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Black Ops kills PS3 Classics

PS3-Sense writes: "The PS3-version of Black Ops already had a lot of problems, crashing PS3's, framedrops and freezes. Now it seems that a lot of people, who own a PS3 Classic, got their PS3 killed while they were playing Call of Duty: Black Ops."

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PELVIC THRUST ACTION4967d ago

Lots of people's PS3s die playing call of duty. Does it have anything to do with the fact that the particular game killed their PS3 or the fact that they just happened to play Call of Duty while their PS3 died? Most likely for ten hours after a huge CoD Multiplayer binge.

zootang4967d ago

Fifa 11 gets the same treatment in the UK

NeoBasch4967d ago (Edited 4967d ago )

Just thought I'd warn you guys. My 80Gig PS3 (bought back when Uncharted 1 and Heavenly Sword came out) died after downloading and installing firmware for Modern Warfare 2 combined with Sony's firmware. This happened sometime in January earlier this year I believe. Black Ops uses the same engine.

I won't let Black Ops touch my Slim.

ian724967d ago

My original 60gig PS3 died last night, (YLOD) while turning off NFS:Shift. Little pissed about it but Sony are replacing it again (3rd time) for free. Will be recieving my refurb tomorrow (Friday). Taking less than 2 days for a refurb unit. Glad I will have another one in time for GT5. Was a little worried it wouldn't get here in time for GT5's release but it will.
Anyhow, PS3's breaking while playing COD:BO will happen as its the most played game so its no suprise. Its not the game thats the problem, its coincidense, its just 'cause thats the main game people are playing now. As I said above mine broke with NFS:shift. My last one broke playing Godfather. (coincidense is what it is).

PSFan1004967d ago

My 80bg PS3 broke down today, my original 60gb got YLOD. I'm a PS fan (hence the name) but i'm very annoyed at the moment. I won't be purchasing another ps3. I'm going to wait till the PS4 launch. I will repair the 80bg with some 60bg parts, just hope it holds out. *Sigh* just when GT5 comes out! grrr

NeoBasch4967d ago (Edited 4967d ago )

I'm pretty sure mine wasn't a coincidence. A lot of people reported the same thing the day of the firmware update. Matter of fact, this site had an article on it that listed the one's typically breaking down after the update. Mostly older models were affected: the 20, 60, and 80 Gig models.

Either way you look at it, it was an accident. I'm not even for sure what exactly happened, but it was not a hardware failure. I know this much as I'm still able to turn it on and reset my hard drive. I just sucked it up and bought a slim, which got stolen yesterday, sadly.

Now I'm without a PS3. It sucks big time. It was my entertainment hub. :(

Regardless, if the systems found, or I pick up, God forbid, another unit, I'm not letting Black Ops touch it in fear that it will screw up that system too. I'm superstitious like that. ; )

Blitzed4967d ago

How did you get it replaced for free?

BISHOP-BRASIL4967d ago

I already posted this logic here before but I'll do it again: 3 to 5% of all PS3 bought will fail within one year. That's the industry standard which PS3 is well within.

People seen to don't realise how much this mean, let's do some math...

It looks like PS3 sold around 250k this last October. From all those consoles, let's say 4%, will fail sometime from november 2010 to october 2011. That's 10 thousand consoles dieing just because they would anyway.

Now, one year is maybe just too widespread to some figure out the coincidence with any date. Let's make a projection with October as if it's representative and project it to yearly sales in US (I know it isn't... or it is... I don't know, it's just for give this some perspective).

If PS3 sell 3 million per year (250k per month) in US and we suppose those are equally sold thoughout the year, that's a little above 8k consoles per day. If we suppose that those consoles would fail in a stead rate instead of randomly throughout a year, it means we have 320 consoles dieing per day just in USA.

Now, we know those consoles don't fail on stead rates, neigher they sell in constant rates too. Probably they have a tendency to fail within some point in it's life and, combined with projection for months with more sales (holiday), it's more than possible that some given time within the year there are more consoles dieing. Also, we poorly project it over US numbers, and quite low ones, you can think of how many PS3 per day will die if we project it over, let's underestimate, 10m PS3 sold WW in one year?

The fact is, probably we can see a thousand PS3 around the world will fail in any given day, and that's just because it sells a lot (a DVD or a TV is well within the same numbers if it sells the same ammount) not because of some inherent flaw. Now, if the given day had anything uncommon, that's what people will point ourt as the more reasonable source of the problem. They aren't wrong, they are being logical, but they aren't seeing the bigger picture.

Let's say tomorrow is one of those days in a busy month for Sony's repair department, projecting those bigger sales of holiday and the point in life those 3~5% will fail would give us many consoles die on the November 19th. Let's say 5 thousand PS3 die tomorrow. And today we had an FW update or a new game launch which is very popular. We all would think that updated killed our PS3s, but it could as well be a common November 19th when many PS3 fails every year. You guess which one would be a head liner here tomorrow.

NeoBasch4967d ago

I see what you're saying, but what you're neglecting is which units were affected. Now let's pretend each PS3 that falls between that 4% failure rate has an average lifetime of about a year. I bought mine back around September-October 2007, close to a year after launch. It failed the beginning of 2010. You do the math.

Now when this firmware hit, thousands of systems went down: bricked. Each one, YLOD. Let's also throw out the fact that the number of those affected went far beyond the average. Tens of thousands possibly. Granted, this was within the week, but even so. 7,000 does not equal 10,000+ units.

As I said earlier, there was an article covering the story. Most units that were affected were old 60 Gig units. There were some 20 gigs (the oldest unit), and then there was mine (the 80 gig MotorStorm bundle PS3's), which hardly got hit. None of the slims or models from 2008 and beyond were affected.

Everyone reported the same problem. The console stopped shortly after installing the update. My friend updated the game on my system, and then not but 10 minutes after, while I was watching a trailer of FFXIII I got from the PSN store, boom! Lights out.

That day, you should of saw the outcry. Activision even released a statement on it if I remember right.

I would typically agree with what you wrote here, but, when there's just that big of a gap from the average and the fact that limited units were affected that should have already been dead if we go by their calculated life time, I just can't brush it away.

Trust me. I wish it was just a coincidence, but the truth is I don't trust that specific engine anymore. It's just like when my PS3 got stolen the other day. I contacted all my neighbors, friends, and family wondering if perhaps they might have borrowed my PS3 and forgot to tell me. That wasn't the case. I explored the house and found out someone broke in through a window and made off with a $1,000+ dollars of equipment. I really wanted to believe that someone else just borrowed it and forgot to clean up the room, but...

The truth is, some people just aren't willing to accept responsibility. And I understand why, but I'm just a lot more cautious now. I'll be damned if I'm fooled again. Besides, I have a 360 I can play Black Ops on. :p No harm done.

ian724966d ago (Edited 4966d ago )

Got my refurb PS3 today, which is great.
@Blitzed,
I am assuming I have got my last 2 refurbs for free as the first one cost £145. I'm hoping this one lasts me now I'm on my 4th one. I do keep them clean and well ventilated, none of them has had even 1 scratch on them. Just seem to be a little unlucky, although I have used them a lot, I have over 80 games on blu-ray and played 1000's of hours.
P.S. I have to wait around 5-6 weeks to get NFS:Shift disc back, which was stuck inside.

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Igneel4967d ago

Same can be said about getting the Rrod.

rdgneoz34967d ago

Except only one counts towards sales figures.

GlobalSoldier4967d ago

I was playing the game for just 5 minutes and then my PS3 died;)

joydestroy4967d ago

i have a PS3 classic and it's not dead yet. eventually i expect it to die before the next wave of consoles get released simply because i use it for movies/netflix. i go to sleep every night with my console on. i'd be using my 360 instead if it had an auto shut off feature that was less than 6hrs. not sure why they didn't fix that with the latest dashboard update =/

MariaHelFutura4967d ago

You should go to sleep watching TVs, it`s not good for your brain and the PS3 has an Auto-off. and yeah, the 6 hours shutdown on 360 is something that should have been fixed A LONG time ago, consider the console is prone to overheating and having problems in general.

joydestroy4967d ago

i don't actually watch the tv when i go to sleep lol the noise just helps me fall asleep easier.

i use the auto off on PS3, that's why i was saying i use it over my 360. i think i might get a timer for the 360 plug though and just set it for a certain time at night no matter what and it'll shut off. not sure if that will damage the console though

THEONEANDONLY854967d ago

why not listen to the radio? Or do what I do turn on Pandora on my phone while it charges and sleep to that.

WhittO4967d ago (Edited 4967d ago )

I have a "classic" 60gb and its loads better than my new Slim! Wish I just kept that instead now.

My old phat launch 60gb was quieter, had memory card readers, 4 usb ports (which i actually use more than 2 now I have more peripherals etc), not to mention full B/C with PS2/PS1 games.

As for certain game breaking certain models of ps3's, I dont buy it. I mean, every game is identical and every ps3 can play it at the exact same level, the only difference is there is less heat given off on the slim due to smaller parts. That doesn't mean just because the game is taxing it breaks the parts in the phat because the slim is more powerful parts lol.

It's more probable that the ps3's overheated due to alot of dirt/dust build up over the years.
Since the ps3 probably gets really hot inside when playing BO since it was poorly developed and pushes the GPU to the max, dumping most of the load on that instead of spreading the load to the other SPU's etc, making it very hot and if there is a build-up of dust etc combined with degradation of thermal transfer paste... (which btw is meant to be the main cause of YLOD)

Terarmzar4967d ago

my classic ps3 died a couple months ago while playing God of war collections for like 15 minutes.
Then i fixed it myself and broke again a week later then a couple days later i fixed again and has worked since.
Its not particular game that breaks the console
Games may cause errors but thats about it.

Kleptic4967d ago

My 60gb died in early june when i decided to start playing GTAIV again...put 30 hours or so into it, and the fan was running like never before haha (it was right around the release of RDR)...but it technically died when installing a demo for mod nation racers...

Since then I had been using a friends slim, who didn't have broadband at his place, and just left it at mine...but finally am getting around to getting it replaced...

I know what killed mine; i had it in a new entertainment center with not so great ventilation...and ever since I put it in there I heard the fan running like never before...saw it coming, but was too annoyed to do anything about it because it would have been such a pain to put anywhere else...

but the general consensus is that early PS3's are bound to go eventually...which is why I'm up in the air on what to do...as when you send in a 60gb you are offered a refurbished 60gb with warranty, or a brand new 120gb slim for $30 less...there is no question that the slims will be more reliable because of the smaller die cpu and gpu and less heat...but I hate the lack of BC on newer ps3's...even though i NEVER use it...

I don't really care about the card readers because A, i have a USB one for my old desktop that will work with the PS3 anyway...and B, I stream everything to and from my PS3 over my network in the first place...SACD is a dead format entirely, i've never even seen one haha...so I don't care about losing that as well...

I might go with a slim as it obviously works safely in the current entertainment system i have...actually looks better in there too...and i've never once heard it do anything other than when I load a disc...Even the Sony rep was like 'most guys go with the slim, i'm not supposed to say this, but it will most likely last a whole lot longer than another 60gb'...

oh well...I need one, as this dude is taking his back for GT5...

WhittO4967d ago

If i were you i would definitely get the slim.

If your 60gb has overheated to the point of not working, they will replace the one thing that gave way, but there may be further damage that will start to make problems later on.

Also, Slims are meant to be really reliable so getting that will probably be that last thing you have to pay for years until the next gen roles around.

I got a slim and have to say its alot louder than I thought and doesn't look as good as my 60gb, but as long as it works and is reliable that's all that matters in the end, and its not THAT loud, just a higher pitch sound to the fans and I sit quite close.

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Pwnage2u4967d ago

a story about this whenever a new game comes out or firmware.

TOO PAWNED4967d ago

COD like no other games "eats" your console. That disk keeps on spinning like crazy, non stop. I wish there was some sort of install. Its not good for your console, and its same with every cod

FACTUAL evidence4967d ago

Most people's ps3 was on the verge of dying anyway. It just o happened that they were playing CODBO. The ame dam story was said about COD4....People were just playing the hell out of their ps3s.....

Big Frank4967d ago

Bu bu bu bu, i thought according to posters on N4G, PS3s were invincible?!?!!? Ha Ha Ha. It costs a lot to fix, i know, because all my friends PS3s have died, just as many as the 360s. 360 owners are lucky they have 3 year warranties on the classic consoles. Enjoy paying for those repairs boys, bad karma for slagging the 360 so much. lolololol!

house4967d ago (Edited 4967d ago )

is because i would play it about 4 or 5 hours a day and not to mention every time me and my friends came over they would ask me to bring it over and that was another 7 to ten hours and i had the 60gb ps3 so it had alot of miles how many 360s can you say played that many hours not many