Gamersmnt: We, at Gamersmint bring to fore some interesting albeit a bit disappointing facts about Polyphony’s racer which every fan of the franchise should be aware of.
concern for me are the very limited weather tracks and separate damage modelling but when I put these two in front of the vast ocean of features that Gran Turismo 5 offers with, I can't help but laugh at it. GT5 will going to be the best sim ever. /nuff said
I do feel for the amount of time taken to develop it, they could have done a few things better ( the implementation of wheel customization, etc) But, to be honest, as soon as this enter my PS3, I would be acting a like a child for the next few days, distancing myself from the outside world. I know this will surpass all my expectations.
#1 and 6 both say "wheel customization" on regular cars, which I'm not too bothered by. Although I thought that getting chrome wheels on my "standard" Eagle Talon would add a nice 60hp or so, lol. /s Most of the cars that matter are Premium. About 220 of them. And they're good enough for the PS4. Do people really think that "standard" cars are simply copy-pasted from PS2??? They would look a lot worse than this: http://www.gamersmint.com/w... But they don't.
From GamersMint.com. Shocker. /s
Wow the standard cars look really good
it dont matter because with high resolution 1080p graphics they look very nice.
Standard cars seem to suck... I rather not play with any of them. Will the game force me to use them to unlock other premium cars?
I can understand some fans disappointment. Your favorite franchise next sequel takes 5 years to develop. You have kinda "meh" features, instead of what you wanted (or well, expected) it to be. Of course you're going to be disappointed with it, and it's completly understandable. @doG beLIEfs Now, I must ask, my friend, why bring Forza into the argument? It's all about Gran Turismo 5 and GT5 alone, focusing on it and its shortcomings (revealed before release, at least.), as well as the disappointment of a few fans who were expecting something else. Bringing things like "This is disappointing but OMG LOOK AT FORZA ITS WORSE PS3 WINZ LOL" shows nothing more but your lack of being able not only to keep on topic- but rather bash something else for fanboyism and fanboyism alone. In other words, grow up. Criticism is fine, and it's completly understandable. Also, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue could be considered a Demo, silly. That's like saying "Vanquish was NOT in development until the demo was released on PSN."
its all subjective really. Looking at just the GT series, does GT5 deliver a vast amount content then previous iterations? Yes. Does GT5 improve upon GT5:prolouge in graphics and driving experience (the only things really to compare a prolouge to a final version)? Definitely. In a way, real GT fans, that have played the series for many years, are getting a game that has trumped the features and content of previous GT games in a huge way. Now when trying to compare the GT games content to the content of comparable games on the market, GT5 also trumps those games by a large margin. Sure GT5 does not have every single piece of content ever created into a single package. If people were expecting this, then they will indeed be disappointed. GT fans that have been playing the games, buying the prolouges, are more than happy with what has been presented, believe me.
Because Forza 3 is a racing game that got coddled by reviewers and NONE of the shortcomings of the game were pointed out any where near the level of GT5. (which in my opinion has very little shortcomings) I was pointing out yet again the clear double standard used for PS3 exclusives over 360 exclusives.....there were many, many omitted features left out of Forza 3 yet NONE of the reviewers that I read pointed any of them out. Now we have GT5 which is not even out yet, has a boatload of features NOT in Forza 3....yet we get this nit picky crap from childlike gaming sites. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE FEATURES I LISTED THAT GT5 HAS....FORZA 3 DOES NOT HAVE.....every single one. So again, the proof is in the pudding ladies...NO 360 exclusive game gets held under the microscope like PS3 exclusive games....and EVERYONE knows this whether they admit it or not. That is why I believe that my first post that was deemed off topic was NOT off topic at all. GT fans are NOT disappointed with GT5...real GT fans anyway....only butthurt Forza 3 fanboys that WISHED Forza 3 had ANY of the features that I listed that GT5 DOES have.
Work on GT5 did NOT begin until AFTER GT5 prologue....and that game came out in 2008. GT5P cars had only 250k polygons and a different physics engine. GT5 cars have 500k polygons with a BRAND NEW physics engine. The EARLIEST indication from PD on the beginning of work on GT5 was late 2007. @Maxx You are full of you know what and you know it.
GT5 PROLOGUE is exactly that its a PROLOGUE OF GT5 go look up the meaning of prologue.. so yes gt5 was in development for 5 almost 6 years. and the earliest indication that PD was making GT5 was in 2005 E3 when they shot a trailor for grand tursimo on PS3.... GT HD and prologues are all gt5 just early builds....
waiting and they use it well
360 fanboys are scared of GT5.
Just got off gt planet and I have confirmation from the guy who been putting up pics and videos of GT5, and it looks like he doesn't have the the final copy of the game!!! so all the damage and and leaked game play is not from the final build... I REPEAT NOT FROM THE FINAL RETAIL BUILD... So all you you fake journalist talking mess of GT5 and XBOTS.... all your opinions are based on a preview copy of GT5.... He only got yo level 17 and was shown the the end credits.... GT1 isn't even that short... FOLLOW THE LINK, read and continue to the next page (his name is RDK) http://www.gtplanet.net/for...
^you should submit that as news.
GT5 needed more time but still it has too many features
No game is perfect and these are legit issues, but this will be as close as we get to perfection in a racing game for this generation, PS4 version Gran Turismo will be the next benchmark probably. I'd be glad if they are harder on GT5 than other racers as it will only push the developers to make something even better, that said credit should go where it is due and the enormity of what PD has done with what I've seen of GT5 should be recognised for what it is, incredible.
I expect GT6 to be a PS3 game. ----- I cant take any article dissing GT5 seriously, because they havent played the game and dont know the rationale behind each gameplay decision.
GT6 will come to PS3 and will have a higher premium Car count. just like GT1 to GT2 and GT3 to GT4.
ooh look, more waiting
The fear is strong in this article.
Ironically, you seem to be so unconfident about this game, you intend to just dish out valid complaints with "hurr teh fearz lolz". And without a tangible reason, to boot.
Not too mention the author says "all set to take the crown of being the ”definitive racing game” of this generation." Hey Otheros00 why don't you read the article so you know what you are responding too.
Thur's a snake in my boot!
even with those poiintless " limitations " you speak of GT 5 still does 10x as much as forza gtfo troll
Check this out. http://www.gtplanet.net/for... It appears as if Tekken90, RDK don't have the full retail version after all or that GT5's gonna have a day 1 patch with features. And the plot thickens....
you know what this means?! a lot of people are probably playing the game without the "game opening update" which makes sense, considering they were probably quite aware of leaks....
Obviously not a patch, what about offline players who couldn't get it? But yes it could be review / preview copies
last week but no one listened
i hope they will do an article bou wat this game offers,why do i not see this for other big games lyk forza,they are judged for wat they offer.ppl have no idea hw long it takes to implement all these features.we don even knw yet wat the game features but sme r already complaining bou wat it doesnt hve smfh.
was an ok article and all, but why are we seeing similar ones like this every single day? the game isn't even out yet and we're already judging how certain features were implemented like its already in the past? really? I'm scared to come to this site next wednesday..
On Nov 23rd at midnight (assuming my local gamestop does that) I will be picking up my GT5 CE and playing it some. Then work the next day then playing it all day after work then I will be home for thanksgiving for 5 days and play it at home with my bro on my dads 55" high def tv with full surround sound. I won't be on this site for a good week after Nov 24th...
The game's not even out yet and already we have opinion pieces and bitching and moaning. It seems like lose-lose for Polyphony Digital because no matter how perfectionist they are, there's always something, somewhere people want to add, tweak, change, remove...
im really starting to get nervous about this game. the more i read , the more i become nervous its gonna suck ass. hopefully on nov. 24 my anxiety will be able to come to a stop lol
Just stop reading this crap. GT5 is going to be great. There are way too many idiots out there with nothing better to do than cry over nothing. This guy must be desperate for hits on his dumb site.
Yea, there are also plenty of idiots dumb enough to be influenced by it, though. And these forums full of outrageous claims at all times and constant bitching and dick-measuring is the result.
the constant evidence is overwhelming. i will by buying this game day and expect it to be one of the best games of this gen.
This game isn't even out yet and all the babies are crying over this issue or that one. Big deal. I'm sure they could have given us all these features this guy wants if we wanted to wait another year or two. I have no problem with anything I've read so far. It seems great to me.
... and the hate continues *these articles are just sad because they're SO obvious
is not being able to drive every car in the cockpit.
since allowing SOME cars with cockpit, and then not allowing others, can be a b!tch hopefully this will be upgraded in GT6 a long with other factors still..quite a small short coming considering everything else the game harbors =D
while i'm a little annoyed by that, the massive scale of the game is why i am excited.
wait what? Only Premium cars have cockpit views? Ugh... GT5:P and Forza 3 turned me into a cockpit only driver... :( Oh well.
By the time wed hits and gt5 is entering all our millions of ps3s the kinect mob will be in full force ready to start the hate campaign against gt5 too make up for fact they got ripped off with a kids toy lol
The only thing that seems shitty is the lack of weather and day/night transitions for every track. At least I would have liked day/night transitions on every one... Or, do you think that every track has the option of being raced in day, OR night, rather than transition? Cause that would be totally fine. Either way, it's GT5, and it's been in development for 5+ years. I'm POSITIVE it will be mindblowing in all aspects.
These seem like petty arguments to me. Site reeks of Forza fangirls.
talk about nit picking
gears 3 needs more guns, ive used them in my head and im not satisfied. im returning the game before i even buy it.
GT fanboys fail to admit that GT is still playing catch up with Forza in a number of ways. The absurd amount of car customization, the massive online component, etc. But I'm going to avoid anymore dwelling on this ridiculous Forza/GT argument. This standard car stuff is bullshit though. When you've been working on a game for 5 years, I somewhat expect not to see a bunch of only halfassedly implemented features. This is such a letdown. Game will still be great as GT has always been, but I doubt it's going to be the definitive racing sim.
hahah Forza. Please Gran Turismo series is the best car simulator out there.
How many people can race online in Forza? How many people can race online in GT5? Which would be considered massive in relation to the other?
The thing is the 'working on a game for 5 years' is inaccurate. GT5 was announced (key word) in 2006 (iirc). This doesnt mean they've spent a full 4 (or even 5 if you wanna say 5) years working on GT5. Since GT4 (12/2004) this is what PD has released: Tourist Trophy February 2, 2006 PlayStation 2 Gran Turismo HD December 24, 2006 PlayStation 3 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue December 13, 2007 PlayStation 3 Gran Turismo (PSP) October 1, 2009 PlayStation Portable While a few of those are not full games, they still take production time away from GT5. It's not like they have been working on this and nothing else.
Play the game first, THEN try saying Forza in the same sentence.
It's misleading when people say 'the standard cars are just upres'ed GT4 cars'. This does not accurately describe what is happening. They are taking their original source of those cars, and using those for this game. It's not as if they take what is in the ps2 game and upscale it to higher resolution. The source are almost guaranteed to be much higher quality than what was implemented in the game. Just as the GT5 'premium' cars' source is likely to be much higher than what we will see in game. This allows them to not have to redo work over and over every time they make a game. Why would anyone think it's practical to rescan hundreds of cars AGAIN when they already have great source data for those cars. The only cars it would make sense on are fan favorites.
its not practical, but its necessary to keep the quality up. the 'standard' cars dont feature separate body panels - the lines you see in between panels are simply black lines on the cars texture. the standard cars dont feature 3d modelled door handles/headlights/taillight. they are all just part of the textures. the standard cars dont have interiors, and as such no interior view - and when you play these games the way theyre supposed to be played, with a steering wheel, you play in the first person view. the standard cars have rubbish looking damage. the standard cars arent visually modifiable. all of those negatives are 100% because of PDs decision to simply upscale GT4 cars rather than re-model them like T10 did for Forza 3. personally its put GT5 way down in my books. my favourite cars are the 80s/90s japanese sports cars, and because of PDs stupid decision to do 'standard'/'premiu m' cars, i wont be able to race in the first person view for ANY of my favourite cars - the 22b, Evo 6 TME, R32 GT-R, etc. i also wont be able to have visual damage with them, or modify what they look like. that quite honestly sucks IMO. and to those people that dismiss being able to change wheels on standard cars - do your research. changing wheels on cars is ESSENTIAL when taking your car to the racing track. go and do some reading about 'Unsprung weight/mass' and then try and tell me that changing from a wheel that weighs 15kg to one that weighs 7kg (for a saving of 32kg unsprung weight in total) doesnt affect performance. of course, you guys wouldnt know this since its fairly obvious that most of you havent even got your licence, let alone have driven high performance cars.
If you only race in cockpit view, why does it matter what the outside of your car looks like? You are never going to see it. And before you go all defensive, yes I do have my license and yes I have owned and played every GT game. It was an honest simple question intended to invoke thought and in return get an honest answer out of you.
fair enough question, but not a very well thought out one. while im in first person view, what do i see? the other cars! so while im racing in first person view, i have to see upscaled PS2 car models. and then there are replays, and my garage, etc. and when im just mucking around playing regular races (not career) ill give the chase cam a go so i can see the car models. do it all the time in forza and shift, so ill do the same in GT.
All the points made are things that everyone following the development of the game has known for at least a couple weeks now. Sure any of these things could have been added with further development ... but there really isn't any game to compare the features of GT5 to at this point and the game isn't even released yet. Most people will have a great deal of satisfaction with the game if they focus on what the game does have rather than nit picking out features that it doesn't require to be a high quality racing simulation.
No cockpit view in standard cars.. I mean they should at least make an okay not fully detailed version of non premium cars... Oh well, still going to be an awesome game.. Can't wait :D
For those kids who are not going to buy the most epic car game ever made because there are a few tiny lacking features in an otherwise massive feature set, HAVE FUN ON THE 24TH NOT PLAYING GT5! Cause I know I will be...
Dudes you have to watch this. Neckbear this single vid destroys forza3. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
The only thing there that slightly bothers me is the lack of Cockpit view. Now I'm not sure what they mean by that exactly. Last I checked all cars had it, just the standard cars didn't have even close to as much detail as the premium cars. Also, it makes plenty of sense with the weather and day/night transitions. It would be ridiculous if a 5-10 minute race had this happen. So the good old 60 minute racers will get variety while doing their endurance race. That makes sense to me. BUT, since they said they started work on GT6, I expect to see all these features implemented perfectly on all the cars/tracks. If you think about it, GT5 was PD getting their engine perfect and features all there. GT6 will be perfection on all aspects since they don't need to spend so much time reworking their car physics. Kind of funny how GT5 hasn't even come out yet I'm already looking forward to GT6.
I honestly cant get my head round not being able to play in a cockpit view with standard cars, it doesnt add up i keep thinking did something get lost in translation...i.e standard cars wont have detailed cockpits, but still viewable racing cockpits
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