At what point is it okay to base a military first-person shooter on a historical conflict, and who gets to decide when that is?
Well, if they make games bout the wars in Afghanistan then the answer is no
Lol its fun when journalists try to get to serious over games... Get over it, there are many other topics to get serious...
The answer should be no. Vietcong had an older engine but the mission structure in that game along with it's add on Fist Alpha (and not the abortion console version) were really great games in their day. There was so much research that went into those titles. And Hornster was one of the funniest angry game characters ever.
Battlefield Vietnam didn't seem to have much controversy.
My friends in Afganistan and Iraq were buying armor for Humvees out of their own pockets because they were so pathetically underfunded and people think being sensitive about a video game about the Vietnam war is what's important right now?
I remember reading an article about how some tard-of-an-author couldn't play Metal of Honor because he absolutely loathed playing as the Taliban... WTF! How about the Nazis? They killed millions upon millions of people. Their atrocities are still in the memories of people living today and people don't bat an eye at playing as a Nazi in multiplayer. In BFBC2, I'll be killing Vietcong like I previously killed the Nazis and Taliban (and vice versa in multiplayer) and I'll be loving every minute of it. And by this time next year, I hope I'll be killing North Koreans!
vietnam war was a long time ago a real long time ago
It was actually quite recent; ended in 1975. There are plenty of movies made that are based on the Vietnam war, why should it be any different for games? The game places you on both sides of the war and is not distasteful in any way. Dice have attempted to keep it as accurate as they can, and if anything it shows the younger generation (whom are unaware of the atrocities of this war) how horrific it was. It can be used as valuable lesson in history and perhaps spark an interest in the younger generation.
loved your response.
You bring up a great point thats created a lot of controversy right now. Because few "mainstream" people view video games as art, Real world events are seen as distasteful while movies about the same subject matters are praised for their subject material and drama. Its just one of those things thats going to take time for people to get used to. I feel that as long as your respectful to the subject material, you should be allowed to make whatever the hell you want, no matter when it happened.
Tensions about the Vietnam War are still touchy. Anyone remember the 2004 election? Game developers have the right to publish games based on wars, but I think it's still odd to play a video game and be an active participate as compared to watching Apocalypse Now or another war movie as a passive viewer.
People need to get over shit, it's just a game.
this game is ONLINE MADNESS!!
Are past conflicts the only fuel driving current games....? Are devs so drained of inspiration as to rehash past conflicts in video game form...? As above(hellsvacancy) said.I will add this; If we can accept and play a current failure surely we can also accept and play a past one.It isn't too soon but rather too late.
Dude...its a game. And i doubt its due to lack of creativity that BC2 Vietnam came out, but because DICE thought it would be cool to implement a game in Vietnam since the game dynamics (scopes, vehicles, environment) is so different from Bad company 2. And it was a good idea because i'm REALLY enjoying the game. So take your serious attitude and use it in the political forums
On one hand you're right, on the other hand, you're being ignorant.
^ nothing serious or forum worthy in a question Dude...it's an opinion.
I just started playing BC2 again and i'm hooked. I will look into this expansion pack shortly. I wonder if i can get it for free with my VIP code or whatever. BTW: Not this debate again. [email protected] some journalists
No, it's not free it's $15 & it's awesome! it really is :) OT: Tragedy + Time = Comedy. so, u decide
Why doesn't anyone make a Korean War game?
it never happened
because North Korea will blow you the fuck up when they find out..
Or a civil war game?
Call of Juarez covers aspects of the civil war. I think. Not entirely sure as I'm not American and we never covered that part of history in school, but I think Call of Juarez started with the protagonists as soldiers in the civil war.
How dumb is this article? Wtf do you mean too soon? There are war shooters set in todays wars, Afghanistan and Iraq, what makes Nam so special apart from the U.S losing.
There is a difference between depicting vietnam versus current conflict. The difference is in the DRAFT. Imagine being FORCED to go kill people across the world for reasons that seem to be intangible. No wonder there was so many worst-case-scenario PTSD vets. Since its volunteer now, people know what they are getting into, and many of the soldiers and officers aren't exactly morally adept, shall we say. The ones that are usually leave. I don't think its too soon, but I would definitely understand if a vietnam vet got extremely offended by the games. PTSD is serious shit...You really don't know how scary it is until you get to know someone who is affected by it. I have, and I could hear the terror and paranoia in his voice. I think people should have fun playing black ops and BF nam but for the love of god, HAVE SOME RESPECT. It is "just a game" while simultaneously being more than "just a game"
Vietnam sucks, its boring.
@Garnett Can you elaborate on that, please? I'm just interested in why you think it "sucks" and how "it's boring".
I sincerely doubt any sort of intelligent response incoming. Elaborating sucks,its boring.
When a game like Black Op's makes over 1 Billion dollars, the answer is clearly NO!
This article is stupid
If movies can have it, so can games.
If they made a movie 1 year after 9/11 then no PLEASE make a vietnam era game let the people that did battlefield bad company 2 produce it with lots of dark swampy jungles,tunnels,snake infested tree areas,villages,dirty crumbling citys with cool greaser music...
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