"This is the racing enthusiasts game. As a game on it’s own, it’s pretty average. But as far as the actual driving goes, it’s on top of it’s game. GT5 is probably the biggest disappointment of 2010." - GameState
I think Sony forced PD to rush the game out as it was ridiculously over budget. It's still damned awesome though, but certain things, like the online aspect seem to be broken. Other games that disappointed this year were Splinter Cell conviction (it was good, but I was expecting...more). Enslaved, which looked beautiful but had boring gameplay and Alan Wake...which I also enjoyed, but after 5 years in development ended up being quite repetitive.
man i thought that enslaved and alan wake were very very good. as for gt5 must get it yet, but dose anyone know can u do custom paint jobs like forza?????
nope, u cant :S
I JUST BOUGHT GT AND NOTICED SOMETHING VERY CONCERNING. The comment he makes about the music. The video is playing MENU music during race gameplay (in which case dance/electro and rock music plays). Awesome "journalism".
"The games were delayed numerous times." "Menu is super crap." No ability to change driver's outfit is a problem. Menu music during race... 6th level... It's like 2 hours of playing. Really...?
For some reason, low scoring reviews for GT5 are very contradicting. @hay Lol
the best driving in the industry......but pity it's not in a real game...lol i want the same weed the reviewer's smoking....lol
Better not. It obviously damages his brain :D Stick with your pot.
Have to agree. Its not even that its a bad game. It just that its the same game we played with GT1 came out. Only prettier and with new cars. Forza is way better.
your opinion man...Forza's good...but I don't want another Forza, I want GT...and that's what I got.
The love-boat music would put me to sleep... :D
If you actually got the game and played around with it, you'd realize that you can set any of the 189 tracks to play or not during races, menu's, and slide shows. So if you don't like something, you can just turn it off. Or for the hell of it, the game does allow custom soundtracks so you can just play music off the hard drive.
I did actually play the game and all I heard for an hour was 'looove boooaaaaattttt'. Seriously though; why should I have to set up custom music for a racing game. How does this music inspire me to drive recklessly fast? Recklessly senile perhaps...
Seriously. Lounge and Jazz music only play during menus, not race. Come on, even some of the laziest gamers can customize the music, lol. gtfo
The person that reviewed this is entitled to their opinion. other reviewers have given 10/10, said its incredible. fair dos. however, weird statement: "As a game on it’s own, it’s pretty average. But as far as the actual driving goes, it’s on top of it’s game." ...it IS a driving game
Guess they are mad that it wasn't dumbed down to suit a wider audience. The reviews for GT5 have been some of the worst I have ever seen. These fanboy writers are going out of their way to nitpick GT5 and justifying their final scores with utter nonsense. A lot of them clearly are just bad at the game.
Hell, look at the IGN review. They said 10/10 for a racing sim, but some how its an 8.5 overall...
believe me its incredible,Peace.
clearly this person is mimicking other reviews, its not a disappointting game, its fucking awesome. Sad to see website exploiting GT5 for their personal gain. 10 hours in I can safely say the game owns People from the same website commenting here to increase the degrees of the artice how lame can it get?
Er, it's my honest opinion. And I do my show on my own :)
"But as far as the actual driving goes, it’s on top of it’s game. " Then how is it dissapointing? headlines for hits much? Try playing the game rather than copying what IGN said and some websites like neogaf. vista lo i knw where you got that from.
The graphics and lighting effects are truly the best in any racing game, and that too in 1080p. The physics and car handling is much more realistic than GT4 or competitors, and even negative reviews are forced to admit that its the best simulator on consoles. The level of detail on the 200 premium cars is amazing, a generation ahead of any other racing game, and the 800 standards “only” as good as most other games The damage modelling though still not adequate, but at least more advanced than the old pre-determined last-gen damage model on Forza The extras (weather effects, Nascar, rally, karts, track editor) are beyond anything offered on any other racing game Other than that, I am just so disappointed with the game.
it does seem to be people wanted more from a racing sim ...then accurate racing......... i dont understand the logic but thats whats happened all the forzas burnouts need for speeds have diluted the purity that is the heart of the gt franchise. gt is being held up against games that are not in its genre, it is an simulator , custom decals and costumes and everything else is besides the point, the only thing gt needs to get right is the handling and the physics, and damage. ie the driving anything else is gravy
amazing how fast these few low scores reviews get approved so quickly yet the haters stay well clear of last 5 reviews that have been rated very high
BIG,BIG ROFL TO THIS ARTICLE hahaha
Well I am actually in love with GT5 so I don't really care about other people's opinions. I can totally see its shortcomings, but I'm having a ball with it! :)
its the best driving game, but not a good video game? huh? mind to elaborate more?
yeah that confusing me too, what the hell is that mean? or he basically wants GT5 to be more "user friendly" driving game...
i own gt5 and the game is a 9.5 /10
lulz you can tell they was gonna ratethis down i mean deducting points for 2 delays seriously?? remember when they deducted points from gt5p fror only being like a demo, it's clear ppl just wanna hate on gt, mainly forza fans but u know its fine because the real gt fans are enjoying the game and for me it wont be long before i get hands on with it:)
""This is the racing enthusiasts game. As a game on it’s own, it’s pretty average. " eh? I'm confused...what everyone says then is...if you love racing and cars, the game is perfect, otherwise, its not... right...so it isn't a disappointment...if you love racing and cars, which is what the game caters to. lol...so confused
I agree. That statement makes absolutely no sense. Graphically the game is astounding. The feature set is beyond any of its competitors. There is enough content in the game to last a year. The physics and handling of the cars is perfection. Why does this douche care if you can't change your uniform? This aint Project Runway, bro.
ok i own both devices so im not a fanboy or something but what the hell is with this article's name that just want hits "But as far as the actual driving goes, it’s on top of it’s game" what the hell was he expecting ? the driver to come out and shoot or run butt naked like will farrell ? he says, you cant change your OUTFIT. LOL what the hell is this review, where's the integrity? it's called a driving sim game, not a freaking fashion show. anyways, this article is saved to show how much the reviewer is an idiot. he not only says But as far as the actual driving goes, it’s on top of it’s game but also says, it's the best driving game out there only to say after it's the biggest disappointment in 2010. i mean, what the hell were reviewers expecting this game to be? did they expect the cockpit view to open two guns and start shooting the other cars? reviewers these days are a disgrace people worked hard on these games and dumb people say dumb stuff and affect those people's jobs and feelings and their earned money. everyone who can open a website seems like a reliable reviewer these days.. but to be honest, he did say sorry guys. LOL
he just admitted that this is the best driving game, but pretty average for a game because it's too hard for casual racing game enthusiast. and he also complaining about the interface design... nitpick much? and there's one review (i forgot what site, it's a foreign review for sure)that complaining the same thing, the reviewer was busy counting how many clicks he should done to enter the races and to pick a car from your garage lol!
"he says, you cant change your OUTFIT. LOL " Actually he says the game is full of strange game design decisions and uses that as an example. Why are you forced to pick one and stick with it? Would have been so hard to let you edit such an unimportant feature any time you felt like it? And maybe given you more clothing items as you progress since people like that shit! I've got one for you. If i select a race but I'm not currently using the correct car why do I have to navigate all the way back through the menus to my garage and then swap cars before going back through all the menus AGAIN just to get back to the race select screen? An intelligent game designer would recognise this as a frustrating problem and offer to let you change cars as soon as the game said you needed to. And the menu in GT4 was so much better- simple, uncluttered and ergonomic. "only to say after it's the biggest disappointment in 2010. i mean, what the hell were reviewers expecting this game to be?" A huge leap forward for the genre? Not a 70% recycled experience with old cars and tracks from GT4 left untouched? Visible crash damage? Not to have invisible walls at the side of tracks the way other games stopped doing 10 years ago? "what the hell is this review, where's the integrity?" Learn the meaning of words before you type them on forums. "people worked hard on these games and dumb people say dumb stuff and affect those people's jobs and feelings and their earned money." I've worked in the games industry for a few years as an artist including 3 years at Guerrilla on Killzone 2. I have a pretty good idea of what can be achieved in how long and despite having some of the best looking cars ever in games it's pretty clear that a lot of the environments are ropey at best. Look at the edges of the rally tracks, flat blocky planes in the same style that Sega Rally used in 1996. The Rome track that supposedly took 3 years to make- low poly geometry, blurry stretched textures and misaligned UVs. And need I mention those Playstation 1 style cruciform trees that everyone else stopped using 2 generations ago? The game is a disappointment because millions of people expected it to blow everything else away and most of us still living in reality with some idea of how games are made are wondering what they did for 5 years and where that $60 million actually went. All that said I'd still give it a 9/10 because it does the driving so well, especially with my G25. But that's the point this guy (and yes, he's a douche) is trying to make I think. Even though the actual driving is brilliant it's not the game a lot of people expected and has many annoying flaws and irritations. People pointing out such and such a game that got 4/10 are missing the point because no-one was getting excited over those games in the first place!
"I've got one for you. If i select a race but I'm not currently using the correct car why do I have to navigate all the way back through the menus to my garage and then swap cars before going back through all the menus AGAIN just to get back to the race select screen? An intelligent game designer would recognise this as a frustrating problem and offer to let you change cars as soon as the game said you needed to." Obviously you DON'T have the game, otherwise you would know that once your on the race select screen you can just click the race. if you don't have the proper car, you can just click garage on the popup and choose the car...nice try though
Oh, please then, enlighten us of how this game should have been or as a matter of fact, a perfect driving game should be like. how would you develop a racing game, what else can you add to it besides cars, graphics, and improved gameplay? i really wanna see your opinion. why did people stop appreciating what they get and started bitching about every single small unimportant detail ? besides, you keep talking like im a warrior for the ps3, i said i have both consoles and i play mostly halo now, but, this game deserves much better than some pricks who think that if they wish something in a game it can magically happen. i bought a racing sim game, wasnt expecting much, the menu is annoying oh man, didn't know that pressing buttons on a controller was so hard to do. hit the gym or train your fingers and there, your menu problem is solved. and please, stop contradicting yourself, stating this game wasnt what people were expecting than saying "All that said I'd still give it a 9/10 because it does the driving so well " and " Even though the actual driving is brilliant " for crying out loud this is a driving sim game, what the hell do you expect? since the driving was so " well " and " brilliant " that's it, case closed, nothing matters, cuz in racing sim games believe it or not, gameplay is about driving the cars... maybe your job at creating an fps game made you believe every game that's being made should have some guns in it. i bought a driving game, and a driving game is what i got, a damn good driving game. and btw integrity |inˈtegritē| noun 1 the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness : he is known to be a man of integrity. the reviewer only says the bad things in this game, and then says it's the best racing sim out there, and then moves to it's the most disappointing game of 2010 i mean, why not mention everything good and bad? saying, graphics is good is a thing we all knew years ago, what makes them stop at that and say oh no, i couldnt get out of the car and steal that car.
of corse if they wanted to make it more real theyd have done no walls and run a crash scale maybe make you have to miss x number of hours of gameplay as you recover from a crash.. that would be more rpg wouldnt it, perhaps they should have made it delete your save if you died in a crash or going over a wall... but they didnt because that would be anally retentive , its an aprochable sim with a learning curve you cant review it without completing it, its not fair
xyn3dy Just noticed that myself so came back to edit that out of my comment! Unfortunately the 'edit' option has disappeared so I'll just apologise for that part and admit I'm wrong! (and feel a little bit more stupid than I did before)
Sure I'll reply. My perfect racing game would take the good points from all existing racing games and either match or improve on them. Since GT4 was already at the top of the pile I would expect GT5, after a 5 year wait, to be significantly improved. I would expect the tracks and standard cars to receive a graphical overhaul also to bring them at least to a similar resolution on the exterior to the Premium cars. Car damage should be there and visible. Other games have managed it for years- GTR, GT Legends, Grid, Dirt, Colin Macrae 2 on the Playstation 1! I don't want to hit invisible walls or plastic tape with the strength of a steel girder, it breaks the illusion of reality- something that the GT series prides itself on so in my perfect game tape would break when i hit it allowing me to run off the track and perhaps face a time penalty. Oh yes, CM2 did that as well. 10 years ago. "i bought a racing sim game, wasnt expecting much," You weren't expecting much? Really? Sorry, I think you're straight out lying there. I bought GT5. I was expecting A LOT. I was expecting the greatest racing game ever, more than that I was expecting it to destroy the competition in every single category. Does it? I don't think so, do you? "the menu is annoying oh man, didn't know that pressing buttons on a controller was so hard to do." No-one said it was hard, they said it was annoying and unintuitive. GT4's menu was much better. Don't be childish. "and please, stop contradicting yourself" No contradiction. It's one of the best racing games ever made. But because it has so many flaws it disappoints still. This is not just my opinion but the opinion of many, see metacritic. "hat's it, case closed, nothing matters, cuz in racing sim games believe it or not, gameplay is about driving the cars... " Sure, to racing sim enthusiasts. But GT5 is supposed to sell consoles. It's supposed to appeal to everybody across the board in order to persuade them to part with their money and so it should get the whole package right. This is why Sony invested so much time and money into it. Getting online should not feel so clunky and archaic. My perfect racing game would give you the kind of online options that FIFA 11 has! See? Brilliant. "maybe your job at creating an fps game made you believe every game that's being made should have some guns in it." Yeah, another mature and well reasoned response. Are you 13? I love Gran Turismo, I've been playing it since the first. Judging by the way you write you were probably still an infant when that came out. I bought a G25 steering wheel JUST to play this game! (3 years ago...who knew how long it would take!)
Oh come on, do i look 13? at least give me one or two years above that, be reasonable dude. yea, i guess when you bought GT5 you were expecting to solve world hunger or something, cuz all i was expecting was a good racing game. anyways, im done arguing with a user named stagga, seeing that i'm only 13 years old. seems like i got puberty ahead of me, can't wait.
Another idiot that says its the best driving game in the industry but gives it a 7.5? Yeah I cant wait for the next forza game. Bet it will get a free pass.
lol a website named zoopy
IGN REVIEW (CLOSING COMMENTS): "Gran Turismo 5 is a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game..." THIS REVIEW: "As a game on it’s own, it’s pretty average. But as far as the actual driving goes, it’s on top of it’s game." That reads like reworded plagiarism to me...
I think most publications have picked up that any negative article around the title will be extreme flamebait -> hits!! You dont have to love it, I just have a question though. Have you played like 2 games this year? 7.5/10 is your biggest dissapointment? :/ The title begs for hits, doesnt it.
Well, what did he expect? First of all it´s called GT5 "the real driving simulator" Not "Call of GT" or "GT5 Effect". If I was a game journalist and where abaut to review for example a flight simmulator, would I give it lower score because you could not mount a knife to your f16 and knife down your enemies? I Love this game, and yes, its just like GT1 - GT4, but i loved them as well, just because they where the most competent DRIVING SIMULATORS ever made. Forza is not a bad simulator but that game is more a video game. GT5 are for us racing fans. GT5 for example is not a platformer, fps, rpg etc. Its a Driving Simulator. Review it for what it is and not what you want it to be.
Who finds these no name useless websites? every exclusive that gets launched there will always be some idiot who has no life search the internet for every bad review of said game just to feel cool.
This guy is an idiot. I've been playing all day and couldn't disagree more. GT5 is suffering tall poppy syndrome. A lot of people feel like taking it down a few pegs but it's classic GT and I'm loving it.
this website is not even in metacritic... just to get hits i see...
This "review" is something like a bad joke.
So a game that caters to a specific, 'hardcore,' fanbase is a disappointment? Interesting. I'll keep that in mind, the next time people bitch about how gaming is getting too casual.
And they aren't eligible for MetaCritic's database, so...
*sigh* Another "journalist" weighs in. So this is a great sim, but not a good arcade racer... wow. The casual inmates have taken over the gaming asylum.
We really should not be shocked after what Sony did to gt for psp. I played gt5 yesterday and its a ok sim racing game but nothing to be stunned about really. -- Sometimes good things dont come to those who wait afterall---
Ya this game really didn't live up to the hype. The graphics weren't as good as the trailers. Seems like they did a bit of a Killzone thing by doctoring the trailers. I mean how can they spend 60 million and still have pixilated shadows...sooo fail. Also the load times are not that great either and really break the flow of the game. I mean in GT 5 you just wanna go from race to race freely, but in between you run into a brick wall of a loading screen. Definitely not worth the 60 million and all the delays. Would've been better if they released it first time without having support for 3D and all that other eyetoy crap.
A unknown site trying to get hits by saying one of the biggest racering games is a disappoint. Yeah right, being able to race or make a driver an tell him how to race, build my own tracks, music my not be epic but I can listin to my own music while playing. Yeah this guy know's nothing about GT, because if he did he would have known the menu is pretty much like older GT games (Talking more of the lines the menu before the race).
This guy calls himself a gamer ?? He looks more a playboy, looking for attention. I only take opinions of players and developers. Ignored. More amateurs bash GT5 the more it will sell. Serious people don't like that attitude.
[in falsetto voice] but..but..Forza did it in 2 year's.lol Mommy, GT5 failed.. Forza is the definitive racer this gen..based on IGN!..lol can we give it a freaking rest already..we get it it seems reviewers want to now grade every other game based on what the closest IP offered by another company..instead of what the previous ver. of the game an it's quality vs what the new ver's is. yup got it..that's like saying Well GT is too static, and need's to change..well that's great why don't you as an artist create something yourself instead of ragging on someone elses art..Here's an IDEA GT is GT not other Racer's. that's the freaking Point that's like going in to an art Museum and ragging on art you never had a hand in making yourself, the artist is not you, have you ever stopped and enjoy the art for what it is instead of what other artist's vision trying to compare someone's art to another? pathetic critic's like i need a critic to tell me what a good game is. or it seems everyone wants to be a critic today. disagree all you want , remember for every disagree your making this statement that less true: Forza is the definitive racer this gen..based on IGN!..lol just having a little fun people.
what a twat. There is nothing wrong with the menu system, you scroll to an option and click it, what more could you possibly have than that? Also they say it's the best simulator, but not the best game... God of War 3 should have been a 4 at max then, it's a very good action game but overall as a game it's too short... the same logic applies. Anyway you heard it folks, he even said (as have all the other reviews) GT5 is still the best driving sim out there in consoles, just people will nit pick the menu choices (which aren't that bad IMO anyway).
This review seems... off. But I doubt the score is far off from being in the right range.
it's all about the car's...that's what GT's always been about, this is not an arcade racer, it's made to enjoy the auto manf. created work's..yes you can tune them but the point is the enviroments are not GT's main target. Your not playing Enviroments..yes there is weather effect's and damage is not unlocked until later...the point is GT is about the car's always have been always will be. and like any artist that's his creation he is the director not you. since it's inception an after 50 million + copy's sold world wide for his creative vision of the GT series of game's is what he an his team have brought for people to enjoy. if your not enjoying it Time to move on. it's his Vision not what you think it should be. it is what it is because he an his team created it not you.
People are still gonna buy it. The majority of reviews were positive
Most of you are like me, except you are ridiculously immature - You waited for years for this game and now that it is awful, you want to rage on every critic that tells you that it is awful. This reviewer is not jumping on the proverbial 'bandwagon', he is just telling it like it is. For those of you that think critics don't know what they are talking about and you should rather judge for yourself - Keep wasting you money on poor games. GT5 is 60 million dollars poorly spent. (SIGH)
So this is more disappointing than FF14?
Metroid Other M is biggest disappointment of 2010, not GT5
You people have forgotten that "Any publicity is publicity". This site is obviously looking for hit's in anyway possible, so they state something BOLD, put in a review and enjoy the hits. From my own opinion, GT5 is what it should be, a hardcore racing sim dedicated to Cars, Tracks and Racing, it's a great game and I'm loving it so far, but everyone has their own opinion.. :/