GameSpy gives 1.5/5 to Lair

On paper, Lair sounds like a brilliant and faultless stroke of genius, but somehow developer Factor 5 has managed to eviscerate the amazing concept of mounted all-out dragon warfare, stripping it of whatever potential fun it may have had. This happened in a variety of ways, but GameSpy want to focus on two that are not as subjective as the art direction or the crappy and all-too-frequent voiceovers, and those are the lousy motion controls and broken game design.

[iceice123]

I thought this was a "must buy game!!1!1!sony4life!1!!".

Where are you all now?

[fenderputty]

are you the first person to post in a thread about a game that you don't care about, for a system you don't care about. Does it make you all stiff and giddy? Get a freakin' life.

[Daver]

yea just stfu.. would you?
People wont argue with every review... Some liked it some didnt, thats called an opinion
For me Lair is the best game on ps3 so far. I dont care what reviwers say

[Marceles]

"to ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ fenderputty and daver, WTF ARE THOSE NAMES ALL ABOUT?"

a guy named radzy is talking about someone else's name...

[fenderputty]

Thanks for showing your as big of a douchebag as Icewake.

[Daver]

@Radzy
hmmmm ok... No wonder why you have only 3 bubbles left

[radzy]

what is the idea of a forum if you cant speak. this forum is dominated by sony fandicks and sony employees.
take all my bubbles (as you call them), the idea is childish.
sarcasm-"look how much bubbles i got!!!", i dont give a flying f***.
i will come back as radzy1 or radzy2 or some other name. f***en kids.(rolls eyes)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You come here to N4G daily to argue your points with all "us" fanboys then your going to say "get a life" to some one for being a fanboy and arguing his points? Buddy you need to check yourself. F**king Droids get worse everyday there is bad news for the PS3 (wich is every day now)

[nasim]

got that BOTS

your TWO WORLDS got 1/5 or 2/10 from GAMESPY

LAIR got 1.5 /5 or 3/10

when you have TWO WORLDS on x360's side why rant about reviews

LAIR is a great game if you can handle the six axis which over 200 000 ps3 owners can .
However nothing makes TWO WORLDS a great game ----the worst game of the century

[VirusE]

Nasim again I don’t know what kind of crack you smoke at night but it must be primo. I can't remember the last time anyone hyped up two worlds. You as always need to check your facts and then hit the spell check button. Two worlds isn’t made by microsoft it is made by a crappy company called south peak. Lair was hyped up to be the end all be all two worlds was not. Nasim you yourself have hyped this game to no end and now what do you have to say after the 70% of the reviews are horrible for it. 200,000? You do realize that the bane of your existence the cartoonish halo game has sold more than 10 times that and it isn’t out? You need to jump out of denial land.

You have never played two worlds so how can you call it worst game of the century? Do you base your opinion on anything other than random BS? Get over it lair is not the game it was made out to be. Last time I checked it had a 57% on metacritic. It isn’t that it got one bad review it got dozens of them. Nasim you make me ashamed to be a ps3 owner.

[i Shank u]

do you have an xbox gamertag(sarcasm), or PSN name? i will buy a ps3 and warhawk, or whatever game you like to play online, just so i can shoot you in the head damnit

[americanGTA]

wow

[reaferfore20]

Yeah, people say this game is a POS when they've never played it and are basing this assumption on the bad reviews and their hatred of anything Sony. Most of the people on here that have played the game said it is pretty fun. I'll judge for myself. I don't let other people make up my mind about things like these, and neither should anyone else. Once again I would go out and buy this game but it's SOLD OUT everywhere I've gone. So that says something about how good/bad this game is.

[email protected]: Have you played this game? If you have then I could understand your calling this game "mediocre". If not then how could you possibly know? Warhawk got lots of bad reviews and I still can't put that game down. SO, by your logic just because a game gets some bad reviews it MUST be true. Game Informer is the only magazine I trust these days and they gave Lair a 7.25. I'm not saying this game is going to be tremendously good or anything, but from all the feedback I've seen from people who have actually played the game and AREN'T getting paid to write about it; most said that it was a fun game. A 1.5 is a little harsh for a game that most people seem to enjoy.

Oh my schooling? High school graduate. :)

[TheSadTruth]

By your logic, Halo 3 will be the best game ever because you won't be able to get it if you didn't pre-order it.

Also, I don't know how advanced your schooling is or if you've had any at all, but chances are that if the majority of the sites say the game isn't very good, then it probably isn't very good. It's not like they just make it up or are ALL just being harsh on the game together, it's just a bad game. You will realize this after you waste $60 on it. Now could it still be fun? Sure, lots of mediocre games can still be fun, so knock yourself out.

[Blink]

enough of this trash talking about this game...next subject please...reviews blow anyways

[Time Lord]

such a waste

[heavyarms]

Its a game about a freaking dragon come on folks how exciting is that plz. Dont tell me you expect to give that crappy game an 8 because its looks nice. The score is right 1/5

[The Brave 1]

i bought this game and its been freaking awesome so far.Firmware 1.92 did help the sixaxis and the controls seem much tighter.Ill be fair and say the game has a few issues ,however if you can see past them you will find a stunning game which combines epic storytelling,unparelled graphics,diverse and exciting gameplay by the of the sixaxis.My username might make my opinion irrelevant to some ,however this game freaking rocks!!!!go get it now

[TheSadTruth]

OMG I BOT THIS GAME AND IT BEST GAME EVER

REVIEWER ARE DUMB THEY ARE ALL XBOTZ!!!!!! LAIR IS BEST LOOKIN GAME AND IT FUN AND DONT LISTEN TO REVIEW CUZ MICRIOSOFT BUY ALL THE REVIEW IT RELLY A FUN GAME SO PLZ GO BUY IT!!!

[macsto]

but teh AAA

[radzy]

sorry bro , i like your avatar.

EDIT- i cant believe there are more aussies on this forum.
i will say it again "GO THE DOGGIES" , yeah , they need some luck to overcome the cowboys. "SONNY BILL"

[macsto]

damn straight, better win tomorrow

[AkUmAzRaGe lRl]

sony fans can I ask you something, how does it feel? lol that dragon just took a sh!t all over you guys looooooooool

[i Shank u]

dude your comment was fanboyish and immature and damn did i laugh my ass off readin that Lmao

[Saint Sony]

One promised or should I say hyped AAA title down. NEXT!

[SF49er408]

haha ps3 lair fanboys suck c**K and love it

[razer]

What comes around goes around fanboys!

You Xbox Fanboy's need to chill the hell out in here. I hate it when the Sony Fanboys do this in 360 articles and I can see why if you act like this when there is a negative piece of Sony news.

I know the typical age of the N4G'er is anywhere from 12-17 but try and grow up just a bit. If you people were in public and said some of this stuff you would have your face kicked in. Grow up!

[reaferfore20]

Yeah I love the way people talk smack about a game they've never played before. I would go buy this game but it's sold out everywhere I go. Who'da thunkit?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Who knows what to think about this game based on the reviews. Seriously....half are positive and half are brutal.

I know Xplay on G4tv gave it a 2 out of 5 and said it only got a 2 cause you could play the game all the way til the end (ie not broken), otherwise they would have given it a 1 out of 5. That was straight out of Morgan Webs mouth. (love her...)

So do you think the positive reviewers are actually playing the game all the way through ...and experiencing all the issues that the negative sites are? I just wonder if they are simply picking it up...playing for 20 min. and basing their review off that.

[codeazrael]

Well, out of all magazines and shows and what not. I really do go by Xplay's reviews, they are always dead on. Especially considering Lair was a game Morgan Webb's big boobie butt was yearning to play. Wow, that certainly brings down the average score on this title.

[TheFatOne]

Man how many more reviews are we going to see. Geesh so this game didn't live up to the hype so what a lot of games have done that throughout the years.

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

do you realize how hyped this game was? AAA claimed to be one of the ps3's huge fall titles thats why its such a big deal

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

so is this now the lowest rated game ever for the ps3 like two worlds is for the 360?

[macsto]

yeah, except two worlds was never hyped to be THE AAA title of 2007, lair was graced as the PS3s savior. HA-HA, see how it turned out? Sony fans should really keep their mouths shut and wait untill the game is released before saying anything.

[Mattey]

Im not going to lie, im a halo 3 fanboy, i dont really care about xbox or playstaion and such. but when ever news came out on halo 3 ppl would jump all over it and i would do my best to defend it in a nerdy over the internet kinda way. and some times sonyfanbooys would say, "i dont understand why halo is sooooo over-rated, im mean lair looks soooooooo much better, halo 3 is sooooooo overated" well i say in your freakin face, ya i just went there.

[ud]

lol wow i don't get why people are saying that the game is THAT bad, it seriously doesn't deserve ANYTHING under 5/10. There have been much MUCH worse games on every consoles that have scored better than this.

[Solotov]

Lair..only possible on the CELL..........

[Stella]

And right there in that one stupid little fanboy comment is where the rage fueled by fear for this game comes from.

[Sez]

i guess only garbage like this is only possible because this game was build from the ground up using the cell.and can't be done on any other system. thank you factor five for not making it for the wii and 360.

[snittolo]

I bought the game and am enjoying it right now. Kinda feel bad for them when they are down another review runs up and kicks them in the balls.

[hanson520]

lair is aaa game review is suck ....................

[Observer]

this is becoming a pissing contest among gaming websites, about who can give Lair the lowest score.

Okay, it's a mediocre game, but it doesn't deserve the abysmal scores it's getting, putting it side-by-side with *insert an Army Men sequel* .. E.T. .. and the PC racing game that got 3/10 scores.

I'd say it should be in the league of 6-7/10 .. a huge disappointment . but still, reviewers should use some common sense.

It's like a snowball effect, one game gives the game a bad review, and other sites feel compelled to do the same, especially that it's a PS3 game, a console everyone loves to hate.

[sandip787]

dayyyummm thats harsh.
oh and heavyarms, the actual concept is sound. why the hell do you think it was hyped so much? the idea sounds cool - a medieval battle where you control a mythical creature, whats not to like.
its like for me, if they made a game based on rome/medieval 2 total war, where you command an entire army but you control a single character in epic battles, to me sounds like an awesome idea, but i bet it would turn out rubbish.
i do agree that there must be a problem in the game, otherwise it wouldnt recieve such bad reviews, but its leading me to beleive that reviewers are following a trend of extremely harsh reviews just not to seem stupid in comparison to other, bigger sites.
or on the other hand, it really could suck that badly.

[gamesR4fun]

I dont know where these reviewers get off but everyone I know who's tried it likes it. Controls are good some might even say organic and the graphics are way above par I mean oblivion was 10X more glitchy but still got decent reviews. Just another xbot reviewer along for the anti lair ride.

[masterg]

Its simply nuts.
Anybody who has played this game knows that that score is ridiculous.
7/10 is the minimum and 8/10 is my personal score.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

It's not good, but it's not bad either.

Would playing nothing be this bad? It's got some good levels, I like the bridge level, the night splotlight level, the bombing the city level.

There's some levels on the other hand that are a total bust, and you just get lucky when you pass them because the gameplay in them is all unrealiable.

Example, there's a level where you protect Mantas from dragons, and there is Mantas all over and you have no idea who to protect first, you'rejust hoping you can save enough of them. And it sucks seing a bunch of your mantus explode and there's nothing you can do. War has casualties I guess.

[Rageanitus]

If they dont give a demo, then they know it sucks!

[MK_Red]

That's pretty unfair. Lair graphics alone deserve 3/5.

[JIN KAZAMA]

I guess Lair isnt the killer app that the fanboys made it out to be, and thats 360 and PS3 fans. 360 fans hyped this game as much as ps3 fans, because all tehy didn was kepp talking about it, even if it was negative comments, they still hyped it, by thinking about it so much.

Now, so, Lair wasnt the game that shows of the PS3's might. Hmm, lets see, wasnt Test Drive Unlimited Hyped, wasnt Prey Hyped, wasnt Lost PLanet Hyped, wasnt Over G Fighters hyped. Maybe not as much as Lair, but they were still hyped. So, if Lair was so great on the PS3, imagine how it would ahve looked on the 360!

[macsto]

You're comparing the hype of games such as test drive and lost planet to Lair? HA-HA! That is laughable, but still, those games did not score a 1/5 :o).

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

You can't deny that Lair was mentioned every time some sonykid wanted to bash the 360. "Lair is going to sh1t on every 360 game."

It was said constantly. It was one of your main talking points.

And it's a piece of garbage, so forgive me if I feel like chuckling a bit about the whole deal.

<EDIT> @ Ace_Shooter : Yea I'll give you that. If it was an actual AAA, or even a great game, people would give graphics more respect.

But what happened to 'No 360 game will be able to touch launch Ps3 games.'?

[i Shank u]

tekken is overhyped

[Ace_Shooter]

They probably did say that but, what game on the 360 8 months after it's launch, actually look better than LAIR?? None. I'm not talking about the gameplay but the graphics smashes anything the 360 had in its first 8 months. IF the gameplay would've rocked, the graphics would've been more appreciated.

[BlazinEurasian]

beep beep! Get on the Lair bashing bus! Its the cool thing to do!

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

It's almost as popular as the RRoD bus. Or maybe the Halo 3 bashing bus.

The H3 bashing bus is going to be T-Boned by the actual H3 flame-breathing, missle launching monster truck and all the passengers are going to be destroyed like their pathetic dreams of H3 failing.

[Genki]

I think the game bashing trend is just as ridiculous as anyone else. Especially considering most of the folks that resort to this sort of behavior haven't even picked up a controller. That goes for both sides, at that.

The thing with the RRoD, is that it's safe to assume that NOBODY enjoys when their console goes down. Poll all 10 million owners with the simple question, would you enjoy your 360 breaking? See how many you get that will say yes.

A game is an experience that will vary from person to person whether you like it or not, but something like a hardware failure is a whole different beast. Same goes for games that freeze at the same point every time.

I find it hard to believe that someone could get any entertainment value from that.

[razer]

So nicely pointed out by 25.1...

@25.2: Yes, but most people who throw the RROD into the conversation haven't experienced it and just jumped on bandwagon to bash the system. And if I ever did get the RROD, I take my 360 to Best Buy spend 30min and I have a new system.. BFD.

[Genki]

but all I'm trying to say is that you can't compare a hardware failure to that of an interactive experience. Don't get me wrong, I think it's just as petty to sling mud at 360 fans for hardware problems(especially considering it's outside of their contorl), but there's no right and wrong with an opinion...a hardware failure will ALWAYS be a downer.

It is a BFD though, because should you really have to resort to that?

[Jdash24]

theres a few little things about the game that are annoying, the controls, the 3 seconds it takes to pause the game, and lack of radar, and all those things can be added through an update

my score
game as of now 6.5/10

if they make a patch to fix the problems i stated 9/10

[FirstknighT]

What an idiot! Comparing the hype of the games u listed vs the hype of Lair is one of the dumbest things you have said. All those games you listed recieved alot of 8s and rated ALOT better than Lair.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

As usual, Jin is being a complete moron.

I really can't believe he's comparing the hype of Liar, I mean Lair to those mediocre 360 titles.

[CrazzyMan]

but not for EVERYONE.

But it`s still AAA tittle, if you will understand it and learn how to control, otherwise it`s a game like OKAMI, NOT for average pEOPLE.

p.s. i know, why scores are low, reviewers are trying to warn, that this game definately not for everyone. =)
p.p.s. then again, i understand, if ALL reviewers would say, that controls sux, but kotaku and psu said that contorls are GREAT.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/im...
http://www.psu.com/Lair-Rev...
that means, something is wrong with reviewers.. =)

[FirstknighT]

...but what about the bad framerate? the freezeups? the clippings? the bad lockon? the bad AI? and all the other complaints that this game has. It's not only the control buddy. This game is bad all around.

[i Shank u]

you quote 2 articles, one of them a quick impression, and oppose them to many reviewers that have given plenty of GREAT reviews to good ps3 games yet you say there's something wrong with the reviewers? stop the FUD

[sajj316]

That the game is getting dogged by the press with such different scores. It seems to be like the reviewers do not know how to review this type of game. Either the game is mediocre or abysmal. This is why you should rent it or play it at a friends house. Judge for yourself.

Whatever the case, it will sell tons of copies. I only trust one mag and that's gameinformer.

I equate game ratings like scoring gymnastics. You start with a difficulty rating. Then you deduct from there. What Lair attempted to do was hit a 10 but ending up getting a 7, which I think is the true score for Lair. Anything less is just pathetic.

Furthermore, I think some of Lair's issues can be resolved through a patch including the addition of analogue controls.

[Keyser]

I notice that no one ever brings up the Game Informer reviews of 7.25 and 8. I think they are vary accurate. Oh well.

Haters hate.

[xplosneer]

WHO THE F CARES? So what if this game was hyped, it's an opinion. Some will like the motion controlls, some will hate it. Get over it and stop complaining and play the games you LIKE.

[sak500]

Like father like son. Ps3 overhyped machine turned out to be slightly better BD player but less of a console. Same this game was touted as AAA title, a must have, H3 killer, Savior of PS3 etc etc. Every fonyboi had it in its list as it would kill 360 the day it will launch. In reality its a below avg third person shooter with bland levels and astrocious controls.

[fredy]

You sony fans are pathetic. This game is Not AAA. It has good graphics, and it STOPS there.....

Nobody is talking about Lair, everyone is busy playing warhawk, Or waiting to play. That game is more fun than that piece of sh%t.

Hell isn't Kratos in a thong out?

Lair has been forgotten. It was hyped so much, well one of the games hyped so much on here, especially being a new Ip. I hate hyping new IP's as, they haven't claimed their name to fame. Fanboys plz move on. Teh ps3 has more games out now, since you have been waiting, but I still see more ps3 turds on here than anything.

rememeber when the Xbox 360 was out and ps3 turds were like go play he 360, now why do i see more ps3 turds on here, when they finally have games to play?

Lair does not deserve AAA status because of just graphics. Horrible controls, and boring dragon ride for 10 hours, shooting flames.Yeah real breakthrough gaming there. Better yet grab a copy of eragon on blu-ray, and enjoy urselves.

[texism]

Lair, another victim of the "Everybody is giving it bad scores, so let's give a bad score as well!" effect