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Nier will become a saga

With its European launch in last April, Nier became a little surprise in the market, but the plans are to make it a saga.

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christheredhead4860d ago

i actually liked neir a lot. it combined elements from a bunch of different games but it was still unique and interesting in its own way. a saga would be pretty sweet if they could pull it off.

MicroSony4860d ago

Dont forget the soundtrack, it was epic. One of my best this year.

christheredhead4860d ago

thats true. the soundtrack was absolutely amazing.

Kalowest4860d ago

Nier is awesome( for the $15 i spent).

Cheeseknight284860d ago

I can't believe it's actually getting a sequel. I loved Nier and beat it faster than I beat most games (and I did it 4 times to boot!), I cannot fathom why critics hated on it so much. Thanks to RPGfan for giving it scores it deserved.

If Nier can get a sequel there is hope for just about any franchise.

Spenok4860d ago

Except for the games that deserve them so such as Jade Empire, Chrono Trigger (a real sequal), Beyond Good and Evil, etc etc.

Now dont get me wrong here, i loved Nier and am excited for a sequal. I was just mentioning the last part of your comment.

midgard2274860d ago

where is that legend of dragoon sequel??? hellooooo?

Cheeseknight284860d ago

@1.3.1

True enough, but I happen to LOVE Chrono Cross. I have difficulty placing Trigger higher than it in terms of preference, they are very, very close in my eyes. If you meant a real sequel meaning a sequel that actually follows it, there are more than enough nods to Trigger present in the game.

As for BG&E, they are re-releasing it over Arcade next year in HD. If it goes well we may see a sequel.

Calm Down Sunshine4860d ago

I believe it was slammed by critics because it didn't bring anything new to the table, it simply mixed and matched portions of other games and failed to establish it's own identity/gameplay style.

Games have moved on nowadays, pink balls are no longer the greatest threat to gamers, it's a shame Nier hadn't seemed to grasp this.

But then again, I'm not a massive fan of this kind of RPG. So perhaps I missed something.

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TheDivine4860d ago

Me too. Loved it, well still playing. Art and atmoshere reminds me of an ico game. Great story and art/world but the combat was kinda boring. Great though. I heard cavia went belly up after this game. They also helped with blue dragon i think along with artoon. They were scheduled to make the third mistwalker game cry on but it got canned. Damn shame, wouldve been epic. Cant believe ms canned it thinking an arpgs wouldnt sell well. Looked like the last guardian/majin but as a rpg. Guess they gave up on japan thus giving up on rpgs. Oh well the last story will be loved on my wii but it shouldve been lost odyssey 2. Best jrpg ever.

Cenobia4860d ago

In my opinion the game was just okay. It was better than I had expected, but playing it wasn't actually that fun.

The most annoying things were fishing, which was completely broken (but luckily only required once) and the text missions. I fell asleep reading those stupid lines of text. The short story during the replay of the game was at least interesting, but it would have been a whole lot better if I got to play as the character that it was about rather than replay the same person doing the same things. And a cutscene is always more interesting, but I realize they must have had severe budget restraints.

I liked that they added a bit more to cutscenes during the second play through, but I just couldn't keep playing because the actual playing of the game just wasn't very fun. The levels were also not fun to navigate, despite their ICO-inspired architecture.

I was enjoying the story and mythology of the world, but the ending kind of lost me (in an almost typical anime fashion). They don't really explain the big picture, which gets me confused about the characters stories. They explain a lot, but I never felt like I fully understood what had happened and what the ending meant for the future. I assume some of this is explained in more depth during multiple play throughs, but I couldn't get through it.

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Xof4860d ago

Nier was a bit of a cult hit: most of the people who played it, and could get around the hideous character design and atrocious animation... really, really loved the game.

Though I don't know how well it could stand being made into a saga. The story of Nier was wrapped up fairly well, which would mean any further stories would have to take place in the same world, but several decades removed.

Which, actually, is how I prefer my sequels.

Definitely keeping my eyes open for more Nier stuff. Hell, just thinking about it makes me want to play the game some more.

maniacmayhem4860d ago

I agree, the character designs were vomit inducing. but if you stuck with it, it really paid off.

Arup024860d ago

Lets hope the second game will be better than the first.

aPerson4860d ago

If those disagrees are anything to go by, it looks like some people don't want the sequel to be an improvement over the first game. That's odd...

Cheeseknight284860d ago

I feel like they are disagreeing with his comment because he's implying that the original is a poor game.

GuruStarr784860d ago

YES!!

Nice to see a good game get some love..... This was one of my top games this year.

What I really liked about it was the super-fast action - RPG style, with some of the best characters and storytelling.

If you skipped all the bad sidequests, the game still clocked in at over 40 hrs, and had like 3 or 4 endings....

Check this one out if you have not.....I'm thinking about diving back into it again now :)

Lavalamp4860d ago

I'm really really really excited to see the Nier universe become expanded upon. I actually just found out yesterday that Cavia's previous game, Drakengard, had an ending that actually laid the groundwork for Nier's premise. But the thing I'm really concerned with is the studio behind the future titles. Cavia was absorbed and disbanded by AG Interactive and the mastermind behind the game, Taro Yokoo, is going to leave the company. How can Nier still be Nier?

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Remembering the Best JRPGs on the PS3

Get ready to embark on a journey filled with monsters, magic, and overpowered haircuts, because this list features the best JRPGs on the PS3.

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shinoff2183262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

There wasn't that many. Thanks to the west's criticism. It was definitely lacking compared to every other ps system. Dont get me wrong there were a few good ones i know that.

jznrpg262d ago

Nier, Valkyrie Chronciles, Tales games , Ni No Kuni, Resonance of Fate, FF13’s, Ys8 just a few off the top of my head and there were a lot more.

CrimsonWing69262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

Not nearly to the degree of PS1 and PS2.

@shinoff2183 makes a good point that around the PS3/Xbox 360 gen is when the genre wasn’t as prevalent and began to shy away from turn-based. There’s some standouts for sure, but look at the PS1 and PS2 JRPG library and then compare that to the PS3 and PS4’s.

Theres definitely a decline in a selection of titles. Even worse was the quality seemed to take a massive hit as well. I think Lost Odyssey was a huge standout for that gen when you look at production values, then you look at something like Fairy Fencer on the PS3 and it’s kind of depressing.

But by that generation there was a shift from western developed games overtaking Japanese developed games. Back from the NES to PS2 Japanese games were the cream of the crop… I don’t know what happened but like midway into the PS3/360 life-time they became less so.

shinoff2183262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

Compared to the ps1 ps2 and he'll even ps4 ps3 doesn't hold a candle to either imo. It's also when turn based damn near disappeared. Again thanks to the west's criticism

Crimson I'd put money on the west being at fault, guys like Phil phish, and numerous others at that time were attacking jrpg and Japanese games in general pretty hard.

Ni no kuni was probably my fav jrpg back then , and the blue dragon

GameBoyColor262d ago

Tales got kinda lucky here. When they took a chance and finally brought tales of graces f over west it sold like 250k lmao a lot of jrpgs did 500k or below. Disgaea was worse i think. Bamco decided to keep bringing more games over though.

Tapani262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Dark Souls II were the best RPGs on PS3 made by Japanese developers. Everything else just fell short always. Ni No Kuni was a full package, an okayish game as well. Nier and Drakengard III had superb writing, setting and voice acting, however, the performance was a real drag on the gameplay. Traditional RPG-wise I'd actually say 360 had better JRPGs, and think that Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were the best traditional JRPGs of the era. PS3 Valkyria Chronicles was okay, but it is closer to an SRPG.

Ryu Ga Gotoku games were also solid, they were still finding their footing and breaking new ground with new cities and formats.

PS3 was the era that almost made me quit gaming and I started playing on PC because I could not find good performance nor games on the system. PS4 got me back into it, and now PS5 is a mix in and between, I just play my PS4 library on the PS5 and rest on PC, just like during the PS3 era. The only new exclusive Sony JRPG is pretty much FFXVI and it is so streamlined and simplified from the normal RPG experience that I can't fit it into the genre anymore. Dragon Quest XII hopefully remedies all of this, but it is just one game.

These new games will all be on PC (while it does take 2-3 years to wait, and 6-12 months from launch to have them patched + fixed by modders) and they perform better on it. The only point in owning a PS5 is to play games a couple of years earlier, but for a hard-working family man like me, the quality of the experience is more important than playing it as soon as possible. And I can't do modern games at 30fps 720p after playing 120fps at 4K. For older games, that's okay.

PSX and PS2 though, those were the days...Still have a massive collections of classic RPGs in CD and DVD format and a phat PS3 to play them!

FinalFantasyFanatic262d ago

It's kinda like that, the PS3 generation was a bad time for JRPGs, especially with the Japanese feeling the need to westernize their games, shooters dominating that gen, the racism from western game journalists (it was bad, between G4, Phill Fish, and a slew of others), and the higher development costs...

It really made me miss the PS1/PS2 days of JRPGs, even the quality of half of those games during the 7th gen weren't as good. The 360 tried, but Microsoft's consoles weren't popular in Japan and no body in the West bought a Xbox for JRPGs (despite Xbox having Vesperia, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey).

on_line_forever262d ago

" It's kinda like that, the PS3 generation was a bad time for JRPGs, especially with the Japanese feeling the need to westernize their games "

This is when everything fall down and games looks not fun to play anymore except for few games like demon and dark souls for example

-Foxtrot262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

Nah. It's a bad trilogy of games

The only reason XIII-2 stands out is because XIII was so bad

When the bar is so low, anything after feels better.

goldwyncq262d ago

The monster catching mechanic was nice.

Eonjay262d ago

Don't understand the hate for it at all. Seems forced.

shinoff2183262d ago

Watching the credits roll on ff16 now it is good but , I'd really like to re try ff13 least it's turn based and would fill that gap for me.

FinalFantasyFanatic262d ago

They got better after the first one in the trilogy, not outstanding game though.

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CS7262d ago

Honestly, I played FFXIII a few years after release and maybe because it was after the hype cycle and I knew the flaws of the game, it actually became my favorite FF after VII.

I took off the mini map and never used auto battle and the stuff that mattered to me in an FF was just so well done.

The art and graphics were insane at the time
The music is still special
The story still lingers in memory more than a decade later
The RPG systems were decent

I never really got the hate for it, still have a soft spot for that game inside me.

goldwyncq262d ago

Still better than XV and XVI.

Yui_Suzumiya262d ago

Drakengard 3 goes for a small fortune nowadays

Knightofelemia262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

Only gripe I have with Ar Tonelico 3 is that Saki is annoying as hell whether English or in Japanese. Then Saki's English voice actor became Ionasal on Ar Nosurge she was a little annoying but not as bad. Johnny Young Bosch voicing Tatsumi I thought he did a great job. And Akiko Shikata with her vocals and the music from the games just went hand and hand.

DarkZane262d ago

I wish Ar No Surge and Ar Tonelico 3 would be remastered on PS4/PS5.

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How Nier Connects to the Drakengard Series

Nier and Drakengard are two series that couldn't be more different in their setting and stories, but somehow they are still linked.

vTuro24436d ago

The world needs a Drakengard 1 and 3 remake.

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'NieR': Why the Gameplay Does Not Need to Be Great

Whether intended or not, NieR makes a strong case that good gameplay is not everything, especially if a game has larger goals in mind.

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gold_drake1081d ago

i mean ... it depends right. when i think about drakengard 1s combat .. damn. its god awful. the game is great but its very charring to get through because of it.

good combat helps a game tremendously

Lighter91080d ago

The gameplay doesn't need to be great?! Trying to justify a lot of jrpgs.

Elda1080d ago

I just finished it a few days ago.