Innovation Sony Might Be Envying Right Now: ‘Kinect’

With the holidays just around the corner everyone wants to experience the hottest gaming trend around. PlayStation Move had a slight advantage over Kinect due to its earlier release date. With both Kinect and Move out in the market, who will bring home the bacon this season and be crowned the King of motion controlled gaming?

[Balt]

Kinect is 80% inconsistent with my hands on time with it in my good friends living room of 15x15. Which is a small apartment. It just doesn't work.

[Chupa-Chupa]

Please don't take this the wrong way..But do you happen to have a year round tan?

[Game-ur]

Sony is Envying 500 million in marketing not 10 year old "Innovation"

[Reibooi]

Yeah Sony basically created Kinect when they made the Eye Toy LONG ago for PS2. The only difference is they didn't spend half a billion dollars on a ad campaign.

Seems that the populace are nothing but sheep and can't buy something unless a stupid commercial or ad tells them to.

[piroh]

people used to forget the Eyetoy for PS2

anyway, i don't think MS is happy right now because of 500 mil of marketing and not so big sales

[MrMccormo]

People forget that both Sony and Nintendo were approached by Kinect's designers, and both said "no". The 360 was Kinect's third choice.

[captain-obvious]

LOL @ topic

[Zydake]

IMO Sony has to put a comercial up during a big event during December airing the PEW PEW (if it was aired I apologize) with that it will make the consumers realize WTF am I buying? No buttons!?!? But that's my IMO

[ct03]

Haha, it's so cute how people keep throwing around the $500m marketing budget as if Microsoft somehow "cheated".

This isn't a game, you know? There is no cheating.

[nveenio]

Because of Microsoft's ad campaign, they're going to have a harder time turning a profit. I think people will get bored of Kinect over the next 12 months, and 2011's holiday season will see Kinect on clearance.

[PSFan100]

It's not innovation because it's already been done before, Kinetic can be considered only as an upgrade and not an actual innovative product. Like others above me have said it's very inconsistent, voice command is awful.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

invenio

Actually $500 million in advertising is paid for once Kinect hits 5 million. They cost to make the system is only $50, a very nice margin - funny they didn't sell it for less.

Of course I'm neglecting the R&D and acquisitions, etc. Still I wouldn't say more than 7-10 million. And that $500 is the budget for now through 2011. A lot of money, too much money...but certainly recoup-able.

[Millah]

Wow, look at this idiots "cons" for the Move. APPARENTLY, Move costs $120 and doesn't include a game. While Kinects $150 price tag is a "bargain." Wow, I'm literally shaking my head.

Going further down the list of his cons, Its pretty clear that this guy is a complete moron.

[No Way]

Source, please? Not only do I think you talkin out your ass.
But, if true, could be an interesting read, so..

[MikeGdaGod]

here ya go buddy

http://n4g.com/news/569064/...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

alot of companies could've had Kinect....MS were the only ones that wanted it, everyone else said no thanks......

[AAACE5]

If Kinect and Eyetoy can do the same thing, why aren't most of those games being released for Ps3? MS only has exclusivity over a few of those titles! Kinect has 2 cameras while Eyetoy has 1. How can they perform the same way when one has a noticable difference over the other?

Don't say because Sony doesn't want the games on the Ps3, because every console is trying to get every game it can!

Also, If Eyetoy had all the capabilities of Kinect, why did they never capitolize on it? Why has Eyetoy only found a good use with Move?

[k2d]

Well said! +bubble

[k2d]

Well said! +bubble 2u2

[eraursls84]

AAACE5, you realize that the eyetoy is for the ps2 not the ps3, that's why these games aren't made for the eyetoy.

[RedDead]

The idea is innovation, the technolody is not. It doesn't work properly.

[Agent-86]

I'm really surprised that the space limitations wasn't included in the Kinect cons section. Also laughed how they put games in the pro section: "Kinect has introduced a lot of games that are fresh and original". That's a joke, right? They all seem to be dancing, fitness, and mini-game collections: weren't all these already done to death on the Wii? Especially since they put games in the con category for the Move: "We’ve already experienced lackluster titles like this on the Wii". They also mention lighting issues for the Move, but not the Kinect? This is just another biased article to ignore.

[zetsuei1]

but i think i hardly saw anything non-biased from there.

It's just that sad.

[Ju]

Direct quotes:

PS3 Con:

Pricing – Its going to set you back around $120, which includes 1 controller, 1 navigation controller and the Sony Eye (Camera). (this price does not include a game)

--
Kinect Pro:

Pricing – At $149.99 including a game, Kinect is a bargain. This is going to be a huge factor in determining what peripheral families will be purchasing this holiday season.

/End Quote

Are you f.cking kidding me?

First of all, this is a plain lie. The Move starter bundle comes with (!) a game and everything you need for $99.

And how is $149 a great deal, when $120 is a bad one. Just don't get it. In these days, even hard fact numbers can be "interpreted" any way you want. Crazy times.

If this goes on, marketing will eliminate our ability to think.

[SIdepocket]

@ Ju

Apparently you can't do math then. Even if you get the Move bundle @ $99, you're still out at least $70 to get the second controller. Kinect costs $150 and supports two players AND includes a game (and a much better one that the Move Sports game to boot) .

Sounds like a bargain to me.

[tigertom53]

Ok in my opinion the device is really sweet for what it does, I got it a few days ago for dance central it works really well, and most people would pay that price just for that game if it was a peripheral from Harmonix no different then rock-band or guitar hero which you could pay 200 or more for. I have a 10 by 11 room and it works fine have mine mounted 6 feet on the wall. I can see for just a second that it my be somewhat like an eye toy or vision cam, but it never really worked and it sucked balls, Kinect works well have had very to no issues play games with me, my wife or my daughter who is 4. Voice commands work 96% percent of the time and will only recognize the person that is in control, it will ignore any one else, maybe that is the reason some people have had troubles or maybe it was not calibrated correctly. you talk about light issues I have not had any no mater what i have tried maybe if you you shine a spot light or have the suns rays right on the camera it might not work but who is smart enough have that setup like that. Im a big FPS and Action gamer and would never want to play these games with a motion control just give my my controller please but clearly they made Kinect not for these hard core games but for party and family play to compete with Wii to increases sales, and it looks like that is working how can complain that the want more sales of consoles and to increase there profit margins, unless your a ps3 lover and dont want xbox to be successful in heavy sales.
update cons for the device or update for future device would be higher resolution cam.

[k2d]

Well said! +bubble

[Ju]

SIdepocket, $70...another lie. The second Move costs you $49, which then make it even with Kinect (in fact, it makes it a couple of cents cheaper, to be exact). Two players can play all (!) games which are included in the start bundle.

"a much better one that the Move Sports game"

And this is an opinion, which I can accept, but might not agree with.

[SIdepocket]

@ Ju

It's not a lie, dumbass. If you don't buy the Navigator, you can't play all of the games that Move supports. That brings the price of each controller to $80.

Please remove the Move controller from your rectum before replying, okay?

[Odin777]

@sidepocket Actually you can use your dualshock in place of the Nav controller if you so wish. And enough with the fuckin' dildo jokes, jesus.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Move cost me 50$. Had the cam and use the DS as a nav. Can you bring Kinect home for 50$?

Please use the gray matter between your ears before replying. Unless you want to continue looking like an idiot.

[SIdepocket]

@UnwanteDreamz

The subject here is the question of whether Move is a better bargain. Here's the math since you seem to not be able to add yourself:

By the time you buy two full Move controllers @ $80, a camera for $30, and a game on top of that, you are WELL over the asking price of $150 for Kinect (which supports two players). Even if you forgoe the Navigator, with a cam and two controllers and game, you are still over the price of the MS controller.

I guess your Move controller went straight up your anus as well (which is likely since you apparently weren't smart enough to buy a game) .

[Ju]

Simple answer: No.

Stop making sh!t up - and refrain from personal attacks. Thx.

[theXfactor]

for people who don't own a ps3:
ps3 move bundle- $399.99. includes DS 3 controller, Eye camera, Sports Champions, and 320gb ps3 console

for people who don't own a 360:
xbox 360 kinect bundle- $299.99. includes kinect, 4gb xbox 360 console, wireless controller, headset, and kinect adventures.
OR
$399.99 for the same things except a 250gb hard drive rather than a 4 gb one.

for people who own a PS3:
Move starter pack: $99.99. includes Eye camera, sports champions, and ps move controller.
Extra move controller- $49.99 (optional)
total- $149.98

for people who own a 360:
kinect- $149.99. includes kinect and kinect adventures

The kinect is only a "bargain" for extremely casual gamers who are not planning on downloading anything to their hard drives.Other than that,they both end up costing about the same, but the Move is the better product imo. so that makes it a better bargain for me.
Edit: there is no need for the navigation controller, a DS 3 could also be used. Also take into account that some people already own the Eye Camera and they can get move for as low as $50-$130 (depending on if they buy a nav controller and a second move or not)

[UnwanteDreamz]

Poor sidepocket can't keep up with his own arguement so he repeats himself and makes as* jokes. I know what you wrote and it was an incomplete thought buddy. I like how you call into question math skills when you your self must have never learned to count. I bought Move for 50$

50$ is less than 150$ you f*cking moron. Even if you went to the worst public school in the worst part of America you should be able to grasp that idea. You can spin the arguement however you want but for me the better value was 50$. The camera was bought for 25 dollars used at gamestop over a year before Move came out. Then that means I had 100$ to spend on games.

Try again kid.

[SIdepocket]

@ UnwanteDreamz

Dude, you don't even HAVE an argument, let alone know how to spell it. Sure you can take home a Move controller for $50, but what good does that do you? No game to play it with, and no camera to use it with. $150 dollars might be more for Kinect, but it gets you EVERYTHING YOU NEED. For two players to have Move controllers and a game and camera, IT'S MORE MONEY.

A bargain means getting more for your money, not how little you need to spend.

[Ju]

"IT'S MORE MONEY."

Again, no. Doesn't make it true if you shout it.

Look at theXfactor post. He does the math for you.

149.98 < 149.99 (let's be bean counters here) - this is for the exact same experience (two players, all you need incl. a game - I could agree on an "equal" part, but "more" is simply wrong).

And, please. Nav is an option. You know, like an option to play games which you cannot play on Kinect at all. e.g. RTS or shooters (available now, e.g. Ruse, RE5 and MAG).

[TreMillz]

Innovation. I swear this term gets thrown around loosely now of days...

[MeatPopsicle]

No, the Xbox fanboy who wrote this article is using the word 'innovation' correctly:

Innovation
noun:

1. To rip off 10 year old tech from a competitor by buying similar tech from a company everyone else in the industry passed on because it sucked so hard.

[BabyTownFrolics]

and if I pull my coffee table out of the way I can get the 8 feet needed for 2 players. Maybe you should return it or sell it.

Also I love how everyone hates Kinect, at this point its damn funny.

So far 2 disagrees in two minutes, thats the stuff, keep it coming.

now its 3 disagrees in 6 minutes

i should mention that I own both Kinect and Move, and I enjoy them both, and I hope they both do well into the future.

4 disagrees in 10 minutes

did I mention I equally enjoy my 360 and PS3, and it feels great being able to play the multiplats on the 360 and the exclusives on the PS3?

5 disagrees in 12 minutes

Oh yeah and even though PSN is free I prefer XBox Live despite the fact that I have to pay for it.

6 disagrees in 13 minutes

thanks guys you've been great

[MaximusPrime]

you deserved it. well done

[ocnkng]

Ya you asked for it lolz

[BabyTownFrolics]

thats nearly a disagree every 2 minutes. I think thats a personal best. I just got bumped from 5 bubbles to 6 last week. So I figured if I'm going to incur the wrath might as well do it sooner than later, I would hate to lose the bubble once I had gotten used to it.

I feel cleansed.

colon cleansed.

[Scotland-The-Brave]

youre bubbles taste great

[SIdepocket]

On N4G if you agree with anything even remotely positive about the Xbox, you get a flood of disagrees. It means you are probably telling the truth. :)

Don't take it personally, it's just a couple of people with multiple accounts.

[Mista T]

why would they envy something they did first

[Genesis5]

Sony already passed on the kinect tech. Why would they be in envy of it?

[IHateYouFanboys]

Nintendo passed on having Sonys CD add-on - which would effectively become the playstation.....tell me they werent envious for the next decade lol.

Sony might have passed on the 3DV cam, but that doesnt mean they wouldnt be envious of Microsofts obvious success with Kinect.

[Pedantic91]

That remains to be seen, does it not ?

[BillOreilly]

Well move(its precise and decent) looks like a wii rip off, a me too. Kinect looks new, innovative, and interesting. Sony is probably pissed that kinect is a smashing success when they abandoned the eyetoy more or less. Sony did a rudamentary for of kinect in 2d and Ms did it beefed up in 3d and its amazing. Ms realized the wii is old, nobody wants another wii, so they did it different. Kinect is good because all the games for it are new and innovative, dev cant tack it on as they will with move. Look at all the games from tgs, so many dev are jumping on with kinect.

[Dark_king]

actually Sony passed on the tech,the original tech was demo on the PS2 awile ago.3dv or something like that I just woke up and can't think right now.

[Moentjers]

@BillOreilly
Dude, are you sure you looked at the kinect game list ? new and innovative ? you can put it next to the Wii launch list. fitness, dance and party. hell yeah.

[EasilyTheBest]

...you are eitier the perfect fanboy troll or you are just stupid or you have been using a faulty Kinect.

Kinect works, I have it and I cant really fault it.
The lag is non existant on the games I have and theres a lot more to the games than people think.
Its fun and everyone who I have shown it too want one they are so impressed.

Just admit it, you havent played Kinect or your just doing your fanboy stuff.

[JsonHenry]

Eh. I think all this motion controller stuff is gonna flop. But IF they mix Kinect WITH traditional gamepad (kinda like the DS) they might be able to make some killer games for it.

However, my bet is that it will all flop and we can finally go back to who has more horsepower under the hood like the good old days.

[PS360fanboy]

Judging from yesterday's sony's patent, I'd say they are...

[_DragonSlayer_]

Hahahahahahahahahaha "taking in big breath" Hahahahahahahahahaha "Games – Kinect has introduced a lot of games that are fresh and original. The hardware is to thank for all of these original games." Hahahahaha..Sorry I couldn't help myself at that comment....

[Daver]

I'm pretty sure that Sony know what they are doing... I dont think they are envying anything to anyone

[Christopher]

How can they envy 'innovation' that they started? People do know that Microsoft bought the company that did Sony's camera-based technology R&D, right?

They're envying Microsoft's success with the product and how they've marketed it, but not the 'innovation'.

[aceitman]

a guy i worked with bought a 360 kinect bundle they had problems playing it cause of space they where trying to make it work and then it happened the 360 died on him i had to laugh at that . thinking how many people are going to go through the same thing he took it back and got a ps3 move bundle he and his family love it sports champion and start the party is what he has ...kinect may get a big start because of the 500 million ads and ohprah and ellen show but at the end it will go down just like the playstation eye on ps2 it wasnt enough to keep intrest u need a controller in ur hand thats y sony passed on kinect and kept working on psmove to work and that was before the wii all in all wake up if ur a ms 360 fanboy im not a fanboy i just like to get my game on i have the ps move and the kinect a few great games for the move some are not good . kinect dance central is good kinectimals is ok but the rest are not me and my family still play the move but where kinda tired of the kinect hope they have something soon that we can really enjoy cause it may be a trade or put for sale if it doesnt get better or work good y there is some issues with the kinect if u dont believe me go ahead and and spend 159$ with tax and try for yourself and u will see try both if u dare and see who really keeps the replay going mine is ps move ... i really hope that kinect can come out with some really good games if not i think i have been robbed .

[TEFL0N_D0N_81]

Is Kinect going to outsell Move? Based on the amount of marketing and the target demographic (I'll always prefer couch + controller), probably... Even so, this article is horribly biased and unfair.

I think it's awesome that Sony is backing it's "older" camera tech. People with the PS-Eye won't need to buy it again. It never took away the function of the PS-Eye anyways, it's a simple and very neat add on. And just because the PS-Eye is older tech does not mean the entire Move system is outdated. What a load of crap.

The only con stated for Kinect was its size. Really? That's it?

I'm not even digging into which is better (because they're totally different from each other). But this article is amateur crap.

[Scary69]

I don't know why these lame ass articles keep making it through N4G. I am with Sitlab this piece of crap is inconsistent, I just wish people would wake the freak up and realize it and stop buying into MS lame as gimmick.

[MaximusPrime]

"Envying"? did i hear that right?

lol

i mean, MS wasnt the first to do this hand-free idea. Sony did it with PS2 eye toy and PS eye. Should Sony be envious? i bet they didnt care.

[Agent-86]

First sentence in the article: "With the holidays just around the corner everyone wants to experience the hottest gaming trend around." Everyone? Hardly! The Kinect is a complete joke that I want nothing to do with. I'm really hoping this motion gaming gimmick would just die already. This is just more dumbing down of gaming to appeal to the masses.

[raztad]

The only thing Sony must be envying is to have half a billion to spend in ads.

[soundslike]

haha so true. good thing smart people don't buy things based on ads.

[Close_Second]

...Sony may have had EyeToy but what have they done with it on PS3 prior to Move? Apart from Eye of Judgement and a couple fo other forgettable PSN titles, the PS3Eye (i.e. the PS3 version of the Eyetoy cam) has been nothing but a dust collector.

If Sony is feeling envious (which I doubt) they would have no one but themselves to blame for not doing more with the tech they introduced.

[Omega4]

They must be slapping themselves for passing it up.

@PimpHandHappy
Indeed they do

@Fishy Fingers
I don't get what you mean :s

[PimpHandHappy]

yea both Sony and nintendo are crying over passing up on this tech... They now know what sort of great games can be made for it :-/

[Agent-86]

I don't think Omega4 realized that your comment was sarcastic....at least I hope it was sarcastic because I've yet to see a great game for it.

[Fishy Fingers]

Serious question, although off topic. Is "Omega4" your Kinect account, because it's all I see "you" comment on.

[Pennywise]

Omega, how many times have you made sweet love to your kinect camera today? lol... Shills are funny.

[M4ndat0ry_1nstall]

Down to just one bubble now? You were 5 bubbles like 3 weeks ago, what happened brah?

on-topic:

Sure Sony would obviously be somewhat envious if Kinect proves to be a greater success than MOVE. What company wouldn't? More so for Sony because they have put out similar devices that (let's be honest) were not well received among gamers or developers.

At present though, what would Sony honestly be envious of in terms of Kinect? PS Move has had a great start in the marketplace shifting around 3 million units. With the upcoming holidays Sony are more likely to be cracking open a bottle of bubbly than turning green with envy.

[Otheros00]

reason: you always say that kinect is new and innovative on every kinect article you are on.

LOL!!!

Edit: Forgot one thing.
STOP ADVERTISING FOR M$ EVEN IF YOU ARE PAID BY THEM!!!!

[cochise313]

there's a reason you have one bubble.

[rrw]

Pricing - depending on you need price can be 50 - 180 (i am not sure about this) your barely need more than 1 move controller.

Move is already outdated - really move is improvement of wii have 1:1 accuracy that even "more advance" kinect don't have

Lack of original games - anybody seen tumble, eyepet or Kung Fu Rider in wii ?

Lighting issues - same thing goes to kinect

at least can this site have bit research please

[Agent-86]

The pricing argument is a joke: "Pricing – At $149.99 including a game, Kinect is a bargain". A bargain? Simply unbelievable!

[MeatPopsicle]

What else does the Xbox fanboy who wrote this crap have to hype for the Xbox 360?

Another Gears of War coming out a year from now?

[Gue1]

just look at his cons and pros. The Move's only pro is 1080p gaming? What about the precision, easier implementation to core games, etc. And its con is that it is outdated, what?

And the pros for Kinnect is that is fun? Come on! The Move is fun too!

I don't think this article could be more ridiculous and misleading.

[MaximusPrime]

try archery on Kinect. (if there is one) is it precise? i doubt it.

[Stealth20k]

nintendo is the king of motion controlled gaming

[Kos-Mos]

Only poeple that thinks killzone is a great game playing with erhm..hehe...fzzz...move disagree with you.

[jizzyjones]

Innovation? but, its Kinect a fancy eyetoy?

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Lol.

The article have a lot of things that doesn't makes sense.

[VenomProject]

This "innovation" already happened...YEARS ago.

Keep up, M$.

[-X-]

So will Nintendo. Its business! Im also guessing that Microsoft will also make their own motion controller for Kinect.

What I don't understand is why make this only for the 360. I would have definitely bought it for PC!!

[MaximusPrime]

correction: Sony already did Kinect-style camera. its called PS Eye.

Microsoft is playing catch-up. yes Microsoft will follow Nintendo and Sony in bringing their own motion controller.

[-X-]

The fact that Kinect is 3D, and PS EYE is not makes a HUGE difference.

[Cenobia]

I would argue that that isn't innovation, it's just evolution.

I haven't seen anything really innovative in any Kinect game. It is basically gesture matching.

They probably could develop a game that is innovative with the tech, but that isn't what we've seen. It's just games like the eyetoy has.

And I still believe that there is almost a complete lack of core gaming applications for it.

[TheBlackSmoke]

It doesn't matter, when the kinect is showing nothing that cant be done on a PSeye. A technology is only as good as the games on it.

Besides, the point is that eye toy is the FIRST camera based motion control. That is all there is to it, there's no debate about it.

[Agent-86]

Xilus867 says "I would have definitely bought it for PC!!" Oh, HELL NO! I do not want this motion control fad to infect my PC gaming. Please don't give MS any ideas.

[-X-]

This thing tracks you,and can measures items. Thats pretty cool.

Also animators can have a much easier time if they could just animate with kinect.

[Simco876]

This site was way on the side of Kinect.

Kinect has one con? lol

[The real killer]

Every time if Microsoft come somthing evolution like Kinect, than all news papers is full blabbing of new innovation bla bla and bla and even award for the best innovation, what innovation?

They also compare with Move, why they don't compare with PS eye only? Move is just object the gamer need for more immersion or 1:1 motion gaming, Kinect is not 1:1 motion gaming.

Sony started for the mass market motion gaming and back than 2001 no single attention and when the Wii came with almost the same controles like Move being develop was Nintendo suddenly the inventor of motion gaming, guys i remind you Nintendo released first those things but that doesn't mean they are the innovate the hardware itself.

Microssoft has no single motion controles, so they need to buy this tech from a Isreal company and named Natal and later Kinect, i remind you that Microsoft nothing and nothing have innovate about consoles or motion controles.

So, Sony was always the motion of the kings.

"lol.More like Microsoft and Sony were envious of Nintendo and responded with their own motion controls"

LOL, Sony was allready busy before the Wii came out, the fact that the Move very accurate than anyting else have to do with developing the hardware, Sony has also motioncontroll the dualshock.

PS: Nintendo have to paid licents for the use of this technolochy :)

[hoops]

You know that Logi-Tech and MS had a motion controller out before the Nintendo and SOny?
Do you also know that Sega was the first with a camera based add on for gaming. It was called the DreamEye.
Sega also did console 3D before MS or Sony.
As for the first to do motion controls? It was Atari back in 1980 with the Le Stick.
And FYI. Sony DID respond to Nintendo when theysa massive Wii sales.
MS did the same. They both did. \
Stop nut hugging Sony dude. It's sad.
And the real console innovators IMO is Sega. They release so much stuff that these consoles are doing now.

[hoops]

And more proof to what I am saying.
MS did not invent motion controls OR Sony. They stood on the shoulders of others and hen CLAIM they did and lemmings believe them.

Sega gets major kudos for starting things these consoles are just starting: It's Sony and MS ripping off Sega:

Sega Activator:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sega DreamEye:

http://retro-treasures.blog...

Sega 3D:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Then you have Nintendo

The Power-Glove..This came out before the PlayStation was even a thought in Kens pants. So to say Nintendo did not have technology based experience with motion controls before Sony is foolish at best. They worked with motion controllers BEFORE Sony based on this tech.
Yes I know, this is N4G.COM and Sony invents EVERYTHING:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Nintendo Virtual Boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Then you have the first motion controller. The Le Stick:

http://classicgames.about.c...

Sony and MS did not invent this.
Give props to Nintendo AND Sega.

[xg-ei8ht]

Both ninty and sony were offered the tech, and even tried it out for awhile and were not happy with it.

So no. Kinect isn't going to be good for other then dance and on-rails.

Try harder M$.

[TheColbertinator]

lol.More like Microsoft and Sony were envious of Nintendo and responded with their own motion controls

[blackburn5]

*holds head* Who approves this junk? If you must approve these Move/Kinect comparisons please at least make sure it is professionally and expertly done and not another kiss Mircosoft's @$$ articles. In fact don't approve Move ones either. Stop pretending that Kinect is perfect and Move isn't. And if you seriously believe that Kinect games are better then you obviously have been ignoring some of the low scores they have been getting. Sonic Riders, Adrenilin Junkies, Fighters Uncaged, Motion Sports and Harry Potter with Kinect haven't exactly been lighting up the charts either.

[mushroomwig]

Envy? Doubtful.

http://gamer.blorge.com/201...

[a08andan]

The King of motion-gaming this generation is Nintendo :P

[Carlos_Irwin_Estevez]

Very funny joke article.

[Masterchef2007]

I dont think that sony envy's kinect at all. Move has a different plan different audience,

[JonnyBigBoss]

Doesn't work with core games. If it doesn't work with Killzone, inFamous, LittleBigPlanet, Heavy Rain, etc. it isn't worth the company or the consumer's time.

[Killed4Less]

Move is a decent kit but Kinect has the most potential for unique experiences. It's got the buzz factor for sure.

[milesofsmiles]

Ha yeah right

[Optical_Matrix]

LMAO. Why would Sony envy it, when they tried it nearly a decade ago? This is hilarious

[rlm42]

Because they failed miserably and now it is succeeding?

[Optical_Matrix]

So 10 million Eyetoys is a failure? Good lord, please gtfo

[danielle007]

If Sony ever made enough of what they're trying to sell. I've only seen one single stand alone Move controller - you know, the thing that everyone wants - so far.

I dunno. I personally think Move will lose in the short run, but it will last, and potentially win the long run, while Kinect will win in the short run, but really slow down once people get tired of the same mini games that they already played on the Wii. Plus, the casuals are fickle.. It really will be interesting to see how it all plays out..

Move has the core gamers pretty on board, and Kinect has shown nothing to actually win the core over.. unless they have small (but not TOO small) children.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

To be viable, I believe Kinect has to bring it for the core. People think that Nintendo Wii is successful just because of the casuals. It is the core gamer who made the Wii successful - folk interested in Nintendo first party - although they were pretty much ignored for the casual audience.

If you look at Kinect now, I bet it is mostly core gamers buying it. Not necessarily housewives buying it for themselves. I can definitely see it being dropped by core gamer for lack of games just like the EyeToy, which sold 10 million. At the end of its life, Kinect will sell more than EyeToy because of advertising alone, but not more than 15 million.

Unless it caters to the hardcore.

[Dazel]

but for me, Kinect feels like it offers way more freedom and feels totally new in the same way the Wii did. It works in the 6'x6' space i have spare with very few hicups.

[danielle007]

How so? You are playing the very same party games that the Wii threw at you in the beginning. There has been no showing of actual core games using the Kinect, and definitely no proof of it actually being able to handle core games at all..

So, sure. Enjoy your dancing, enjoy your leaping around on rafts, and enjoy your exercise games, but please do not call those new.

Gimme a game that's a brand new experience, then we can talk.

[IconicWolf]

I love the kinect. Iv had a wii it was ok just the Kinect you can talk to it. just the way you interact with it bad,and i have a small room and it works fine for me no problems untill one of my dogs walks in front of it. other then that works great see no problem with it.the bowling is off the chain ping pong better then the move and volly ball kicks but. just waiting for a kick a$$ shooter

[clintos59]

There isnt even a game out for it that shows anything new & impressive but yet its innovative? If people are excited over this because of the so called innovative games it has on its launch for kinect then look for the future of kinect to be pure garbage. U ask why? Well for one the media id giving kinect a free pass & people like omega & bigpappy will buy anything to support kinect giving MS the idea that all they need to do is advertise the hell out of kinect & people will buy it no matter how crappy the software. Trust me on this, where is a game for kinect that is as impressive as SORCERY? Oh wait u have harry potter which is already failing hard. Just shows how limited kinect is when it comes to other genres that will give kinect a hard time without a controller. We all know MS will eventually add a controller but if so it will already show how BS of a product kinect is & False advertising saying, "U are the controller". LOL.

[illmatic]

Have you played sorcery. I didnt think so

[-Gespenst-]

Kinect = Eyetoy+

Move = WiiMotion++

Also, a wiimotion++ (the move controller) logically suits a core gaming audience. Whereas an Eyetoy+ (The Kinect) logically suits a casual audience.

That's the way it all seems to me.

I have a Ps3, so I may buy a Move at some juncture when core games for it really hid their stride.

[visualb]

if you think Move is an improved Wii mote (which everyone...EVERYONE in the media does) then the SAME PEOPLE should see Kinect as an improved eyetoy

but for some reason...no one does...

its insane.

move is a better wii mote

kinect is a better eyetoy

live with it. neither is an innovation. neither is a game changer. if you think so, you are a ****** ***** *** ********

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Exactly how I see it with this one caveat - Move is more the complete package, camera and controller.

Wii is just a controller. Kinect is just the camera. Move is BOTH!!!

Hopefully, Kinect will continue the improvements in motion control by simply adding a controller.

[Blackmoses]

I swear.... I just want games. Not the mini games that both these peripherals are shoveling out but real games!!! I'm talking Black OPS, God of War, Demon Souls type games... Enough with these "anything you can do I can do better" crap!!! Just give me good games with a decent replay value. I work out on my own and yeah to a degree that can be fun, but when I wanna play a video game....I really just want to vegg out for a couple of hours and immerse myself either in a good to decent story, beautiful environments, sound game play mechanics or the competitiveness in which it evokes. If it manages to bring all that into one great!!!

I can really do without all the waggling and motioning around....

[JAMurida]

I still have yet to see how Kinect is innovative. It seriously is the PS Eye with update tech... but I guess that makes it innovative........

[XeroTrinity]

Its not a fucking innovation.

[visualb]

*cringe*....

[TheHardware]

only because if they did it, they would make it work correctly ;P

[sp1deynut]

...like with the PS Eyetoy....that FAILED MISERABLY?

[stephmhishot]

Haha this a joke article right?

1) "Lack of original games – Sports Champions, really Sony? We’ve already experienced lackluster titles like this on the Wii. Sure they may not be in HD, but we want something more than just HD versions of Wii games. We want some fresh new concepts, and I’m not talking about a patch that allows for Move capabilities in MAG."

Wow, no mention of Kinect Sports huh?

2) "With the announcement of Kinect, many people were skeptical as to how this technology would work. However since its official launch, Kinect has been picking up a lot of steam and sales are skyrocketing. Microsoft recently increased their initial sales predictons for Kinect from $2 million to $5 million."

Helps to have a half a billion advertising budget. And LOL at the $2-$5 million sale predictions. Typo much? I would HOPE to God that Kinect was selling. A huge ad campaign, the mainstream media that doesn't know any better is all over it, and CELEBRITY ENDORSEMENTS ZOMG. Kinect is gonna look great next to everyone's Lil Wayne and Miley Cyrus photos! WHAT'S ADVERTISED AND ENDORSED AND LOVED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS ALWAYS TEH BEST!

3) "Kinect Pros:

Pricing – At $149.99 including a game, Kinect is a bargain. This is going to be a huge factor in determining what peripheral families will be purchasing this holiday season.

Games – Kinect has introduced a lot of games that are fresh and original. The hardware is to thank for all of these original games."

No mention that Kinect games cost $10 more than Move games? And original?

Dance Central? Just Dance for Wii?

Sonic Riders? Antigrav for Eyetoy?

Kinectimals? Eyepet?

I guess the only game that has no competition is Kinect Adventures. Oh boy.

[IQUITN4G]

Either way, Kinect is going to likely sell rather a lot more and that's really what Sony will be envious about here

Move is definitely an ace bit of kit but the general perception is that it's like Wii.Few people outside of sites like this are in any way tech minded so they wont know if Move is better than Wii.So while clearly Sony has a better version of Wii, Kinect is different in that respect altogether.Even if Kinect is regarded as rubbish to some here, it's seen as Miniority Report to all non gamers or those gamers not in the know.So basically not the minority here on N4g

And lets be honest here, Wii owners wont be surely all that motivated into getting a PS3- they're not exactly hardcore right and wont want to spend another load of cash on another entertainment machine when actually the thrill isn't what it used to be anyway- hence Wii's gathering dust.I mean that is who Sony is targeting this to i presume

[Abu]

... and failed to make it work. Too bad Sony. But congrats on coming up with the light bulb on a stick idea. How long did that take you? Ten years?

[Gamefan12]

kinect isn't going to work for "hardcore" games because Sony realized you need something to make the experience better .. something like oh i don't know .. BUTTONS

[NeloAnjelo]

Microsoft makes alot of money on each Kinect Unit. The cost of production is $56.00 per unit. We all know they are not know for selling at a loss like Sony. Take XBL and the 360 as examples...

Secondly, of course people are gonna eat this up. IMO it will be like how people bought the Wii. There will be a few games that appeal to the masses for a short time. They will sell millions. e.g dance central and the EA Kinect Sports Active.

Eventually it will just be another box in the house for the little kids. Honestly I can't see hardcore players using this.

This is how Sony and MS have different approaches...

At the moment Sony is building Move into harcore titles, with the option to play both ways. While some games are Move Only. Trying to encourge the hardcore to give the games a shot.

MS so far have Kinect only games. Giving a clear distinction between harcore and softcore. Hence why MS treated this almost like a console launch. Whereas Sony had a soft launch.

The test will be in the next year or two. Lets see what ideas the Devs bring to the table. Peronally I would love to see Madworld on the PS3...

[Catharsis]

They're simply not making a profit until that $500m advertising has been paid off. They need to sell well over 5 million units just to break even...

...and that's not even including development costs.

[Denethor_II]

Is that the name of the website or the title to the opinion?

[Half-Mafia]

even if Sony had the Kinect right now, it would not be anything like it is now. sony would not of made it all causal

[-PINNER-]

I'm sorry, but I just can't get excited about any of it. The Wii sucks, I've played mine for about two hours in the last year. Only because my 5 year old wanted to slice fruit.

The Move sucks. I bought the PS move because my daughters wanted Eyepet. I tried each of the games on Sports Champions and they are all boring.

Kinect looks even stupider than than the other two and I refuse to waste my money on it.

I think that the Move has the most potential with it's Hardcore integration, but I'm not holding my breath. Just give me a controller and let me play. Flailing my arms does not give me a feeling of immersion. Intense gameplay, loud sound efects, and an engaging story immerse me 1,000 times more than putting spin on a pretend two dimensional ping pong ball.

I'm tired of listening to hardcore game players and journalists argue about which is better when I know that none of them are putting down COD, Mass Effect, Gran Tourismo, God of War, Grand Theft Auto, Halo,......, so that they can play Kinectimals, Start the Party, or Wii Sports Resort. They're not choosing to play Forza while pretending to hold a steering wheel for hours. Why, because it's tiring and insanely inaccurate when compared to a controller or a real racing wheel.

Stop fighting over something you don't actually care about!

And to all of the Xbox fanboys that are to blind to see it, Microsoft has forgotten about you. They just spent $500m on advertising aimed at SOCCER MOMS!!!! I can't remember the last exclusive/new IP I was excited about... Alan Wake? It's sad that your only hope in staying on top of Sony is rooting for Kinect to succeed. And it's even more sad that you're OK with it. Xbots are this generations Nintenkids; completely fine playing the same three franchises year after year after year after year after year... Have fun playing Halo Volleyball in 2011.

[Silly gameAr]

Wonder if these people actually believe the crap that they write?

[GeoramA]

lol

That's a good one.

[Clarence]

So the only con for Kinect is how big the unit is. What a fanboy article. The games alone are horrible on Kinect. Hardcore gamers don't like that crap.

[Spitfire_Riggz]

That was the most biased article I have ever read.

[lizard81288]

"Games – Kinect has introduced a lot of games that are fresh and original. The hardware is to thank for all of these original games."

lol

"Fun Factor – Kinect is just playing fun, for everyone. Casual gamers and hardcore gamers can finally unite and play together. Kinect is also a great way to get the whole family involved. "

lol

in conclusion, i got a great laugh.

[CombineElite]

Games with motion support

Wii: almost all their triple A titles, Zelda, Metroid nuff said

Move: Killzone 3, MAG, Dead Space Extraction, Heavy Rain, Infamous 2, LittleBigPlanet2, Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition, NBA2K11, SOCOM4

Kinect: NO HALO, NO Call of Duty, No Gears, and NO AAA titles.

From a CORE gamers perspective all this talk about Kasual Kinect is WORTHLESS to ME and all CORE gamers no matter what platform you play on.

Here's the Link for Move supported games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Neko_Mega]

Some thinks sports champ is like a wii game, even if kinect sports is a rip off.

[Human Analog]

I think you all are missing the point of the article. They want you to find the name of that really hot girl demostrating the kinsect in the picture.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

comes to motion gaming...

But being a Move only owner. I already lost massive interest in it already... I also don't count KZ3 as a Move title either. I will admit Im feeling a bit dooped on Move... Im not seeing ANYTHING of planned Move titles coming out, which has me ticked I have it. But considering it was bought by the girlfriend, I guess it's not as bad...

But I will say I'd rather be stuck with Move than Kinect any day... the tech is just... BETTER!

[Orionsangel]

Wow how biased can this article get?

"Pricing – At $149.99 including a game, Kinect is a bargain."

Yes a bargain! A steal! A must buy! You wanna go start sucking Kinect's d*ck now?

[jezzerzeus]

Kinect is nothing new at all! all the features apart from the facial recognition are used before 7 to 8 years before.
Move is not out of the game by any means 1 to 1 is amazing and more precise than kinect and wii put together not only will the games be better you wont need a bunch of paid celebrities to say the same exact thing as they promote it "You are the controller" ok we get it but the writer of this article is full of sh^t you should never let a fanboy write articles. articles need to be neutral

[SnukaTheMan]

old technology or not....

[Bluemaster77]

Oh so Sony, not the slew of other F*&%ing camera companies are responsible for the creation of Kinect -__- you guys really need some help

[SnukaTheMan]

I almost died laughing when reading this....anyways...to not hold onto a controller of any kind is called innovation...sony just copied the wii using old technology (playstation eyetoy) and tries to call it in innovation ....innovation is the playstation using blu ray....because NO ONE ELSE WAS....

[NumOnePS3FanBoy]

Ha!!! this is funny stuff

[jneul]

yeah it was innovative 10 years ago when it was called eyetoy.....

[Orionsangel]

I hate all this fake hype for Kinect. Which is not only being created by Microsoft but by some of media who are being paid off to hype the shit out of it!

[strickers]

That was a terrible article.The best bit for me was the Move won't work in bright light.It showed a lack of understanding about Kinect.That will struggle more in bright light(as stated by some reviews) because it needs to differentiate you from the background without the benefit of your clothes glowing.Kinect has a CMOS sensor so camera feeds should work better than PSEye in different lights conditions but the motion tracking will not.

[insomnium2]

One half a billion dollars is all I'm seeing from this. Feeding your family is the only reasonable reason for lying. It's still not right though....

[beast242tru]

well i can say sony you really slunk on all this stuff and let others grab and run with it ps move could have been out from ps3 launch also controller free gameing sony could have owned psn lacks and xbox live trumps it sony is a great company but they really need to fire some people that aint doing thier job its like thier are no gamers workin for sony just a bunch of computer nerds its the small stuff that they seem to miss out on every time now microsoft has popular xbox brand, controller free gameing, xbox live, and tons of money.i gat madd respect for sony but xbox aint goin nowhere and took a huge chunk of ur market share

[kasasensei]

So
Biased
Article
OMG

[hazelamy]

sony had a working version of similar tech to kinect years ago, on the ps2.
if they wanted the no controller option, they could have had it, they decided buttons were better.

[mcstorm]

I really don't get this Sony fans for years have hated the Wii yet now Sony has move which is just a updated Wii remote it becomes the best thing ever. Yet kinect is hated by them because it is a better version of the eye toy? How do you work that one out? Kinect is 100 times better than the eye toy as you don't meet perfect lighting in the room and to move any objects out of the way that the device can see as it causes problems playing games. I agree kinect is an idea taken from the eye toy but works different and better. The eye toy has only been made to work with eye toy games and nothing else. Kinect can be used on the dash in things like skyplayer and Zune player. It also can be used by voice commands Sony never added this into eye toy. I have move as well as kinect so I can see what they are both good and bad at. Move works just like the Wii remote when playing games apart from it has 1:1 tracking but the software lets the controller down. Plus depending on what fame I'm playing depends on where I have to put the eye toy and it has to be configered again. Kinect will do this for you once its been setup the 1st time. Both kinect move and Wii need the same amount of space when playing a 2player sports game the only difference is kinect need to see all your body move and Wii don't. I do like move but Sony are not pushing it right. They need a mix of core and CSS move games and a cheeper ps3 bundle if they want it to push the sales of the console like kinect and Wii are doing. And for any one who says they have problems with kinect picking them up then they have it setup wrong as I have never had this problem. I really think Sony have lost there way this Gen I've allways been a ps fan but this time round I feel everything they have created feels unfinished or rushed.

[insomnium2]

"I really don't get this Sony fans for years have hated the Wii yet now Sony has move which is just a updated Wii remote it becomes the best thing ever. Yet kinect is hated by them because it is a better version of the eye toy?"

I'm commenting on this since I didn't read the rest.

Move = next to no lag + hc-games = potential to no end.
Kinect = lag + casual games + MS's me too = turndown for the x360 core audience

I doubt we would hear even half of all the hate on Kinect if you x360 folks would've kept your mouths shut and not talked UNJUSTIFIED smack about PS3 for 3+ years.

This phaze is called the "rubbing it in"-phaze. All the formerly smacktalking core gamers who laughed at PS3 for no games, slow bd-drive, blu-ray, mandatory installs, salez, no games, salez, no games, etc. have done a TOTAL 180 turn and gone casual and are actually defending Kinect. The hypocrisy in this is so thick I don't even know if I should laugh or cry.

There is absolutely no point in taking the next x360-fan step and blame Sony fans for shouting at Wii for motion controls and now loving it to death with Move. That is NOT hypocrisy since the cause of blame has NEVER actually been the consept of motion gaming. It has been the fact that motion gaming is ALL the wii offers. That's is. That's all it has. Motion gaming with lag and games only for kids and grandparents.

No worries. Disagree all you want. This is exactly the way it is afaik after being and participating in conversations in gaming forums for the past 4 years or so. This is my truth.

[mcstorm]

I dont get the lag bit. Have you tried Kinect I see very if any Lag with Kinect.

MS had to make the U-Turn with the 360 on the None core games as this is what the 360 needs to be a all round console like the PS3 and games like kinect sports dance central are fun to play for core and none core.

To say 360 has now games is wrong as we have just had reach fable and 15 kinect games. Sony has not had any exclusive games in the last 4 months.

MS have said they have core games next year for both 360 and Kinect.

At the end of the day its all down to the people who buy them. If you like the PS3 over the xbox and wii then thats fine its your choice just like mine is to think the 360 offers me more than the ps3 and the wii. I dont think any of them are bad or hate them I just find the 360 fits my gaming and life better then the ps3 and wii.

[insomnium2]

Granted it's ok to be an all round console. They should've marketed it that way from the get go instead of beating their chest as a hc-console. This switch makes their foundation in casual gaming nonexistant. They are in it only for the money.

As for Sony they've been in motion tech over 10 years already and they always try to take the industry forward with their console and only in the end of the gen they get their prize. Sony is patient and plans things thoroughly.

MS on the other hand is in it for the quick buck. They talk smack about stuff and a month later they switch and embrace the thing they JUST talked down upon. I find it despicable.

The fanboys have always taken to the heart and acted the exact same way as MS executives and that's exactly why the hypocrisy is so deep here. Look at the comments from cold, mart, aquanox, etc. and you can confirm this yourself. Now we should be gamers and not haters? Now they just love casual-gaming? Pffft.... If this isn't BS then what is.

[Corrwin]

PlayStation Move Cons:
Pricing – Its going to set you back around $120.

Kinect Pros:
Pricing – At $149.99 including a game, Kinect is a bargain.

[Jonoc33]

lololol playstation eye had the idea first. fools.

[beast242tru]

yes it is a fanboy article he smashes the ps3 to pices and big up kinect i am a big sony fan and neva bashed the wii's motion onli made fun of the cartoon graphics ps move is an upgraded wii kinect is an upgraded eye toy the main things is sony coulda, shoulda,woulda had all these techs downpacked and under controll if they wasnt soo lazy controller free games sony started but no one seems to remember that now it seems as if kinect is the first to do it the move could have been out on market from the start of the ps3 but they wait until wii is popular and kinect is thier to rival sony had alot of hits but they missed they are a great company but somethings seriously wrong someone not doing thier job ps move is ugly as f**k and 2 clunky and bundle is too expensive kinect mite only hav casual but microsoft dont care sales is sales they already hav 40 million hardcore gamers riding xbox brand now its time for 40 million casual gamers to jump in kinect and xbox going far and looking good but neva underestimate the japanese thier marathon runners not sprinters and super smart look at the ps3 in 2007 and look at it now big difference

[Treyb3yond]

Hell no!

[Run_bare]

i have to say, the guy that do the article is a moron.

[SQWERCH]

WHY ARE YOU GUYS FIGHTING ABOUT THIS, TAKE A SECOND TO YOURSELF AND ASK YOURSELF WHY AND YOU WILL REALIZE HOW STUPID THIS ARGUMENT REALLY IS, JESUS GUYS DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?

[Smootherkuzz]

Move lands a right cross, Kinect lands to the gut,they both land a uppercut,their are both on the floor, the bell sounds ending the round who has won? who cares they are both still here.Get over it!!

[HurtfulTimez]

played it for the first time last night at my friends....

i wasnt impressed, the only thing that did impress me was the chat options and how the camera follows you around the room as you speak. THATS IT.

the games he shown me were terrible! (kinect adventures) and some fighting type game. both looked stupid and he (my friend) was getting really pissed off because he couldnt control the raft and car in both games he shown me, where he was supposed to be demoing how 'responsive' kinect is all he did was FAIL.

he asked if I was getting it i said "doubt it not until they bring out some proper hardcore games and besides il be time consumed by GT5 when its out"

then he starts waffling on about Forza kinect and how after a few updates he imagines kinect to be even more amazing and said (this is what really made me laugh n him shut up) I think ms should release a gun peripheral for FPS games and a CONTROLLER to navigate your body.

I said CONTROLLER?! you just been banging on to me about how this pisses all over the move because you dont need a controller now your wishing MS make a controller?! i just laughed and went home with my friend unable to reply to my last comment.

[Gamefan12]

exactly .. MS has stated they are making a controller for "hybrid" gaming ... yea that's the move right there

[ironmonkey]

as of right now no kinect is not a success more money spent /less sales and do you think people like oprah and ellen expect you to come on their show free and sell your shit? hell no. they got paid to. this so called innovation has all of its games already on the net freely to download. ms expects big sales? i think not. it will die down as fast as it was hyped up.

[prettyboy1]

couldnt be more wrong,its pretty sad how this guy praises ms for doing something thats been done before,and bashes sony who actually are trying to inovate

[Silverfang2340]

I didn't know that throwing a depth-sensing camera, motion-tracking camera, and a microphone in a piece of plastic could be defined as "Innovation" (Sony©)

Interesting..

[Figboy]

but i think it's safe to say that it is the king of motion control gaming, and Sony and MS are just living in it's world until they get their act together.

also, here were the Wii's NA launch titles:

Avatar: The Last Airbender
Call of Duty 3
Excite Truck
Happy Feet
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Madden NFL 07
Monster 4x4 World Circuit
Need for Speed: Carbon
Rampage: Total Destruction
Red Steel
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Wii Sports (which came with the Wii, if i recall)

regardless of the ultimate quality of most of those games, you can't deny that it at LEAST had breadth in genre and game play types.

compare that with the Kinect, and also keeping in mind that the Xbox 360 is 5 years old now, and Kinect has, at the least, been in R&D for over 2 or 3 years.

Kinect launch titles:

Kinect Adventures
Kinectimals
Game Party: In Motion
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows — Part 1 The Videogame
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved
Dance Central
The Biggest Loser Ultimate Workout
DanceMasters
EA SPORTS Active 2
Zumba Fitness
Kinect Sports
MotionSports
DECA SPORTS FREEDOM
Kinect Joy Ride
ADRENALIN MISFITS
Fighters Uncaged
SONIC FREE RIDERS

i mean, do you guys just NOT see it?

Microsoft had an opportunity to, literally, blow us away with Kinect. after all, Project Natal received so many "Best in Show" awards back at E3 and GDC. i mean, some of the biggest gaming sites in the industry couldn't CONTAIN their hyperbole and how it was the most incredible thing they had ever seen in gaming.

then reality came crashing down. does Kinect have POTENTIAL? hell if i know, i'm not too interested in motion controls from ANY of the big three console manufacturers, and i kind of wish they'd focus their efforts on creating more compelling game play for the audiences that have supported them for, literally, DECADES.

but to try and pretend that Kinect is actually DOING something that hasn't been done before, is amazing. this article is trying WAAAY too hard. it's almost like it was written by one of N4G's more stalwart trolls/fanboys.

[stonedgamer]

i get tried of telling these retards over and over kinect has been out since the 2000's and its called the PSeye, but then again you got alot of brainless people that just eat up whats popular to try and stay trendy.