CVG: Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg has revealed what he thinks makes a great console exclusive game.
Greenberg actuall answered correctly. I agree with the answer.
Why all the disagrees? The first part where he said "Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day." is actually pretty correct. That doesn't mean that Microsoft is doing it though.
well it is kinda obvious what makes a good game
Your doing it wrong can't support microsoft on this site if you want to keep your bubbles.
Did you realized that he said secret to a great exclusive is making a great game?
Greenberg: The secret to a great exclusive is...having some in the first place.... you can take that comment either way, i know what i meant by it
Weird...he didn't say anything about the Kinect sensor. I jest, I jest.
I agree with what he says. Its just that microsoft isnt doing that. Just my opinion
Well apparently no one share this secret with Xbox devs because they're hardly any exclusives to be hand in 2011. :P
How the hell would Greenburg know what makes a good exclusive. 360 barely has any. It's like Sony is trying so hard to please gamers with their exclusives and Microsoft isn't really trying at all. Sony can have Motion control games, hardcore games and motion controlled hardcore games. Microsoft seems to only know how to do casual games lately.
...pay them oodles of cash?
"Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day." Im sorry everybody..but he better not be talking about halo 3/reach, fable 2, forza 3 or gears 2.....lol
i thought he was talking about uncharted 2 for a second
Be quiet troll. You wouldn't know a good game if it smacked you in the face. Yes, all of those games are great games.
you kidding...? right?
You guys shouldn't be so quick to hit disagree, he did describe what it takes to make a great exclusive game. Now if they can just get ALL of their developers...RARE... to do that, they will be OK! I hope they don't plan on riding Halo into the sunset because they are coming out with too many Halo games too soon. And as much as I like Gears, I fear the same will happen there as well!
they should have done that with the 500 million that they spent on kinect
the secret of a great exclusive is if its on the ps3
well that was amazingly fanboyish, and im a ps3 supporter, there are great exclusives on all 3 consoles, you should be more open minded about gaming.
LAIR.. 'Nuff said. Hehehehehe, I just make joke, I kid. :)
i have all three consoles and a psp , nothing beats the exclusives coming from the ps3, my xbox gathers alot of dust, actually its on ebay as we speak
The secret to a great xbox exclusive is: 1)5 Cups of Milk 2)2 Sticks of Hype (to really fluff it out) 3)A Pinch of Mediocrity 4)Cook for a year MAX 5)Serve On Two Plates (Let cool for about a year before serving)
Very creative. Bubbles up.
Lmao, thanks xD
Lmao, nice one.
@Lyr1c Have a bubble for dessert
when you say "two plates" do you mean the Xbox and the PC? :P
If we had polls for comment of the week this one would be the top candidate right now lol. lol +bubble @madpuppy I'll wait for Lyr1c's response but I thought with that he meant on two discs...but it could also mean the supposed "exclusives" that are also on PC. I've played a lot of "xbox exclusives" on my Sony Vaio lol.
Lyr1c I also gave you a bubble.. Great comment.. and true! LOL gta2800 I also though 360 and PC
Gold Star answer! Then he gets a D for saying 2011 is ultimately all about Kinect.
at least for microsoft it is
I agree with you that he answered the question correctly but the only problem is the answer is true for any franchise exclusive to one console or not... "Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day. That's the key to making any great game, unless I missed something.
isnt that sonys formula
must be a tough secret cause he hasn't announced one in a long time and by the looks of it, it seems like he won't be announcing one either.
lol how ironic
yeah,i was thinking he was gonna say like : buying timed exclusivity,charging more for online for that exclusive game,sell the studio after the game releases etc. He's acting a bit mature recently...
I hate to say this.... I have been barking how awesome the PS3 has been all these years... I had all of the best PS3 exclusives and loved them... My PS3 got the yellow rings and sony gave me the run around.. So I jumped back to the 360 250gig with kinect... I AM AMAZED!!! I have been having a blast with Reach, Wake, BF2, GOW 2,,... I have not played anything on PS3 like reach online... Jumping on ghosts, banshees, with no slow down... I am a changed man!!! Plus, the kinect with my niece and nephews over have been awesome!!! Love my xbox!
wot a load of bollocks, listen you leprichaun, your a xbox fanboy your comment is an attempt of reverse psychology.
Or maybe he enjoys the 360? Jesus, people here are so defensive. I have a 360 and recently just bought a PS3 for the exclusives. I still find myself coming back to play the 360 much more than the PS3. I still do prefer the 360 over the PS3. I think the dashboard is much more user friendly on the 360, the controllers is better and more comfortable on the 360 and the online experience is much more interactive on the 360. That doesn't mean I don't love my PS3 as well, but I do think the 360 is better FOR ME this generation. If you want to try the fanboy card, then check my PSN User name Live: CDxJeffGUNZ PSN: JeffGUNZ Believe it or not, some people really do like and prefer the xbox. It's not the end of the world.
I recently got live for my 360 and I havent been on my PS3 for ages cause of it-something about party chat and having a decent amount of friends to communicate with while I play my games-I really wish my ps3 had that.
I had a similar experience, but the exact opposite. I was a huge microsoft fan and loved all of their products. Halo was so amazing, but after my 6th rrod, I just gave up. I couldn't stand losing another console, so I bought a ps3, and have never looked back. The exclusives drew me in more than the 360's. They were just of higher quality. No more overly generic character(yes Marcus Feenix, I am looking at you)in my games. I am now a proud sony fan..... see what I did there? Seriously, take your sad fake story and shove it.
My story is of one who sold his 360 for a PS3 I love consoles but when the PS3 came out i couldn't afford it so i got a 360 instead. I enjoyed the 360 for many years but i never liked paying for live cause i always had problems with it. Matchmaking takes forever, lots of lag and voice chat never worked properly. I felt terrible for paying for a service that never worked properly (at least in my house). At the end of 2010 i decided to sell my 360 and all the games a had for it to obtain a PS3 Slim move bundle and an initial collection of 10 games. One thing i noticed with PSN was that i didnt have any problems with it. My games are lag free, matchmaking is quick and i didnt have any problems with voice chat. Plus playing online for free was a huge plus for me since i already pay 76 euros for a crappy 3MB internet connection (which i will be upgrading soon to 30MB). I miss the triggers of the 360 controller but the PS3 controller feels way more comfortable in my hands than the 360 one. Plus i am in love with great PS3 exclusives such as Uncharted, Killzone. God of War, Demon Souls, Ratchet and Clank and Infamous. I was always a playstation fan at heart and i was just using the 360 to tide me over until the price dropped. It was a good experience owning a 360 (or rather 2 of them) but i moved on to a console brand that i liked more. I had a wii as well but the novelty died off quickly
The 360 is a great console. I'm glad you enjoy it. Don't let the brainless fanatics on this site make you feel bad about owning it. I own all the consoles and I am VERY happy I do. I would hate to be a slimy, pathetic troll like most of the PS3 fanboys on this site.
@ Bigpappy I agree he answered the question very well. I don't know what more you could want from an Exclusive or a good video game series period. All those disagrees you got seem bogus.
I agreed with him, right up until he mentioned Fable. :p
Why did Grenturd have to open his mouth? look what he created lol. this post is full of Microsoft jokes lol.
Wow, nothing like a Microsoft or Xbox360 article to bring out all the trolls on N4G. Even though they are all admitted PS3 fanboys they somehow can't resist spending most their time trolling in 360 articles. I have played plenty of great exclusives on all my consoles and that's the truth.
I agree, except how does Forza have an epic storyline?
The secret to a great exclusive is...having a studio to create one!
that was a low blow but an awesome 1 at that lol
ACTUALLY The secret to a great exclusive is..... ....... dont make it yourself .. BY MICROSOFT
First party =/= AAA.
@SoleWiz: Flawless Victory!
i'd prefer it to have come from some other exec. i simply can't respect this guy regardless of who he works for
...having them? Supporting your dev studios that make them? Not firing said studios when you’re short on studios as it is? Not forcing them to make kinect games? It goes on, really...
"Stephen McGill has claimed that 2011 will be a stellar year for exclusive Xbox titles - but that it will "ultimately be all about Kinect"." :O
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!....wait.... I expected this, nvm. Still, it’s too bad they stopped caring about their fanbase halfway through the 360’s lifespan... sigh...
E3 this year should be interesting. I swear if it's all Kinect centric and there aren't good, 360 exclusive (not available on PC also) games for the core gamer that actually interets me then I think I might be done with the console. As it stands the only 100% certain game I have planned to buy for my 360 is Gears 3 which I will play regardless, but if there's not much else then I'd prefer to trade the thing in for a couple of PS3 games or something that I'll actually get some use out of.
Every 5 years MS drops it original fanbase re: Xbox 1
I think owning dedicated first party game studios produces great quality.
with all the exclusives MS is pushing out LOL
MS spent 100's of millions on advertisement and their products tend to sell better i give them that. if i have to take a guess its more likely MS have spent over 1billion on advertisement since launch of xbox360. that halo 3 launch remember that. now 500million on natal buy your self some first party studios give them 2-3 years to make new IPs and with new xbox launch those titles MM came to MS for LBP said no heavy rain director came to MS NO why no to creativity? I understand new IPs mean risk but heck if you can spend a billion on advertisement and loose over a billion on RROD can't you take a 40million risk since 20million a year dev cost for 2-3 years? BEFORE YOU CLICK DISAGREE THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM SAYING
LPB and HeavyRain were kind of a big risks though. LPB depends almost entirely on the community. The original LPB was a very risky game in that sense since it could have easily fallen flat on it's face had the community not supported it. QuanticDream's Fahrenheit was a good 'game' but it was a bit lacking in sales. It kinda made you wonder why HeavyRain would be any different. AlanWake was similar (perhaps more action-y), and didn't do too well. Who knows how well HeavyRain would've managed? One could argue that Kinect itself was a creative risk. They also have an indie marketplace or something (then again, so does PSN). There's some creativity there. (I'm hoping Limbo comes on the PC.) Though it is puzzling why they don't seem to focus more on their current audience as opposed to trying to net the casual market. Meh. It's like they suffer from some self-esteem issue and keep trying to advertise more to get more people to buy their console. Could just be a way to market XBL, who knows. Good to see an actual intelligent post 'round here though... better than the usual attempt-at-being-witty that plagues the comments.
quite simple they think that hardcore market has given them enough and won't grow so they have to go after casual and look to do wii sale numbers. in a few months when sony will release their numbers for ps3's sold it will be more than xbox360 even though every article was about how xbox360 is outselling ps3 in the states what people just don't understand WW SONY IS A BRAND NAME. PlayStation IS A BRAND THAT CAN BE TRUSTED AND THAT'S WHERE SONY HAS THE EDGE. MS needs to buy some inde studios and give them the freedom to do new Ips. alan wake did bad because after a game takes 5-6 years of dev time and when it does come out its great but no advertisement any we will see if MS shows anything at GDC or as usual we will see something at E3
I agree.. i have been backing ms this whole gen, i didnt like how arrogant sony was. i do have all 3 consoles though and realize what direction sony and micro are taking and i just find my self siding with the ps3. i just dont see micro showing any kind of interest in first party and sony is now really starting to show us that, yea sony owns more first party studios than micro and nin. combined. i was really hoping that kinect would provide a great kinect&controller hybrid game. just simple things like lob a grenade, open a door, move objects. i can think of many great things they can do with a resident evil game but so far its kinectalloons? i hope that was a joke and missed the news... the 360 started hard but looks like it will finish soft. on the bright side its early in the year and micro may surprise me, hopefully. if not i will still have huge amount of games to play including goty contender gears 3 and uc3
I agree with you. If Microsoft took some that Kinect Advertisement money, And, actually bought first party studios to make games, well.. Down the road, Microsoft would have even MORE money to advertise. Rake in some more money.. buy another studio, to increase profit. Which would then allow Microsoft spend more advertisement money. Besides, they'd also have more studios to advertise for. Not to mention, more studios to split Kinect and Hardcore games. Which would definitely rake in more money than what they are doing. Microsoft is supposed to be really good in business. But, sometimes they jus seem so fucking stupid..
That's why I put Sony before MS. Apart from HW quality and game quality. They take risks. If not so, we wouldn't have LBP and HR. I can live without the 100th generic FPS. XBLA is the only place creativity exists.
More words instead of action from MS. As usual. Glad Sony is providing plenty of action these days.