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Valve: 'We're not schizophrenic'

CVG: Valve has defended its unpredictable roster of releases - claiming that its line-up is, in fact, not quite as random as it often seems.

The studio has become notorious in recent years for surprising fans with irregular releases following Half-Life 2's arrival in 2004

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Big_Dom4859d ago (Edited 4859d ago )

Fair enough, Valve. But, here's the big question: where the fuck is Episode 3? Your stance on episodic content has been a farce from the very beginning. Half Life 2 was 6 years ago. You could have had Half Life 3 out by now and been half way working towards part 4 if it were required.

Eamon4859d ago

To be fair, Half-Life 1 came out in 1998. And there were no more HL games until Half-Life 2 which came out in 2004.

That's 6 years of nothing. But over 6 years after HL2 came out, we've had 2 episodes and Portal.

Granted, they should have released episode 3 by now but Half-Life 3 still has some time.

ct034859d ago

Please do not defend the lack of episode 3.

Episode 2 ended on a cliffhanger, and after THREE YEARS we haven't seen a single piece of artwork for episode 3. Work on episode 3 may not even have begun yet.

Eamon4859d ago

lol, I dunno what's the point of those vids but anyway you did prove me wrong with those expansions. I was only aware of Opposing Force and Counter-Strike (although CS isn't a single player episode. It's a multiplayer expansion of the HL engine.)

Croash4859d ago (Edited 4859d ago )

@ Eamon, you weren't proven wrong that much.

Opposing Force and Blue Shift were indeed Half-Life 1 expansions but they were made by Gearbox Software, not by Valve.
So it really took them 6 years to release the 2nd Half-Life game.

But anyway, it wasn't their fault, they had to delay it because of the leak.

What is wrong with the way they're handling things is that they haven't said anything about Episode 3/Half-Life 3.
They should start talking about it after Portal 2's release.

If it is indeed Half-Life 3 ( = new engine), then I'd understand why it would have taken them more than 6 years. But if the next Half-Life game is supposed to be Episode 3, then I don't see how they released the 2 previous episodes so fast and haven't even mentioned the third one yet.

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rugis4859d ago

Okay, Valve may take ridiculous amounts of time to create games (Valve time), but they at least release a product of quality that virtually no other game developer has. Maybe if you worked there, you might understand. I don't work their either, so I don't either. We don't know how they work, but demanding games isn't going to help, and I would rather wait for an amazing product than get some shit product that is rushed because of fans wanting a sequel sooner than later.

Big_Dom4859d ago (Edited 4859d ago )

You are totally missing the point. Newell stated and boasted about Steam and how it was the best way forward for the industry by releasing episodic content, because according to his vision, it delivered the next installments of games far quicker rather than to have to go off and write a new engine from scratch and then develop a game. He bemoaned the time that took and boasted that episodic content was a way to get the latest chapter of a story in a game faster than a newly developed game. Well, he didn't half put his foot in it by gloating about that bold assumption back then. Looks like it backfired and he, and Valve, are looking like complete tits over it now that they FAILED. Fact is, Newell was talking bollocks. You don't produce episodes as short as 1&2 were, then cut the fans off and leave them waiting almost 4 years for the last chapter. What is the point in that? It's ridiculous business strategy. Tech has moved on so much in PC terms that a new engine could have been developed for Half Life 3. Source is ridiculously old now, no matter how pretty they get it to look. Imagine Source 2 with HL 3. Yeah, that's all we can do - imagine.

rumplstilts4859d ago

"Okay, Valve may take ridiculous amounts of time to create games (Valve time), but they at least release a product of quality that virtually no other game developer has"

Wrong. See Blizzard.

rugis4859d ago

@Big_Dom No, I'm not missing the point. So wait, you would rather go the the store to have to buy each episode? He boasted that you could download the game you know, somewhat instantly. He never said that the game would be developed faster. You mention two different things and play them off as the same. Oh, and they ARE working on other games.

smurfee4858d ago

Agreed. No developer is perfect, Valve is no exception. Valve deserves some credit for not making blatant cashcow sequels except for that one mistake L4D2. I wish they'd use the money from selling games on Steam to invest it in the chronicles of Freeman.

Big_Dom4858d ago (Edited 4858d ago )

Oh, right, I see. So Mr Newell was just being considerate and taking our convenience as the main reason to invent Steam and bleat about his enthusiasm for episodic content to revolutionise the industry then? What a nice guy. Don't be so niave. What does it matter to devs how and where consumers pick up there product so long as they do. Not everyone on the planet has an internet connection,and most people will prefere a physical medium to keep, so that blows that excuse clean out of the water. All devs care about is getting the money one way or the other. Yes. Once again, you missed the point.

rugis4858d ago

@Big_Dom So you can't read? You make three different points, and then say I'm missing the point when I respond to one, and create another. Honestly, does your stupidity know no bounds? Physical products get lost or broken. With Steam, which seems to be staying, things aren't broken, it is easy to get your account back, and games are cheap. Also, you criticize Valve for not releasing games when YOU want them, but what about Blizzard? Starcraft has had just as large as a gap as Half-Life games, if not larger, and same with Diablo. Why are you chastising them? You seem to like to target on company, and you are rather ignorant as well. Great job there bud.

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toaster4859d ago

Valve Time is a bitch. Good thing they support their games like no other developer. I'm happy with the amount of support Valve gives TF2, CS:S, and every other one of it's games. Half Life 2 gets updated about every other week, pretty good for a 6 year old game.

Doesn't mean I don't want HL3!!!! Ep. 3 at least... please?

AwesomeJizz4859d ago

I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO EPISODE 3, MAYBE GABE ATE IT FOR BREAKFAST!!!
SERIOUSLY THOUGH IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE EPISODE 2 RELEASED.. SHOULD I START CALLING IT "HALF LIFE 2 EPISODE 3 FOREVER"?

likedamaster4859d ago

YEAH, I HEAR YA. I AGREE, BUT... WHAT'S UP WITH ALL CAPS?!!

JohnnyHalo4859d ago

Valve: "We're not schizophrenic"

The first sign of schizophrenia is denial.

RememberThe3574859d ago

But what if your actually not schizophrenic? Are you supposed to admit it?

ct034859d ago

What do you mean? I'm certainly not schizophrenic.

Deleting4859d ago

I thought I would of seen a lot more fat jokes on here......Strange

solar4859d ago

you dont anymore since the announcement of the PS3 version of Portal 2 being the best "console version". strange isnt it?

Xfanboy4859d ago

PC will be the hi def, high frame rate version with mods!!
ps3 better be getting something crazy to beat that!!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

hassi944859d ago

While I half agree Xfanboy, he did quote 'console version'.

smurfee4858d ago

Each time you make a fat joke, you know who delays Episode 3 by another 6 months. True story. We're so wishful we've stopped the fat jokes.

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Essential Video Games Everyone Needs To Play At Least Once

Video games are no longer just a simple past time. Today's games are evolving into true works of art. Offering intriguing narratives, cinematic setpieces, and profound messages, games can entertain us for hundreds of hours.

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Chard13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I never got around to mass effect - I’m skeptical that it would hold up if I were to try it now

Furesis12h ago

I would say it does. The combat is a bit shit for todays standards but everything else is great.

anast11h ago

It's worth a play through today.

gold_drake4h ago

the first one is abit the odd one out but after u finished it, believe it it gets tremendously better and better

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All the Essential Video Games Everyone Needs To Play At Least Once

Given the medium's wild diversity, this primer of the essential video games everyone should try is a good place to start.

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thorstein43d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218343d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga43d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno43d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name43d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno43d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno42d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure42d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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All The Major 2024 Game Anniversaries Worth Celebrating

The 2024 Game Anniversaries include some major titles including Half-Life 2, Uncharted 2, and Minecraft.

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