cores-not least of all because Tegra 2 does too. Nvidia built Tegra 2 around dual core ARM A9, with that ready to go license it would be crazy to order nvidia to integrate unfamiliar technology around their GPU core.

[Ju]

I'd be very surprised if Sony goes with an off the shelf Tegra2 chip. They never did in the past, and I am sure they won't start now. There will be plenty of Tegra2 devices out soon. With Android (2.2 and above). A PSP2 would have no chance as "just another Tegra2 based gaming device". Sony did chip customization in the past (see all the vector extensions on their previous MIPS line of cpus for PS1, PS2 and PSP) or the CELL (spu addition to the Power core). I am sure, Sony puts another custom design (with a strong HW partner) into the PSP2. And, power consumption for what an CELL/RSX performance level architecture can do today has been greatly improved. Obviously, scaling down an "old" <2005 design to current e.g. Tegra2 levels is impossible. But none of those new portable devices does that, they go new routes.

This is Sony after all. They have to use their strength and that is HW. Designing and manufactoring, otherwise they could just buy that from somebody else.

[ProjectVulcan]

Nothing surprising about using a Tegra 2 based design. Sony have contracts in place with nvidia, insider figures state it is in fact tegra 2 based. I think that you are dreaming and inventing hardware based only on years old designs for PSP2 when we already know nvidia are probably involved at some level, and the likelyhood of that being Tegra based chipset, some sort of customised chipset.

You call it 'off the shelf' but in reality just because a custom chip can be based on Tegra architecture doesnt mean it'll share identical performance to other tegra based devices. Sony will have given out design briefs. Word inside the industry is Nvidia screwed it up thermals and power wise. Hence the delays, to sort it out, possibly waiting until the 28nm node is widespread this summer. There is no real chance of sony using technology based on PS3's CPU in PSP2.

None of these companies actually design their own chipsets off their own back, they always use primary contractors and collaborate with the IP and designs available to them. In this case it looks like nvidia, in this case its probably tegra, and in tegra's case its ARM. We'll find out soon enough.

[FamilyGuy]

PSP2 gonna have a cell processor in it? Thats the only reason i could think of why a site would make this "as powerful as" claim.

If that's true the most important question coming to my mind is the cost.

Sony is good with hardware so battery life and overheating aren't forefront thoughts but price?

How much would something like this cost? ESPECIALLY with Sonys name on it O.O

[shoddy]

all chips are getting smaller and more efficients so is battery. Look at the ipod nana battery.

don't know for sure

but

Sony will never make a shoddy hardware with %33.4 failure rate.

they keep it under %2 so I don't worry about psp2 overheat.

[SnakeMustDie]

I hope so. It won't be as powerful as the PS3 but the PSP2 at best will be just as powerful as the 360.

[Ryudo]

"Sony will never make a shoddy hardware with %33.4 failure rate."

Nice little troll there, Tell that to my 4 bricked PS2.

[shoddy]

all I say is shoddy hardware and %33.4 rate.

If you're a %33.4 shoddy hardware please stand up.

[madara0sama]

Lol 4 bricked ps2? Yea right. In my many years of owning 1 ps2 it has never failed me and I used to play it for nonstop for hours.

[Ryudo]

There's 3 of them sorry my other one is in my loft

http://img573.imageshack.us...

@below

How do you figure that because one of my consoles have a green sticker on them idiot...

[zeksta]

I'd say you should blame yourself considering you look like a console modder/hacker.

[jib]

2 of my 3 PS2s broke. i know a couple of my friends whos had the same laser breakdowns as well. they weren't modded either

i'm not saying the failure rate was the same as the 360. i wouldn't know. it does seem pretty high from how many stories i've heard about

[gamer2010]

@ SnakeMustDie

It is illogical to say you don't think it will be as powerful as the PS3 but that you think it will be as powerful as the 360. It's illogical because the PS3 and 360 are basically equally powerful. Developers have said it over and over, the designer of both CPUs said it, and the games show it.

[JohnnyAkiba]

I am on the 4rd PS3. MY failure rate is 75%. lol

[kingjoker34]

Nice English bud.

[zeddy]

as powerful as the ps3? then whats the point of the ps3? no i doubt it but it should be a lot beter than the 3ds to start off.

[DeadlyFire]

My Prediction for the specs.

Option 1
4 core Cell CPU + PowerVR 5 Muticore variant

Or

Option 2
GPGPU PowerVR5 Multicore variant.

Either way power will be able to stand at a reasonable level to PS3 and X360 graphics. Should almost match it. Just depends on how many cores the variant has and its performance which has yet to be officially tested and displayed for the public to see. Either way I have no doubts graphics will be on par to PS3 and X360 games. Hardly any change if rumored performance of 4 core PowerVR5 chip are true.

[Ju]

First, I think that statement is meant in the context of a handheld. Like "as power full as it can get for a handheld". I doubt it renders something like 1080p in 60Hz, but it should get the same fidelity on a smaller screen (e.g. UC2/3 level on a say 960x540 or 854x480 screen). This combined with a higher pixel density makes "PS3 like visuals on a handheld".

I am curious about the GPU. I would have guessed NVidia again. But they are pushing the Tegra2 pretty hard. I cannot imagine, though, Sony uses a plain Tegra2. They usually heavily customize their HW to push it to the limits and use their advantage in manufacturing to minimize the HW. If they can work out a deal with NVidia (again) to customize a Tegra2 based chip, than this can be possible. Not sure after the "RSX fiasko" if that's the way they want to go.

PowerVR could be an alternative. I still think, no matter what GPU/CPU they are using, it'll have an additional 4SPUs. This is IP Sony owns, is extremely small and energy efficient and will allow porting PS3 games with relative ease. That, however, would also imply some sort of NVidia GPU (CUDA enabled). CPU remains to be seen. I would be surprised if its an PowerPC ISA based cpu. Unless they completely redesigned that (core from scratch with PowerPC ISA nobody would do such a thing, though), it won't fly in a hand held device (and IBM screwed them over, see 360).

I speculate an ARM based PU, 4 SPUs and an NVidia GPU (basically a custom Tegra2 with some SPUs attached).

That brings me to the point, that this is a typical way Sony solves problems. If they'd go with a custom CPU (like others use ARM licenses) they'd create their own powerful CPU, like Samsungs Humingbird. And Sony-Ericsson could use this in later phone models. But I am sure the right hand doesn't know what the left hand does in that company...LOL. Phones/Tablets won't need SPUs, but the rest could be used.

[visualb]

PSP2 AS POWERFUL AS PS3 : unlikely

HOWEVER

consider the screen is smaller - it might look as good as PS3, just on a smaller screen

still, interesting, why isn't this under rumor though, no official confirmation of its existence yet <_<

[N4g_null]

Wow your knowledge of hardware and what is capable of what is pretty sad. Man I'm just wondering do you guys just buy Sony every thing?

The way you guys eat up hype is pretty bad. Hey but I guess you'll see for your self. It will surely be close to the new ds and the iPhones screen. Yet too much more would cause over heating. Just wondering how old some of you? There isn't a lot of research going on here except for ju and a few others.

Did better graphics really help the psp or the pspgo? The games on the ds beat the psp and monster hunter was what keeping the psp in the game.

Not sure why I'm posting I don't think you can even have a grown up conversation here.

[KiraxYamato]

Man I'm just wondering do you guys just buy Sony every thing?
-Your assumption is faulty.

Yet too much more would cause over heating.
-I'm sorry are you Edgar Cayce?

Just wondering how old some of you?
-You care because. . . ?

Did better graphics really help the psp or the pspgo?
-Yes it absolutely did. That's why Sony took a chunk of the pie from Nintendo who was reign king of portable.

monster hunter was what keeping the psp in the game.
-God of Wars, Peace Walker, Crisis Core, Patapon, Shin Megami Tensei, etc. I would be ignorant to think only one game kept the psp in the game.

[N4g_null]

If it's going to be so powerful I want to see a crysis2 port to it. Just lower the res. I doubt that could happen though.

Sounds like more marketing to me. Lol I hope they get this right though since I'm tired of Sony fans being sour about any thing that does netter than Sony.

[King-Leonidas]

i hope mgs3d comes to psp2

[VegaShinra]

Kaz: "PSP2 will cost $399 US Dollars."

[Kamikaze135]

It most definitely will cost UNDER $400 USD!! Lol

[TheColbertinator]

"PSP2 will have 5D graphics."

"PSP2 is not a gaming device.We never said that."

"You will get a third job to get a PSP2"

"RIIIIIIDGE RACER"

[DOMination]

Anyway, here we have a giant enemy crab. BTW, the generation doesn't start until we say so.

[Ryudo]

Lolz I haven't seen that video in ages xD.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[hot4play]

Old...
Let. It. Go.

[Lyr1c]

Didn't you hear?

It's powered by Cell.

[Pedantic91]

I can the picture PSP2 being a beast in power but i fear there will be many games not fully utilizing it's hardware and we'll simply get ports and remakes with very few original IP's

[Kamikaze135]

Just like the Wii is supposed to be as strong as two Xbox systems.

[Kalipekona]

Yeah and the graphics on 99% of the games still look worse than original Xbox games. Either the Wii isn't that powerful or developers aren't even trying.

[arjman]

Where did you read that?
I heard it was just a souped up gamecube

[wicko]

Its supposed to be 2 gamecubes, not 2 xboxs.

[Zuriel]

If it really is as powerful as a PS3 I hope the studios who have been working on PS3 games have the staff to do projects for it because any studio stuck with PSP or similar graphics/engines would be looking at 3,4,5 year development times and that would just be ridiculous.

So yeah, I can see ALOT of ports and remakes, initially.

[SuperM]

Im sure there is some middleware engine they could use to spead up that process. Im guessing UE3 is already running on the PSP2.

But the positive thing if it really is as powerfull as they say is that all the games made for PS3 and Xbox360 can essentially be made for the PSP2 aswell, so it might end up getting alot of support

[Ju]

If it has for example SPUs and a CUDA enabled GPU, you can pretty much port PS3 engines to that thing with little to no effort. Most of that code would simply compile there (that'll include SPU optimized and shader code). The rest usually is C/C++ code which should easily be ported. Only tricky stuff is some low level DMA code to feed the e.g. SPU pipeline - this will most likely not be the same. That code is close to the metal and usually timing critical, but also very small. That is, if they use SPUs at all. But a latest generation (mobile) CUDA GPU actually has a more sophisticated shader language than the RSX... most likely this will lead to push more code towards the GPU, eventually.

[shoddy]

wich mean it can hook up an 3D HDLED TV and play 3d games online through wifi connection.

WOW imagine your ps3 in yoiur pocket everywhere you go.

day one $500 include tax. Cain't wait.

[wingman32x]

Yes. That was the problem with the PSP, and I hope devs learned something.

A good number of PSP games were just PS2 games on UMD. I hope they put more effort into making portable exclusive games this time around.

[Godmars290]

So odes that mean the battery time is less than the 3DS?

[SuperM]

probably, but sony is definately gonna put in a bigger battery then what Nintendo did. Id like to have eternal battery on my devices but im not to worried about it. I dont mind playing while connected to the wall, im just happy i can bring my gaming device with me when we go on vacation. 3 hours is usually enough for any gaming session you'd have on a portable. You just have to remember to plug it in afterwards

[Sigh]

I just hope battery life is ok. At least 6-8 hours gameplay on lowest light settings.

[N4OGs]

Powerful as the PS3 ? a bit overkill dont you think ?
I can the picture PSP2 being a beast in power but i fear there will be many games not fully utilizing it's hardware and we'll simply get ports and remakes with very few original IP's

just like the 3ds with zelda, star fox, RE, metal gear 3d and monkey ball. only psp2 will have the superior version with dual anolog and better online. friend codes on 3ds for the loss.

[jerethdagryphon]

remember that patent app for the 4 spe cell that could very well power this and it would give processing power similar to a ps3

[Ju]

Some of the PSP games have pretty nice cut scenes. And in game these drop pretty drastically.

Such a new device could most likely give you in game visuals like those cut scenes. That would be very impressive, indeed.

[Tjernobieleke]

Bring on the TFLOPS!!

[Rage_S90]

lol not even gona lie that was a good 1

[tigertron]

Hmmm if it is as powerful as a PS3 and has a decent battery life then thats brilliant, but I'm not sure about that. Maybe the visuals will be more towards the PS3, like the PSP's were more like the PS2's than the PS1's. We'll just have to wait and see.

[EliteDave93]

No way it will be as powerful as the PS3!

[SuperM]

If you mean as in "just as powerfull", then yeah you're right. But i think the main point is that when playing the games they're gonna look like games for PS3/360. Screen resolution will probably be lower so i believe its possible.

[DoomeDx]

It might be possible.
Considering the resolution is alot lower!
+ They can lower some little details which you will not see on a small screen.

[xskipperx82]

No it's not. Sony said the same thing about the PSP being as powerful as the PS2 and that was not true.

[DoomeDx]

It was, just a lower resolution.

[HappyGaming]

@Rage_S90
I <3 Gumtrol

[Rage_S90]

what the guy above me said

[Lyr1c]

What the guy above me said about the guy above him.

[ThanatosDMC]

^what they said

[chesed]

I farted.

[Stealth20k]

Even the iphone 4 has as much ram as the ps3.......so they are probably talking about ram and not so much graphics because the psp wasnt even at ps2 level.

[Spinal]

Glad to see some sense coming fom someone on here.

[sjaakiejj]

Are you sure about that?

[SuperM]

Actually the PSP2 is going to have 1gb of RAM which is twice as much as both the PS3 and Xbox 360. I havent heard anyone say its going to be more powerfull then the PS3 so i dont think they are refering to just the RAM. PSP was close to PS2 level quality. Not quite there but very close. If PSP2 can come as close to the PS3 as PSP came to the PS2 then id say this statement is valid. And i dont see why not.

PS2 Launch: 2000 - PSP Launch: 2005 (5 years later) Almost PS2 level graphics

PS3 Launch: 2006 - PSP2 Launch: 2011 (5 years later) By all means of common sense it should have almost PS3 level graphics.

Edit: PS3 would have released in 2005 but they had to wait because the bluray technology wasnt quite finished, so PSP2 is on a technical evolution scale more like 6 years after PS3.

[Ju]

And yet, the PSP was a similar architecture like the PS2. They re-used a lot of it's key design points. This was a MIPS core, vector extensions and dedicated HW for specific tasks (sound, etc). The GS was replaced by a second MIPS based GPU. It even runs a higher clock speed (333MHz vs 200) and has twice the RAM (64MB, eventually, only 32MB usable).

So, the analogy still stands. A PSP2 - if Sony follows its tradition - will most likely be the same in respect to the PS3 (well, it won't run a 5GHz core, that's for sure).

They usually wait until technology matures and create a minimized version of it (with changes where necessary, of course).

[AWBrawler]

you stole my words

also keep in mind these are early 3DS games we saw, and that new RE looks good for an early game. This Time around Nintendo and Sony's portble graphics maybe be as close as 360 and ps3.

[mcstorm]

If its as powerful as the PS3 then I can see this being its downfall not because of the battery life or game purely on the price.

If we are looking at £300 for the 3DS and people are complaing about that and I think they are right too. But sony dont do cheep anything so we will be looking at the psp2 at being £400 to £500 and I dont think people will be looking at buying a hand held that costs more than there PS3.

I love my PSPGo and imo it is by far the best hand held on the market but the price is way to steep for the device and this is what held the pspgo back. I got a good deal when I got mine as I got the free 10 games for it for £200 but this is the max I would go for a hand held console as it dose not get used anywhere near as much as the home consoles so to shell out more than that is a wast of money.

But on the flip side if it is as powerful as they are saying and Sony keep the price down and the bring it out with the right games I see the PSP2 gaing ground on the 3ds this gen. I will be picking a PSP2 up the day it is £200 or less but not until its this price.

[Jdoki]

I think there's going to be more parity in pricing between PSP2 and 3DS.

Ninty need to recoup R&D costs for the 3D tech, and the device is more powerful than the DS. Plus they are not ditching the DS any time soon, so they need to have a different price point for the devices.

The PSP2 (in my opinion) is probably going to use a lot more standardised components - probably something a generation or two above the current high end smart phones, but optimised for gaming.

I would anticipate that whatever price the 3DS launches at, the PSP2 will be less than £50 more expensive.

[kneon]

I expect they are using Sharp 3D screens so the R&D is minimal. Nintendo don't typically develop much new tech, they tend to license tech from other companies.

[49erguy]

Please be backwards compatible and no ethernet wifi. I wanna play MORE PEACE WALKER!

[hot4play]

Yes please I want to keep playing my PSN purchases...

Crossing my fingers for PS2 games playable on the PSP2!

[SnakeMustDie]

Once the PSP2 is released, Kojima should patch the game to allow the use of the second analog nub on the PSP2(if it does have it).

[gorebago]

If they use ps3 components i'm sure they're cheaper now to produce than they were five years ago so I doubt itll be that expensive. I paid $500 for my ps3 and they retail for $300 now.

[fooltheman]

Soryy I just can't believe this... ^^

[Jdoki]

When they say 'As powerful as a PS3' we're talking relative scales here.

You don't need a CPU/GPU as powerful as the PS3's when you're outputting to a lower resolution screen.

So I don't see any reason why we shouldn't see a massive bump in image quality on the PSP2.

Personally I'd rather they concentrate on making easy to use hardware - I always found that analogue nub really uncomfortable. And making games that fit a portable machine better - too many PSP games just felt like watered down PS2 games, rather than something dedicated to the handheld format.

[gorebago]

My hands cramp up when I use my psp for some time so I hope they make it easier to use in that regard.

[ApexHell]

which psp do you have gorebago, i know my hands cramp on 3000, and 2000 but they dont on the 1000.

[gorebago]

That's the one I have. I've only noticed it doing so when playing laying down. Probably some reasonable science to explain it.

[Masterchef2007]

wow thats pretty powerful for a handheld. I really hope that it uses an OLED screen cause that would really be good for a handheld albeit pricey. When they showed off the 3DS i thought it was powerful until the power of the PSP2 was announced.

[49erguy]

Kinda random, but people are gonna just call it PSP. I don't see anyone calling it PSP2. BTW it IS going to be called PSP2 right?

[Spinal]

LOL only idiots think that the PSP 2 will be able to play PS3 games. Dont get ahead of yourself.

[Lyr1c]

LOL only idiots put limitations on a console which hasn't even been publicly revealed yet.

[Spinal]

You can continue to live in dreamland. Good luck with that dream. Yeah the PS3 processing power in the palm of your hand with good battery life too? Rofl. Yeah good luck with that dream. No fan cooling system or anythin lool

[Bolts]

Why is that so hard to believe? The PSP is almost as powerful as the PS2. The PS3 is a 2006 era design with 512K. Now a days 512k is standard in droids and the iPhone 4. Sure it might not match the PS3 in playing Bluray games like Uncharted 2 but it should come close enough.

Welcome to 2011.

[g-nome]

Should call it PS3P then....

[the_manson_charles]

only the time to tell..

[josephayal]

hmm a ps3 portable..WANT

[lelo2play]

"PSP2 as powerful as PS3, set for Q4 launch"

I say BS for the PSP2 being as powerful as the PS3 (unless it's as big and expensive as the Ipad). As for the Q4 launch... that's probably true.

[Hairy Chewie]

As others have said, relative to its screen size, it's definitely not impossible. But yeah, I'd put money on Q4.

[g5bay]

psp2 cant wait for it

[Kran]

Pllleeeeaaassssseeeee support trophies.

I mean Sony said the reasonv why they wouldnt add trophies into the PSP1 was because it takes away the idea of what the PSP is. Having trophies would make it more fun!

[sjaakiejj]

Well, it's competing against 3ds and Iphone, so it has to be. Other than that, don't you guys think January is a bit of an odd timing? I would've expected the PSP2 to be announced at a big conference, e.g. E3. But since they're announcing it now, it seems to imply that there's something bigger geared up for E3...

[spdarksky]

I seriously doubt it. They said the same thing that PSP will be as powerful as PS2 and what do we consumer got at the end? Not even close to the performance of PS2. I really do hope so, but until the final product is being shown. This is just more talk and just a hype, no more than that.

[sjaakiejj]

As posted above, Don't make claims that you can't validate. PSP actually does a really good job at performing like the PS2

[spdarksky]

You've got to be kidding me. Good job??? I've got myself PSP and sold it. The games really is not even close to PS2 quality. I'm not claiming, it is just facts. Performs LIKE the PS2 but NOT as powerful, the choice of words do make a difference.

Please stop the fanboysm and face the reality. Texture are moody, polygons were so low and a lot of frame drops, and i do mean A LOT.

[sjaakiejj]

.. Look at the images I posted, it's impossible to distinguish between God of War 2 and God of War: Ghost of Sparta. God of War 2 is seen as the pinnacle of PS2 graphics, and the PSP does a perfect job on imitating that.

If you sold your PSP I bet that was a long time ago. The games releasing now are at PS2 quality. Remember that PS2 games didn't always look good either.

[Miiikeyyy]

depends on the developer, God of war devs obviously make amazing looking games on the psp, monster hunter looks amazing on the psp! it just depends on who developed it

[jay2]

Nah, won't have a moble built in, thats the Xpedia Plays job. It'll have skype again, though.

[silvacrest]

think about it this way

xperia play = mainly phone + gaming on the side

PSP2 = mainly gaming + phone on the side

if they can manage both i will certainly go for the PSP2

[digitaledge]

Personally, I don't really care what the overall resolution is going to be. The main thing for me is the games. As long as the PSP2 can attract a steady stream of top quality games, then I'll be happy.

HD resolution doesn't really matter that much on a small screen - I kind of wish that Sony would realise that simply beefing up the technology isn't the only solution. There is are several reasons that the DS was so successful, and huge graphical processing power is not one of them.

[liveActionLeveler]

Yea true, that the DS did sell a lot because of all those games, but some gamers want a super powerful portable, and no other company satisfies that. That is why the PSP brand exists.

[rlm41]

Yep wouldn't surprise me if the PSP2 is as powerful as the 4 year old tech PS3, technology advances fast..

[nevin1]

So its basically 3DS's 3D vs PSP2's HD?

anyway, if Sony says PSP2 will be as powerful as PS3 then i believe them considering PSP overall does mirror a PS2. If the US price of 3DS ends up being $200-$300 then expect PSP2 bee in that range. Good move of keeping physical media but I really want know what it will and the storage capacity since its rumored that the 3DS will have a whopping 8GB.

[Trunkz]

As powerful as PS3? Expect this to cost $399...

[Garnett]

If the PSP2 Is as powerful as the PS3 then it only shows how weak the PS3 is, so thats why i doubt the PSP2 is as powerful as the PS3.

If anything its probably running off the new dual core processor that the new upcoming phones have.

[silvacrest]

the PS3 is 4 years old, technology advances very quickly

the PS3 is not weak, its old

[ME1989]

The PS3 is more like 6 years old. It released in 2006, but the components and design were already completed for it in 2005.

@Garnett:

That's really dumb thinking. Tech improves year by year in an exponential fashion. It's not hard at all to see a PS3 come out, and 6 years down the line, have a portable version. MORE than feasible.

[silvacrest]

" and maybe even incorporate a phone, but not as a primary function"

if this is true, i will sell my xperia play (when i get it) for the PSP2, although i might get the PSP2 even if it doesnt have any phone functions since its sounds quite awesome atm

and official info coming in late january?? i was expecting GDC or E3

[Serinous]

interesting... wouldnt the battery life suck then?

[Kon]

I imagine the price...

[SuperStrokey1123]

Talk is cheap guys, wait for teh system to actually get revealed...

[PSWarlord]

I really cant see this being true...Anyway we haven't seen the true potential of the PS3(Beast) yet!But really how can something that small be as powerful!I can see it being maybe like a PS2.5!If im wrong I am more than happy to eat my hat (Because I dont owe one lol)!

One wish for the PSP2 other than being a reasonable price, is 4G support so we can play online without the need of Wifi

[SuperStrokey1123]

Hype like this is NOT good for the system cause it will never be able to deliver. They will just toss in a 4 core cell and like a gig or so of ram and a nice screen. match a good vid card and you will have a decent system but not PS3 power, maybe in some aspects as it will have more ram but thats it.

[Simco876]

3DS is going to be hard to beat... too many little kids out there that love Nintendo. No matter how much power the PSP2 has

[SuperStrokey1123]

adults too, and plus it has awesome 3d in it... going to be really hard to beat I agree. Prehaps it will compete differently kind of like how PSP and DS were after slightly different markets.

[SuperbVillain]

Ok I'm a bit confused could somebody help me? is the PSP2 and PSPhone the same device of are they different?

[Kon]

They're different

[SuperbVillain]

Oh alright,Thanks!

[chesed]

I dunno. Seems misleading to me.

If the PSP2 as a whole was "as powerful" as a PS3, I would imagine you'd be able to run an HDMI port to a TV and it would look exactly like a PS3. In which case, why sell a PS3 when you have one that's portable. Blu-ray I guess?

I don't buy this "as powerful as a PS3 when adjusting for size" stuff. If that's the case, then they should say it as such.

In fact, if it was just as powerful, I'd imagine it'd be overkill for such a small screen, unless it was able to be played on a TV. The PSP can (to an extent), so let's see if the PSP2 measures up to this statement.

I mean, didn't Sony learn yet that more powerful doesn't necessarily mean more money? I mean, this console generation is still going, but Wii and DS has completely dominated so far. Don't get me wrong, I love my PS3. I think it's a fantastic piece of technology and it has become my main console now (I still enjoy xbox, tho). But comon Sony, I wanna see you succeed.

[3rdDimension]

LOL at the PSP2 will crush 3DS comments.

People still haven't learned from Wii and DS. Here is a scenario that will play out in stores across the US. Customer walks into gaming store and store rep says... PSP 2 graphics are like PS3's graphics, but 3DS has 3d without glasses! Customer says.." Sign me up!".

[Trroy]

No handheld can come close to touching the PS3. I can't believe these rumors persist.

I'm sure its awesome -- probably better than any other handheld. But its NOT more powerful than a PS3. Those chips haven't been invented yet, and if they had, the whole world would already know about it.

I'm getting one -- but I'm not expecting a handheld PS3.. lol.

[ME1989]

If it's as powerful as the PS3, I hope it has a monster battery =/

[GigaGaia]

That won't change the fact that the 3DS is probably gonna sell a lot more anyway. Trying to compete against Nintendo in handleheld gaming is foolish.

[silvacrest]

sony sold something like 62 million psp's, are you saying that shouldnt have bothered?

just selling half of what the DS has done (which is pretty much what the psp has done) is still alot of money coming in

[GigaGaia]

I didn't say it was foolish to make the PSP to begin with. I say it was a little foolish to think they could rivalize nintendo.

Sony should make a pure gaming device instead of adding media capabilities. If people wanted a device that sucked at gaming and was good in media capability, they'd go buy an ipod.

[silvacrest]

"I say it was a little foolish to think they could rivalize nintendo."

what makes you think they tried to do this? comparing both devices gaming line up suggests that wasnt there intention to begin with

as for your media comment i think it would be foolish to focus 100% on gaming when music, vids, apps etc could be incorporated easily without compromising gaming performance

if it did gaming and nothing else, what would it have over the DS? superior looking games and nothing else

if i wanted a pure gaming handheld i would honestly by a gameboy advanced and call it a day, its 2011, people want more features with their new products not less

lastly, out off all the companies, sony cant afford to just make a gaming handheld, they would be accused of taking away features for no good reason and those accusations would have merit

[SanMarco]

thats pretty crazy...this is a huge jab at microsoft.

its almost like a new console dropping if it can run ps3 games...

[-Gespenst-]

Despite how small the PSP was, I was actually pretty surprised and impressed by how little was lost in terms of immersion and gameplay. I definitely think uncharted would be just as good on a PSP as powerful as a PS3. You might deny it now, but I'm certain it would look surprisingly great, as would most games.

[the new king 74]

$399? right next to a $ 199 ps3? not a good move...

[massapeal79]

hardly to believe psp2 more powerful than the ps3 if it is the price is going to be hight but i call this bs... there talking shit because there scared of the 3ds...

[Darkfiber]

Now if only it was a phone, I'd actually consider getting it. It's obviously not going to be as powerful as the PS3 despite what they say, or they will be in competition with themselves, which would just be stupid. Don't expect every PS3 game to come out with an identical version on PSP.

[mamotte]

Why do I want HD in a small screen? I want big batteries for travel, gimme that for once, and I´m sold

[JohnnyAkiba]

When PSP was launched they say it is as powerful as a PS2. Which is not true.

[ForgiveMyAim]

Who cares does this thing have 3D or not?

[Fel08]

As long as Sony doesn't make it the same price as the PS3, when it first came out, I might get one.

[silkrevolver]

...I can’t wait for the announcement. I really want to fight miniature enemy crabs and attack their weak point for massive damage.

[blackburn5]

If Sony can pull this off they will kick @$$.A portable with the same power as it's console equivalent? Awesome. Just imagine if it could play Bluray quality movies too.

[theafroman]

also heard from ign that it shoots lasers full of love.

[lveloria]

Not too interested in the PSP2. PSP's games have always been too much like what you get with at home console games. I'd rather just play games like that on a big screen and with a real controller.

[Big_Dom]

Anyone who thinks that PSP2 will even remotely be close to a 360 or PS3 needs slapped on the head with a frying pan hard to knock some sense into their skulls. What a joke.

[Rahim92]

The PS3 will lose it's charm if thats true...

[creamsoda]

Awesome will finally be able to emulate PS2 games.

[dmonee]

How is everyone commenting on something we know nothing about? This has to be one of those,"I will believe it when I see it" type devices. I can't imagine this device will be able to produce current gen graphics, AI, and physics. It's all speculation and hype at this point. I also doubt this thing will be coming next winter. No way.

[Burning_Finger]

Make.Believe

[mightyboot]

As long its games look awesome and play awesome the sheer awesomeness of the PSP2 will make people want PS3 ports for the PSP2 :D

it would be so badass playing battlefield and call of duty on a handheld that plays exacly like home consoles.

[Enigma_2099]

BULL****!!!!

[Shackdaddy836]

If the psp2 is as powerful as the ps3 then I will buy it in a heartbeat. But I just cant see it happening. Its hard to believe.

[liveActionLeveler]

Honestly I think they're going to use the 4-core, because of the recent purchase of the Toshiba factory thing, and the fact that the PSP had similar innards compared to the PS2.

[zero_cool]

It's best to wait & reserve judgment later until we see the whats under the hood with the final product specs.