Approvals 10/10 ▼
Nineball2112 (4) - 4909d ago Cancel
mattamusprime (1) - 4909d ago Cancel
DanCrabtree (2) - 4909d ago Cancel
TheAmericnDream (2) - 4909d ago Cancel
AKissFromDaddy (1) - 4909d ago Cancel
180°

Why Halo: Reach's Multiplayer System is Better Than Black Ops'

GamerNode's Mike Murphy writes: "This past week saw the latest addition to the Call of Duty franchise, Call of Duty: Black Ops, arrive in retail stores. With the game being developed by Treyarch and not Infinity Ward, I was a tad worried about what the game would be like. Specifically my concerns lied with its multiplayer system regarding ranks, customization, leveling, and more. After a few mere hours of play with the game's new system, I found myself extremely disappointed..."

Read Full Story >>
gamernode.com
Create Report !X

Add Report

Reports

Lame
Urmomlol4909d ago WhoDisagree(1)Agree(0)
+ Updates (1)- Updates (1)

Updates

Changed from Pending to Approved
Community4909d ago
The_Darkest_Red4909d ago

Thank you for the well thought out, well constructed, and thoroughly detailed argument.

On topic, I think both Halo: Reach and Black Ops are great games. Halo: Reach is the culmination of everything Bungie has learned with Halo and Black Ops is Call of Duty without all of the terrible annoyances present in Modern Warfare 2. While neither game is perfect, I am enjoying them both.

Just to keep things in perspective, I enjoy Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Killzone 2 more than either of these games, I just enjoy good online shooters.

People love to hate on popular games but I got over that awhile ago. The simple fact is, there is a reason why these games sell so much, and it's not just that "sheep will buy anything," despite what the majority of N4G might say.

-Alpha4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

Reach is great, but I find that it didn't take some steps forwards that it should have that BO actually took. Custom emblems (over the recycled static ones in Reach), an in-game, in-depth combat tracker (unlike in Reach where its on Bungie.net), Theater mode can be edited (I don't think you can do that in Reach), etc. Though, you can save more things in Halo. I fear Activision is setting up a paid service to save more clips and stuff.

Of course, when it comes to sheet MP modes, Bungie is King. There is just so much variety in Halo games and the physics in the game is insane. There is such a variety of customization and the Halo community is incredibly strong for custom maps, modes, etc.

I enjoy COD more though, I prefer the pacing. But back in the day I was addicted to Halo (for PC, Combat Evolved).

I think both games are great, but BO's currency system rocks. Too bad there is no map editor.

Bungie did a better job delivering a more smoother launch experience too, but TA released their game on 4 systems, so I'm content being patient with them ironing out the technical issues. Both games at their core offer some of the best competitive MP experiences I've ever enjoyed in a series.

dead_eye4909d ago

@Alpha-Male22 I'll be patient with them once they've sorted the spawn system out. That one is doing my head in.

thief4908d ago

Is Halo better than CoD?
Is cholera better than Syphillis?
Difficult questions.

Cenobia4909d ago

I'm not really sure why a lot of people are hating on Black Ops. I think it is a really great improvement over MW2. They removed a lot of the BS from the last installment and improved quite a bit.

Really I'd just like to see them nerf the RC car a bit, add the 2 best MW1 maps for free (I have been getting the urge to play Crossfire and Crash recently) and add a couple of zombie maps. Otherwise I was having a lot of fun with the MP.

dead_eye4909d ago

@Cenobia No noob-tubes. I don't know how they did it but they did.

TekoIie4909d ago

yeh it makes no sense Bad spawning was in MW2 but people will always look for something to rant about...

dead_eye4909d ago

@pekolie the spawning is way worse in BO. I spawned took 2 steps forward and an someone spawned behind me and killed me. thats how bad it is in BO at the moment

creatchee4909d ago

People hate on Black Ops (and COD in general) because it's a multiplatform game AKA not an exclusive. The fact that it has insane sales, great reviews, and millions of people who play the hell out of it make it fodder for those who want to claim superiority for their system of choice.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 4909d ago
italianbreadman4909d ago

I feel like both are weak. Give me meaningful things to do in multiplayer and you've already beaten these and other shooters. I like the dynamics of Battlefield games' multiplayer. And of course anything by Valve, but that's just because they make better games in the first place.

kaveti66164909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

There's a lot of stuff to do in Reach multiplayer. It changes every day with the Daily Challenges.

I know this site is mostly anti-Halo because it's mostly anti-360, but you guys are getting ridiculous.

Halo Reach's multiplayer is a functional experience, unlike Black Ops. It's got a host of variety in terms of weaponry, armor customization, armor abilities, etc.

People rag on Halo but how many of you guys actually play it?

Edit: Actally, Black Ops's multiplayer is also a good experience. It's just rough around the edges. It's got just as much depth and customization options as Halo Reach does, so I'm not downplaying Black Ops for that. The only problem is the MP is broken on PC, I've heard. And there are a lot of glitches. But in theory, Black Ops is probably as good a game as Reach is.

italianbreadman4909d ago

I think I need to clarify. I don't find the customization options of an arena shooter compelling anymore. No matter how many weapons, armor types, abilities, etc., it still boils down to a deathmatch experience.

Xbox 360 is my preferred platform and I don't know much about the preferences of the N4G readership, but I think that's a lame excuse to support or criticize a game.

I think the greater goals and pacing in BF appeals to me; I'm honestly more of a single-player, narrative-motivated gamer to begin with. I also love the more cooperative aspects of a multiplayer game.

kaveti66164909d ago

Bad Company 2 suffers from the same problems you mention about Halo and Black Ops. Just because it has larger maps doesn't mean the gameplay is fundamentally different. It's just a larger arena. Plus, Reach has big team battle maps as well, which are pretty huge. I can't say they are as large as BC2 maps but they're plenty large.

I don't imagine that there is any other type of shooter out there than arena shooters. Objective-based games still boil down to deathmatch type games because there's always 3 or 4 guys in the objective match doing nothing for the team in terms of accomplishing the objective. They're just there to get kills.

There are plenty of the objective-based games in Reach but I agree they all boil down to deathmatch. But since I like Deathmatch I've never really had a problem with it. The only way to advance the experience is to create new ways to kill each other. More creative weapons, more scalable maps with different places to hide and climb. Reach has done that with maps like the Spire or Boneyard.

It's really not Halo's fault that you got tired of playing Deathmatch type games. Bungie caters to that audience. Just because you got tired of playing those kinds of games doesn't mean that Reach is not a good game or that it deserves any form of penalty. It's a fantastically designed experience that appeals to its community.

You've just found a different kind of game to like, but I'd argue that it's just a slightly different permutation of the Deathmatch experience.

Objective-based games are always held back because the majority of the shooter fans still have the impulse to run into battle and kill a guy rather than defending a base or capturing a flag or detonating a bomb or stealing a treasure or whatever. Killing is still an essential part of the experience, and if only 2 or 3 players at a time can actually be part of the plan to protect an objective or steal something, then the other players will drift off to kill opponents because they have nothing better to do.

-Alpha4909d ago

Battlefield is a more team-oriented, bigger-scale game. Games like Halo and COD are Arena shooters, they offer more smaller and personal games. I enjoy both styles personally

PR_FROM_OHIO4909d ago

Halo Reach is a much better game in every way! I dont own a 360 but i have played both Black Ops is a mess!!!

farhad2k84909d ago

So how can you make a judgement if you have not even touched Halo Reach? For all you know, halo reach could be a bunch of stick men shooting at each other with commando pro on!

StitchJones4909d ago

They are two different games. Play the game you like and stop complaining about the other.

TekoIie4909d ago

congratulations on posting the most Pointless and ignorant comment on this article. No matter what people will have these Console/game war and tbh its fun. I join in now and then but to an extent that i dont look like a fanboy...

Jack-Pyro4909d ago

I'm getting word now...and...yes...it's official, Pekolie has just stolen the title of most pointless ignorant comment on this article, what an upset, the crowd goes wild!!!

*crown bursts into an uproar*

Show all comments (46)
90°

Destiny 2: The Final Shape Developer Gameplay Preview

Bungie - "Join our development team to see the new updates arriving with Destiny 2: The Final Shape. Releasing on June 4, 2024."

Create Report !X

Add Report

Reports

+ Updates (4)- Updates (4)

Updates

Changed from Pending to Approved
Community13d ago
Changed: title
Changed: title, content
Changed: credit url
Show AllShow Less
InUrFoxHole13d ago

What is this she/her, he/him bs?

140°

Bungie Replaces Marathon Director Amid Leadership Shakeup, Fears of Layoffs

Amid ongoing anxiety within Bungie following layoffs last year, the studio is now preparing for another shakeup, this time on Marathon.

Create Report !X

Add Report

Reports

+ Updates (1)- Updates (1)

Updates

Changed from Pending to Approved
Community35d ago
Kaii35d ago

Layoffs should be hitting the incompetent management at this point.

Profchaos35d ago

Talk about mismanaged Bungie is a studio of tremendous potential and have made some of the greatest shooters to date. Sony pushed them to just make another Destiny style game and consult on other studios live service games and are now getting thrown under a bus as the pivot away from predominantly gaas games is unfolding.

I'd love to see a world where Bungie can focus on telling great sci fi stories again away from a live service dungeon but we all know that's a pipe dream

Rynxie35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Are you serious? Do you just talk out of your arse naturally, or did it take years of being a POS?

Profchaos35d ago

You normally get so offended by internet comments or did it take years of being soft

purple10135d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Yes I see your point mate, someone clearly didn’t read the article.

Specifically the bit:

“Notably, multiple sources at the time and since have shared that Sony has largely left the studio to sort out its own troubles and was not responsible for the layoffs, with CEO Pete Parsons taking responsibility.“

He’s just spouting nonsense

Huey_My_D_Long35d ago

lol what so fucking hilarious is that you called him out so bad he projected him being offended onto you.

Its been well documented that Bungie's management has been more responsible for their shortfalls, even mentioned in said article that we are commenting on.

Its ok, just admit you didn't read the article.

MIDGETonSTILTS1735d ago

Arrowhead Studios will be Sony’s GaaS consult now.

Gameseeker_Frampt35d ago

I like how for some, it is never Bungie's fault. Microsoft, Activision, and now Sony - it is everyone else who is pushing Bungie to make all these bad decisions.

-Foxtrot35d ago

Thrown under the bus?

Are you joking? This is all Bungie, we all thought it was 100% Activision but it's clear the higher ups at Bungie don't have a clue how to run the studio and are more bothered about saving their own skin and the money that they rake in.

Sony gave them an extra $1.2 Billion to make sure that employees didn't leave and they didn't have to cut anyones jobs. Where did that money go because Bungie still cut peoples jobs and I bet you the higher management still kept a hold of their big fact paychecks and bonuses.

Sony invested poorly in this and the best thing they can do now is throw the old Bungie management out and take hold of the studio fully.

MIDGETonSTILTS1734d ago

Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Somebody at Bungie is the golden goose making great shooting mechanics, and the rest need to justify their paychecks.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 34d ago
Fearmonkey35d ago

This studio has had three owners and its never worked well with any of them....Management has issues

ChasterMies35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Worked very well for Microsoft. Microsoft’s mistake was letting Bungie go.

Fearmonkey34d ago

it worked so well with MS that they so wanted to be away from them they bought the company back. Only to do it again with activision-blizzard, and then sold to Sony...Sony shouldn't have bought them...Bungie hasnt been the same for a long time..

90°

Destiny 2’s new game director worked on every single Bungie Halo game

Destiny 2’s game director Joe Blackburn is stepping down ahead of The Final Shape, leaving Tyson Green to take the reins of the PS5 and Xbox FPS.

Read Full Story >>
theloadout.com
Create Report !X

Add Report

Reports

+ Updates (1)- Updates (1)

Updates

Changed from Pending to Approved
Community83d ago
DefenderOfDoom283d ago

As someone who bought every story DLC for DESTINY 2 but not every season. the first thing I would do as game director is , if anybody pre-orders The ?Final Shape , they will be able to play all older DLC and seasons with purchase of FINAL SHAPE. . I think that would bring back a lot of DESTINY 2 plsyers who have not experienced the seasons a chance to play season activities before Final Shape comes out.

DickyD122683d ago

I agree but I was just able to get all dlcs for 50 on steam. (Have it on PlayStation but don't always have access to the TV)