NPD's blackout continues as Kinect helps revive the industry from its 8-month slump and makes this the best November in videogame history. Full review and exhaustive analysis from John Lucas.
lol funny article usa= world yeah .... IF you didn't know EUROPE PLUSS ASIA> BIGGER THAN USA, and who is outselling who? ouch ps3 is outselling 360 and wii. spinn it all you want, but ps3 is doing just fine.
This really is irrelevant to the news article, though. If people want to see numbers that aren't just US, then create and post them. Otherwise, the best figures we have to work with are NPD.
Playstation has always been a niece market product until it becomes mass market price at $199. I don't think Sony are too bothered as long as it's doing predicted world wide sales. Meanwhile MS are really happy that it is doing the numbers it is. No problem?!
"Sony’s PlayStation 3 got lost in the crowd with (hmm?) 530,000 underground movements sold in Movember. In Blue October, PS Tri sold 250,000 mood ringed Move things showing merely double its output. Yow. What happened to last year’s console phoenix? Unlike the 360’s remodel, last year’s PS3 remodel doesn’t show any lasting power. Sure it’s doing better than it was in its previous existence (before the redesign) but last November’s total was 710,400. This is well below that and that’s not good when your home console competitors are improving over last year’s results. Sony cannot rely on the PS3’s worldwide numbers overcoming the 360. America is still the biggest money market in the world and as long as the 360 triumphs in America, the PS3 will always be compromised. They had ‘em on the ropes before the 360 transformed but now the 360 is taking it to the Wii. Momentum is crucial in this extra-innings game and Sony needs a new strategy to realize that 10-year plan. Perhaps the 360/Kinect will run into a wall next year and the PS3/Move can capitalize in the long term. Could we have a new tortoise and hare scenario? In the meantime, even with the system-defining Gran Turismo 5 the PS3 plays the underdog role once again. Hopefully, slow and steady really will win the race." so jus for laughs why not compare the move launch vs kinects... numbers arnt that far off. Sure it was a solid launch for kinect but lets see if it has legs. IMO if they deliver on the games they have a chance.
Well, reading all the Fanboy comments from ALL SIDES, I only have one thing to say: WHERE IS THE OPEN ZONE?!?!?!
Lying article lies, it isn't even NPD data. It is all analyst stuff and numbers are not from NPD.
@ rroded america is actually not sony's biggest money market. if anything the better it does in america the more money sony loses. the american dollar is so weak that after the sale of sony japanese products in america the conversion rate from the dollar to the yen comes to a loss. i wouldnt be surprised if SCEJ has put america on the back burner until the economy rebounds.
this thread will become a pro ps3 circle jerk soon and you wont have to feel alone in your defense of the ps3.
i only have one question: do you label all defending ps3 sony fanboys ? I have both consoles, and play on both. but it dosen't take a genius to see that ps3 is killing the 360 everywhere except usa. I Wwouldn't be worried by the sales of us, 500k isn't little and the sales in japan almost evens it out and europe gets ps3 above 360. i am just on the facts here, but if you have any proof that says otherwise, be my guest. but i want a source that is reliable.
we soldiers of sony stick together and will defend the ps3 'til the bitter end. _______________ Sony 'til I die
I'm not a genius. So could you tell me WHY the 360 is beating the PS3 in the USA?
Geez, why must everyone always bring up the World Wide Sales thing when NPD figures come up. YES, we know that NPD is just North American numbers......but for us North American Gamers, that is what is relevant to us. But It's GREAT that all our industry is doing well with November 2010 being the highest selling month....EVER!! Nintendo DS – 1,500,000* Microsoft XBox 360 – 1,370,000** Nintendo Wii – 1,270,000* Sony PlayStation 3 – 530,000† Sony PlayStation Portable – 288,000‡ Sony PlayStation 2 – 88,000‡
As long as division doesn't apply to world. 360 is by far the best selling console in the US at this time. That doesn't mean the world. You have to take ALL countries into account when you're computing total sales. I'm sure Sony is concerned about their sales in North America, just as Microsoft is concerned about their sales everywhere else, except maybe the UK. And don't forget, the Wii used to be the leader in North American sales. The 360 received a giant boost this year what with the redesign, but now imagine if software sales explode for the PS3 next year. Hardware sales will probably follow, and we will see a lot closer race between the three next year.
both my ps3 and 360 both are successful consoles this gen, and I try not to get caught up in the daily bs the sales articles generate on the comment sections here. also for clarification I never labeled anyone a fanboy, and I dont see how sony needs to be defended from anyone or anything. this conversation has been going on for years and there is no end in site. so might as well comment on the comments, since the news on this subject hasnt changed. I will break open the santana champ and poor you the the first glass, when sony overtakes the 360 in total worldwide sales. I dont count folks who had to buy another 360 due to rrod or the year headstart because I'm a dick.
I am sorry both sides of this console war is retarded but seriously you 360 fanboys really are the most insecure of the bunch. All you talk about is sales NPD this NPD that. Do we really need an article bashing the Ps3 every month when Npd numbers release? It's only been the last month or so the 360 has been pumping numbers like this, which coincides with the release of Kinect. All you people hollering about sales but fail to realize this isn't a good thing. It means focus will be shifted to casual Kinect ware since it is the single biggest reason 360 is selling so well! If you are a core gamer this is NOT a good thing! Also I am sure if every month when Japan numbers release and we have an article bashing the 360 on N4g you guys would be up in arms also so lets stop the sales nonsense. Both consoles are doing well and both are getting their ass handed to them by Nintendo. Play games not sales.
If somebody had said, "PS3 sux, because of poor sales", than it would be completely logical for someone to state, "USA is not the world". But to be first comment and bring that crap, when nobody has said anything prior, is just pure a$$ness and butt-hurtedness, not to mention fanboyism at its most obnoxious. This article is not about the world and even if PS3 doesn't perform in America, that doesn't mean it sux, if it outperforms the 360 worldwide. But lets stick with the current topic, which is America.
lol funny fanboys Kinect = fail yeah...
No way!!! You're telling me that an article about NPD numbers isn't talking about world numbers?? How is that possible? That totally means that all this time NPD numbers are not valid because it doesn't include the rest of the world. Seriously.. are you stupid? Why the hell do you complain about an article about NPD numbers and how it doesn't equal the world? Its about NPD numbers!
Looks like belal is the one trying to do the spin here. Turning this into a World wide article, instead of the NPD one that it is. It's to be expected though. SDF in full force these days after GT 5 and the recent NPD numbers. Great numbers for the 360, and I'm glad to see it beating the Wii. I hope it beats it here for the year finally. Will be good to see a new champ here in the states.
DK, that was the worst comparison i have ever read in my life lol. 360 wins in US your in a US article i dont see what is so hard to understand?
Who cares? Sales do not equal quality.... not in the US, or world wide, so I've been told. Most users know the NDP is the US, not the world, so why brother bring up the US=World thing? The US accounts for only 46% of the worlds gaming market....
Only? That's a big only though.
Yeah, I said it with a twinge of sarcasm..... I forgot the /s. My bad.
@belal, Thanks for the smile you insecure trash talking fanboy. The rest of the world does not only prefer the PS3 hence the 360 outselling it worldwide when you include the USA.Don't selectively remove USA from the world figures to make it seem as though 360 is not selling. You contradict your self by saying we think USA equals the world and then turning around and saying Europe and Asia equal the world. BY now you would think the bitterness of worn off but it's easy to see your just angry SOny will never catch MS. :P
You do know Ps3 has still outsold the 360 WW this year?The reasons for 360 domination of the US come largely down to 4 things. 1.It came out as the first next gen console. 2.The US do like to buy home grown products.This has lessened but still a factor.It's the most insular developed country. 3.Build quality and in fact quality in general are not prioritised in US. 4.The main reason is price.The US is the most price sensitive place and 360 has always been cheap. There are,of course exceptions to this but they tend to be higher end products.Consoles have always been cheap and cheaply made. Maybe if the PS3 had Apple written on it then it would be different.Apple are one of the exceptions. The Kinect success is a very US thing too with sales in EU/JP below Move and that hasn't set the Eu/JP alight. You can walk in and buy Kinect anywhere in the UK and on any online store(well you could when I checked about 5 days ago).
@ Stickers You have no clue in waht your talking about, what a wasted post.
@strickers, I will not even waste my time trying to convince or reason with people like you. It is what it is so grow up and deal with it.
Good for you, sport, you know geography!
Thank you my son.
BELAL wants to take teh "NASIM" troll award of the year on ps3 fanboys behalf.
WTF, check my comment history, i am not a fanboy, but you are trying to hard to make me look like a fanboy. only fanboy here is the ones ignoring the world and only focusing on usa.
belal, you do understand that this is an NPD article don't you? So shouldn't the posts talk about the article?
time to play numbers people. numbers are better then games
"Kinect helps revive the industry from its 8-month slump and makes this the best November in videogame history."...nice microsoft...all the people who said that kinect will fail: OWNED!. oh boy reality check: US is the second biggest market in the industry now that you all want to compare it with a full continent but in market share who is bigger??..United States, thank you very much. now back to wonderland (N4G) and let the spin continue...
I hope you legitimately use Kinect cuz its ruining my 360 hardcore titles.
Seems like we still have people fighting for the title of dumbest comment of the year. 187? Man don't murderdeathkill your self your in the running dog.
All I know is the ps3 has exclusives january (lbp),february (neptune,yakuza), march(ar tonelico III),.....and basically every single month till the end of the year. Thats all that matters bubbles please
Keep waiting and hyping for your 3 exclusvies a year for overpriced console whereas you conveniently neglect to mention 100s of multiplat coming out also next year which will be better and will dominate sales wise on 360.
Yeah keep repeating all those ps3 exclusives and maybe it will make you and your fellow ps3 fanboys sleep better tonight. Edit: What would be more impressive is if those ps3 exclusives everyone keeps talking about actually sold good numbers.
@ sak500- what hundeds of multiplats are you talking about? did you conviniently leave them out? xstation79- if you are more impressed by sales than quality then you must be a JUSTIN BEIBER's biggest fan. IMO the quality of games is what makes a good game- PS3 has the best quality exclusives. yes many developers do a garbage job at porting and usually those games are not worth a crap anyways. But the ones that count are either just about the same or better... Mass Effect2 will be the definitive console version on the PS3.
Is Kinect still a faliure?! Shovelware?! I'm loving all the hacks I'm seeing on tech websites people are doing with Kinect. Sony game lineup is strong for 2011. I hope MS have some confirmed titles besides Gears 3 & Forza 4.
Dance Central titles. Im just kidding im very critical of kinect because its ruining my xbox library WITH wii titles
The Kinect launch titles are just starters. I've tried the Dance Central demo and it's no joke. If your ass is overweight, Dance Central will help you shed some pounds. Kincect titles will get better as time goes on. There are hundreds of people know with these tech hacks will probably making games for Kinect one day. Trust, the games will be better in the future.
Man the 360 head start doesnt fly anymore. Because the ps3 has had way more price cuts in desperation to catch the 360 and it still hasnt caught up. The xbox is even overpriced now but it still hasnt cut prices to its normal lvl.
Wow,you are really not very bright. The PS3 is the 3rd fastest selling console of all time below Wii and PS2. The PS3 has been more expensive than 360 the whole time. The 360 has loads of cheap offers and Live discounts constantly. The PS3 is better than 360.I own both.I bet you can't say the same. Pretty much everything you wrote is factually wrong.
I have both too... and you're right. The PS3 is a better Blu ray player than the 360.
I do have a ps3 psn gravyshooter that shows how much you know. And a kick ass gaming PC shut your mouth son you dont know what your talking about. Your pulling stuff out of your butt.
And this is just more sour grapes from ps3 fanboys that spend more time in 360 thread than their own.And what planet are you from Silly gameAr the main 360 skew was 150 dollars cheaper than the ps3 sony has dropped price again and again. And microsoft hasnt responded to every sony price drop because there was no need to. Sony fans always forget all those price cuts the ps3 has had. Man you guys make me sick.You can rage all you want Silly gameAr Sony has dropped price far more than microsoft thats a fact you can stick that in your fanboy piehole. And you kids on these forums need to start buying your own consoles so you can stop being little fanboys. My parents never bought any of my sytems i got a job and bought my own since the NES. Maybe then you can afford more than one.
of course the 360 couldn't respond to every price cut Sony did... the 360 would cost 50 bucks. the PS3 cost more to make than the 360, therefore it costs more. there are millions of people that barely bought ps2's in the last 5 yrs- these people are future ps3 customers when it reaches the 199 price mark and lower. the PS3 has staying power it is not built on consumer hype- it is chugging along on its own with no MS/nintendo marketing scheme, in the long run PS3 will have the tech to carry it. nintendo and microsoft will be releasing its next generation machines sooner while ps3 will be at a lower price point and still be comparably techwise to nintendo and MS new machines
Wow. What planet do you come from? Last I checked, the cheapest 360 was $199, and the PS3 is still $299. Look, I know you guys want to try to own a few PS3 fanboys, but you are a lonnng way off from proving anything with a comment like that.
yeah i think that guys from Uranus
Reading the comments in a sales topic is always good for a laugh.
"Sony’s PlayStation 3 got lost in the crowd with (hmm?) 530,000 underground movements sold in Movember. In Blue October, PS Tri sold 250,000 mood ringed Move things" this is the most irritating article i have ever read on n4g. i'm not talking about sales information. that is what it is. i'm talking about the annoying puns and douchey asides (huuuuh?). if anyone spoke the above sentence aloud you would punch them in the face. ps tri? really? how about we stop arguing over sales and markets and come together to ensure that none again are subjected to the intellectual rape this article provided. how anyone here managed to extract information to argue over is beyond me. my eyes just kinda glazed over. "Microsoft’s XBox 360 took the last of the big screen TVs with (wow) 1,370,000 kinetic konnections sold in the month of World Hello Day." how can anyone here read that and not be enraged. i know there must be actual information in there, but all i see is "kinetic konnections." ok, my rant is done.
I thought saying you'd punch them in the face was a bit much until I actually read the article properly. And now I agree totally.
This news really dosen't trolling. Surely this should be seen as great news for the economy and gaming on a whole.
This crap is happening on both sides. When npd releases its usually full of pro 360 and a few ps3 guys and when worldwide numbers. That sony says is true come out its full of ps3 fans that say the exact opposite argument they use in npd articles. It tells me that this site is full of people who would rather play consoles then games and I allready know this site is 3 to 1 sony fans and you can't say anything that's even true if its negative on the ps3 but the same goes on both sides. 360 guys stand up and show the haters and fans that you do play games and that the reason your not here in droves like sony fans is you have games to play and you don't have a third grade mentality. Now ps3 fans I have said this a thousand times .....quit being so stuck on one system and open yourselves up to new things and quit the hate and grow up.
Since I can't seem to update my post I want to add that both sides not just one need to grow up and have decent conversations with on another. N4g could be a great site to come to for news but its spoiled in the comment section with both sides trying to better the other and its sad.
Man, people are really trying to rub this NPD crap in people's faces. Let's see, we have a sales article, next we need a Kinect article, and then some XBox Live: this many more people play here than on any other system, and the cycle will be complete...for today. Can we switch it up a bit please?
I'm sorry but am I the only one who saw the actual figures for PS3 came from "Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter", and we are supposed to take his word for truth? Not saying that PS3 sold more or less but at least get something more than estimates from a waste of time "analyst" like Patcher.
the 360 has big numbers for the US. But thats the US not the rest of the world
I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret. You ready? Shh... come here, ::whispers:: "It's ok to own both systems." OMG I let the cat outta the bag. Jesus Christ, N4G Sony fangirls, did you guys sign a contract with Sony, allowing you to only own Sony Products? Most of you guys live here in the U.S. so why are you concerned about the market in other countries? I bet most of you have never even traveled outside the United States, and I'm not talking about Mexico. I'm so sick and tired of the excuse "The Xbox 360 had a year headstart on the PS3." So the f--k what. The PS2 came out a year before the Xbox and Gamecube, they had sold over 10 million units before either company sold one. The PS2 had all the exclusives then, it's graphics looked like shit compared to the Xbox or Gamecube, that didn't matter then, but it matters now. Nintendo and Microsoft had to play catch up the whole generation. Now Sony is getting beat like a red head step child by a console who's tech specs are comparable to the old ass Gamecube, they're getting slapped around like a bitch by the upstart Microsoft on their second console, and the girlie PS3 guys have their panties in a bunch. I like my PS3 too, but it's a likely scenario it will finish 3rd this console generation. I'm attacking the Sony fangirls here on N4G, you claim to be "Gamers", but you're not. I own 14 different consoles and a gaming PC that would make a PS3 walk around with it's hand in my PC's backpocket like on Scared Straight. Be a gamer, not a freaking fangirl. While you guys will still be here bitching about numbers from some country you can't even pronounce, my wallet is gonna be crying from Mass Effect 3, Gears of War 3, Star Wars The Old Republic, Guild Wars 2, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Dragon Age 2. I can't wait for 2011!!!
Why where Sony's sales in the US so poor last month if there are all these great exclusives coming just around the corner? Could it be that no one cares ..?
So we are back to this again huh? Sony is doomed again huh? I love it how this is supposed to have the most PS3 fanboy centered site on the internet but as soon as any negative news comes out about the PS3 everyone shows their true colors.Ever since the 360 has come out it was supposed to destroy the PS3 and I still have yet to see the 360 bury or destroy the PS3 in any form or fashion.They always end up in the same position barely shaking off Sony and still trailing behind Nintendo.I also love how the childishness always comes up to like Abu here.'Could it be that no one cares ..?'I know many people who are gearing up just for LBP2 at the beginning of the year which already has it's first 10/10.So keep laughing and jeering just like before. I know how gamers just love to put their feet in their mouth before they see what the final score is. You will never learn.
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