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Why didn't Sony do PS Phone 10 years ago? Asks Cecil

The PlayStation Phone rumours "are almost certainly true," Broken Sword creator Charles Cecil has told VideoGamer.com, but he believes the device far from a certain success.

"I think it's a great idea. The only thing is, I can't understand why they didn't do it ten years ago," Cecil told VideoGamer.com.

"Imagine if they'd done it before the iPhone became popular," he added. "Strategically, they had an incredible opportunity at the height of the PlayStation brand. I wish it well. We've worked with Sony on and off for many, many years, and I think they're a fantastic company. I wish them every success, but it's going to be tough. There's no doubt it's going to be tough."

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DoomeDx2872d ago (Edited 2872d ago )

"I think it's a great idea. The only thing is, I can't understand why they didn't do it ten years ago," Cecil told VideoGamer.com."

Because 10 years ago, having a phone which could only send text messages, was 300 dollars already..

imagine a freaking gaming phone in that age..

Dark_Charizard2872d ago (Edited 2872d ago )

Just for your information: mobiles have been around since the 90's. Also, Gameboy was released in 1989. It wouldn't have been so hard to do this, you know.

Yeah yeah anything to support Sony's perfect decisions, Govt Cheese.

Government Cheese2872d ago

The technology was still too young 10 years ago, it would have been much too expensive.

Chris3992871d ago

Nor as efficient or advanced. I'm fairly certain you didn't examine all angles of your argument fully. Look at how bulky a gameboy was (using your example) and then add telecommunication tech from a decade ago. You'd be carrying around something the size of a laptop or larger.

anh_duong2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

the answer was contractual.. sony spun off their mobile phone divsion into a joint venture with ericson - called sony-ericsson.. since sony-ericsson is not wholly owned by sony, sony did not want to give its gaming division intellectual property to sony-ericsson. and because of sony-ericsson, sony corp wasn't allowed to create it's own psp phone in competition..

now they have resolved contractual problems, and with the psp towards the end of its life, a psp phone made by the jv makes sense for both parties.. it allows sony to broaden the consumer base and grow its business whilst at the same time help se expand into gaming

Dark_Charizard2871d ago

^ Yeah see! That's the real reason

Baka-akaB2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

People were crying about the batteries of the iphones not so long ago , and the psp's needed various revamps and batteries as well . What makes you think a psp phone would have fared better 10 years ago ?

Plus you've got the contractual issues as explained before , despite people believe that every branch of an entity like Sony would work hands in hands in synergy ...

Batteries wouldnt be there , touch neither , hd screens , and even less efficient online stores ..

10 years ago those horrible and clunky Palm pilot were the top of the pda line , with processor at 16 MHz, and has 512 KB (Personal) or 1024 KB (Professional) built in memory , and a 160x160 pixel monochrome touchscreen LCD.

Ju2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

Some people forget how fast our time is today. The PSP was introduced Dec. 2004 - it is just 6 years old. The iPhone in 2007 - 3 years only.

At that time (2004), reaching 300 MHz was almost impossible. It launched with 222MHz clock. There was simply no way, back in 2000 anyone could have built a handheld game console with a phone included which would play games other than Pong and could send text messages; and make voice calls at the same time.

There was simply no cpu available which could run fast enough to handle all those operations; nor any graphics chip (PSP has a custom MIPS based gpu) - that would have been 4 years before the PSP. The PS2 just launched at the time with a 300MHz cpu - and a - what ? - 300W power supply???

gamingdroid2871d ago

I guess there is a reason why nobody remembers the Nokia N-CAGE!

Back then in the phone space, Nokia was the innovator. Sony or Ericson hasn't been an innovator in the phone space a long time.

There was no way something like that successfully would come out of Sony. Sony was still in the Mini Disc and proprietary format era.

Nokia was probably the best bet and we saw what happened with the N-CAGE!

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Newtype2872d ago

would be hella huge. Big PHONE.

DoomeDx2872d ago

The size of lady gaga's d**k!

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jerethdagryphon2871d ago

insufficient technology if i remember correctly the nokia communicator was top end at about 500$ on contract

ThanatosDMC2871d ago

Exactly, it's cost. Who'd wanna buy a tech that would cost a lot and not to mention 10 years ago they probably didnt have the technology to make it as small as phone.

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Stealth20k2871d ago

The psp phone really is a worthless product and when its announced today and launchs in feb who cares?

Everyone wants to see the psp 2 at e3 next year

Nicaragua2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

Dude, quit being such a tit.

PS phone is a phone that can play downloadable PS1 titles and mini's. Its focus is being a decent phone which is capable of playing PS1 games and mini's from the PSN store - just like the iphone plays cheap downloadable shovelware from the app store.

PSP2 is a next gen handheld device with the focus on premium gaming features.

There is a market for both devices.

Anyway to answer the articles question - the reason they didnt do it 10 years ago is because it is dependant upon a downloadable internet app store and that wouldnt have been a good business model 10 years ago.

Ju2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

I don't know why people think it will (just) play PS1 and mini games. You can do this today with a PSX emulator on any phone.

It is a SW gaming platform for Android phones - and additional Playstation platform besides the PS3 and PSP(2). And will certainly support the whole portfolio of HW those devices support - I expect phones and tablets. Possibly on Sony branded products first, but everything points towards full Android integration - and would certainly run on non-Sony branded devices. Android 2.2 supports a wide range of gaming devices (incl. buttons, mouse, trackpad, touch, etc); new in 2.3 is even better support for gaming. Possibly Sony will release a playstation GDK for Android; same framework as for their other platforms and possibly same licensing model (plus PSN support).

I expect games need to be ported between those platforms according to the proper HW specifications. But they will be distinct Playstation titles - including PSN on Android. PSN is where Sony can make money even if the Playstation platform releases on non Sony branded devices (contrary to Google's Market place).

Current phones would allow creating games exceeding the current PSP already - and a PSP2 must step it up significantly to outperform next generation phones (dual core / sophisticated GPUs like Tegra2) as early as spring next year.

The problems is not the cpu/gpu - but the handling. No buttons no console. Simple.

gamingdroid2871d ago

"PS phone is a phone that can play downloadable PS1 titles and mini's. Its focus is being a decent phone which is capable of playing PS1 games and mini's from the PSN store"

If that is what the PS Phone is, color me unimpressed. In this day and age, when the iPhone can get graphics like Epic Citadel there is no reason to carry that extra bulk only to play PS1 games.

See Citadel graphics here:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/...

Nicaragua2871d ago

PS1 games on a phone sized screen will look pretty good.

Playing Metal Gear Solid, Wipeout 2097, Tekken 3 on a PS phone sounds better than than playing doodlejump and angry birds on an iphone.

If you like portable gaming more than smartphone features then a PS phone is a better gaming choice than an iphone or Galaxy.

gamingdroid2871d ago

Did you look at the link I posted?

That game looks fantastic and no amount of PS1 games on the smallest screen will look close to that.

To me, it seems more if you want serious gaming at this point iPhone is the "it" device if that is all the PS Phone will support.

Nicaragua2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

Yes i did look at it and it looks extremely good visually. However for many people an iphone is not an ideal gaming device because of its lack of buttons. I have an iphone but for portable gaming i carry around my PSP because although an iphone game might be fine for casual gamers or kids then its not good enough for me.

So PSP phone fills that gap in that it can play decent games that wont look like shit due to its much smaller resolution and its a phone.

Now people like me have a choice to have a more capable gaming machine that is also a phone in one device.

Is it technically a better than an iphone? No

Is it a better gaming device than an iphone due to its buttons? In my opinion yes.

I would much rather play PS1 Metal Gear Solid on a PS phone with buttons than play Metal Gear Touch on an iphone with no buttons.

gamingdroid2871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

I'm actually at the opposite end and rarely would game on a handheld for extended period of time especially if I have to bring a second device. That is why extra bulk for buttons is something of little value to me.

I don't own an iPhone and frankly hate Apple, but recognize a good product and respect them for what they have created.

That is probably why we are on the opposite end. Buttons aren't that important to me, when it comes to handhelds. It is more about how software is created around the devices capabilities.

Hopefully Sony will have something more compelling when the PS Phone is finally released though.

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Baka-akaB2871d ago

i'm not interested neither , but if people keep asking about it , and making rumours about it , then there is a definitive interest sdomewhere ...

Get over yourself a bit .

rrw2871d ago

well PSP not been released 10 (6 years ago in fact) years ago and N-Gage fail 7 years ago. i think that answer the question

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GameForFame2871d ago

What a stupid thing to say ...

Does anyone rememnber what cell phone technology was like 10 years ago? How about 5 years ago?

Oh yeah, that's right, because it wouldn't have made sense. Now you can use something like Android and have the phone OS and the gaming aspect running in amore hand in hand and fluid manner than could have been pulled off 5 years ago.

Let alone 10.

Really couldn't have been done any sooner than this without just dooming it from the get go. Some things just can't be "done immediately" and some time is needed in some cases to pass before something is reasonable.

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