Our Views On The PS3 "Hack" (Splinter Gamer)

As you all may well know, Sony’s PlayStation 3 was hacked by a group known as Failoverflow. What’s immediately going to jump out to most people is the idea that it could (and likely will) cause piracy. But, however, is that the end of the story?

[MintBerryCrunch]

whoa a reasonable discussion at hand??

lets see how this compares to a blog that calls Hackers the "scum of the gaming industry"

i can see how pirating the PS3 in other regions where you can sell bootlegged copies of games, but in N.America and Europe as well as many other places, its too easy to find a torrent site and D/L a game....this hack hasnt gotten this far, but all you need is a knowledgeable developer or programmer to make it work and just release it on the net

these hackers condone piracy, but being open source leaves to abuse of the programming and thats when people take advantage of a system and its games...i still dont understand how cheating or hacking is fun unless you find trolling fun and pissing off gamers who dont care about their K/D ratio and just want to have fun

[AndrewRyan]

MINTBERRYCRUNCH!

[pixelsword]

^ There's your answer, Mint.

j/k

[AndrewRyan]

Well he is THE MintBerryCrunch. He can`t be wrong!

[ThanatosDMC]

He saved us from the immortal Cthulhu.

[Balt]

And that's just the thing -- Why should anyone really care about this hack here? If you're against it, don't do it. Buy your games like you would and shut the **** up. Buy those EA games at 60 bucks when you know they should be 9.99. That's your right to do so. If you don't want to hack your system, by all means don't do it. You have no right to tell me or anyone else what we should do with our hardware, though. And you're no better for being against it as I am for being for it.

Don't get all huffy and puffy about others who want this to go down for the right reasons. Those being the choice to open our Ps3's up and run apps that make sense to us. Apps that can change our Ps3's into a system "we" like, rather than a system Sony likes.

The Ps3 should've been open from day one. PC's are -- Why not the Ps3? I haven't seen too many PC's running the same software or themes -- Why? Because they allow us to stylize the units to our taste.

Sony should've done the same.

I want the choice to move my xmb icons around. To hide the ones I don't use. To take trophy support away. To install apps to the xmb that allows more codec for video playback -- MKV anyone?

This is my system, I bought one and another was bought for me, I want to do what I want to do with it. And none of what I want to do involves stealing games or downloading them. I don't care about the game side of this -- I care about the app side of it. If a game is good enough I'll buy it -- If it's not I won't not only not buy it, but I won't even give it a second look. Why would I want to steal it if it sucks? I wouldn't and nobody else would either.

People who are crying about this are conformist.

[mrv321]

I'd like to remind you that a gaming console is quite different to a PC, I never bought a NES hoping to run Linux on it.

Again, Sony aren't trying to screw with you ( I kinda wish they could break your console ) or us. They don't just sit in the board room and say

'Well we could release all this awesome stuff, and earn us money or we could just lol'

There's a lot of reason both financial and hardware based preventing the PS3 from doing what you want. If you want to move your XMB around then tell me that not being able to do that is detrimental. And again, BY HAVING A CLOSED SYSTEM YOU CAN OPTIMIZE. If you move youXMB icons around you screw up the load order and you slow down the device.

You bought a system for features that where advertised to you, you got those features, now you expect features that wherne't advertised to you... and yes hey removed linux but if you have a PC you can run a version 1,000x better.

FINALLY.

IF YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND PIRATING A GAME WILL STOP THE ONLINE PASS AND THE 60 BUCKS FOR AN UNFINISHED GAME THEN YOU ARE WRONG. THEY LOOK AT SALES FIGURES BY SIMPLY NOT BUYING THE GAME YOU WILL SHOW THEM. PIRATING ONLY SHOWS THEM THEY NEED STRONGER DRM...

Is Ubisoft announces a similar DRM for PS3 and 360 I am holding YOU responsible.

[Balt]

And for what? I don't steal games -- I have no need to. I don't game but 2 hours a month, on a good month. "The Fight: Lights out discluded".

I don't care who steals a game or what they do with it when they do it. I don't have a need to do it because there aren't enough good games out there to warrant it or, on the other foot, enough good games that interest me.

I'm talking APPS. I could care less about stealing games, man. You all do that all you want. My mindset is this, if it isn't good enough to buy why would you want to steal it? 95% of all games released today suck and suck bad. You only steal what you have a desire to own because you cannot own it any other way.

I have plenty of money, believe me. Lots of it. I can buy as many games as I want when I want to. There just isn't any worth my time or money. Therefore pirating games is moot for me.

[mrv321]

If you have plenty of money... I assume you can afford things, I guarantee there will not be a single app on the PS3 that you can't do better on a PC.

So get a tiny computer, put linux on it and away you go.

[ActionBastard]

@Balt
"And for what? I don't steal games -- I have no need to. I don't game but 2 hours a month, on a good month."

So you care why?

[ActionBastard]

Hackers have a need to show their skills, the "how's" to how they accomplished said hack. They love posting and making declarations. What no one seems to understand is there are corporately paid "hackers" working on the security themselves, reading these "How To's" and following their methods (which were most likely planted by Sony) to close any holes. Look at the USB jailbreak...tons of hacks, all kinds of info on how to, all kinds of tutorials...and now they are useless. People can hold onto the "master" key all they want, it's not THE master, it's A master. Big difference.

EDIT: Bubbles back joeorc! I just had cookies, so I'm good! :)

[joeorc]

like the saying goes

"there is more than one way to skin a cat, and there is more than one way to bypass or block a Hack"

you get a bubble+ i would give you a cookie but im all out..sorry..lol

[cemelc]

This is the best way to describe the joke of these "homebrew enthusiast" (crackers).

"The group involved say they are vehemently anti-piracy, and have no intention whatsoever to pirate any games. However, they have let the cat out of the bag. If said group were so concerned about piracy, then they would not have allowed the code to go up into the public domain. Therefore, as a completely neutral observer, I find it difficult to believe such words."

What load of B.S they said.

[Loner]

I dont know why PS3 fanboys are crying so much.This will cause an increase in hardware sales and who knows the PS3 might finally get out of last place because of it

[ActionBastard]

Yeah, tons of people are running out to spend $300 on something they could brick.

[Loner]

Teething problems
It will be worked out soon

[UP]

failoverflow, that is the name of the hackers. There is a 360 fanboy with the same name and pic. Now it all makes sense.