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Microsoft's Kinect motion-sensing system gets hacked already

Video shows that the Kinect appears to have been hacked already.

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theafroman4975d ago

wow...that dint last long...

dkblackhawk504975d ago

And yet the PlayStation 3 lasted.....and the move lasted.....

Exactly.

Nitrowolf24975d ago (Edited 4975d ago )

idk even know what exactly that is implying, but can i use the Move on my computer?

anyway what this vid is showing is that they got it working on Computer, with it being only locked up to 360, now they have found a work around to work it on pc.

@Disagree's

lol wtf, just look at the video
http://n4g.com/comments/rel...
idk what you call that, but it most certainly was not intended in the final product to be used on the computer

Shield4975d ago

@Nitrowolf2 Unfortunately, around here if your comments, opinions and facts aren't pro Sony you'll get disagrees. Yes, even in MS news areas. -__-

Btw, for me the fact that the Kinect can be hacked just makes it all that much more appealing.

Eamon4975d ago (Edited 4975d ago )

You do realise that there is no real reason for MS to make Kinect secure anyway. The only reason why they decided to make it a closed system is to prevent normal people from connecting to their computers and possibly ruining it and breaking their warranty.

Other than that, there is no advantage to securing Kinect. Games run on the xbox itself, so there's a reason for MS to secure the 360 due to piracy.

JokesOnYou4975d ago

So more reason for folks to buy kinect.

Thecraft19894975d ago

Nitrowolf2 where can I get drivers for move for my PC ? Can i play pc games with them like i can wii controller ect ?

xDaRkModEx4975d ago

@thecraft1989

Here is where you can use move, sixaxis, ds3, etc etc etc on a pc. http://www.motioninjoy.com/

Masamori Sumimura4975d ago

This isnt Surprising at all. Microsoft always talked about their vision of Kinect being used in the future for Computers aswell. I'm not surprised that there was some PC Keys info inside that got it to work.

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JLeVRT4975d ago

i hate hackers... pirates... whoever they are. They mess up stuff...like little siblings.

jerethdagryphon4975d ago

hacking kinect itself has no real downside it doesnt rob ms of sales nor permit coppied games

what it does is allow the hardware to be repurposed to more technical aspects

Eamon4975d ago

JLeVRT just failed.

How the hell can you pirate Kinect? That's like saying I hate people who pirate washing machines.

At least watch the video before you start posting comments.

TekoIie4975d ago

Your comment is a fail, you were just looking to tell someone to "Read the article before commenting" Cant you take a joke? I mean its quite obvious that his comment is a joke right? Or do people just not have a sense of humour nowadays...

Eamon4975d ago

I very much doubt it was a joke.

He also just sent me a insult PM so I can confirm he's just another dum kid.

Heisenberg4975d ago

Lol, how was that a joke? Please enlighten us all. And while you're at it, what, pray-tell, does humour mean? Or wait, let me guess... That was a joke too, and you really knew how to spell humor? You're just a regular Dane Cook aren't ya?? -_-

hmmmm4975d ago

@Heisenberg

Come on... You've got to be smarter than this. You see there are countries that actually spell words in accordance with this thing we call 'The English language'. 'humor' is American English 'humour' is proper English, stop being ignorant.

Drycell044975d ago

Humour is the British spelling of the word humor (American)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

RedDevils4975d ago

JLeVRT + Pekolie = FAIL :)

Kurt Russell4974d ago

Lolz @ Dumb arse Heisenberg and the failure of JLeVRT.

Nice work guys, keep sharing those braincells.

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r1sh124975d ago

To be fair, to hack any 'closed' system all you really need is the developer kit.
There are many ways to get it, and Im sure the MS vision in the very long term is some how integrate kinect with PC's/ media PC's.
I can see it going in that direction, and Im sure there was a built in driver for windows 7.
(Like the xbox controllers have.)

Scary694975d ago

That is just creepy though, I hope everyone makes sure they unplug their kinect after each use. You don't want to have a peeping tom in your living room..lol

Silver3604975d ago

The stuff that makes kinect work is the download that you have to do before you play it. All the data interpretation is done through software. All they did was give commands to a camera motor.

hiredhelp4975d ago

same as the 360 didnt take long to hack. infact i beleave it was said while the guy was introducing 360 at launch on e3. he had word back stage the 360 has been broken into and hacked. LOL

Kurt Russell4974d ago

hilarious... honestly I can't stand up from all this excitement.

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jay24975d ago

Oh dear, PS3 took years to hacked and was re-made unhackable within what, a month?
and MOVE's not been hacked yet, how many times the 360 or something to do with it's been hacked?

(I want an answer please?)

MAG_SVER4975d ago

999999999999999999999999999

LoL, I swear google it.. I might have missed out a 9..lol

Hands Up For Games4975d ago

Just as much as the PS2 did.

Actually, nowhere near as much as the PS2 did ; )

visualb4975d ago

yeah...PS2 is 10 years old...360 is half that age

seriously, is this a pissing contest on who got hacked the most now?

in that case, PC WINS AGAIN /s

hiredhelp4974d ago

Not quite Hands Up!!
as the models of the ps2 rolled out they got harder to hack. so there for soft mods got more wires. up to 12 i think " so there for not all modders bothers after a certan model because it required more attention and work.

however the psx was the most hacked. that along side the psp. but the easyest hack (CONSOLE) DREAMCAST just a little lesson for you kids out there.

Jake3604975d ago

As many times as the PSP. :P

morganfell4975d ago (Edited 4975d ago )

More than the PSP. And the games are pirated at a rate that rivals PC titles. Black Ops has been available for weeks.

Eamon4975d ago

Seriously, all you guys are flipping retarded.

You simply read the title and started commenting.

This is essentially the same as the Dualshock 3 driver that lets you use it as a controller on PC.

Some of you guys need to grow the hell up pronto.

TekoIie4975d ago

Dude you seriously need to stop telling people to "Read the article before commenting". Seriously you need to grow the hell up, pronto... see what i did there?

LarsoVanguard4975d ago

I see that you didn't do anything except for scour the page for comments by Eamon and post weakly attempted sarcastic cut and paste versions of comments.

Accurate, eh?

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gigaware4975d ago (Edited 4975d ago )

Cool he can control the motor :/

“It’s amazing hardware that shouldn’t just be locked up for Xbox 360,” Torrone told CNET by e-mail. “Its ‘radar camera’ being able to get video and distance as a sensor input from commodity hardware is huge.”

Yes that is why Microsoft purchased 3DV Systems but the other partner PrimeSense that helped with it's design will be bringing the tech to more products(PCs and TVs) granted not the Xbox version with it's software.

Fishy Fingers4975d ago

It's just to show he has open source drivers controlling the unit. That was what the competition asked for.

gigaware4975d ago

LOL at the disagrees. Moving kinect's motor isn't that exciting or news worthy. But the article does show why so many people are hating on Kinect.

Nitrowolf24975d ago (Edited 4975d ago )

didn't disagree with you

The fact that they have it working on PC is whats important. Not only the motor can be controlled, but he also got the readings of the color. Just the fact that it works on PC means you can get it to do other things. This vid was just to show its working. You said it's mostly software below, well that won't be hard to make software on PC for it.
I say this really has nothing to do with 360 gaming or will do any harm to its games more good for those who wanted to use it on there PC, although don't expect Kinect games on PC, i mean there isn't even a 360 emulator and Kinect games are technically 360 games with Kinect funtion.

ingiomar4975d ago (Edited 4975d ago )

They Purchased canesta which has like millions(ok it's more like dozens) of different patents regarding 3d motion camera's,making it almost impossible for anyone to copy kinect or any other 3d motion camera.
Microsoft is starting yet another monopoly.

google it if you don't believe me..

KingZFlipper4975d ago

That I think has a lot of potential and it is very nice. When I was in Digiexpo (Finland's E3 lol) and tested Kinect out, it was really nice technology although it isn't 1:1, And I am a kinda HC-gamer.

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Microsoft's Xbox gaming handheld will fail unless someone else makes it

Despite Microsoft's experience in hardware manufacturing, I don't trust it not to fumble its first gaming handheld device which may eventually lead to a successor not getting released.

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LG_Fox_Brazil1d 2h ago

Unless it has some fature that really makes it standout I don't think someone who wants a handheld will pick it when the Switch 2 is just around the corner and the Steam Deck offers a huge library with much better prices worldwide

OtterX17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Especially since the existing PC handhelds (Steam Deck, ROG Ally, etc) can already run Gamepass. I don't have a Steam Deck yet, but I did see Forza Horizon 5 already running pretty well on it natively, so I'd imagine most XBox exclusives on Steam would run pretty well too. The most Microsoft could do is try to brute force a more expensive, higher power handheld. I doubt it would do well if that were the case.

ABizzel114h ago

This has been my point. It’s too little too late, and there are too many options out now that can already do the same thing with similar or better tech, in a similar price-range. A best case scenario for them is slightly above Steam-Deck performance at $100 less, but that’s not a huge selling point for anyone who has already jumped into the handheld PC market, and people still on the fence. Or go the other route of as cheap as possible but making it a streaming only device around $199.

It would do well and reach over 1m sold just because of the Xbox branding, but their consoles are already selling less and less (by the looks of it), so I don’t see a handheld being this great savior for them.

They simply need to rebrand one of the Surface tablets into the device with dedicated controls and more gaming focused, and call it a day instead of heavily investing in a handheld

VariantAEC10h ago

I'm guessing Xbox Wireless will be a streaming system like PS Portal. And yes I fully expect their portable Xbox to be given a really stupid name like "Wireless." Maybe even a dumber name like the Xbox Series W.

Jingsing20h ago

Doesn't make much sense to have a handheld that is locked down to the Xbox ecosystem when the PC handheld can run everything. I'm sure the same people that bought the Xbox fridge will give Microsoft their free money though.

XBManiac16h ago

Microsoft handheld Qualcomm based... you will see it next year... and you will see it sink.

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The Xbox showcase brought the E3 magic

After having to prove itself for years, Xbox doubled down and pulled it off..

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GaboonViper11d ago

Yep Xbox absolutely knocked it out of the park with that stunning show, it was everything a gaming showcase should be, games games and games, well done team Xbox.

CrimsonWing6910d ago

It really did. Like I came out of that with the hype for new games I haven’t felt since… well the better years of E3.

monkey60210d ago

It was without a doubt one of the better showcases in years. There was plenty there that excited me. Something has been lacking in years on all platforms

EasilyTheBest10d ago

It was an amazing showcase I loved everything about it. Can't wait to play some of those games.
What's going on. 4 comments & no negatives yet. Wow, what's going on with N4G.

ThinkThink10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Show was so good, it made me forget about that blue dragon rumor until the next day. Too many games to process.

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Is Xbox Going Multi-Platform The Right Decision For The Console Market?

Shahmeer from eXputer: "The new Xbox strategy to go multi-platform could eventually change console gaming as we know it, and I am concerned."

Bathyj11d ago

Can we stop pretending that Xbox has any great influence over the console market?

All they can do is try and steer their own Destiny. They have very little to do with what the other players in the console market are doing.

And yes, going 3rd party is pretty much their only option and is good for them.

RaidenBlack11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Still whatever little direct competition they're offering against Sony ... that'd be gone, which is never good for consumers.
I know Sony will continue to apease the gamers but without any proper competition in same space, they might not work at the fullest efficiency.
(Taking into account, thats generally been agreed here, that Nintendo has long been not the direct competitor to either MS or Sony)

xHeavYx11d ago

The " without any proper competition in same space, they (Sony) might not work at the fullest efficiency" narrative has been proven false for years. Let's stop pretending that, in terms of games, Xbox has been any competition to Playstation.

fsfsxii11d ago

Sony had 0 competition for most of its playstation business, and they still succeeded, the only thing xbox introduced was paid online and dlc

maniacmayhem11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Sony had little to no competition during the PS2 era and they have an iconic catalog.

I don't think Sony needs competition in the console space to still release great games. It would be the games that would be competing against each other.

Einhander197211d ago

Xbox does not need to exist for PlayStation to have competition.

They compete with Nintendo, PC, streaming and countless other devices.

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neutralgamer199211d ago

Yes release games on other platforms

Your own gamers still get the games day one on GP. So GP will grow and stay stabilize

By releasing the games on PC,PlayStation and next switch they can get $70 for their games.

MS didn't invest 100 billion for nothing. This way Xbox generates way more revenue

GhostScholar11d ago

And Sony is doing the same thing whether you want to admit it or not.

anast11d ago

The show was like a sub-show for Sony. All these games are coming to PS5.

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outsider162411d ago

You gotta admit though..xbox showcase was actually really great.

RpgSama11d ago

I mean, yes, it was an Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda presentation, they just so happened to buy all of those publishers, nothing we would not have seen on any other award show if they had not bought developers that were and STILL are developing multiplatform games.

If you remove them you are left with Microsoft game studios, another Fable, Another Gears, Perfect Dark which for me didn't look all that great, Avowed, Age of mythology and south of midnight (might be missing something I guess)

anast11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

No better than any other show. There weren't any major new announcements, which is what everyone has been complaining about. The bar shouldn't get lowered for a trillion dollar company.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

"another Fable, another Gears, Perfect Dark"?
That's a lot of pretty great "anothers".
I could use a few of those "anothers" from Sony right now.

helicoptergirl11d ago

Yes it was a really great showcase that Xbox had. Multiplats and all. Overall it was really cool

Terry_B11d ago

for pc and playstation..yes it was. Not a single reason was given to buy an xbox.

MrBaskerville9d ago

Perfect Dark looked amazing! Wouldn't mind seeing something like that from Sony tbh.

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thesoftware73011d ago

anast,

"All these games are coming to PS5."

Very disingenuous statement... Some, but not all.

Oh, so that is the new narrative, "sub-show for Sony." lol, wow.

The sad part is that you are clearly and fully aware that it is very unlikely for any 1hr and 30min gaming presentation show to showcase ALL Exclusives, it just doesn't happen.

And don't you think it sad that MS had a better Sony showing than Sony? If I were you, I wouldn't consider that a flex, lol.?

anast11d ago

They are coming to PS5, the ones that matter of course.

There is nothing sad here. You might need to start your argument without an emotive.

I don't think they had a better showing. Unless we lower the bar for only Xbox.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

None of us really know how much they're going third party. They're still ACTING like they want to protect the platform - no mention of PS5 in their show, still marketing the console, still using the Xbox logo.
Yeah Phil acknowledged more is coming to PS5. But is that Indiana Jones? Perfect Dark? Gears?
If they keep those key properties in their stable it's not accurate to label them as simply 3rd party.
They may very well still be in the game after all...

anast11d ago

@Coconut

Sony did the same in their last. They showed games that were already announced.

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Giga_Gaia11d ago

We need to stop pretending like Xbox matters and has any influence in the industry.

By entering the industry, Microsoft made it worst, everything bad in the industry can be tied to them (like paid online and DLCs). The industry would be better off if they had never been in it.

Before you say Sony would have no competition, they would still have PC and Nintendo. As they are right now, Microsoft are not competition, they don't actually matter.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

I think you're mostly right. They've been failing on console and will most likely drop out.
But the concern a lot of us had was that they would use their $ to win monopolistically. They've already bought a huge number of big studios. Going multi-platform would alleviate that concern.
But they could still turn the screws, this game isn't over quite yet... They're sending mixed signals.

CrimsonWing6911d ago

I think in Xbox’s direness it is, but let’s not pretend like they don’t understand the value of exclusiveness to their platform. Not every damn Xbox game is coming to PS5 and the stuff that has hit have either been GaaS games or games that didn’t exactly sell gamgbusters and are extremely niche.

When Halo, Gears, Forza, Perfect Dark, Fable, etc. start coming to PS5 then that’s pretty massive and also diminishes any reason to own an Xbox.

LucasRuinedChildhood11d ago

Doom isn't niche. It was heavily implied that all Bethesda games, outside of games with contractual agreements and the existing multiplayer games, would all be exclusive to Xbox.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ok, sorry, Doom is the exception.

My point is Xbox is still keeping exclusives for their bigger games. What’s been released are GaaS: Sea of Thieves, Grounded aka Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and then niche stuff like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush. Then you got Doom coming out, which is an outlier, I suppose.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

It's not niche but it's not everything.
MS has got a HUGE cache of IP and studios now

Scissorman11d ago

It's the only decision. Hardware sales are on a sharp decline and Game Pass growth has stagnated.

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