Bioware working with Obsidian?

Bioware working with Obsidian on Mass Effect spinoff? Compare this two pictures.

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kaveti66162988d ago


It's so typical of Obsidian to leech off of successful franchises rather than making a name for themselves.

Neckbear2988d ago (Edited 2988d ago )

BioWare's best games were co-developed with Obsidian/Black Isle (Or well, part of their staff at least).


If I'm not wrong, Baldur's Gate 1/2 (Or well, the 2nd one is the one I'm sure they worked at together), the first KOTOR (The second one was fully developed by Obsidian), among others I don't really remember at the moment.

Well, that's if I'm not wrong, though. I'm quite sure I am not.

Editan at your edit:

I'm quite sure they are. As I said, part of Obsidian/Black Isle's staff worked in those games, and in fact, both BioWare and Black Isle were pretty close back in the day, sharing engines (Planescape: Torment, for example, was developed on Baldur's Gate engine) and different staff members.

We also saw that with KOTOR, but said companionship kinda vanished as years passed.

...As far as I remember, that's it.

Blacktric2988d ago (Edited 2988d ago )

Like what? We all know what KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2 turned into. On topic: the answer is no they're not. There is also an Atari game (probably a 2600 one) hidden between transitions around 0:07-0:08.

Edit: Yes, but they didn't work with the full staff. They were partially involved and those projects were supervised by Bioware, not Obsidian. Look at their latest games since the mid 2000's. They made sequels for KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights and Fallout and they were just decent, not mindblowing. Hell, look at Alpha Protocol.

soundslike2988d ago

NWN2 was built on a shitty engine.

Why would Obsidian build a new engine for a ME game? They won't. They won't do anything but content for an established franchise now. There's really nothing to worry about except first party titles with questionable engines from Obsidian, give them boundaries and a decent budget and they are fine.

tplarkin72987d ago

They did an amazing job with KOTOR 2. The only issue was the plot twist which killed off the coolest evil character (which was on the cover).

kaveti66162987d ago

I stand by my claim that Obsidian is a mediocre developer.

All of Obsidian's good games were sequels to already existing franchises.

Kotor 2 was the sequel to Kotor 1, made by Bioware.

Obsidian barely changed anything for Kotor 2. They kept the same engine, they wrote a shittier story, and they didn't even complete the game.

Same thing for Fallout New Vegas.

It's time people realize that Obsidian are just parasites. I don't care if they're made up of people who used to work for a good studio. Those guys are still has-beens. They make slightly mediocre sequels to great games and those sequels are hardly improved.

Obsidian is the B Team, the Treyarch.

And if you want to prove me wrong, then do it in a more civil manner. Don't just ramble on about how I'm wrong or am a zealot or whatever.

I'm not a zealot. I don't really get on Bioware's nuts for anything. I criticize them a lot for not making a proper Kotor sequel instead of MMO.

But I plenty of proof that Obsidian is a parasite studio. And if this rumor is true, it will confirm my belief that much more.

RockmanII72987d ago

Thats in insult to Treyarch

kaveti66162987d ago

Treyarch aren't very good, either. They might be if they left Activision and worked on a different IP using a different engine, but for now they're the B team.

Obsidian is free to go where they please. And that's why they usually gravitate towards successful IPs and somehow, I know not how, they get to make sequels to great games. And the fact is that if there's a game out there that's a 9.0 to a 9.5 on the quality scale, all the publishers are content with Obsidian being brought in to make a 8.0 sequel because the game will sell on name alone.

And that 8.0 quality is not achieved by Obsidian. They just make the same game with the same graphics and the same gameplay with a slightly different storyline, and no one's the wiser.

Quagmire2988d ago

It would be great if they worked on Alpha Protocol 2. That game had great ideas, just executed very poorly, and is practically right up Bioware's alley.

showtimefolks2988d ago

but could have been 9.5 if they would have fixed few things

but don't we say the same thing about every game they work on its never tehir fault but blame the publisher. sega even delayed the game like 5 or 6 months for polish i mean come on

story wise they always are spot on just like NT story wise they can give you the game gameplay wise both are in teh same boat

soundslike2988d ago

the problem is the budget. they only get enough money to execute their ideas by working for other people, hopefully they eventually gain rights to a solid engine in the future to ground a new IP.

FLOWCity2988d ago

Agreed, if you looked passed it's flaws then it was a great experience.

dkblackhawk502988d ago

o.o you have to look at the images yourself to see...damn

Lekumkee2988d ago

With Obisidian on we can all expect the game will be buggy as hell.

Sarcasm2988d ago

Nah, it's just the nature of the engine with Fallout 3. If anyone's to blame, it's Bethesda.

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