Square Enix dev says 'we can't compete with Red Dead Redemption' | JRPG Tribe

Square Enix’s Hiroyuki Saegusa recently revealed to us just how he feels about open world titles such as last year’s smash hit, Red Dead Redemption. Saegusa – director for upcoming hack and slash title Lord of Arcana – explained that he had recently been playing Red Dead Redemption and Call of Duty: Black Ops in his spare time. When asked his opinion on Rockstar’s wild west epic, he had a rather honest reply...

[TheOldOne]

Wow, Square Enix suck.

[TheGamerBible]

SE is a shadow of its former self. Some bad decisions and a refusal to adapt to nex gen standards have knocked it from its pedestal it had on the ps2. Hopefully god will send them some good fortune with FF versus13 and Hitman 5.

[Yi-Long]

... interesting characters and stories, coupled with a battle-system that stays interesting and fun.

Ow, and it would also help if they didn't force a mediocre dub on it's customers.

[rockleex]

They can make MMO's and FF12 but can't make an open world like Red Dead or GTA?

Not much difference.

But what sucks is that they can't even create great linear games anymore.

Seriously, FF13 was sh*t. Here's my reasons why:

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

[ComboBreaker]

but Squaresoft's linear games of the past can easily compete with the likes of open-world games such as Red Dead Redemption.

It's all about the quality, not the open-ness or linear-ness.

[bakasora]

noob!
the fall of Japanese video gaming industry indeed

[Ratchet510]

No they dont because they made the best RPGs ever in history called FF 7 and 8, dissidia, 13 vs and vs agito. who cares about open world SOTC did it better than weak ass GTA and RDR, those games are the same but RDR is in wild west style wich is boring.

[hay]

Rockstar's open world games have no match, that's true but I have a feeling that with this mentality he isn't aiming for big things.

[Rainstorm81]

Dear Square Enix:

Step your game up!!

[NnT3291]

I agree, R*'s open world games are the best. And your avatar made me lol Xd

[firefoxprime]

I actually kinda feel sorry for SE.
Hopefully their conference on the 18th will reveal some solid gameplay from VersusXIII, Agito, KH3D, and the speculated FFVII remake. I actually enjoy their current action-rpg direction. hack n slash ftw

[FailOverHero]

You darn skippy you can't! I'm sorry but this gen belongs to Western Devs when it comes to HD consoles.

[jony_dols]

Yeah Capcom and Square Enix really have fallen flat this gen.
Look at what they have done to great franchises such as Resident Evil and FF...

Hopefully Team Ico can redeem Japanese devs this gen.....

[Cloudberry]

.
Although...

Rather than saying "couldn't compete", he could / should say that "Red Dead Redemption motivates us (Square Enix) to make better games."

I actually don't mind if Square Enix trying to build / copy their own open world games and integrate them with their own RPGs.

If they could make it better, why not?

[ps3rider]

square enix in this generation sucks.

[TheGamerBible]

Why does this have 3 agrees but the first comment that says the same thing has 4 disagrees? Nice one n4g.

[jony_dols]

Ps3rider specifically said that Square Enix suck this generation.

While the first comment said that Square Enix suck, in general (so that pretty much includes all of Square Enixs games from last gen including FF-X...)

[ps3rider]

I will tell you,
because squre enix is not sucks but in this generation its sucks

[TheOldOne]

I meant in this generation but whatever.

[TheColbertinator]

Square Enix devs have no confidence in themselves so why should I have confidence in their games?

Long ago Squaresoft was the among the top wealthiest publishers along EA and THQ.How far they have fallen.

[Goeres]

I will always heart Square, especially when they were softer :( I still have faith in SE doing the right thing with letting Nomura work on Vs13 alone with his team.

[Perjoss]

this is true, the problem is Square and Square Enix are not the same

[mrmikew2018]

If they can break out of their traditional methods of making games I'm pretty sure they can make a title that can surpass RDR.

I'm not trying to tick anybody off here, but is RDR that much different than the GTA series?

[Cherchez La Ghost]

The West has been making some good games for the past several years.

[SnakeMustDie]

They can't compete with RDR? I guess SE is really that horrible.

[k-Lan]

Are you implying RDR is what you would consider a bad game?

[visualb]

well with that mentality of course not...

how about you make your thing, and try not to suck **** in the west and MAYBE, just MAYBE something awesome will come out

[Stealth20k]

basically no one but rockstar can make games like that.....not anyone.

I would rather square continue with jrpgs and continue with what they have talent with

square has been making insanely good handheld games this gen, and if they took the japanese approach to there console games like they do there handheld games they would be number 1

and all these idiots posting about capcom are dead wrong

street fighter 4, Mvs C, dead rising, al there handheld games have been great

[Nicaragua]

But Devil May Cry 4, Lost Planet 2, Bionic Commando, and Resi 5 have all been pretty poo - and these are big well loved franchises that could have been amazing.

I would debate that Street Fighter 4 is pretty crap too but thats just my opinion.

[GT5___]

agree , street fighters is sucks .... the gampelay is broing , idunno why people like it and they hate tekken 6 ...

[TruthBTold]

I agree too. SF4 was nothing like the previous street fighters which are still more fun to play. The players feel so bulky and slow. I sold my copy for like 5 dollars. I want to get the super street fighter 2 and alphas which were 100 times better.

[SpoonyRedMage]

I completely agree with you and Akitoshi Kawazu(of Square Enix) pretty much said the same thing a while ago. He said Japanese developers can't compete on some levels but they shouldn't worry about it they should just concentrate of what they can do best.

[BatClarkeee]

red dead fantasy X.
coming in 2012.

[Neckbear]

Now with 200% more angst, 100% more bad dialog and 500% more homosexual characters desgined by Nomura.

[TruthBTold]

Lol bubbles to you sir. I think we can expect SE to try and pull off a RDR soon with homosexual characters as my friend above mentioned and some fairy music.

[Lirky]

Well square-enix published just cause 2 biggest free roam sandbox game ever.

[Ashriel]

keyword: "published"

[Lirky]

keyword: "you're right"

[JusenkyoGuide]

sucks making good games on the home consoles. they make excellent ones on the handhelds though. the only jrpg companies that actually are trying are nis and atlus.

[theonlylolking]

I think RDR is overrated and finial fantasy 13 is far better than it.

[Xfanboy]

at least red dead is new!! FF is to over milked!! FF14?? = over milked..

[theonlylolking]

I agree FF is milked but RDR is new poop.

[TruthBTold]

Sorry to disagree but FF13 was unplayable in the sense that it was too boring. Nothing about it pulled you in to the game. RDR was a better game by a long shot. SE messed up on their originality and tried to add western styles to their games which was a bad mixture. Maybe they will find the right combination one day if they really want to pursue westernising their games but for now they are loosing money and gamers.

[theonlylolking]

I like FF13. The story I thought was really great and the characters. Now the battle system does get repetitive.

[Lionalliance]

hahaha....no

[xino]

Damn...Japanese Games Industry is dying man and lack technology
as Itagaki and Inafune said!

I've never seen any sandbox games released by Japan...or not that I'm aware of anyway.

-Ninja Gaiden 3- is sick!:)

[NnT3291]

they have Yakuza, it's like GTA mixed with Tekken. Dont get me wrong, it's a good series, but the tech used in Yakuza is kinda dated and cant compete with Western sandbox games like GTA, Infamous or RDR.

[Rybnik]

I am so rediculously sick of hearing what Squeenix can't do. They can't make sandbox games, they can't do HD towns, they can't make 'western' style games...just SHUT UP!! Make the games you used to make EASTERN RPG's..That is why Westerners buy (used to buy) your games...make FF Versus XIII. Seriously what the F*&%$# is wrong with this company!!!

[Dude_]

Er, why on Earth should they?

[HmongAmerican]

its all about the handheld for them this gen. most of their big title's now either on psp or DS and soon we'll see alot on the 3DS.

[Edito]

Ain't suppose to compete in every fields Rockstar can't compete in the RPGs field the problem is that SE can't even do right they're core type of game that's why his sou down about it and better be cause RocksStar isn't playing around they are doin serious things for the ones who likes it us gamers...

[GeneGodHand]

Get the team that made FF12 and make them make a Ps3 exclusive they have loads of talent.

[Sagetech]

SquareEnix probably couldnt compete but i bet Squaresoft could :)

[Mr_Luke]

They can't compete with Red Dead Redemption? They can't compete with anything, they became so crappy....
Only the old glorious Squaresoft could.