Kinect to Outsell PlayStation Move by 67% Through January, says Pachter

With both Sony's PlayStation Move and Microsoft's Kinect camera now on the market, the stage is set for a big motion controls showdown. Kinect launched a few weeks later than Move, but it's quickly managed to sell through a million units worldwide and Microsoft says it's on track to sell 5 million. Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter agrees with the forecast, essentially noting that Kinect will outsell Move by 67% through January (the end of GameStop's fiscal year).

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KILLERAPP3765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

And we all know his predictions are always right… lol...

Pennywise3765d ago

Patcher needs to get a job at VGChartz.

MeatPopsicle3765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

It's Pachter, not Patcher.

It is funny that the guy known for making idotic claims and constantly being consistently wrong has a name that almost everyone gets consistently wrong.

MrMccormo3765d ago

Pachter also said "Wii HD at the end of 2009", among dozens of other lulzy statements.

Anarki3765d ago

Does it honestly matter that much to you? if so, seek help.

8-bit3765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

When he isn't making outlandishly ridiculous statements that end up being wrong, he makes captain obvious statements. It's the only way that he can claim to be right sometimes

FlatulentGhost3765d ago

"When he isn't making outlandishly ridiculous statements that end up being wrong, he makes captain obvious statements. It's the only way that he can claim to be right sometimes"


Patcher == 50 percent FAIL,50 percent Duh

Dee_913765d ago

because he is always right

OC_MurphysLaw3765d ago

Umm... Sure you may not like his speculation comments... but guess what... he is right many more times than wrong. His job doesn't require him to be spot on with numbers,etc... He advises on trends of companies and sales for his clients to buy or sell stock. Being a gamer you may not like his claims...but like it or not, his opinion carries FAR more weight than any fanboy here.

KingME3765d ago

Due to the number of separate pieces required for move and the fact that some people have cameras and some people don't. It is very difficult to track Move sells. I wish people would stop trying to compare sells for these two items as there is NO way to properly track Move sells.

Someone please tell me how you count move sells.

Do you count PS Eye sells and combind with with Move controller sells and base the numbers on the number of cameras sold?

Do you only count Move bundles?

Do you count move controller sells as move sells? (even though it's can't be used without the PS Eye.)

There is no way to tell if Pachter is right or wrong because it's too difficult to count Move sells.

darthv723765d ago

kingme has a point. I would guess they can try to do a total accumulation of individual move controller sales as the measuring stick.

Considering that is the real item in question. The sales of cameras does not automatically denote the sale of a move controller.

It does however offer the potential sale of a move controller. There are camera games that do not use the move.

ECM0NEY3764d ago

The word your looking for is sales.

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Unknow_Master3765d ago

yeah well he was right when he said that david jaffe was presenting twisted metal at e3

gtsentry3765d ago

jaffe wasnt planning on presenting twisted metal at the time,he jus decided afew days before to do it at e3

niceguywii603765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

Pachter isn't predicting anything all he's doing is looking at the demand and adjusting his belief.

Not hard to understand if Kinect is selling a million a week and also considering the first announced numbers didn't have every market tracked for the same amount of days due to not launching at the same time and not even launching at all in some markets. Also people do most of their shopping starting in a few weeks.

doG_beLIEfs3765d ago

Is the number to prove how accurate you are?

Because so have been as accurate as a 5 year old.

I "Michael Patcher" (predict) that Michael Patcher will be wrong on 3 out of every 4 predictions he makes.

Sheikh Yerbouti3764d ago (Edited 3764d ago )

67% is two thirds. So for every three Moves, MS sells five Kinects.

I think he is right about Kinect, not about Move. I think Move is at 1.5 million right now for the US and will more than double that come Dec. 31. So 3 million for the US. More than double than 6 million.

I don't think Kinect will pass Move's headstart until late December. And I think both will sell more.

Hallmark Moment3765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

"The boost is understood to have widened substantially the gap between Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, with Sony's biggest hope for a pre-Christmas surge coming next week with the release of the long-delayed Gran Turismo 5.

A senior publishing source added: "360 doubled last week and it was already selling a lot. Wii and PS3 have been beaten by 360 consistently over the past few months."

Only going to get crazier

BubloZX3764d ago

in the US. worldwide we wont really know till the quarter is over.

KiLLUMiNATi_893765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

There is too many fan girls in this website god damn. Shit a man can't have an opinion. Who gives a fuck in which product sells more WTF. But if he would of said ps move will sell 100 million copies and kinect only 5 million, then there wouldn't be any crying. WTF you fan girls are the worst shitt.

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Omega43765d ago

Considering its Patcher I guess Kinect will outsell Move by 100% through Jan lol.

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shutupandplay3765d ago

Not only that, but it`s going to shoot the 360 hardware sales far past the PS3, hell, it already has.

The haters have been proven wrong because it looks like Kinect is going to lock the 360 into second until the end of the generation.

ThatIrishGamer3765d ago


Just to bring up in a few years :D

FlatulentGhost3765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )


The 360 is already in last place in worldwide installed base.

The Kinect bundles are always in stock. No one other than existing Xbox owners are buying Microsoft's Eye Toy clone.

Kinect isn't going to do anything to get Microsoft out of last place this gen.

Mystogan3765d ago

Excuse me but do you have a source for your ''360 is in last place worldwide''comment?

Last time i checked PS3 is still in last place

FlatulentGhost3765d ago

"Last time i checked PS3 is still in last place"

Let me guess...

You checked the fake sales numbers on vgchartz...


The Maxx3765d ago

What "real" numbers are you using?

BubloZX3764d ago

in about 6 months shutupandplay will have to eat his words

Man_of_the_year3764d ago

The Maxx asks a simple question and he gets 5 disagrees and not a single response as to what those real numbers are.

LOL @ the delusional Sony Loyalists on this site.

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Moentjers3765d ago

no way the 360 is going to pass the Wii to get to the second place.

Silly gameAr3765d ago

Yeah dude, Kinect is going to do what the $199 price tag couldn't do. You should take Pachter's job.

cochise3133765d ago

yet,i still see plenty kinects in stock.

Sheikh Yerbouti3764d ago (Edited 3764d ago )

2012...the 360 falls to third place. Europe will ensure success and sales of the PS3, and as the bigger growth market will help PS3 dominate. Latin America will likely follow suit.

Kinect will only keep 360 in second place for 2011.

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ALFAxD_CENTAURO3765d ago (Edited 3765d ago )

He also said ''Gran Turismo 5 Will Be Out Mid December''

But, US Only right? Because World Wide is irrelevant for fanboys.

disturbing_flame3765d ago

Who cares about MOVE and KINECT, certainly not the true gamerz, so we dont care.


djfullshred3765d ago

Word. Little kiddy toys always sell well, so who cares about this kind of news on game sites (except the little kiddies, corporate people, or useless fanboys)

Cyrax_873765d ago

I couldn't care less either, I'll be playing LBP2 and ME2 in January.

Everyone else, have fun with your motion controls.